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Jeremy Weiland
11-12-2001, 11:51 AM
Hey y'all,
I just wanted to share my thoughts about and reactions
to David's newest readings. It's a gem. On the one
hand, I wish we could get these readings on a more
regular basis. On the other hand, it's readings like
this that one really needs to study and contemplate to
get the full effect of what is being said AS WELL AS
it's relevance on YOUR life.
Anyway, as I was reading this, I was struck by how
well the whole thing flowed. I wonder if David is
still dictating into the tape recorder and
transcribing later or if he is now doing the direct
typing into the computer thing. I mean, honestly, if
I didn't know better I would say that this thing flows
so well that I suspect some conscious mind overlay in
the mix. But remember that David is the one who's
been championing the whole "purity in channelling"
process of saying no matter what comes to you in
trance, no matter what it is, and not judging the
words as they come but just saying them. So my hope
is that the ease with which this reading can be read
and understood (see some of David's earlier readings
from the 90s to see the other end of the spectrum)
means that he's doing something right, since he's
worked very hard to make sure the transmission is
good. Plus, this reading resonates with truth that is
impossible to ignore.
Now, to get to the content, the first point about the
concept of obligation to spiritual work speaks volumes
to my current mindset. We all go through a point
where we just want to fall back into normal patterns,
not because we reject spiritual growth, but because we
get tired of expending the effort. Work on self is
ceaseless, and eventually you reach a point where the
monkey-mind gets too loud and shrill to ignore. I
guess what Ra is saying is that if you've reached the
point where you're fighting this "obligation", you
misassessed the entire nature of the situation.
I like the use of the term "expectations" as opposed
to "rules". In fact it's funny because I was reading
an article in the newspaper the other day written by a
parenting counselor who was talking about problems
parents have with discipline. He says that instead of
setting rules that micromanage your child's life, you
should instead make clear your general expectations of
how your child should behave. This gives them a
direction to go in rather than a narrow path to tread.
There's got to be some parallel ideas between that
and what higher dimensional guides do for us. It's
all about free will.
I don't think the stuff about the current conflict
will catch anybody by surprise from a
personal/emotional point of view. Most people I know
who consider themselves "on the path" do not agree
with our country's approach to this problem. But what
do you do about it? I don't think Ra is trying to
make Ghandis out of us, but the idea that you can
resist violence with violence should be an idea that,
by now, has proven fruitless. Those who protest war
only serve to propagate the idea of conflict. In
order to counteract war, you have to put as much
effort into achieving peace as they do to achieve war.
That's how you move humanity in the direction you
think it should go. And of course there's the idea
that as you move the world in this direction of peace
and integration, you move yourself as well, so that
all action we perform is simulatenously outer and
inner work.
The comments about romantic partners definately hit
home for me, as I was just discussing this with David
in NM. All I can say to this reading is that it feels
like I paid for a personal reading. Right on on every
point.
Great job David.
Jeremy
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mudpuppy
11-12-2001, 08:47 PM
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><font face="OCR A Extended">Jeremy, I enjoyed David's channeling also. However I interpreted some sections differently than you. Thought you might be interested.</font>
><font face="OCR A Extended"></font>
><font face="OCR A Extended">Jeremy said:</font>
><font face="OCR A Extended">concept of obligation to spiritual work </font>
><font face="OCR A Extended"></font>
>Channeling said:
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">The enslavement of perceived obligation knows no bounds within the </span><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">developing personality, and such is presently the case with so many aspects </span><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">and facets of your society at this moment that it beggars the imagination.</span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"></span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Channelingseems to be referring to "all" of our perceived obligations in our life.</span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"></span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"></span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">Jeremy says:</span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><xml:namespace prefix="o" ns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></xml:namespace><o:p><font face="OCR A Extended">That's how you move humanity in the direction you
think it should go. </font></o:p></span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><o:p><font face="OCR A Extended"></font></o:p></span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><o:p><font face="OCR A Extended">Channelingsays:</font></o:p></span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><o:p><font face="OCR A Extended"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">It is more important to try to </span><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">be true to yourself, to live up to the ideals that you have already espoused </span><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">in your dealings with others, and to then expect others to follow their own </span><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">paths without adapting yours.</span></font></o:p></span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><o:p><font face="OCR A Extended"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"></span></font></o:p></span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><o:p><font face="OCR A Extended"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">The Channeling seems to be focusing on "being" rather than "shoulding".</span></font></o:p></span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><o:p><font face="OCR A Extended"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"></span></font></o:p></span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><o:p><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">mudpuppy</span></o:p></span>
><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><o:p></o:p></span>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: Jeremy Weiland (greenlantern113@yahoo.com)
style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: asc2k (asc2k@yahoogroups.com)
style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:51 PM
style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: [asc2k] Comments on "Healing..."
