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LightEye

01-08-2010, 10:31 AM

dear friends,

http://www.treurniet.ca/spirals/spiralclues.htm

be well,be love.

david

spirals in the sky
william c. treurniet, jan, 2010

summary. in 2004, eight luminous orbs, arranged as an archimedes spiral, were photographed over long island in the usa. in 2009, a luminous cloud of smaller particles, also arranged as an archimedes spiral, was photographed over norway. these sightings support the proposition that a single unknown technology is being used to create many of the luminous unidentified objects that have been reported. occasionally these objects are arranged in the form of an archimedes spiral.

on december 9, 2009, norwegians were treated to an unusual aerial display. one of the photos of the scene is presented in figure 1. dubbed the norway spiral, it was widely considered to have been caused by a failed russian rocket test. the pattern is considered by many people to be the result of a spinning, out-of-control rocket ejecting fuel particles into the upper atmosphere. belated admission by russian authorities that such a failure had occurred seemed to confirm this interpretation.

Gort

01-08-2010, 02:55 PM

i can't remember if i posted this or not.

http://www.hessdalen.org/

if this isn't proof, i don't know what is.:)

eagleye

01-13-2010, 04:39 PM

richard hoagland is going to love this. more evidence of past or present life on mars from nasa’s own photos:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/13/mars-tree-photo-nasa-hiri_n_421507.html

of course as would be expected nasa has come up with another ridiculous explanation to explain it away. will you believe your own eyes, or the contrived false explanations of a proven compulsive liar?

also something really funny happened just a moment ago. i showed someone this picture and asked them what they were looking at. they immediately responded that it was trees surrounded by sand and snow. i then told them it was mars and they said, “i don’t believe those are pictures of mars, someone is trying to trick you”. then i told her nasa says they are from mars and the pictures were taken with the newest camera. then she said, “ok it is mars, but those can’t be trees then”. if it was from earth you would not be able to convince her it was not trees. as soon as she found out it was mars her belief system actually changed the belief of what she thought she was looking at.

this proves to me that people don’t believe what they see, they see what they believe. no amount of concrete proof in the world will be able to change the mind of a true skeptic who has decided ahead of time, that life on other planets does not exist and that we are not being visited.

Fortyball

01-14-2010, 08:58 AM

im not too sure what to make of this. at first sight it did look like trees but i couldnt see any shadows of them. also, now i dont know much about the appearance of coniferous trees in desert conditions, but it would seem to me condiering the good resolution of the camera used that where the trees meet the ground would not be the same colour as the rest of the trees.
nasa's explanation that they are 'trails of debris caused by landslides as ice melts in mars's spring' doesnt seem to me to fully explain it either. the lines at the top right of the photo do seem to suggest this but the gradient of the terrain in other places of the photo dont seem to support this.
i would like very much if these were indeed trees, another 'spanner in the works' and all that.
does anyone know the distance this photo was taken at and the magnification if any, these would be helpful to assess the scale we'd be talking about.

eagleye

01-14-2010, 09:45 AM

check this out! like i said before, the sightings are getting better and clearer with each passing month. there is no mystery left for the witnesses present when these kinds of events happen. this one is obviously deliberately trying to attract attention to itself just before it turns into a giant bright orb, and then dematerializes! :d

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cupwdfwskau&feature=player_embedded

noppy

01-14-2010, 11:52 AM

holy apples !!! i'm gona show this to my family!! finaly some proof !!!

thanks for sharing the link eagleye

LightEye

01-16-2010, 11:34 AM

dear friends,

http://www.viewzone.com/spiralthing.html

be well, be love.

david

the controversy continues...
by dan eden exclusively for viewzone
january 15, 2010

about a decade ago, while i was woking for viewzone, i was invited up to fairbanks, alaska to see a secret military installation. the people who invited me were two young men who had recently been discharged from the navy. they were concerned about two tests that had been conducted with a powerful transmitter, capable of reflecting electrical and kinetic energy off the ionosphere -- a layer of earth's atmosphere about 100 miles above sea level.

while we have all heard of the haarp installation in gakona, alaska [below], this facility was much larger and more powerful. it was located north of fairbanks in an area known as "poker flats." i was told by these men that the gakona facility was a decoy -- a "red herring."

Jenkins

01-16-2010, 05:56 PM

jellyfish

01-18-2010, 03:30 PM

i don't know about that last vid that was posted. it looks genuine, but the looped audio of the barking dog raises my suspicions. i asked the uploader about it and he/she blocked me from being able to comment at all. hmmmmmm....

it would be a shame if it were fake, becase if so it would just go to show that you really can't tell one from the other at this point.

eagleye

01-19-2010, 05:53 PM

dogs can bark for hours without stopping and continue to sound exactly the same. i have witnessed this many times. in fact it has kept me up with many sleepless nights in the past. i’m sure others can say the same about their neighbor’s dogs. also it is most likely barking at the giant moving light in the sky.

this is just a guess, but i suspect the reason the person blocked your post is probably because they know what they saw and they know it is real. therefore they probably don’t want others bringing doubtful comments to the page which would take away from the fact that it is real. the only reason they probably put it on youtube is to convince others of this, not to get involved in debates with doubters.

if i had a video of what i saw and posted it on youtube, i would also erase or block all negative comments. i would only leave comments which convinced the viewer that what i saw was real. my aim in posting the video would not be to debate, or to have others debate, but only to show what i saw. they probably don’t want to be bothered in arguing with you either, especially since there could be hundreds of other people sending them the same kinds of questions about why they don’t think it is real. with the 18,197 hits they currently have to the video, it may even be thousands of similar people heckling them. even if they wanted to they would not be able to respond to all of them all.

for those of us who have seen these ships up close, and in real life, we don’t have to try to convince ourselves if the videos are real or not. we know that most of them are real. what i saw in real life was just as clear an up close as what you see in the video. you two will eventually see one in real life since our reality is rapidly changing. these sightings are a deliberate disclosure. there are now millions of people who have personally seen them and that number will continue to rise.

i am starting to see though that no matter how clear or up close these videos become, many people will still refuse to believe what they see. even if someone were to be picked up and went inside the ship with a video camera they still would not believe it. the only way is for you to believe the videos is see it for yourself, in real life. that is why a formal disclosure and then worldwide landings are necessary to finally wake the rest of the population up. please don’t be surprised if it happens. :)

transiten

01-19-2010, 07:52 PM

what about this one?

ufo on aztec mayan calendar "medal"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mujsntymcsg&feature=related

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jellyfish

01-20-2010, 12:24 AM

just to be clear, i never accused the uploader of faking the video. i respectfully asked him/her about the seemingly looped audio (i watched and listened carefully a number of times. that dog does a perfect second take). when i noticed my comment had been deleted, i asked about that. after that, i was blocked from posting. seems it would be more productive to gaining acceptance to simply address the question, maybe in the description, and take care of it instead of blocking the questions of sincere, if discerning believers.

that said, i hope the video is genuine, that would be great. it does *look* real to me. i've never been fortunate enough to personally see a clear ufo. i've seen funny lights in the sky, but this is a whole different deal.

cheers

Anette

01-20-2010, 02:02 AM

about a week ago i noticed what seemed to be a star in the horizon, but it was blinking with different colours. it wasn't moving, and i watched it for a while, and just went to get something and when i came back, it was gone. when i watched the youtube-clip eagleye posted here, i was amazed, because it was exactly the same light as i saw. the light in the sky was about the last thing i saw before going to bed, and the youtube-video just about the first thing i saw the next morning. but then again, i don't know a lot about stars, and it could be that they do this blinking light-show just before dying or something... :rolleyes:

we have a lot of dogs in the neighborhood, and i can swear that their owners sometimes just hit their repeat-button! ;)

The Walking Tree

01-20-2010, 08:03 AM

analyze the waveform in a music program and see if the waveforms are identical. i personally won't bother because it doesn't seem looped to me. i'm wondering if it's a himat flare, which can be remote controlled and look very similar, however those usually glow a consistent orange.

evolving

01-20-2010, 10:21 AM

it is a sound loop.

eagleye

01-20-2010, 10:35 AM

wow transiten, thank you for posting that. it is amazing to see the blueprints for creating torsion field propulsion on mayan artifacts! i never knew that.

i like that guy to. he is really funny, but surprisingly brilliant. looking at his model of a torsion field generator reminded me of the norway spiral.

anette,

you can be sure that stars don’t disappear unless a cloud or some object moves in front of them. if it is a star it would reappear after the object moved away. i have seen these “stars” a number of times, but i was fortunate enough to have them move closer so that i recognized what they actually were. if you could have zoomed into it before it disappeared there is a very good chance that this is what you would have seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cccc-grxhji&feature=related

toward the end of the video they zoom out again so that you can see how it would appear to be a star. :)

eagleye

01-20-2010, 12:14 PM

this video goes along nicely with the one transiten posted:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=165122

it seems our true history is in many ways is not so different from our present. but then again maybe what they saw were military flares, that the military had on remote control and sent back in time to fool them. or maybe they had their own youtube and internet, and all they were watching were only made up videos. which explanation seems to make more sense to you?

also notice the big yellow “star” in one of the pictures toward the end.

eagleye

01-20-2010, 02:55 PM

the russian pyramid seen in florida?

notice the black specs moving away from it and dissipating just before the whole thing disappears. this is the third video i have seen with this same pyramid hovering in the sky. i really don’t know what to make of it, whether it is haarp, or if it is an actual solid object. but the black dots make it even more intriguing because they look like pods leaving a mother ship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bwhuozo3g0

transiten

01-20-2010, 03:15 PM

wow!

thanks eagleye! i've seen some of them and this was a fantastic collection that i will show one of my friends that suddenly after a trip to peru and shamanic healing rite has opened up and now i can talk to her about the things discussed here!

