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Leonard A. Wilkinson

01-19-2001, 11:17 AM

hi jeremy,
i read all the posts but never write...till now !
i have benn meditating for about ten years now....the greatest gift i ever
received....i was initiated into this 'transcendetal' style long
ago...then quite suddenly began regular practice.

my technique is to sit erect, hands palms up on thighs, thighs as
near horizontal as possible, be still, listen to breath, and silently
repeat a mantra (any word will do, your name or simply the word love) for
20 minutes morning and evening as near the same time as possible
.
it helps to practice on the same seat in the same place but do
not use this as an excuse not to practice wherever you are....even on some
toilet somewhere....for a while i practiced in a quiet cemetry on my way
home from work.

do not look for results, just 'do it', do not expect perfection,
anything goes, thoughts come and go, so breathe deeply and keep bringing
the mind back to the chosen mantra. do not talk about it or make a big
thing of it...just establish the habit and never accept excuses not to
practice. just do it.

a blissful life will eventually result....with love, leonard

--- jeremy weiland <jweiland@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=tksu0gfns9ovvgeasvwxa-dty5awbsjeuwhm3tx1dhbgdwk7dtb6ivy5essycaa6-mwgzm4bub1zcfhsfnll8g)> wrote: > hope everyone's doing
alright!
>
> got a question for ya, in two parts.
>
> 1. do you have any suggestions for establishing a daily meditation
> routine? or, more importantly, how to go about the meditation process
> (i.e. what works for you, good things to think about / concentrate on,
> body position, etc.). i know i'm a perfectionist about this and always
> have to do it "by the book" but i get a warm fuzzy feeling from hearing
> how other people do this. i have a hard time with breathing regularly
> and swallowing - i get so "still" that i forget to breathe, and once i
> remember i've lost my concentration. any suggestions?
>
> 2. frequently when i meditate (especially while laying in bed) when i
> get deep into it, i find that my whole body gets a really wierd tingly
> feeling, which is cool. it is however a sort of problem since the only
> way to describe it is that my entire body feels "charged" like i'm a
> human capacitor for virginia power. many times i also hear ringing in
> the ears. it can be slightly uncomfortable at times and used to scare
> the beegeebies out of me. although i've been dealing with it in my
> meditation, it is sort of distracting b/c it is not neccessarily a
> relaxing feeling, if you know what i mean.
> my question is, is there a way i should be using this energy, or is
> this a desirable feeling? is this energy coming in or stored energy
> (i.e. stress that needs to be released)?does anyone know what i'm
> talking about? my parents have been meditating for a while but they
> don't seem to recognize what i'm talking about. i got the idea
> yesterday to ask the group about this.
>
> the cool thing is that, after my meditation last night when i was
> "charged" i had a series of dreams, and i only remembered the last one
> completely but it was really cool, involving me spacewalking and robots
> and falling through the atmosphere. the most uplifting thing that has
> happened all year so far.
>
> oh, one other thing: anyone have any info on whether may 5, 2001 is
> important?
>
> take care,
> jeremy
>

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Clark stewart

01-19-2001, 02:31 PM

well...the warm fuzzy feelings could be described a variety of ways, but
essentially your vibrational essense is raising..
you are exciting the very being that animates through your physical..
what to do with this...
many things....healing of thy body, healing of others (with permission of
course..!) or for me a will take the energy from both ends of the prana tube
and connect it in the heart chakra...then generate a star tetra, that glows
bright green..then
i explode..superimpose it in a connected way over the planet..
other times like when i'm riding my bike nothing else to do kinda thing..i
will generate fields of light that connect around the planet and envolpe it
, then reconnect back at my heart..kinda the way ra talks about the suns
breath...
i have found that there are key movements that excite nrg distabution, and
they seem to coincide with what carlos catenenda teaches in one of his
books..like one day i was riding my bike and found that putting my hands ina
pyramid cap over my head (7th chakra) that you essentially can create a
beakon of projecting nrg..experiment and find what works best for you, i
have built up from a long history of martial arts, yoga.....and breathing is
very key....the motions you make in a ideal sence should correlate very
tightly with the breath..and yes it can get complecated for me to explain
,but as dw says , "little steps"..
also remember, as i have been reminded again and again in scott mandelker's
book, "universal vision", that a wanderer or any sto orientated person
should simply spread love, in the way the best suits their/your
configuration.