>
<tt>Hey y'all,
I just wanted to share my thoughts about and reactions
to David's newest readings. It's a gem. On the one
hand, I wish we could get these readings on a more
regular basis. On the other hand, it's readings like
this that one really needs to study and contemplate to
get the full effect of what is being said AS WELL AS
it's relevance on YOUR life.
Anyway, as I was reading this, I was struck by how
well the whole thing flowed. I wonder if David is
still dictating into the tape recorder and
transcribing later or if he is now doing the direct
typing into the computer thing. I mean, honestly, if
I didn't know better I would say that this thing flows
so well that I suspect some conscious mind overlay in
the mix. But remember that David is the one who's
been championing the whole "purity in channelling"
process of saying no matter what comes to you in
trance, no matter what it is, and not judging the
words as they come but just saying them. So my hope
is that the ease with which this reading can be read
and understood (see some of David's earlier readings
from the 90s to see the other end of the spectrum)
means that he's doing something right, since he's
worked very hard to make sure the transmission is
good. Plus, this reading resonates with truth that is
impossible to ignore.
Now, to get to the content, the first point about the
concept of obligation to spiritual work speaks volumes
to my current mindset. We all go through a point
where we just want to fall back into normal patterns,
not because we reject spiritual growth, but because we
get tired of expending the effort. Work on self is
ceaseless, and eventually you reach a point where the
monkey-mind gets too loud and shrill to ignore. I
guess what Ra is saying is that if you've reached the
point where you're fighting this "obligation", you
misassessed the entire nature of the situation.
I like the use of the term "expectations" as opposed
to "rules". In fact it's funny because I was reading
an article in the newspaper the other day written by a
parenting counselor who was talking about problems
parents have with discipline. He says that instead of
setting rules that micromanage your child's life, you
should instead make clear your general expectations of
how your child should behave. This gives them a
direction to go in rather than a narrow path to tread.
There's got to be some parallel ideas between that
and what higher dimensional guides do for us. It's
all about free will.
I don't think the stuff about the current conflict
will catch anybody by surprise from a
personal/emotional point of view. Most people I know
who consider themselves "on the path" do not agree
with our country's approach to this problem. But what
do you do about it? I don't think Ra is trying to
make Ghandis out of us, but the idea that you can
resist violence with violence should be an idea that,
by now, has proven fruitless. Those who protest war
only serve to propagate the idea of conflict. In
order to counteract war, you have to put as much
effort into achieving peace as they do to achieve war.
That's how you move humanity in the direction you
think it should go. And of course there's the idea
that as you move the world in this direction of peace
and integration, you move yourself as well, so that
all action we perform is simulatenously outer and
inner work.
The comments about romantic partners definately hit
home for me, as I was just discussing this with David
in NM. All I can say to this reading is that it feels
like I paid for a personal reading. Right on on every
point.
Great job David.
Jeremy
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Jeremy Weiland
11-13-2001, 07:44 AM
> Jeremy, I enjoyed David's channeling also. However
> I interpreted some sections differently than you.
> Thought you might be interested.
I'm always interested in different interpretations of
readings. I wish we could have more dialogue about
readings, because it helps me understand better.
> Channeling seems to be referring to "all" of our
> perceived obligations in our life.
Yeah, true, but if you interpret everything in your
life as a spiritual excercise, you see more of where I
was coming from. Not only that, but this reading felt
like a personal reading to me :-) so my reactions
tended to be towards issues in my life. The talk
about obligation really brought up some stuff that my
personal reading mentioned about obligation in
spiritual matters, so that's why I interpreted it that
way.
Your observation is certainly good, though.
> Jeremy says:
> That's how you move humanity in the direction you
> think it should go.
>
> Channeling says:
> It is more important to try to be true to yourself,
> to live up to the ideals that you have already
> espoused in your dealings with others, and to then
> expect others to follow their own paths without
> adapting yours.