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JoshERTW

01-20-2010, 04:01 PM

eagleye,

history channel had a docu called ancient aliens a while back which covered many of the things shown in those clips, and described even more evidence such as the stuff in eric von danikens chariots of the gods (he is interviewed a few times in the docu). check it out if you get the chance, i sadly do not have a link i can post for it however.

eagleye

01-20-2010, 05:58 PM

yes joshertw i saw that show and it was excellent. i was very happy to see it on national tv.

speaking of national tv, i just had a mind blowing experience while flipping through the channels on my tv. on msnbc they were reporting live on some kind of story. i don’t even know what it was about because i was not listening to what they were saying. instead my attention was captivated by something i saw in the background. there was a lady reporter standing in front of the camera, obviously in washington d.c which i could tell by the building in the background. all of a sudden two yellow flashing orbs appeared in the sky in the background! they hovered for a while, and then drifted down and toward the horizon. as one disappeared the other went lower and continued to flash and get bigger. i could make out a clearly defined pulsating center which was encased in a semi-transparent sphere. the lady standing in front of the camera had no idea what was happening behind her as the one orb stayed for the rest of the report. they finally switched cameras back to the other guy talking to her.

i believe the orbs knew they were on tv, and did it on purpose. i have also seen additional footage on youtube of ufo’s showing up in the background when reporters are on live tv. the most recent footage i saw was of one in haiti after the earthquakes. it is almost as if they are saying, “since you refused to provide disclosure, we will do it for you”. :d

JoshERTW

01-21-2010, 04:24 AM

ya, i saw that one in haiti, they are interviewing people in the street and theres a white ufo in broad daylight hanging out in the corner of the screen changing shape.

i swear i saw one behind a communications tower on my way home the other night too. it looked like a start behind the tower, but then it moved horizontally and had a "tail" of light, and was gone. it was pretty far away so maybe it was something else, but either way, i was pretty sure what i was seeing and i wasn't nearly as excited as i thought i would have been, must have overloaded my senses with youtube videos haha.

conundrum

01-22-2010, 02:54 AM

i was pretty sure what i was seeing and i wasn't nearly as excited as i thought i would have been

yeah i have noticed that with myself and others seeing things that are not the normal mundane seem to have little effect well once i said wow did you see that and those in my presence just shrugged there shoulders.

it must be more of a feeling one gets if one can still feel through the cloud of wo that surrounds the planet damaged instrument ect.

CosmicParent

01-24-2010, 05:58 PM

several orbs around the sun from jan 18th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqxumnvxtjc
pics put to music

thegate

01-26-2010, 04:30 PM

well, this is quite interesting.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100126/tsc-life-us-britain-science-aliens-011ccfa.html

"quote"

rapid technological leaps forward in the last 10 years mean mankind is closer than ever before to knowing whether extra-terrestrial life exists in our galaxy, one of britain's leading scientists said on tuesday. skip related content
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astronomer and president of the royal society (academy of science) martin rees said science had made enormous progress in the search for planets grouped around other distant stars -- a discipline he stressed did not exist in the 1990s.

"now we know that most of the stars, like the sun, are likely to have planetary systems around them and we have every reason to suspect that many of them have planets that are rather like our earth," rees told reuters in an interview.

he said great strides in space search techniques over the last decade had removed one of the big obstacles in finding other worlds, and possibly even complex life forms, in our milky way galaxy of 100 million stars.

"indeed, we live in very exciting times," he said.

Deambor

01-27-2010, 01:35 PM

maybe something is going on, but regarding any sort of ufo type object being at that proximity to the sun... it's sort of doubtful. can you image? it's probably millions and millions of degrees of heat there.
and then flying into the sun?

and yet there are definitely some objects right near it.

incredible!

hyperspacelace

01-27-2010, 05:38 PM

currently the people of south america is experiencing a mass wave of ufo sightings,
with awesome video proof.
the first video is of a mass daylight ufo sighting being reported in the news.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l522bcjzcck
the second video it seems to be the same type of craft at a lower altitude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=livaud9gu0e

aqcheryl

01-27-2010, 06:38 PM

sorry if this is already covered, i went back a few pages but didnt see its mention:
http://news.discovery.com/space/aurora-mystery-solved.html

i mean, it doesnt really look like a parachute to me. more like a spinning top toy. a parachute shape would make me question the origin, if it was "man-made", like some weird weather balloon or something.

but the shape i see is more...extraterrestrial to me.

meganarline

01-29-2010, 05:29 AM

in the deep region of himalayas, people are reporting strange behaviors in children. they are using sign languages that is unknown to their families and any one around. many of them draw pictures of triangular objects flying in the sky. many of them do not know what they saw and how they learnt these sign languages.

some in the region of aksai chin believe that these children regularly communicate with the extra-terrestrials who are only visible to these children and communicate via spiritual telepathy. the children learn the sign language to communicate back to these beings from another galaxy or universe.

david was right, india daily is the spot for news on disclosure.

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/01-29d-05.asp

weboy78

01-29-2010, 05:37 AM

what you are seeing here is a "solid object" it's not compression artifacts, pixels or dust, who says so? nasa! on their official web site read on below
http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/01/nasa-images-earth-sized-spherical.html

http://www.colinandrews.net/solarspheres-02.html
hi colin
i have been looking into the sun spheres anomalies. the explanations i have seen
are similar to those on your site.

what i have not had resolved is why all of the initial images (n7eua) series were
quickly removed and replaced by another series of images (n4eua) with no
explanation as to where the initial series of images went or, whether or not they
were altered somehow.

the explanation from nasa on your site seems to address this but in a very
circuitous manner.

nasa has a reputation for not being very forthcoming on errors they make or
explaining air-brushings of lunar photos.

can you shed any light on this matter from what you have found out?

regards
victor viggiani
director of media relations
exopolitics canada

hyperspacelace

01-29-2010, 10:04 AM

this is a video from brazil. the man being interviewed is a researcher for project portal.
project portal is research group studying beings from other planets. he is claiming first contact with 4th and 5th dimensional extraterrestrials.
in the video evidence there are these spheres of plasma that enter into there bodies. he says that these spheres of plasma are not beings. it is a technology used by these et beings to enhance are electromagnetic field, synchronize are cells enhancing are electrical cell charge. this is to prepare the body for physical contact with the et's.

this is the evidence he brings to national tv.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcwlu5x_syo
(this video has been translated to english)

eagleye

01-29-2010, 03:31 PM

this is awesome because it is on the ground!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8hnxf79vh8&feature=player_embedded#

in watching this i now realize that many of the ships that appear to dematerialize are actually activating an invisibility cloak. you will notice in the slow motion footage that it is mostly invisible but still there! :d

Berry Chastain

01-29-2010, 05:49 PM

meganarlene,
thank you for this. i have read many reports that there is a concentration of et activity in the himalyas and perhaps an underground base from which they operate. i don't have any doubt that these children the article speaks of are indeed communicating with our space brothers.
india is far ahead of the west in its understanding and willingness to communicate with extraterrestrials. i suspect that they are already in extended interaction with them considering the new and vigorous space exploration which they are now participating in. and i must say coming up with pertanant information before the west does, such as the existance of water on the surface of the moon and who knows what else.
i have a friend in india who takes the et phenomenon with a grain of salt. it is not the big issue it is here in the us or europe. lets realize that their sacred scriptures describes extraterrestrial activity on the earth particularly india (rama) in very explicit details. they are no strangers to our galactic neighbors.

l&l
berry

Berry Chastain

01-29-2010, 05:58 PM

i saw this earlier today and was going to post it here. thanks for doing it. this is amazing video and very unique footage. yes, i did notice that there was some sort of distortion in both cases after the cloaking, almost like there was a circle of points surrounding where the probe was located prior to its disappearance. obviously in the second case, the vehicle must have moved as the two trucks progressed right though that portion of road where it had been. very interesting videos and unique to say the least.
my question in my mind was what were they doing hovering so close to the ground and right over a road way in both instances? also where was this filmed? the video doesn't give any clues except that the script was in spanish.

conundrum

01-29-2010, 06:45 PM

interesting comment after the first video a wick from phils shop interesting .

hyperspacelace

01-29-2010, 07:21 PM

here are two more awesome up close daytime videos of a saucer type ufo.

in the first video the ufo is sequencing a multicolored light show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cupwdfwskau&feature=fvw

the second video is what appears to be the same type of saucer craft filmed in england .
this video was aired on the local news, and it is the most up close and detailed video i have ever seen a saucer type craft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq17oy5fni8&annotation_id=annotation_957966&feature=iv

greenbarry

01-31-2010, 09:30 PM

this is apicutre i took a few years ago... any ideas?

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/sgt_kikr/light-up-n-tha-sky.jpg

i zoomed in the best i could get it.

also seen this one approximately in the area as the first.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/sgt_kikr/it-sits-there.jpg

i could probly set up right now and take more pictures of this light. my camera isnt the best. a 500 dollar 8 megapixal vibration reduction 3x zoom nikon. at least i can get a picture of it.
please comments welcome and say what you think. i know what i thought.. wow, that is strange i got to snap it!
peace to all
greenbarry

evolving

02-01-2010, 08:24 PM

official nasa statement - weather balloon

2/1/2010 - though this may appear to be some sort of strangely lit ufo, if you look closely, you can see it is a high resonance weather balloon. obvious are the electromagnetic resonance chargers hanging just under the photoscopic tri-median canopy. there are high winds in the upper troposphere, causing the jittery effect, though on the ground it may appear calm.

did that sound like something nasa or the government might say to confuse you all? nice words, shame about the lies...

nice pics :)

The Walking Tree

02-02-2010, 06:27 AM

eagleye

02-02-2010, 06:01 PM

the poster never said he made the russian videos. he is only claiming they are fake because he says his is fake. but he can’t be trusted. whether or not it is fake cannot be determined by the poster because he is already claiming to have lied. this person does not give their name or identify themselves in any way. in addition they only have one video on their channel which was created when they uploaded this video.

my guess is they used the real footage from the russian videos, to create this one as disinfo in order to discredit the real ones. so in a way it might not be fake but real because the actual pyramid could be from the real footage, only the background is the wrong background. regardless though, this is a pathetic attempt to discredit the thousands of real videos.