so if it is speading time in your house and invisioning love around the
planet, peace...
or pumping gas and giving people a friendly smile...whatever

by the way any of you peeps having a emotional sitchuation with your nrg's ,
then you might want to read this book..
isbn:0-9701985-0-7

keep it cool yall,
in light and love of the first and only infallable mystery,
clark

>hope everyone's doing alright!
>
>got a question for ya, in two parts.
>
>1. do you have any suggestions for establishing a daily meditation
>routine? or, more importantly, how to go about the meditation process
>(i.e. what works for you, good things to think about / concentrate on, body
>position, etc.). i know i'm a perfectionist about this and always have to
>do it "by the book" but i get a warm fuzzy feeling from hearing how other
>people do this. i have a hard time with breathing regularly and swallowing
>- i get so "still" that i forget to breathe, and once i remember i've lost
>my concentration. any suggestions?
>
>2. frequently when i meditate (especially while laying in bed) when i
>get deep into it, i find that my whole body gets a really wierd tingly
>feeling, which is cool. it is however a sort of problem since the only way
>to describe it is that my entire body feels "charged" like i'm a human
>capacitor for virginia power. many times i also hear ringing in the ears.
>it can be slightly uncomfortable at times and used to scare the beegeebies
>out of me. although i've been dealing with it in my meditation, it is sort
>of distracting b/c it is not neccessarily a relaxing feeling, if you know
>what i mean.
> my question is, is there a way i should be using this energy, or is
>this a desirable feeling? is this energy coming in or stored energy (i.e.
>stress that needs to be released)?does anyone know what i'm talking about?
>my parents have been meditating for a while but they don't seem to
>recognize what i'm talking about. i got the idea yesterday to ask the
>group about this.
>
> the cool thing is that, after my meditation last night when i was
>"charged" i had a series of dreams, and i only remembered the last one
>completely but it was really cool, involving me spacewalking and robots and
>falling through the atmosphere. the most uplifting thing that has happened
>all year so far.
>
> oh, one other thing: anyone have any info on whether may 5, 2001 is
>important?
>
> take care,
> jeremy

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Clark stewart

01-19-2001, 02:40 PM

oh the ear buzzing, dw would know more than i, but it is assciated with
overtone harmonics, and can be used for intuitional nudges..it has do with a
deep sense of peace, that consists of bi-locational atomic bleed through..
i am thinking about as a stimulation of a certain gland that may or may not
be in this bio-shell but a parallel one..
and the bleed through connects some of our glands, maybe pineal, and
radiates outward from what seems to be a center pt. and reacts with
something in the ears...it is like for me a dog whistle is going off, except
for humans..
i think of it as "spidy sences"..laughs..
your on the rt track..your parents come from a different node of
exsistance..no biggy, most of 'ours' do..
any other comments , for this is just theoretical..?