>
> The Channeling seems to be focusing on "being"
> rather than "shoulding".
Absolutely. By *being* true to your ideals in your
actions, you move humanity subtley in the direction
you think it should go. It's not about you being
required to do anything out of sense of duty, its
about how your consciousness, as it is, has
consequences for the collective consciousness.
But you make a good point. We should have more
dialogue about these readings, as I'm sure there's a
lot we could learn.
Thanks, mud.
Jeremy
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theodorepong
11-13-2001, 05:53 PM
--
>
> I'm always interested in different interpretations of
> readings. I wish we could have more dialogue about
> readings, because it helps me understand better.
>
>
somebody wanna tell me why they can be interpeted differently.
seems if you want to get a message across, you make it plain and
simple.
mudpuppy
11-13-2001, 07:28 PM
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>We all look at the world, and whatever we read, thru "rose colored glasses". Even Ra admitted that his understanding waslimited tohis 6th density mentality.
>
>mudpuppy
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>
> I'm always interested in different interpretations of
> readings. I wish we could have more dialogue about
> readings, because it helps me understand better.
>
>
somebody wanna tell me why they can be interpeted differently.
seems if you want to get a message across, you make it plain and
simple.
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Troy M.
11-13-2001, 08:03 PM
--- frm@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=1mI7hQh4fNrJbxsENgRhtg_ITkRJNThw2UR6-tAwgu4K7bGnc0oZS8bmwHj6ZS3e9T7YOA) wrote:
> --
> >
> > I'm always interested in different interpretations
of readings. I wish we could have more dialogue about
readings, because it helps me understand better.
> >
> >
> somebody wanna tell me why they can be interpeted
differently. seems if you want to get a message
across, you make it plain and simple.
> >
Personally I thought the reading was directly to me
too. I will post what it said to me when I have a
little more time to get to explain my opinions.
The reason I believe you can't make the
message/reading plain and simple is because we each at
this time have the freedom of Will to learn and
experience things as we sit fit in our growth. If the
message was straight forward about how to connect with
God then we wouldn't be in this density~ everybody
would be connected to God~
Look at the Bible, it's not plain and simple but
millions swear by it..I feel everybody on Earth soon
will get the simple message of what life has meant to
each of us individually and how if we had unity in
consciousness sooner things would of been a lot
different.
Either it be through channeling, religion, ET
contact, mediation, whatever brings you closer to
yourself/God then that is the way they should pursue
their truths. How come all these different roads can't
all lead to the same place~ 4th density~ If your a
Christian and die hopefully Jesus will be there to
guide you into 4th density, or Mohammed if your
Islamic, or the consciousness of Ra for us in the
group, etc; whatever it is that guides you now will be
there to continue to guide ya..IMHO
I re read that latest reading 3 times and every time
I do I get something else out of it but it really did
seem that it was answering things I had been pondering
recently..More later.. I also think it's a good idea
to share our opinions on how we take different
messages personally, like when David or a fellow
E-Groupie shares there views on other sites. Even if
the site is 80% distorted with disinformation there is
20% that we can gather from it if we want to spend the
effort digging through it. When someone mentions they
notice STS within the sites it helps me keep a better
eye out for the same signs..
Peace~
Troy
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Tiffani Boswell
11-14-2001, 09:42 AM
troy said: When someone mentions they
notice STS within the sites it helps me keep a better
eye out for the same signs..
tiffani says: me too defintely agree...and there was also parts of the
reading that i felt were directed to some things I have been looking for
direction in lately...i think it would be great if we all shared!
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From: "Troy M." <de_troy_t@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=NUOXs0BQmVxwcQ33N80kSbhKcGFM1HEW-10y_8t2K_0r1wzNNWGXmeSmuDurqsCmcn_2D_RBucc4suQ)>
To: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=FdF-ApKvp-1GChFP9ga-m9X_misZPQ_V73NB4huW-kcSsNPyEdPhvxF2uo-CQMIQC341oouH6RGCzFab3A)>
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Subject: Re: [asc2k] Re: Comments on "Healing..."
>
>
> --- frm@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=uFCsEWMwWA__e88Qa5TrRWF1j4c9lEk-8UZxvy_yRIhJwiA4HEWqI5yG7CWZPkl14KkLCAY) wrote:
> > --
> > >
> > > I'm always interested in different interpretations
> of readings. I wish we could have more dialogue about
> readings, because it helps me understand better.