LightEye

02-03-2010, 01:51 PM

dear friends,

latest on the norway spiral from rch...

http://www.enterprisemission.com/norway-message3.htm

be well, be love.

david

a "nobel torsion message" over norway?
part iii
by richard c. hoagland
© 2010 the enterprise mission

in the extended pre-dawn darkeness over norway last december, as we have recounted in parts i and ii of this report ... "something" truly amazing happened--

and reaction immediately divided into two totally opposing views:

those who "bought" the official media story ... that "it was only another failed russian missile test ..."--

and then ... those who thought "it just might be something else this time ...."

as we have shown previously, there can be little doubt at this point that a russian rocket was involved.

but--

the conclusion that everyone has jumped to -- with the striking exception of the russians themselves -- that, somehow, the russians caused the spiral--

well, that's a "leap too far" ....

we can now report, based on analysis of the extensive imaging evidence reported via the norwegian press, that the norway spiral was not primarily caused by "a failed russian missile test ...."

but--

the failed russian rocket could, in fact, have been caused by whatever forces "created the norway spiral ...."

this section of our on-going analysis will describe precisely "how."

* * *

the scientific evidence behind this growing set of suspicions -- that the spiral somehow caused the russian missile to fail -- lies in the extraordinary geometric structure that enterprise has discovered within the too-perfect, too-concentric "shell-like rings" ... making up the spiral (below)--

Free1

02-03-2010, 04:25 PM

just seen great ufo programme on bbc3. danny saw his first ufo! well... actually he saw loads!!! very cool footage at the end looking through night vision goggles/cameras. at famous ufo mountain research centre. this is great that this info is now coming out more and more in the mainstream- getting all those non believers out there to gradually accept 'we are not alone' so it won't be such a shock when real disclosure happens. :)
parts of the programme are on youtube- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeplkoydl4w.

Edragon

02-04-2010, 07:11 AM

these spheres appeared jan 18th, 2010 its they llok like there charging up but dont seem to be affected by the suns gravity.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-8199-breakthrough-energy-examiner~y2010m1d27-earthsized-spheres-in-vicinity-of-sun

Desertrose

02-06-2010, 11:30 AM

11wanderer11

02-07-2010, 03:16 PM

hi everyone,

i have been following david's work for over a year and i get excited over anything he shares with us. i never doubted the existence of ufo's until i read that the illuminati contact "demons" or "jinn", who sometimes represent themselves as aliens and provide them with valuable information during dark rituals. these demons are from other dimensions and appear only during rituals that allow for cross-dimensional occurrences. also, because the illuminati are basically "luciferians" (satanists), so they basically have sold their souls to the devil in return for worldly pleasures. i also read in one of the forums that some aliens will appear to be positive ones and are here to help humanity (just like the luciferian demons do), when in fact they are here trying to fulfill a mission to their advantage. i'm just wondering if anyone has read about this anywhere and if the crop circles are created by those demons who serve "lucifer" in hopes of trying to control our mind to believe in a certain direction. david did mention in one of his interviews that most of the ufo's we see are in fact negative. and those ufo's would bring their vibrations down so they become visible to us in the third density. when compared to the luciferian demons, they also have to cross dimensions in order to be visible to those who call for them. so, what's the difference between those "demons" and the ufo's which david speaks of?

any comments appreciated :confused:

desertrose

hmmm, i'm not familiar with david ever saying most ufo's we see are negative, but i am a little familiar with what you speak of. demon is just a descriptive word for a really negative entity. i'm sure anybody could think of people here on earth who could be described as demons as well for their inhumane actions. everything is vibration, and different vibrations are different dimensions, where both positive and negative entities reside depending on the vibration. there's always negative entities trying to do some dirty work because that's just the way things are. the ones here on earth do the rituals like you say and get their orders from the negatives in other dimensions, who take their orders from up the heiarchy. since the law of one says these entities eventually turn positive at some point, i'm betting that "lucifer/satan/the devil/the original rebeller" already learned the error of his ways a long time ago & we're now on like a 50th generation 'evil overlord' or something :p. it just keeps getting passed down to the next hungriest entity. i read somewhere the old blood sacrifices (animal & human) were originally for these negative entities. the crop circles are certainly not done by negative forces because they impart knowledge for uplifting humanity. also the famous alien face crop circle(http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/alienface.html) with the decoded message shows they're giving a warning of the negative entities and 'oppose deception'. if you've been following david's work for over a year, then you should know by now that the negative entities (illuminati,alien,or otherwise) are never going to be allowed to win. they only serve a purpose but we have nothing to worry about, and in fact a lot to be hopeful & excited about since the negative hold on the planet is finally drawing to a close.

Jasper

02-11-2010, 01:21 AM

some previously unpublished photos of the wtc attack were released yesterday. check out image 7 of the 10. an anomoly is shown just off upper centre of the picture. i'll be checking on this photo on a regular basis to see if it altered.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8508817.stm

this seems to confirm other photos previously released. you will find some in this link.

http://odd.0catch.com/

LightEye

02-13-2010, 03:59 PM

dear friends,

now in mexico

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc7um4_ufo-wormhole-over-mexico-december-2_tech

and more strange things in norway

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc7la6_mysterious-blue-spiral-light-in-nor_tech

be well, be love.

david

Happystrings

02-13-2010, 07:12 PM

now this opens a few more interesting doors! from the ted conference

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18516-seti-opens-up-its-data-to-citizen-scientists.html

LightEye

02-21-2010, 10:51 AM

dear friends,

http://www.cseti.org/reports/joshuatree09.htm

be well, be love.

david

cseti expedition yields first ever photograph of an extraterrestrial

the shot was taken at joshua tree national park in california, november 17, 2009, during a cseti contact event overseen by dr. steven greer.

this photograph offers extraordinary evidence of interstellar, transdimensional technology, and the efficacy of cseti contact protocols.

click here for full set of photos and measurements

note: these photos look much clearer when viewed on a high definition computer screen or a high definition tv screen.

by
steven m. greer, m.d.
director, cseti and the disclosure project

each year since 1996, cseti has conducted an intensive training event in joshua tree national park to contact extraterrestrial civilizations. from november 15 through 21, 2009, cseti staff and a group of 40 national and international students spent six nights deep in the park, learning and practicing the contact protocols.

late the night of november 17, 2009 a series of remarkable--and historic--events transpired, including the visit of an extraterrestrial being within a few feet of the contact team, photographed by a senior team member.

The Walking Tree

02-22-2010, 04:42 AM

http://www.hulu.com/watch/128742/ngc-presents-crop-circle-mystery

hulu.com just posted this trailer for a new national geographic special on crop circles that almost seems to say exactly the kinds of things david was saying at awake and aware .

very excited and optimistic!:d

Jasper

02-23-2010, 01:30 AM

i've had a few curries, some have been 'out of this world', but was et partial to the occasional indian takeaway? looks like he would have 'beamed it up'!

http://www.archaeologydaily.com/news/201002173333/prehistoric-ufo-and-et-images-found-in-remote-cave-in-india.html

Free1

02-27-2010, 07:39 AM

hey guys

interesting video on youtube uploaded by a guy who is convinced that the 'ufo' cloud is a mothership! hmmm... not sure but am intrigued by the small objects popping in and out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ocm1192wk.

let me know what you think.

Berry Chastain

03-03-2010, 05:36 PM

i do wish i had a video to show, but i don't. i don't even own a video camera. but nevertheless, tonight i saw what to all appearances was a ufo flying over the area where i live.

i took my dog out for her last evening walk, shortly after sunset, but it was completely dark by that time. i noticed what i though at first was a very bright star where one shouldn't have been. i was almost as bright as an evening venus but about 80 degrees high in the sky. venus is only now appearing just after sunset far in the western sky.

as i watched the star began to move in a northeastern direction but not in a straight line, rather in a somewhat sin-wave pattern, very flat though. i saw nothing but a very bright blue white light, no strobes, no colored lights, like you would see on a jet or other airplane or helicopter. it moved at about the speed you would expect from a high flying jet, but moved from overhead to the northeastern sky in about 45 seconds to a minute. i expected that as it moved away the bright light would deminish and all i would see were the tail lights, but it remained a very bright blue white light, getting smaller and smaller until it disappeared about 30 degrees above the horizon.

almost immediately, i spotted a real jet, coming out of the airport in dallas, north of here i live, coming directly toward me and across. i compared the light patterns, and as soon as it was past where i was, the bright headlights disappeared and all i saw were the red and white, and strobe lights from the tail and the wings. it was totally different from the previous observation i had witnessed.

my sighting of what i think was a ufo was as if a globe of bright white light moved over and eventually disappeared. not colored lights, not strobes, no blinking lights, just a constant blue-white which got smaller and disappeared.

this is the second or perhaps third time i have seen what i believe to be a ufo. as it disappeared, i sent a prayer of thanks for the appearance and confirmation.

in love and light,
berry

jellyfish

03-04-2010, 11:15 AM

"ufo over inlet, march 02, 2010"

nice vid here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xszq_smvbp4&feature=player_embedded

evolving

03-04-2010, 07:55 PM

"ufo over inlet, march 02, 2010"

nice vid here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xszq_smvbp4&feature=player_embedded

mr. shaky cam again... does no one on earth own a tripod? or understand the concept of putting a camera on something stable like a rock, or a stump, or anything that isn't moving?