c

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>subject: [asc2k] meditation suggestions
>date: fri, 19 jan 2001 23:22:02 -0500
>
>hope everyone's doing alright!
>
>got a question for ya, in two parts.
>
>1. do you have any suggestions for establishing a daily meditation
>routine? or, more importantly, how to go about the meditation process
>(i.e. what works for you, good things to think about / concentrate on, body
>position, etc.). i know i'm a perfectionist about this and always have to
>do it "by the book" but i get a warm fuzzy feeling from hearing how other
>people do this. i have a hard time with breathing regularly and swallowing
>- i get so "still" that i forget to breathe, and once i remember i've lost
>my concentration. any suggestions?
>
>2. frequently when i meditate (especially while laying in bed) when i
>get deep into it, i find that my whole body gets a really wierd tingly
>feeling, which is cool. it is however a sort of problem since the only way
>to describe it is that my entire body feels "charged" like i'm a human
>capacitor for virginia power. many times i also hear ringing in the ears.
>it can be slightly uncomfortable at times and used to scare the beegeebies
>out of me. although i've been dealing with it in my meditation, it is sort
>of distracting b/c it is not neccessarily a relaxing feeling, if you know
>what i mean.
> my question is, is there a way i should be using this energy, or is
>this a desirable feeling? is this energy coming in or stored energy (i.e.
>stress that needs to be released)?does anyone know what i'm talking about?
>my parents have been meditating for a while but they don't seem to
>recognize what i'm talking about. i got the idea yesterday to ask the
>group about this.
>
> the cool thing is that, after my meditation last night when i was
>"charged" i had a series of dreams, and i only remembered the last one
>completely but it was really cool, involving me spacewalking and robots and
>falling through the atmosphere. the most uplifting thing that has happened
>all year so far.
>
> oh, one other thing: anyone have any info on whether may 5, 2001 is
>important?
>
> take care,
> jeremy

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David Wilcock

01-19-2001, 04:37 PM

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>i had a conversation with christopher naughton, metaphysical radio talk show host, recently, and he said that the work of lazaris associated the "ear blast" with psychic sensitivity. specifically, he said that the temporal lobes of the brain become far more able to resonate with and sense minute changes in electromagnetic energy. i have noticed that there are times where it seems to happen as a result of an outside physical energy and not just spiritually-related events. 
>
>as per the melchizedek (bernard perona) data it is fun to read as fantasy but completely unsubstantiated by anything other than his own channeling. show me david suzuki's own published papers, please, and let me decide for myself instead of believing. and i find it very interesting that almost as soon as he started channeling in 1972, he predicted the end of the world only a few months away that august. naturally when this didn't happen he channeled that into the model as well. as ra says, when negative entities go online in a positive channel the first thing they will do is give messages of doom that do not come true and thus delegitimize the channel. case in point. 
>
>the various money-making schemes and duplicity that mr. perona has indulged in, especially in the last five years, are totally obvious signs of negative entity influence for self-aggrandizement. i know of many people who have turned away in the last few years from all involvement with him. these lies have earned him widespread condemnation from the metaphysical community and, you will notice, a total lockout from allthe big-named international talk radio circuits. 
>
>(i was disappointed that laura lee did an entire show with him about his "miracle" ascension water that "slices, dices and heals the planet in a jiffy!"you remember, right? "just a few drops will completely depollute an entire lake..." et cetera. and what happens if you drink the formula "specially formulated for the human body?" "well," says mr. perona, "that's the most exciting part but it's classified and i can't discuss it in public -- yet." the whole thing turned out to be a fake but not before many people bought literally 700-dollar vials of water thinking it would make them ascend.) 
>
>i don't dislike him or anyone else as a person, and yes the two books of his are actually fairly decent, but there are some highly significant problems with his teachings that are not difficult to find. 
>
>the only part of those two mailings that might have a possibility of being true in my eyes is the idea that artificial objects may not hold their matter frequency after the shift. but even that is a big stretch and does not conform with most other data points that indicate many artifacts from our world that will be rediscovered later. 
>
>i know that ra's informationseems just as "out there" but unlike mr. perona, all the channelings are freely available and they predicted many concrete scientific facts well before their official discoveries, as i will discuss in convergence iii. and l/l research has never veered from the positive polarity or tried to manipulate their readers in any way.
>
>peace be with you - 
>
>- david
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>
<tt>oh the ear buzzing, dw would know more than i, but it is assciated with
overtone harmonics, and can be used for intuitional nudges..it has do with a
deep sense of peace, that consists of bi-locational atomic bleed through..
i am thinking about as a stimulation of a certain gland that may or may not
be in this bio-shell but a parallel one..
and the bleed through connects some of our glands, maybe pineal, and
radiates outward from what seems to be a center pt. and reacts with
something in the ears...it is like for me a dog whistle is going off, except
for humans..
i think of it as "spidy sences"..laughs..
your on the rt track..your parents come from a different node of
exsistance..no biggy, most of 'ours' do..
any other comments , for this is just theoretical..?