> > >
> > >
> > somebody wanna tell me why they can be interpeted
> differently. seems if you want to get a message
> across, you make it plain and simple.
> > >
>
>
> Personally I thought the reading was directly to me
> too. I will post what it said to me when I have a
> little more time to get to explain my opinions.
>
> The reason I believe you can't make the
> message/reading plain and simple is because we each at
> this time have the freedom of Will to learn and
> experience things as we sit fit in our growth. If the
> message was straight forward about how to connect with
> God then we wouldn't be in this density~ everybody
> would be connected to God~
> Look at the Bible, it's not plain and simple but
> millions swear by it..I feel everybody on Earth soon
> will get the simple message of what life has meant to
> each of us individually and how if we had unity in
> consciousness sooner things would of been a lot
> different.
>
> Either it be through channeling, religion, ET
> contact, mediation, whatever brings you closer to
> yourself/God then that is the way they should pursue
> their truths. How come all these different roads can't
> all lead to the same place~ 4th density~ If your a
> Christian and die hopefully Jesus will be there to
> guide you into 4th density, or Mohammed if your
> Islamic, or the consciousness of Ra for us in the
> group, etc; whatever it is that guides you now will be
> there to continue to guide ya..IMHO
>
> I re read that latest reading 3 times and every time
> I do I get something else out of it but it really did
> seem that it was answering things I had been pondering
> recently..More later.. I also think it's a good idea
> to share our opinions on how we take different
> messages personally, like when David or a fellow
> E-Groupie shares there views on other sites. Even if
> the site is 80% distorted with disinformation there is
> 20% that we can gather from it if we want to spend the
> effort digging through it. When someone mentions they
> notice STS within the sites it helps me keep a better
> eye out for the same signs..
>
>
> Peace~
> Troy
>
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Jeremy Weiland
11-14-2001, 10:06 AM
> somebody wanna tell me why they can be interpeted
> differently.
>
> seems if you want to get a message across, you make
> it plain and
> simple.
heh heh
Yeah, the message is plain and simple, but WE'RE NOT.
It's our lack of understanding, coupled with the
inevitable distortions of language, that make readings
able to be interpreted/misinterpreted.
We just do our best. :-)
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mudpuppy
11-14-2001, 12:07 PM
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>
<tt>troy said: When someone mentions they
notice STS within the sites it helps me keep a better
eye out for the same signs..</tt>
><tt></tt>
><tt>Hello folks,</tt>
><tt>I think this is overly simplistic thinking. According to Ra,an sts personmust be95% sts in order to harvest to an sts planet in 4d. Whereas an sto person need only be 51% sto to harvest to sto 4d. This means an sto person can demonstrate 49% sts and still be sto and harvest to an sto planet in 4d. According to Ra, Jesus was excessively sto which caused him to become a martyr and create problems for himself to this day in the density where he abides.</tt>
><tt></tt>
><tt>think about it...</tt>
><tt></tt>
><tt>mudpuppy
>
tiffani says: me too defintely agree...and there was also parts of the
reading that i felt were directed to some things I have been looking for
direction in lately...i think it would be great if we all shared!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Troy M." <de_troy_t@yahoo.com>
To: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: November 13, 2001 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [asc2k] Re: Comments on "Healing..."
>
>
> --- frm@home.com wrote:
> > --
> > >
> > > I'm always interested in different interpretations
> of readings. I wish we could have more dialogue about
> readings, because it helps me understand better.
> > >
> > >
> > somebody wanna tell me why they can be interpeted
> differently. seems if you want to get a message
> across, you make it plain and simple.
> > >
>
>
> Personally I thought the reading was directly to me
> too. I will post what it said to me when I have a
> little more time to get to explain my opinions.
>
> The reason I believe you can't make the
> message/reading plain and simple is because we each at
> this time have the freedom of Will to learn and
> experience things as we sit fit in our growth. If the
> message was straight forward about how to connect with
> God then we wouldn't be in this density~ everybody
> would be connected to God~
> Look at the Bible, it's not plain and simple but
> millions swear by it..I feel everybody on Earth soon
> will get the simple message of what life has meant to
> each of us individually and how if we had unity in
> consciousness sooner things would of been a lot
> different.