Hugh Jorgan

03-08-2010, 02:34 PM

"ufo over inlet, march 02, 2010"

nice vid here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xszq_smvbp4&feature=player_embedded

thx for sharing that vid jellyfish. gr8 post. i feel sorry for anyone who dismisses the idea of ufo's cause if vids like this aren't proof.....im scared to think wut it will take to make them believe.

j_stubler

03-08-2010, 07:40 PM

berry -- what you described sounds an aweful lot like the international space station flying over head ....

love and light

Berry Chastain

03-09-2010, 06:47 AM

does the station move in a southwest to northeast dirction? i have never tried to identify where it was or in what direction it was moving.
l&l
berry

berry -- what you described sounds an aweful lot like the international space station flying over head ....

love and light

j_stubler

03-10-2010, 10:02 AM

berry -- yes it does in fact move from southwest to northeast. it is always a spectacular sight -- especially if you catch it going over shortly after sunset and the sun still reflects off the solar panels. it maintanins it brightness as it travels overhead and then vanishes almost instantly when it crosses into the shadow of the earth. like you, i spend a lot of time looking at the skies hoping to catch a glimpse of our visitors and have yet to see any thing .... but am forever hopeful.

good day my friend

Berry Chastain

03-10-2010, 10:26 AM

that very likely was exactly what i saw. it would be my first time to see it unless what i saw last year which was in the same approximate location was also the station. thanks for that.

weboy78

03-12-2010, 02:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olt7wwasbr8
one can agree or not on the images about religion, but watch the movie

LightEye

03-12-2010, 11:51 AM

dear friends,

this is a 5 part video series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygeq9lpqw1e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6wc5ikcs5y

be well, be love.

david

for centuries, people around the world have witnessed a strange phenomenon - orbs of light hovering in the night sky. some say the lights chased after them as they drove away in their cars, and military pilots have reported spotting the lights on secret missions. many
wonder if the lights could be ghosts, or visitors from outer space. now, ngc joins the investigation and meets a team of researchers with a new theory on the origin of these strange lights.

LightEye

03-25-2010, 01:23 PM

dear friends,

you decide...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/gallery/gallery-e6frewxi-1111120310337?page=1

http://www.viewzone.com/mufon.html

be well, be love.

david

namcap01

03-30-2010, 02:17 AM

here’s a time-lapse youtube video of london city. see if you can notice anything between 0:29 to 0:31 and figure out what could it be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nby9vbmequu

love is life.

goodyear8504

03-30-2010, 10:37 AM

i didn't see anything. what am i supposed to be looking for?

transiten

03-30-2010, 12:30 PM

an extremely short glimpse of some lightphenomenon up in the air.

transiten

billybobbutterball

03-30-2010, 02:44 PM

i studied the material between 28 and 31 secs and didn't see anything sensational.
the lighting effects seemed to me more of a shuttering of the sun by wispy clouds...
-- at least the effect reminded me of that which has filtered though my venetian blinds
covering my sunset facing window as i dutifully banged away on my computer.:confused:

billybob:)

jellyfish

03-31-2010, 02:49 PM

ds37ds

03-31-2010, 11:56 PM

hey all, just wanted to report something i saw yesterday evening.

i was driving in a somewhat rural part of my area, down a dirt road, at dusk. i noticed a very bright light in the sky to my right, so i turned on the next right to check it out. really, i didn't think it was anything other than probably a plane, but i just can't help checking just in case. anyway, as i drove toward it, this light grew extremely bright and large, seemed to start flashing pinks, blues, and oranges, and i decided to pull over so i could get out of my car to watch it and listen for any engine noise to determine what it was. well, just as i am pulling over, i quickly check my rearview mirror to see if anyone was driving up behind me. when i look forward again, no more than two seconds later, the light was gone. i sat there a little stunned. where did it go? the sky was darkening, but still very much light enough to be able to see any planes, regardless of navigation lights. no plane whatsoever, and absolutely no sign of what this light was.

so, though i have no idea what i saw, it was very intriguing. even a little frustrating. i wish so bad i hadn't taken my attention off the light at just that time. if it "blinked out" or zoomed off or whatever, i so wish i would've witnessed directly. at any rate, there was no plane in the sky at that time. kinda makes me wonder....

cheers

p.s. as an aside, i notice that even though i would describe myself as a "believer" in extra terrestrial life and visitation to this planet, i still have this inherent skepticism in my mind regarding this strange sighting. i keep thinking there must be a logical, earthly explanation, but i just can't really fit what i witnessed into one. oh well, i guess i just chalk it up to a mystery!

something similar happened to me on july 9 last summer somewhere between 8.45 and 9pm just as it was starting to get dark.
my daughter and i had just left a cafe and were walking along the pavement when we saw a golden cigar shaped object flying across the sky at a high altitude and speed. i kept my eyes on it while walking and had a conversation with my daughter about what it could be etc. i knew the whole time that if i took my eyes off it, it would disappear. i'm not certain how long it was but we had walked a fair distance and at one point i sensed a crowd of people a few metres ahead of us so i had to take my eyes off the luminous object to go around them. it must have taken less than second but when i looked up again it had vanished. i asked my daughter if she could see it but she said it had disappeared. we stopped walking and looked for it in the sky but no - it was nowhere to be seen.

i can't be absolutely certain of what it actually was but something that i observed (if i remember correctly) was that the size of the object didn't change as one would expect of an object moving away or towards you. the size remained constant from the time that i initially saw it until it had moved further away into the distance where you would expect it to appear smaller.

weboy78

04-02-2010, 12:27 AM

antonio urzi in mexico
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka4mvsfyvqq

JoshERTW

04-02-2010, 06:13 AM

i see what you're referring to but to me it looks like the light of the setting sun reflecting off the clouds

annab

04-08-2010, 05:50 AM

dear friends,

this was recorded over york, england last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hauyciive6g

kind regards
anna

have just checked star charts - pretty sure it is sirius

Wade Krueger

04-08-2010, 03:59 PM

from my understanding, the flickering is due to pollution in the atmosphere and the light reflects off the pollutants in the atmosphere causing this flicker effect.

joshwaycaster

04-16-2010, 03:57 PM

i was paying attention to this flickering star, and noticed a very distinct flash of light nearby(an inch away from my perspective on the ground) and immediately in split seconds i presumed..."airplane....must be the flash of an airplane", but it never reappeared.... i saw it very clearly, it was no shooting star, it was a bright flash about 3-4 times larger than the star.

JoshERTW

04-21-2010, 05:11 PM

history channel has started a new series called ancient aliens.

i recall seeing a one-off special of the same title a few months back, but this is an actual series, not sure how many episodes theres going to be at the moment. they seem to be open to letting some of this research (graham hancock is in the first episode being interviewed, amongst others) start to enter the public conciousness, prepping us for disclosure perhaps? i thought this when i saw the special, but now that its a series... a sign of the times perhaps. check it out, my wife is a huge skeptic and within the first 5 minutes she was intrigued enough to keep watching. "what? they built a scale model of that egyptian relic and it was able to fly???"

Quitomjinn

04-22-2010, 08:47 AM

they also did a segment on the " mana machine" that was riveting showing footage of somebody's version and a facilaty making algea very interesting!!!!

Gort

04-22-2010, 10:59 AM

i am sorry! i should have posted this earlier.

this was the e-mail i got from giorgio :)

dear legendary times magazine readers, friends, colleagues and alien
hunters - -

we did it. this time, we really did it!

i don't even know where to begin, so i'll just make it very short and
very sweet:

due to the success of ancient aliens (2009), the show was picked up
by the history channel for a series!

it is with great pride that i announce to you:

ancient aliens: the series premieres on the history channel on
tuesday, april 20, 2010 at 8pm with episode i: the evidence!

in total, there will be 5 two-hour episodes and i once again had the
privilege to serve as the show's consulting producer.

here are the tentative air dates, so set your dvr today!

tuesday, april 20, 2010, 8pm - episode i: the evidence
tuesday, april 27, 2010, 8pm - episode ii: the visitors
tuesday, may 04, 2010, 8pm - episode iii: the mission
tuesday, may 11, 2010, 8pm - episode iv: closer encounters
tuesday, may 25, 2010, 8pm - episode v: the return

please check your local listings for the history channel just to be
safe regarding the air times.

join erich von daniken, giorgio a. tsoukalos, david h. childress,
buzz aldrin, robert bauval, peter fiebag, dr. algund eenboom, graham
hancock, dr. luis navia, rev. barry downing, dr. gerhard apel, rodney
dale, and many others, on an adventure around the world and into the
cosmos!

you thought the original ancient aliens was good? well, strap
yourself in, you're going for a ride...!

the series will knock your socks off... you'll be in for a treat. set
your dvrs!

(feel free to forward this message to your friends, lists, family and
colleagues!)

love and handstands!

giorgio

jellyfish

04-23-2010, 08:37 AM

this one's very clear and very beautiful. enjoy :d

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hmsmph4z4m

Felicatra

04-23-2010, 11:23 PM

i saw one the massive black triangles that many people speak of... it was about 1995, give or take. i lived near the radford arsenal at the time.

i came home from skateboarding at v tech that day.. i remember it so clearly. my friend joe ripped his pants skating and was using his board to cover the embarrassing hole in his shorts. i "jumped" a set of steps at dietrieck hall and broke my board that day...

on the way back.. while listening to the group ministry in joe's camaro, which was built for car sound *i'm an audiophile..even at that age*, i saw two lights in the sky at a distance.

i paid no attention cause one was a planet and the other was a satellite. no big.

upon further 'travellage' i noticed that one of the bright points of light in the sky had changed position. i freaked.... after a brief period of incoherent verbage.. joe was able to pick out that; omg that thing is either close to the ground or moving!!!.

as it turns out.. it was both. and i can't say this literally enough.. we actually drove underneath this *sorry for caps* massive black triangle!!!...

there were lights at each end..and as time memory escapes me..i think i remember a fourth light *my mind makes it red* in the middle of the craft.

no noise... no dust.. no reason for it to not considering it was rediculously close to the ground. since i have no gauge for distance on something like this..i'd assume it was 300 to 400 feet above???

i almost jumped out of the car to follow it on foot.. when i realized that might be a good idea. * i was about a quarter mile from home*

it moved very slowly..as if surveying.

so fast forward about six months.. i see the exact craft on this show about a russian ufo and damnit...it was the same thing. fast forward about 8 years..and i see the same thing on belgian pictures.

i'm stunned. this happened to other people. then i hear john lear tell me they're made in lockheade....then i hear david tell me they're balloons basically..and they're easy to shoot down.

i've heard this theory before, that they're dirigibles. i refused it, cause come on... that size..a balloon?

looks like i have some logic work ahead of me../sigh

Deambor

04-25-2010, 03:14 PM

wow, this is pretty major. i didn't expect this from stephen hawking. he thinks aliens are just like us, meaning, conquistadors coming to the new world in search of more resources.

aliens are out there... and we need to stop trying to talk to them.

that's the advice of famed physicist stephen hawking.