c

>from: "jeremy weiland" <jweiland@nettalon.com>
>reply-to: asc2k@egroups.com
>to: "asc2kgroup" <asc2k@egroups.com>
>subject: [asc2k] meditation suggestions
>date: fri, 19 jan 2001 23:22:02 -0500
>
>hope everyone's doing alright!
>
>got a question for ya, in two parts.
>
>1. do you have any suggestions for establishing a daily meditation
>routine? or, more importantly, how to go about the meditation process
>(i.e. what works for you, good things to think about / concentrate on, body
>position, etc.). i know i'm a perfectionist about this and always have to
>do it "by the book" but i get a warm fuzzy feeling from hearing how other
>people do this. i have a hard time with breathing regularly and swallowing
>- i get so "still" that i forget to breathe, and once i remember i've lost
>my concentration. any suggestions?
>
>2. frequently when i meditate (especially while laying in bed) when i
>get deep into it, i find that my whole body gets a really wierd tingly
>feeling, which is cool. it is however a sort of problem since the only way
>to describe it is that my entire body feels "charged" like i'm a human
>capacitor for virginia power. many times i also hear ringing in the ears.
>it can be slightly uncomfortable at times and used to scare the beegeebies
>out of me. although i've been dealing with it in my meditation, it is sort
>of distracting b/c it is not neccessarily a relaxing feeling, if you know
>what i mean.
> my question is, is there a way i should be using this energy, or is
>this a desirable feeling? is this energy coming in or stored energy (i.e.
>stress that needs to be released)?does anyone know what i'm talking about?
>my parents have been meditating for a while but they don't seem to
>recognize what i'm talking about. i got the idea yesterday to ask the
>group about this.
>
> the cool thing is that, after my meditation last night when i was
>"charged" i had a series of dreams, and i only remembered the last one
>completely but it was really cool, involving me spacewalking and robots and
>falling through the atmosphere. the most uplifting thing that has happened
>all year so far.
>
> oh, one other thing: anyone have any info on whether may 5, 2001 is
>important?
>
> take care,
> jeremy

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Jeremy Weiland

01-19-2001, 08:22 PM

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>hope everyone's doing alright!
>
>got a question for ya, in two parts.
>
>1. do you have any suggestions for establishing a daily meditation routine? or, more importantly, how to go about the meditation process (i.e. what works for you, good things to think about / concentrate on, body position, etc.). i know i'm a perfectionist about this and always have to do it "by the book" but i get a warm fuzzy feeling from hearing how other people do this. i have a hard time with breathing regularly and swallowing - i get so "still" that i forget to breathe, and once i remember i've lost my concentration. any suggestions?
>
>2. frequently when i meditate (especially while laying in bed) when i get deep into it, i find that my whole body gets a really wierd tingly feeling, which is cool. it is however a sort of problem since the only way to describe it is that my entire body feels "charged" like i'm a human capacitor for virginia power. many times i also hear ringing in the ears. it can be slightly uncomfortable at times and used to scare the beegeebies out of me. although i've been dealing with it in my meditation, it is sort of distracting b/c it is not neccessarily a relaxing feeling, if you know what i mean. 
> my question is, is there a way i should be using this energy, or is this a desirable feeling? is this energy coming in or stored energy (i.e. stress that needs to be released)?does anyone know what i'm talking about?my parents have been meditating for a while but they don't seem to recognize what i'm talking about. i got the idea yesterday to ask the group about this.
>
> the cool thing is that, after my meditation last night when i was "charged" i had a series of dreams, and i only remembered the last one completely but it was really cool, involving me spacewalking and robots and falling through the atmosphere. the most uplifting thing that has happened all year so far.
>
> oh, one other thing: anyone have any info on whether may 5, 2001 is important?
>
> take care,
> jeremy