>
> Either it be through channeling, religion, ET
> contact, mediation, whatever brings you closer to
> yourself/God then that is the way they should pursue
> their truths. How come all these different roads can't
> all lead to the same place~ 4th density~ If your a
> Christian and die hopefully Jesus will be there to
> guide you into 4th density, or Mohammed if your
> Islamic, or the consciousness of Ra for us in the
> group, etc; whatever it is that guides you now will be
> there to continue to guide ya..IMHO
>
> I re read that latest reading 3 times and every time
> I do I get something else out of it but it really did
> seem that it was answering things I had been pondering
> recently..More later.. I also think it's a good idea
> to share our opinions on how we take different
> messages personally, like when David or a fellow
> E-Groupie shares there views on other sites. Even if
> the site is 80% distorted with disinformation there is
> 20% that we can gather from it if we want to spend the
> effort digging through it. When someone mentions they
> notice STS within the sites it helps me keep a better
> eye out for the same signs..
>
>
> Peace~
> Troy
>
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Tiffani Boswell
11-14-2001, 12:38 PM
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><font face="BakerSignet" size="4">i don't know alot of people that have gotten as far sto as Jesus did...somehow i don't think i have to worry about that in the immediate future (in the sense that it would cause problems being too sto) </font>
><font face="BakerSignet" size="4"></font>
><font face="BakerSignet" size="4">I just meant that being able to discern sts can be helpful to those that need more sto in their lives...</font>
><font face="BakerSignet" size="4"></font>
><font face="BakerSignet" size="4">tiffani</font>
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<tt>troy said: When someone mentions they
notice STS within the sites it helps me keep a better
eye out for the same signs..</tt>
><tt></tt>
><tt>Hello folks,</tt>
><tt>I think this is overly simplistic thinking. According to Ra,an sts personmust be95% sts in order to harvest to an sts planet in 4d. Whereas an sto person need only be 51% sto to harvest to sto 4d. This means an sto person can demonstrate 49% sts and still be sto and harvest to an sto planet in 4d. According to Ra, Jesus was excessively sto which caused him to become a martyr and create problems for himself to this day in the density where he abides.</tt>
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><tt>think about it...</tt>
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><tt>mudpuppy
>
tiffani says: me too defintely agree...and there was also parts of the
reading that i felt were directed to some things I have been looking for
direction in lately...i think it would be great if we all shared!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Troy M." <de_troy_t@yahoo.com>
To: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: November 13, 2001 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [asc2k] Re: Comments on "Healing..."
>
>
> --- frm@home.com wrote:
> > --
> > >
> > > I'm always interested in different interpretations
> of readings. I wish we could have more dialogue about
> readings, because it helps me understand better.
> > >
> > >
> > somebody wanna tell me why they can be interpeted
> differently. seems if you want to get a message
> across, you make it plain and simple.
> > >
>
>
> Personally I thought the reading was directly to me
> too. I will post what it said to me when I have a
> little more time to get to explain my opinions.
>
> The reason I believe you can't make the
> message/reading plain and simple is because we each at
> this time have the freedom of Will to learn and
> experience things as we sit fit in our growth. If the
> message was straight forward about how to connect with
> God then we wouldn't be in this density~ everybody
> would be connected to God~
> Look at the Bible, it's not plain and simple but
> millions swear by it..I feel everybody on Earth soon
> will get the simple message of what life has meant to
> each of us individually and how if we had unity in
> consciousness sooner things would of been a lot
> different.
>
> Either it be through channeling, religion, ET
> contact, mediation, whatever brings you closer to
> yourself/God then that is the way they should pursue
> their truths. How come all these different roads can't
> all lead to the same place~ 4th density~ If your a
> Christian and die hopefully Jesus will be there to
> guide you into 4th density, or Mohammed if your
> Islamic, or the consciousness of Ra for us in the
> group, etc; whatever it is that guides you now will be
> there to continue to guide ya..IMHO
>
> I re read that latest reading 3 times and every time
> I do I get something else out of it but it really did
> seem that it was answering things I had been pondering
> recently..More later.. I also think it's a good idea
> to share our opinions on how we take different
> messages personally, like when David or a fellow
> E-Groupie shares there views on other sites. Even if
> the site is 80% distorted with disinformation there is
> 20% that we can gather from it if we want to spend the
> effort digging through it. When someone mentions they
> notice STS within the sites it helps me keep a better
> eye out for the same signs..
>
>
> Peace~
> Troy
>
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