"we only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet," the award-winning british scientist said in a series for the discovery channel, "into the universe with stephen hawking."

to drive the point home, hawking argued that aliens visiting earth would likely be the same as when explorers first arrived in the new world.

"if aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when columbus landed in america, which didn't turn out well for the native americans," he said.

if aliens in space ships did come to earth, hawking suggests, they may be more "v" than "e.t."

"such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonize whatever planets they can reach," he said, arguing that they may have taken to the stars because they depleted resources on their home world.

however, if humans were to encounter aliens, hawking believes they would likely be animals or even just microbes.

the discovery series, which begins airing tonight, will address issues such as space exploration, alien life, as well as time travel.

"into the universe" took three years to complete, and was spearheaded by hawking, who suffers from neuro-muscular dystrophy.

read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2010/04/25/2010-04-25_contact_with_aliens_could_gets_us_killed_says_s tephen_hawking_in_discoverys_into.html#ixzz0m9veuu u2

jellyfish

04-26-2010, 12:34 AM

i'm stunned. this happened to other people. then i hear john lear tell me they're made in lockheade....then i hear david tell me they're balloons basically..and they're easy to shoot down.

i've heard this theory before, that they're dirigibles. i refused it, cause come on... that size..a balloon?

looks like i have some logic work ahead of me../sigh

i think what david was saying were balloons were these big muthas here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ramemvsz8l8

and here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60m8m0pazri&feature=related

these aren't the flat, triangular shaped things people see all over the place, but big, four sided floating black pyramids.

hope that clears that up :)

Berry Chastain

04-26-2010, 06:03 AM

stephen hawking is all wet! if what he says were true, it would have happened a long time ago, millenia in fact. the earth has been being visited by extraterrestrial intellegences since humanity first appeared on the earth. in fact according to some we are here because of the space visitors. so though i respect hawking, in this case i reject what he is saying, as if my rejection was important.
l&l
berry

wow, this is pretty major. i didn't expect this from stephen hawking. he thinks aliens are just like us, meaning, conquistadors coming to the new world in search of more resources.

aliens are out there... and we need to stop trying to talk to them.

that's the advice of famed physicist stephen hawking.

"we only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet," the award-winning british scientist said in a series for the discovery channel, "into the universe with stephen hawking."

to drive the point home, hawking argued that aliens visiting earth would likely be the same as when explorers first arrived in the new world.

"if aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when columbus landed in america, which didn't turn out well for the native americans," he said.

if aliens in space ships did come to earth, hawking suggests, they may be more "v" than "e.t."

"such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonize whatever planets they can reach," he said, arguing that they may have taken to the stars because they depleted resources on their home world.

however, if humans were to encounter aliens, hawking believes they would likely be animals or even just microbes.

the discovery series, which begins airing tonight, will address issues such as space exploration, alien life, as well as time travel.

"into the universe" took three years to complete, and was spearheaded by hawking, who suffers from neuro-muscular dystrophy.

read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2010/04/25/2010-04-25_contact_with_aliens_could_gets_us_killed_says_s tephen_hawking_in_discoverys_into.html#ixzz0m9veuu u2

goodyear8504

04-26-2010, 11:19 AM

unfortunately, i don't think hawking has put enough thought into his arguments. to compare mastering intergalactic space travel to building a big, wooden ship and sailing across the atlantic seems pretty unfair to me. beings evolved enough to visit earth would almost certainly have evolved to the point where violence has become completely pointless, otherwise they'd have probably all killed each other before reaching that particular technological state

also, why would evil alien invaders need to come take over the earth? the universe has an abundance of resources. besides, ets don't need to steal our oil and coal to power their ships, are most likely not as shallow as most of us so don't need an abundance of diamonds/precious stones/gold to make themselves feel good, and do not need to feast on our souls. what possible reasons could they have for invading earth?

just as a side note, i thought it was a little naive for hawking to presume that in order for these highly advanced technological beings to know that we're here, they'd have to first pick up some radio signals we sent out in their direction of space. they most likely knew we were here before we even realized it ourselves.

seeking

04-27-2010, 07:54 AM

when i first heard about what hawking said, i immediately thought "fear porn." i think i've read on this site somewhere about how when disclosure finally happens, the powers that be are going to try and make it out to be really frightening and threatening. perhaps they know that it can't be much longer until disclosure so they quote a highly respected scientist like hawking to try and get us all scared before it happens? i dunno, just my two cents. doesn't seem too far-fetched though.

Deambor

04-27-2010, 09:38 AM

i wouldn't say it was "fear porn". it was more like a scientific speculation, extrapolation of our own progress onto the potential events. what makes it a fear based scenario is the denial of the possibility of existence of a benevolent civilization. the premise that all life is like us: survival based, fighting over the limited resources, expanding.
in other words, 3d view of the world as we know it.

Alnakl

04-27-2010, 09:56 AM

the fact that hawking has endorsed likelyhood of et existance has made alot of people sit up and take notice. if obama's not going to do it who else could be credible enough?

check out youtube, "hellozeworld.com" - dr steven greer warned us if they didn't get their finger out he would make it happen.

Deambor

05-05-2010, 12:18 PM

from bbc news:

kirsan ilyumzhinov, the leader of the southern region of kalymkia, made his claim in a television interview.

mp andre lebedev is not just asking whether mr ilyumzhinov is fit to govern.

he is also concerned that, if he was abducted, he may have revealed details about his job and state secrets.

the mp has written a letter to mr medvedev raising a list of his concerns.

in his letter he says that - assuming the whole thing was not just a bad joke - it was an historic event and should have been reported to the kremlin.

he also asks if there are official guidelines for what government officials should do if contacted by aliens, especially if those officials have access to state secrets.

mr ilyumzhinov said in an interview on primetime television that he had been taken on board an alien spaceship which had come to planet earth to take samples - and claims to have several witnesses.

he has been president of kalmykia, a small buddhist region of russia which lies on the shores of the caspian sea, for 17 years.

the millionaire former businessman has a reputation as an eccentric character.

as president of the world chess federation, he has spent tens of millions of dollars turning the impoverished republic into a mecca for chess players - building an entire village to host international tournaments.

LightEye

05-07-2010, 03:31 PM

dear friends,

why is it that when such things are made present to us and that we don't understand that we don't do our utmost to find out what they are?

it's beyond reason...even when it happens over and over again...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd6vts_ufo-sphere-mexico_news

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd6vxn_ufo-sphere-mexico2_news

be well, be love.

david

LightEye

05-08-2010, 02:49 PM

dear friends,

couldn't be anything else... ;-)

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/45047/ufo___swarms/

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/45052/ufo___swarms_ii/

be well, be love.

david

Heddwch

05-09-2010, 12:53 PM

a couple of thoughts on ufo's, et's and hawking.

hawking has been a schoolboy hero for many for a very long time. however in my mind he has just gone and shown us all who's pay roll he is on. first he makes the statement yes there must be other life forms but they aren't here it's not possible. (shame on you hawking)! then he comes out with a statement saying we could be in danger to aggressive et's. oh really? you mean the ones that can't get here right?

we have to take a couple of things into consideration where ufo's are concerned. first we have been back engineering the things for at least (emphasis there, lots of it). 50 years. 2nd we have been doing it with guidance and advice from the beings the ships belong to. just think about what advances we have made that we are aware of over the last 50 years or so.

yes we are building the things, yes we have a grasp on the technology involved and yes we are up there flying them. so a sighting, photo or video tape proves very little other than the very fact yes it's unidentified.

of course et's are here, they have been for millions of years. of course they are watching intently and helping in any and every way they can to get us into our imminent and incredibly beautiful future. that's why there's so many of them here.

danger, yes i'm sure there are negative beings out there, i'm sure there are a few right here. but we have a lot, a hell of a lot of very positive energy sitting right on our doorstep and i have no doubt, not even for 1 second that they are in whatever way is required protecting us.

to a very large number of life forms out there we are a baby. for all we know even the negative beings may be spiritually evolved enough to recognise us as a baby and want nothing more than to pick us up and nurture us.

there is love and light all around us, even in the most unsuspecting places. embrace it, share it round and stop worrying about et threat, it's not real!

Alnakl

05-09-2010, 02:41 PM

until we get physical contact we are doing nothing other than to foster another belief. god help us if we are wrong.

my intuition say's we are right and it's the first time i've thought i'm going to die for this.

strangely enough i now think my physical body is becoming a burden to me. i believe we have a job to do and we must get planning. there are alot of souls out there that need reasurance while we go through the process.

did i just write that.

have i lost it

vote now

Gort

05-11-2010, 05:24 AM

i just finished reading

firestorm
dr james e. mcdonald's fight for ufo science.

this is a must read for anyone who researches ufos.

after reading this book, you get a very clear sense of how scientists have been shut down or out, when it comes to this subject. it also provides some very good areas to explore in terms of propulsion and other scientific problems he was working on in determining how ufos operated.