Clark stewart

01-20-2001, 03:19 AM

some things that i have noticed that don't fit so nicely..
scott's book, where extracted from ra, says that original populace of earth;
martians 50%, 25%earth, 25% other, where in ,"flower of life" vol.i says
they were a minority..

the water issue , dealing with the ,"perfect water " is a little more hairy,
and goes to the internal plant at turkey who was producing it..i was talking
with a water researcher from the u.s, who had been in direct contact with
d.milchezedek..(dm)
he says that due to the misuse of this "perfect water/super ionized water"
that the angelic harmonics were removed..
and that d.mel.. was trying to make a deal w this ceo guy from turkey , but
he was kind of a control freak..
but when d.m found out about this removal of the special essense..h e also
backed his support, which caused dramatic sales to decrease..d.m now
supports other water, such as ; cluster water, ionized water..

>

..">as per the melchizedek (bernard perona) data it is fun to read as
fantasy but completely unsubstantiated by anything other than his own
channeling."

i am not sure what data you are talking about, but if you have read his two
books..."completely unsubstantiated" is a little far..
for example the peices on sacred geometry have correlations with crystal
growth, microbiological growth, phi spiral interalation with plant & animal
structure & archeological indevours (asian pagodas)..

so i would like to see some links to such things that could be creditable
descrediting facts/data..

also i would like to know how d.m has " tried to manipulate" his readers..?

uncertainity is very healthy (heisenburg thought so anyway), but you dw are
also throwing alot of unsubstiated views of d.m, with heresay..
to me it comes down to the vibes, that the author is sending me..like i have
heard from several readers of dw's site and material that he comes across
quite self-aggrandizing..yes the material is good..!but what is the carrier
signal that is sending the message.

we have seen the ups and downs from dw, i can say my knowledge of d.m is not
as close/ (personal), but i have heard him speak.
recorded from a live world peace show on the maatresearch.com site..
never have i heard such a compassionate man, and i have heard the dali lama
and other greats speak..
maybe he is not who he sounds or appears to be, but i have yet to see such
facts, but i am surely open to them..

he helped me connect to mother earth and father sky , like never
before..literally...never had i actually connected, untill this audio
clip...i couldn't really explain what this nrg was that came into me when i
was listening to d.m's narration mediation.
but when i saw greg braden's video, "beyond zero pt"..he helped me realize
why i was crying, when this connection took place..
apparently it had to do w the body attempting to balance out this new
nrg..and this made sooo much sense, for at the time i had no explaination
for why i all of suddenly started crying ...? but it was very powerfully
beautiful..
like when we don't cry (maybe some guys know what i mean, from youth via
parental masculinity) it does not allow the fullness of the moment which i
believe inhibits growth.
the crying resulted directly from this message of mother earth sending me a
signal back..

i also believe that with such instruments as haarp working w the world sts
elite, that they have the good potential in creating a disinformative
opinion amoungst us....just theoretical of course...but i 'm not the first
to make such claims..
all wanderers as ra says are primary targets for the neg orientated
beings...including dw, and dm.

so what do you peeps think..?