LightEye

05-13-2010, 11:48 AM

dear friends,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrk2ygfjnho

be well, be love.

david

transcript - hon. henry mcelroy, jr.:

my name is henry mcelroy, jr. a retiring, former state representative from new hampshire. thank you for your attention to this brief message concerning the world’s interaction with both earth-based, and off-world astronauts.

the reason i am making this announcement is in the hopes of encouraging better perspective to all who explore the universe. therefore, as a result, making a more valuable contribution to humanity, for the benefit of all faiths, all races and all nations.

i would like to submit to our nation my personal testimony of one document related to one of these ongoing topics which i saw while in office, serving on the state federal relations and veterans affairs committee.

the document i saw was an official brief to president eisenhower. to the best of my memory this brief was pervaded with a sense of hope, and it informed president eisenhower of the continued presence of extraterrestrial beings here in the united states of america.

the brief seemed to indicate that a meeting between the president and some of these visitors could be arranged as appropriate if desired.

the tone of the brief indicated to me that there was no need for concern, since these visitors were in no way, causing any harm, or had any intentions, whatsoever, of causing any disruption then, or in the future.

while i can’t verify the times or places or that any meeting or meetings occurred directly between eisenhower and these visitors – - because of his optimism in his farewell address in 1961, i personally believe that eisenhower did, indeed, meet with these extraterrestrial, off world astronauts.

i hope my personal testimony will aid the nation in its quest for continued enlightenment. i am honored to follow in the footsteps of those who have come forward with their personal testimonies – those who deserve the admiration of the american people for sharing their accounts publicly, in an effort to elevate our knowledge to a higher understanding of our existence.

and, i’d also like to authorize distribution of this video for anyone who wants to use it for educational purposes.

thank you.

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LightEye

05-13-2010, 02:51 PM

dear friends,

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/wacky/have-aliens-hijacked-voyager-2-spacecraft/story-e6frev20-1225865566982

be well, be love.

david

have aliens hijacked voyager 2 spacecraft

* from: the daily telegraph
* may 12, 2010 2:35pm

it left earth 33 years ago, now it's claimed the voyager 2 spacecraft may have been hijacked by aliens after sending back data messages nasa scientists can't decode.

nasa installed a 12-inch disk containing music and greetings in 55 languages in case intelligent extraterrestrial life ever found it.

but now the spacecraft is sending back what sounds like an answer: signals in an unknown data format!

the best scientific minds have so far not been able to decipher the strange information – is it a secret message?

alien expert hartwig hausdorf said:"it seems almost as if someone had reprogrammed or hijacked the probe – thus perhaps we do not yet know the whole truth" read more in bild

evolving

05-15-2010, 11:25 PM

large orbs near the moon in april

part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adigi3a3rqw) a single ship

part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkmk_jgzjhm) more

as the author asks, do we own anything in space 60 to 80,000 feet (20 to 25,000 metres) across?

astraya

05-23-2010, 03:10 PM

http://www.theweatherspace.com/news/05-22-2010-ufo-spiral-in-the-sky-seen-and-heard-across-western-canada.html

"ufo spiral in the sky seen and heard across western canada

the norway spiral comes to mind when theweatherspace.com received photographs and even an amazing video of the event. an object swooped down from the sky and then returned in a brilliant display on friday night across the western canada areas.

three different photographers have given their photos to theweatherspace.com in what looks like something out of a science fiction movie. we cannot see what would cause this one earth. the norway spiral was said to be caused by a missile launch in the russian territory. but what is this?

the only known areas to launch on the western coast are the vandenberg air force base and alaskan areas. vandenberg confirms no launches and kodiak island has to be ruled out due to the direction of travel (from the west).

the photographs show a very similar shape and mysterious object off the coast of canada. the object is not a missile as one photograph from the beach has the trajectory curving up! what is it?

a video was sent to theweatherspace.com and the web team has added it to the video server on youtube.com. the video shows the entire sequence of this object as filmed by steven murray.

'i have four sky cameras to catch meteors on and number three caught it', murray said. 'i saw it from my office while doing work. the object was on the monitor. by the time i rushed outside the object was gone but the loudest boom i ever heard from a distance struck shortly after.'"

MarkM

05-23-2010, 04:27 PM

the video looks very suspiciously like computer generated graphics, yet also suspiciously incongruent with the photos. the footage taken from the plane is totally still-frame, and if post produced with image stabilization technology, i'd expect the original footage to be available, if real.

possibly, many will view the video and decide this event is a hoax. one sometimes wonders if someone has compiled a whole computer folder of faked vids, hoping to release them at times of true mystery, in order to muddy the waters... ;) mark

jellyfish

05-23-2010, 10:05 PM

mark i thought the same thing, haha.

cool looking, but very obviously cgi, and the video from the plane removes any doubt. now the photos could be another story, but i'm betting hoax on this one.

divine_zigge

05-25-2010, 12:05 PM

weboy78

05-27-2010, 05:27 AM

others video from urzi (italy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47n0znbihss

it's about "vacuum domain"?

LightEye

05-27-2010, 10:22 AM

dear friends,

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdglwp_new-western-canada-spiral-ufo-2010_tech

be well, be love.

david

western canada spiral ufo 2010 100% proof was not a hoax after all. the original clip was created as a hoax to an actual event that occured on friday , but the poster did not have a video to support the event and made his own version.

this video is of the actual event and is the only known video to exist. the story behind the ufo is that an unkown craft was spiraling through the sky in more of a "jig jag" formation, as if it was in distress, before eventually spiraling at the end and then supersonically dissapearing vertically into space with a super sonic boom. this clip was taken by a resident who witnessed the incident. he states " it happened so fast, i just stood there with my mouth wide open in utter amazement". he quickly ran into the house to grab his video camera to capture the glowing, colorful, radiant trail the craft left in its path. the after effect lingered on for several minutes, then dissapated into the pitch black sky. you can hear him talking to his neighbor,

MarkM

05-30-2010, 04:55 PM

moderator note - the discussion regarding the videotaped orb/light phenomenon has been moved to the 'hundreds of tiny lights in the sky' thread in general discussions. mark

LightEye

05-31-2010, 12:59 AM

dear friends,

another ring...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hvxju0f9go&feature=player_embedded

be well, be love.

david

WithWings

06-04-2010, 11:19 PM

it's all over our news...

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/7349977/ufo-spotted-over-eastern-australia/

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/1064435/ufos-seen-zooming-over-eastern-australia

these are just two of the local news sites in australia covering the news...

i hope david finds out about this!!

i'd love to know what he thinks about it....

in service xx

Foghorn

06-08-2010, 09:18 PM

follow-up to david wilcox article today concerning above story.

the link below has videos of stanton friedman's talk at the
ufo congress as well as others.

http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/stanton-friedman-a-scientist-searches-for-the-truth-of-ufos/19503350

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/06/08/vast-ufo-coverup-stanton-friedman/?test=latestnews

weboy78

06-18-2010, 11:30 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/nyregion/10alone.html
origin of the species, from an alien view
if you’re going to ask zecharia sitchin, be ready for a “planet of the apes” scenario: spaceships and hieroglyphics, genetic mutations and mutinous space aliens in gold mines...

Happystrings

06-22-2010, 11:03 PM

from today's aol news:
http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/eu-lawmaker-mario-borghezio-calls-for-end-to-ufo-secrecy/19526367?icid=main|htmlws-sb-n|dl1|link6|http%3a%2f%2fwww.aolnews.com%2fweird-news%2farticle%2feu-lawmaker-mario-borghezio-calls-for-end-to-ufo-secrecy%2f19526367

erab

06-23-2010, 10:53 AM

http://www.snagfilms.com/films/watch/top_10_ufo_sightings/

faithinchange

07-04-2010, 09:04 AM

almost a week ago i went outside and saw a really bright star i'd never seen before.
i was reminded of a starfish... i was mesmerized by its white and blue rays
everything else within my vision dropped back and formed a tunnel around the star... not as dramatic as you think... but this is the feeling i got
i stared at the center and it looked like it was shimmering(constantly moving) and heating up
i believe i might have been receiving something from it because i got these really weird feelings and the tree's in my vision started moving left to right. the center of the star went from red to orange to gold/white.
it felt like i was vibrating out of my body- there was this heavy feeling of detachment... it was kind of overwhelming so i went inside for a little
when i came back out it was gone

could this have been a ufo? :confused:

thx :)

Breedtracer

07-04-2010, 10:51 AM

faithinchance i would def consider it a ufo encounter. from the description you gave it seems like they kind of made contact with you. i've had situations b4 where i've seen ufos up high showing a blueish white light that would turn to a greenish color as well. it would clearly not be human because i would see planes going by that are clearly planes, and that light would look nothing like a plane so it quickly got rid of the notion in my head that it was a plane.

Free1

07-04-2010, 11:46 AM

hi everyone- i have posted a link to a vid on youtube re 'star like ufo over berlin'. this is amazing footage... when i watched for the first time something told me to stop and start the counter in order to freeze frame- well... there are tons of images in it! like greys;weird aliens;humans; animals; the list goes on! i was amazed by it and wrote to the owner of video but no reply. can't make out if it's very clever cgi or project bluebeam technology or a genuine ufo beaming subliminal images to us in order to prepare us for disclosure! i felt very excited by it when i first saw it and also slightly weird!

please watch it and let me know what you all think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga_6zvasm0w&playnext_from=tl&videos=1emwzxv2m1i

Foghorn

07-04-2010, 06:46 PM

free 1

here is the same video, re-edited by humecta1 --- who froze various frames, and this is
what he reports:
weisskopfseeadler3 filmed very important video in berlin's sky.this is important information to human. watch new energy-information about human race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0pwgv4rbze&feature=related

someone smarter than me needs to have a go at figuring it out.

faithinchange

07-04-2010, 06:51 PM

@ breedtracer ty

@ free1 wow that looks awesome!

Chris Hamilton

07-05-2010, 12:14 PM

hello group,

i did some research on weiskopseeadler3 who originally posted the you-tube pictures. i looked at his user on you tube and researched from there. you may not agree with my conclusions, but everyone is entitled to their own beliefs here, so this is what i found with minimal sleuthing.

the word weiskopseeadler first of all is german for sea eagle heads, which i found very interesting seeing that bio pic on his youtube user is the picture of a sea-eagle head;) i went back and googled weiskopseeadler 3 again and found a sight with eagle pictures. to the right of the pics was a little about the person who took those pictures. his name is rudiger hirsemann and he lives in germany. i am deducting from this that our youtube publisher is one and the same. he seems to have published a similar video in sept 09, but it was quickly identified as a smudgy picture of jupiter. so, my conclusion is that this newest youtube is simply a photographer's pictures of some sky phenomenon he has manipulated to get people interested enough to buy them. just my opinion, but photographer's know how to create this stuff. chris

Free1

07-05-2010, 04:17 PM

hmmmm?????? chris... i followed your trail and saw the eagle pics. but what i'm confused about is you suggest that it is some photo manipulation in order to get people to buy them. how is this man trying to sell anything? he's just uploaded a video on youtube. but what i find slightly strange is that he has not bothered to reply to my message about it. if it was a genuine ufo phenomenon then surely he would be excited to share it and to discuss people's reactions about it? anyway- who knows? thanks for posting everyone!

Happystrings

07-05-2010, 04:38 PM

thanks, chris!

"trust, but verify" ronald regan ;)

Chris Hamilton

07-05-2010, 06:38 PM

if it was a genuine ufo phenomenon then surely he would be excited to share it and to discuss people's reactions about it? anyway- who knows? thanks for posting everyone!

precisely;) i was thinking of sending him a message at his site, but he is a hard one to get to....i would just assume that if he doesn't offer an explanation, that my theory is correct. you know, artists can publish their works for years and years, but without special recognition, they are just artists and don't make any money. i think he is just bringing attention to himself this way through his you tube site....nothing wrong with that, but he should be honest on what he is sending, is all i have to say. geez, don't let people speculate and speculate. not nice for those people who want to believe. maybe a little sto too from my perspective.

i just don't want any of us to be deceived with this stuff, so i respond when i think a link doesn't quite ring true is all. it's because i want all of us here to be able to strip away any deception in 3d, and see what people are doing to us. it's just because i care about all of you here on dc forum and want you all to be able to see earthly reality and mold it with the spirituality we have here. hope i haven't said too much:confused: chris

Foghorn

07-05-2010, 08:14 PM

i think you nailed and appreciate your research efforts.

there were two things that raised doubt the first time i watched it. therefore, i looked further and found the re-edit clip made by another person.

1. there was no (building/tree/etc.) reference to the sky whatsoever from the area where
the filming took place.

2. the unusual intermittent weird sound coming from below the camera did not
correlate to the noise of vehicle traffic - which was also lower. it made me think he was
filming indoors on a black surface with audio props.

many thanks for digging deeper.;)

LightEye

07-09-2010, 02:55 PM

dear friends,

i rarely post ufo videos here now because of the 2 video rule, but take a look at these;

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdz6az_ovnis-a-travers-le-monde_tech

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdz3ag_ovni-dijon-08-07-2010_news

be well, be love.

david

Scopetek

07-11-2010, 07:27 PM

i got news that there was a ufo sighting at busch gardens, va in the direction of washington d.c.

i wonder if obama saw it?

mkatwanderer

07-15-2010, 11:14 PM

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93848?fp=1

please tell me what you think of this. i wonder if this relates to what david was talking about with regards to disclosure.

Pien

07-16-2010, 10:22 AM

hello,

watch this links ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxphoiprevy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=han223d-k3e

love,
pien:)

Technus

07-17-2010, 04:53 PM

Cotton

07-17-2010, 11:54 PM

hey, did anyone check this out yet, apparently the airport had to shutdown in china because of this ufo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynszljc8igs

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/offbeat/071610-ufo-china

:eek:

i saw a video a few days ago which was much closer to the ufo. i mean very close, you can make it out in detail. i'll try to find the video.

Cotton

07-17-2010, 11:58 PM

hey, did anyone check this out yet, apparently the airport had to shutdown in china because of this ufo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynszljc8igs

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/offbeat/071610-ufo-china

:eek:

sorry for the double post but my last one hasn't been approved yet, here is an abc news video, of all places, which has stills of the ufo in very high detail.

http://abcnews.go.com/international/video/ufo-over-chinese-airport-prompts-probe-11172511

Cotton

07-20-2010, 08:45 PM

sorry for the double post but my last one hasn't been approved yet, here is an abc news video, of all places, which has stills of the ufo in very high detail.

http://abcnews.go.com/international/video/ufo-over-chinese-airport-prompts-probe-11172511

haha, the "official" stance is now that it was a missile, lol. that's one funky looking missile. :rolleyes:

Deambor

08-05-2010, 04:04 AM

from bbc news site:

the government took the threat of ufos so seriously in the 1950s that uk intelligence chiefs met to discuss the issue, newly-released files show.

ministers even went on to commission weekly reports on ufo sightings from a committee of intelligence experts.

the papers also include a wartime account claiming prime minister winston churchill ordered a ufo sighting be kept secret to prevent "mass panic".

the files show reports of ufos peaked in 1996 - when the x files was popular.

the joint intelligence committee is better known for providing briefings to the government on matters relating to security, defence and foreign affairs.

but the latest batch of ufo files released from the ministry of defence to the national archives shows that, in 1957, the committee received reports detailing an average of one ufo sighting a week.

the files also include an account of a wartime meeting attended by winston churchill in which, it is claimed, the prime minister was so concerned about a reported encounter between a ufo and raf bombers, that he ordered it be kept secret for at least 50 years to prevent "mass panic".

x files

nick pope, who used to investigate ufo sightings for the mod, said: "the interesting thing is that most of the ufo files from that period have been destroyed.

"but what happened is that a scientist whose grandfather was one of his [churchill's] bodyguards, said look, churchill and eisenhower got together to cover up this phenomenal ufo sighting, that was witnessed by an raf crew on their way back from a bombing raid.

"the reason apparently was because churchill believed it would cause mass panic and it would shatter people's religious views."

reports of sightings of ufos peaked in 1996 in the uk - when science fiction drama the x files was popular.

according to the files, there were more than 600 reports in 1996, compared with an average of 240 in the previous five years.

continue reading the main story
“
start quote
ufos have become the third-most popular subject for people to write to the ministry of defence saying please could you release this file”
end quote
dr david clarke

national archives ufo consultant
the figures for 1996 show 609 reported sightings of unidentified flying objects, 343 letters from the public to the mod's ufo desk and 22 enquiries and questions from mps.

but by 2009, the mod's ufo inquiry desk -sec(as)2 - had been closed down.

the 18 files released on thursday are the latest to come out as part of a three-year project between the mod and the national archives.

dr david clarke, a ufo consultant to the national archives, explained why the papers are being made public now.

dr clarke told the bbc: "since the freedom of information act arrived in 2005, this subject - ufos - have become the third-most popular subject for people to write to the ministry of defence saying 'please could you release this file, or papers that you hold on this particular case'.

"what they've decided to do is to be totally open and to say, 'look we're not holding any secrets back about this subject we've got all these files and we're going to make them available to the public'."

one includes details on "aerial phenomena" prepared for a meeting of the cabinet office's joint intelligence committee in april 1957.

according to a note included in the red book, the weekly intelligence survey, four incidents involving ufos tracked by raf radars were "unexplained".

'spaceman'

the documents also include reports of a famous incident dubbed the "welsh roswell" in 1974, where members of the public reported seeing lights in the sky and feeling a tremor in the ground.

other cases included in the files are:

a near-miss with an "unidentified object" reported by the captain and first officer of a 737 plane approaching manchester airport in 1995.
a mountain rescue team called to investigate a "crashed ufo" in the berwyn mountains in wales in 1974.
attempted break-ins at raf rudloe manor in wiltshire - sometimes referred to as britain's "area 51" - the us's secretive desert military base.
the western isles incident, when a loud explosion was reported in the sky over the atlantic in the outer hebrides.
the 14-minutes of "missing" film relating to the blue streak missile test launch in 1964, believed by some to show a "spaceman".
a gambler from leeds who held a 100-1 bet on alien life being discovered before the end of the 20th century, and who approached the government for evidence to support his claim after the bookmakers refused to pay out. the mod said it was open-minded about extra-terrestrial life but had no evidence of its existence.
the files come from more than 5,000 pages of ufo reports and letters and drawings from members of the public, as well as questions raised by mps in parliament.

caper9

08-06-2010, 01:35 PM

about a month ago i finally saw my first ufo, and the story is one i probably wouldn't believe had it not happened to me.

i was sitting in my backyard one night watching the stars and thinking about what ra had said in the law of one books about ufos being legitimate, and i said out loud that i believed that they were real and they were not hostile, but i wanted them to show themselves to me to prove beyond a doubt that they were there and they were protecting us. after about 30 minutes i saw nothing unusual and went back inside.

well, the very next day my son and i were playing catch in the exact same spot when he looked up and said "daddy, what the heck is that?". i looked up and a cylindrical object was sailing silently over our house. it was definitely not any type of aircraft i have ever seen, and i immediately recalled my request from the night before and i realized that they had just given me the proof i had asked to see. i don't believe in coincidences, so i really think this was a "confederation" craft (for those of you who have read the law of one series). for it to happen not even 24 hours after looking to the sky and asking for them to show themselves to me, it can't be just coincidence. i can now say with certainty that they are up there, and they are apparently listening.