in l/l,
clark

show me david suzuki's own published papers, please, and let me decide for
myself instead of believing. and i find it very interesting that almost as
soon as he started channeling in 1972, he predicted the end of the world
only a few months away that august. naturally when this didn't happen he
channeled that into the model as well. as ra says, when negative entities go
online in a positive channel the first thing they will do is give messages
of doom that do not come true and thus delegitimize the channel. case in
point.
>
>the various money-making schemes and duplicity that mr. perona has indulged
>in, especially in the last five years, are totally obvious signs of
>negative entity influence for self-aggrandizement. i know of many people
>who have turned away in the last few years from all involvement with him.
>these lies have earned him widespread condemnation from the metaphysical
>community and, you will notice, a total lockout from all the big-named
>international talk radio circuits.
>
>(i was disappointed that laura lee did an entire show with him about his
>"miracle" ascension water that "slices, dices and heals the planet in a
>jiffy!" you remember, right? "just a few drops will completely depollute an
>entire lake..." et cetera. and what happens if you drink the formula
>"specially formulated for the human body?" "well," says mr. perona, "that's
>the most exciting part but it's classified and i can't discuss it in public
>-- yet." the whole thing turned out to be a fake but not before many people
>bought literally 700-dollar vials of water thinking it would make them
>ascend.)
>
>i don't dislike him or anyone else as a person, and yes the two books of
>his are actually fairly decent, but there are some highly significant
>problems with his teachings that are not difficult to find.
>
>the only part of those two mailings that might have a possibility of being
>true in my eyes is the idea that artificial objects may not hold their
>matter frequency after the shift. but even that is a big stretch and does
>not conform with most other data points that indicate many artifacts from
>our world that will be rediscovered later.
>
>i know that ra's information seems just as "out there" but unlike mr.
>perona, all the channelings are freely available and they predicted many
>concrete scientific facts well before their official discoveries, as i will
>discuss in convergence iii. and l/l research has never veered from the
>positive polarity or tried to manipulate their readers in any way.
>
>peace be with you -
>
>- david
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> from: clark stewart
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> sent: friday, january 19, 2001 5:40 pm
> subject: re: [asc2k] meditation suggestions
>
>
> oh the ear buzzing, dw would know more than i, but it is assciated with
> overtone harmonics, and can be used for intuitional nudges..it has do
>with a
> deep sense of peace, that consists of bi-locational atomic bleed
>through..
> i am thinking about as a stimulation of a certain gland that may or may
>not
> be in this bio-shell but a parallel one..
> and the bleed through connects some of our glands, maybe pineal, and
> radiates outward from what seems to be a center pt. and reacts with
> something in the ears...it is like for me a dog whistle is going off,
>except
> for humans..
> i think of it as "spidy sences"..laughs..
> your on the rt track..your parents come from a different node of
> exsistance..no biggy, most of 'ours' do..
> any other comments , for this is just theoretical..?
>
> c
>
> >from: "jeremy weiland" <jweiland@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=ku9iagst6pgx6lanzfx7ip1zstkbrdvbjwzt7l 0s1tuqkqlvfuf7if4wftpzdjmgozulxznz2chdvlw)>
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> >subject: [asc2k] meditation suggestions
> >date: fri, 19 jan 2001 23:22:02 -0500
> >
> >hope everyone's doing alright!
> >
> >got a question for ya, in two parts.
> >
> >1. do you have any suggestions for establishing a daily meditation
> >routine? or, more importantly, how to go about the meditation process
> >(i.e. what works for you, good things to think about / concentrate on,
>body
> >position, etc.). i know i'm a perfectionist about this and always have
>to
> >do it "by the book" but i get a warm fuzzy feeling from hearing how
>other
> >people do this. i have a hard time with breathing regularly and
>swallowing
> >- i get so "still" that i forget to breathe, and once i remember i've
>lost
> >my concentration. any suggestions?
> >
> >2. frequently when i meditate (especially while laying in bed) when
>i
> >get deep into it, i find that my whole body gets a really wierd tingly
> >feeling, which is cool. it is however a sort of problem since the only
>way
> >to describe it is that my entire body feels "charged" like i'm a human
> >capacitor for virginia power. many times i also hear ringing in the
>ears.
> >it can be slightly uncomfortable at times and used to scare the
>beegeebies
> >out of me. although i've been dealing with it in my meditation, it is
>sort
> >of distracting b/c it is not neccessarily a relaxing feeling, if you
>know
> >what i mean.
> > my question is, is there a way i should be using this energy, or
>is
> >this a desirable feeling? is this energy coming in or stored energy
>(i.e.
> >stress that needs to be released)?does anyone know what i'm talking
>about?
> >my parents have been meditating for a while but they don't seem to
> >recognize what i'm talking about. i got the idea yesterday to ask the
> >group about this.
> >
> > the cool thing is that, after my meditation last night when i was
> >"charged" i had a series of dreams, and i only remembered the last one
> >completely but it was really cool, involving me spacewalking and robots
>and
> >falling through the atmosphere. the most uplifting thing that has
>happened
> >all year so far.
> >
> > oh, one other thing: anyone have any info on whether may 5, 2001
>is
> >important?
> >
> > take care,
> > jeremy
>
>
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> thanks for all the great suggestions from everyone. it really is quite excitingwhen the discussion that takes place here has a personal effect on your life. i wish i could have thanked everyone sooner, butthe email server is being moronic.
> i have not read any dm (on matters dealing with acronyms of names and abbreviated typing, i yield to fudo - the recognized authority). however, it seems to keep being shoved in my face. this may be a sign. one thing's for sure - the importance of meditation and meditating well is not going to diminish in the coming years, and the different perspectives we all bring to this dialogue can only help make us better spiritual citizens. so thanks again to david and all those who have helped me with love and guidance.
> i'm sorry that this thread took a turn towards, well, a more negative tone. i know that i get major negative vibes whenever there is an attack upon something that is dear to another's heart, no matter what the reason. there's got to be a way that we can have a discussion on this list without reverting to fallen behavioral patterns of attack / defend. although that pattern isthe norm for most internet discussion lists (trust me on that one :-) we should strive to break the mold.
> i just get a panicky little anxious feeling whenever we're telling people that what they believe is wrong. if we're gonna be left-brained about the whole mess, we might as well revert to "logical positivism" and give up looking for anything beyond that. part of being beyond that is realizing that the whole story is not always known or knowable. part ofwhere we're atis about trusting people to be masters of themselves. part of it is about admitting our own fallibility. a big part of it is about faith in that which we hold as the essence and foundation of everything webelieve in (and argue over).as over-emotional and cliche as it sounds, we really do have infinitely more in common than different.(c'mon,dubya's in office now;he's a uniter, not a divider <lol>).
> c'mon. we're all charting unknown waters here - and given that universal fact, we can cut each other a little slack, can't we? until the next episode...
> in love and light,
> jeremy
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>

>i had a conversation with christopher naughton, metaphysical radio talk show host, recently, and he said that the work of lazaris associated the "ear blast" with psychic sensitivity. specifically, he said that the temporal lobes of the brain become far more able to resonate with and sense minute changes in electromagnetic energy. i have noticed that there are times where it seems to happen as a result of an outside physical energy and not just spiritually-related events. 
>
>as per the melchizedek (bernard perona) data it is fun to read as fantasy but completely unsubstantiated by anything other than his own channeling. show me david suzuki's own published papers, please, and let me decide for myself instead of believing. and i find it very interesting that almost as soon as he started channeling in 1972, he predicted the end of the world only a few months away that august. naturally when this didn't happen he channeled that into the model as well. as ra says, when negative entities go online in a positive channel the first thing they will do is give messages of doom that do not come true and thus delegitimize the channel. case in point. 
>
>the various money-making schemes and duplicity that mr. perona has indulged in, especially in the last five years, are totally obvious signs of negative entity influence for self-aggrandizement. i know of many people who have turned away in the last few years from all involvement with him. these lies have earned him widespread condemnation from the metaphysical community and, you will notice, a total lockout from allthe big-named international talk radio circuits. 
>
>(i was disappointed that laura lee did an entire show with him about his "miracle" ascension water that "slices, dices and heals the planet in a jiffy!"you remember, right? "just a few drops will completely depollute an entire lake..." et cetera. and what happens if you drink the formula "specially formulated for the human body?" "well," says mr. perona, "that's the most exciting part but it's classified and i can't discuss it in public -- yet." the whole thing turned out to be a fake but not before many people bought literally 700-dollar vials of water thinking it would make them ascend.) 
>
>i don't dislike him or anyone else as a person, and yes the two books of his are actually fairly decent, but there are some highly significant problems with his teachings that are not difficult to find. 
>
>the only part of those two mailings that might have a possibility of being true in my eyes is the idea that artificial objects may not hold their matter frequency after the shift. but even that is a big stretch and does not conform with most other data points that indicate many artifacts from our world that will be rediscovered later. 
>
>i know that ra's informationseems just as "out there" but unlike mr. perona, all the channelings are freely available and they predicted many concrete scientific facts well before their official discoveries, as i will discuss in convergence iii. and l/l research has never veered from the positive polarity or tried to manipulate their readers in any way.
>
>peace be with you - 
>
>- david
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>
<tt>oh the ear buzzing, dw would know more than i, but it is assciated with
overtone harmonics, and can be used for intuitional nudges..it has do with a
deep sense of peace, that consists of bi-locational atomic bleed through..
i am thinking about as a stimulation of a certain gland that may or may not
be in this bio-shell but a parallel one..
and the bleed through connects some of our glands, maybe pineal, and
radiates outward from what seems to be a center pt. and reacts with
something in the ears...it is like for me a dog whistle is going off, except
for humans..
i think of it as "spidy sences"..laughs..
your on the rt track..your parents come from a different node of
exsistance..no biggy, most of 'ours' do..
any other comments , for this is just theoretical..?

c

>from: "jeremy weiland" <jweiland@nettalon.com>
>reply-to: asc2k@egroups.com
>to: "asc2kgroup" <asc2k@egroups.com>
>subject: [asc2k] meditation suggestions
>date: fri, 19 jan 2001 23:22:02 -0500
>
>hope everyone's doing alright!
>
>got a question for ya, in two parts.
>
>1. do you have any suggestions for establishing a daily meditation
>routine? or, more importantly, how to go about the meditation process
>(i.e. what works for you, good things to think about / concentrate on, body
>position, etc.). i know i'm a perfectionist about this and always have to
>do it "by the book" but i get a warm fuzzy feeling from hearing how other
>people do this. i have a hard time with breathing regularly and swallowing
>- i get so "still" that i forget to breathe, and once i remember i've lost
>my concentration. any suggestions?
>
>2. frequently when i meditate (especially while laying in bed) when i
>get deep into it, i find that my whole body gets a really wierd tingly
>feeling, which is cool. it is however a sort of problem since the only way
>to describe it is that my entire body feels "charged" like i'm a human
>capacitor for virginia power. many times i also hear ringing in the ears.
>it can be slightly uncomfortable at times and used to scare the beegeebies
>out of me. although i've been dealing with it in my meditation, it is sort
>of distracting b/c it is not neccessarily a relaxing feeling, if you know
>what i mean.
> my question is, is there a way i should be using this energy, or is
>this a desirable feeling? is this energy coming in or stored energy (i.e.
>stress that needs to be released)?does anyone know what i'm talking about?
>my parents have been meditating for a while but they don't seem to
>recognize what i'm talking about. i got the idea yesterday to ask the
>group about this.
>
> the cool thing is that, after my meditation last night when i was
>"charged" i had a series of dreams, and i only remembered the last one
>completely but it was really cool, involving me spacewalking and robots and
>falling through the atmosphere. the most uplifting thing that has happened
>all year so far.
>
> oh, one other thing: anyone have any info on whether may 5, 2001 is
>important?
>
> take care,
> jeremy

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01-24-2001, 01:05 AM

--- jeremy wrote
> we might as well revert to "logical
> positivism" and give up looking for anything beyond
> that. part of being beyond that is realizing that
> the whole story is not always known or knowable.
> part of where we're at is about trusting people to
> be masters of themselves. part of it is about
> admitting our own fallibility. a big part of it is
> about faith in that which we hold as the essence and
> foundation of everything we believe in (and argue
> over).

add to that the idea that it is exactly the same to
take offense as it is to give offense and when that is
realized the negative response melts away.

rod

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