armithel

08-09-2010, 01:30 AM

well i figured i may as well join the crew of stories, since i feel that the lack of stories is a bit unsatisfying...
one night about 2 weeks ago i was getting off work in nw ohio at about midnight where the heat had dissipated into the night and the moon was at about a morning sun 10am position (not quite sure, im never awake at this point in time to see the sun grow up), and was luna was in full. the wind was absent and the clouds had descended onto the ground and it was soooo quite and peacefull...i actually pulled my jeep over while i was driving home, turned on the ambient radio statio (it was a sunday night i remember because they only play ambient on sunday nights, other than that its jazz or classical) (91.3fm for those that are interested in my area), and sat quietly on the country road that still was warm and just enjoyed the night...well after about 10minutes of sitting there the bugs got to me so i climbed on top of my jeep and sat on the roof and tried to accept that now feeling you get when you just like to feel alive in the now...and by about the time i was getting bored, i looked to the west and i noticed a light that appeared to be moving very slowly at a fixed projection on the x axis...the light glimmered slightly (i couldnt see any forms of flickering plane lights that seem to have blue and red blinkies, but of course, i couldve been at an awkward angle which prevented me from seeing that). the liht shined my direction and then turned back all while it kept moving in a northward direction. then about 2 seconds after i witnessed it come into sight and then disappear again, i saw another almost identical, except slightly less bright do the same thing....it came into sight at the same place as the first, and you could see the direction the light peering at shift, and then turn back and then dissappear again. then the bulb of light disappeared like the first. i could be just seeing things because this is ohio, and nothing happens here besides a clear view at shooting stars.
:(

taeko

08-18-2010, 06:54 AM

i saw them once on day light a whole buch of them, bright orange with a blue aura. i was so happy and shocked that i wanted to yell ''look!! they are here '' !! but i could not speak. and the strange thing was, is that i was the only one that saw it.

Jet777

08-18-2010, 07:47 AM

i remember not thinking too much of ufos until me and some friends saw an undeniable ufo flyover one night. back in '93 or '94 i was in highschool in k'zoo michigan. a few friends and i were sledding down a big hill by the local college and all of a sudden we looked up into the sky and there was a huge, long, cigar shaped craft floating silent over the city. it was moving very slow and there were three lights shining on the side of it and blinking in a pattern. as we were watching this there were cars at the street at the bottom of the hill stopping in traffic with people getting out to watch this thing fly over. then two other "lights" came flying up to it at incredible speed and just stopped beside this thing while if slowly floated over. we watched it move away toward the next town before we lost interest and just went home - but it was definitely not of this world. nothing that big could fly so slow but still keep itself in the air without massive jets that we would have heard - but this thing was dead silent.

i remember waking up the next morning and my dad asking me if i had heard about the ufo that flew over the night before. apparently, it had been written up in the gazette and several people with a military background were quoted in the article as saying they had not seen anything like it before. i never saw anything like it since.

jesse

sirlep33

08-18-2010, 08:28 AM

antonio huneeus | aug 16, 2010

a new french report released on may 31, 2010 concluded that ufos are definitely real and possibly of extraterrestrial origin. while not an official government study, the progress report of the sigma/3af commission comes from a highly credible source, the aeronautical & astronomical association of france, known as the 3af, which established a commission on unidentified aerial phenomena back in may 2008. the commission’s president is alain boudier, a former french defense attaché, and one of its key members is jean-gabriel greslé, a former fighter pilot who studied at the u.s. air force academy and later became an airliner pilot with air france, where he experienced a couple of ufo sightings.

members of the sigma/3af commission also met representatives of many other official french military and intelligence organizations that had some ufo involvement in the past. these included the national gendarmerie, which has collected ufo reports systematically since the 1960s; the general secretariat of national defense, which issued an interesting report a few years ago from the air force; and one of france’s intelligence services, the general directorate for external security, which admitted through an “authorized source” that ufos have been monitored by the agency since the early sixties.

the section on “the most significant french cases” provides a very short description of five incidents: a massive multiple-witness sighting in madagascar in 1954; the famous landing and close encounter of the third kind in valensole in 1965, which was documented by the gendarmerie; the equally famous landing case in trans-en-provence in 1981, and another similar one in nancy in 1982 known as “amaranth,” both of which were investigated by gepan and published respectively in their technical notes nº 16 and nº 17. the last case is a multiple-witness sighting seen in a diagonal between biarritz and strasbourg across france in november 1990.

a real and non-terrestrial phenomenon

in the comments section, the sigma/3af report uses unambiguous language, for instance: “no natural phenomenon can account for the majority of observation reports accompanied by electromagnetic detections made by one or several radars. both the defense services and air traffic control have been confronted a number of times around the world with unknown aerial intrusions or artificially induced phenomena.” later on, the report goes on to say, “the behavior of these devices during encounters with fighter jets or interceptors – some have participated in real swirling battles in the u.s. – suggests they are controlled, guided or led by particularly sophisticated automation.” and then again, “the air superiority of the craft concerned, if they are indeed crafts, is such that none of the many interceptions which have been made against them, in the united states for example, have been able to overcome one of these devices.”

after outlining a number of characteristics exhibited by ufos, such as “remarkable accelerations of the craft right after a stationary mode,” the report indicates: “we feel that we must reject the thesis of a terrestrial origin for all the observations made since world war two. indeed, if a nation of the world had been able to secretly develop such an armada of exotic craft, like those observed for more than half a century, the means of analysis and strategic logistics available would have permitted their rapid identification. the illegal overflights which they have been guilty of conducting could constitute a casus belli [cause for war].” the sigma/3af experts go on to state that, “the above features suggest that in many cases the devices detected, far from being unidentified, are easily recognizable by the aerial defense agencies as part of a technology far ahead of ours.” and later: “we have been unable to get any serious indication as to the origin of the aerospace phenomena that is the subject of our research. the technological elements that we selected… allow us to draw some assumptions about the aircraft in question, which do not seem to belong to an identifiable terrestrial technology at the times when they were observed.”

the sigma/3af report finally agrees with cometa’s conclusion that we are probably facing an et presence. that conclusion was quite controversial for a semi-official study like cometa back in 1999 and was criticized by many in the french press. yet the sigma commission found no quarrel with it. “thus, the central hypothesis proposed by the cometa report still cannot be rejected up to this day and remains perfectly credible,” they wrote. “many documents and materials examined by the authors of this report confirm it. we have therefore retained, among some others but only as a working hypothesis, the possibility that most of the craft observed can have a non-terrestrial origin.”

please go to: http://www.openminds.tv/french-ufo-report-081610/ for full article

weboy78

08-26-2010, 08:13 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu_zfe3g2ni&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtyuethatpi&feature=player_embedded

what do you think about this?

Berry Chastain

08-27-2010, 10:10 AM

the first one just looked like a blob.
couldn't make much of it. the second one though, looked just like a white plastic shopping bag caught in a gust of wind. sorry to was just to plain.

12thUranus

08-27-2010, 03:56 PM

only a photo. close to me though :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw-tk9epuco&feature=related

evolving

08-27-2010, 11:19 PM

only a photo. close to me though :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw-tk9epuco&feature=related

this looks like the one i saw years ago, in that the configuration of lights was similar, though i had a much better view of it.

DJDeeZe

08-29-2010, 08:03 AM

http://www.allnewsweb.com/page1199999408.php

china discloses ufo reality: aliens sending ufo probes here

23 august 2010

china discloses ufo reality: aliens sending ufo probes here

michael cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com

dramatic events have taken place in china over the last few days and that nation's thousands of ufo researchers and enthusiasts are reeling in shock.

one of the heads of china's famous purple mountain astronomical observatory, prof. wang sichao, has gone public admitting the ufos are real and aliens are visiting earth and that the observatory has observed their craft many times. the admittance of ufo reality was made yesterday within an official speech entitled tellingly 'china's ufo truth'. this news has been extensively reported in china.

the key points that wang sichao have disclosed are that:

aliens are visiting earth on r & d expeditions
these ufos are probes manned by robots.
these craft travel at eighty percent the speed of light.
these craft have been seen by the observatory many times at between 150 and 1500 kilometers above earth.
the aliens might use nuclear fusion to propel their craft
39 years of work at purple mountain observatory has led wang to believe these craft use earth's gravity to manouvre and stay aloft
wang sichao also said he disagreed with stephen hawkings recent comments and declared that these aliens appear peaceful and require nothing materially from us as they can create their own materials using advanced technology.

in the event that these aliens do not come in peace, he stressed that they are not gods and have flaws and thus we can possibly defend ourselves.

(editors note: the purple mountain observatory was the station that observed the now well known ufo during last years eclipse. the entire text of the speech by wang sichau clearly shows that the stuff we have been saying about china and other places regarding ufos over the last few years is not just 'made up tabloid news' but fact and those that critisise this publication are the know nothings who have bought into the west's cover-up on this topic-sources on request-m cohen)

evolving

09-11-2010, 06:24 PM

alien technology nano technology invisibility jacket, x ray, proof ufo's use cloaking devices, swarms of ufo's remarkable footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ezh3lypr4

Strider44

09-27-2010, 04:14 AM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8026971/aliens-have-deactivated-british-and-us-nuclear-missiles-say-us-military-pilots.html

fascinating.

this supports the idea that earth is under management.

does david know about this?

lindabaker

09-27-2010, 05:45 PM

the us story has hit msnbc and reuters on their web pages. the reuters page features it prominently; the msnbc coverage is (for now) buried in the science and tech category. it will go viral on youtube fairly soon, i am certain. so far, i have only seen a large section, from somewhere in the middle to the formal ending of the press conference. if anyone finds an entire conference recording, please post it here. for those of you in the uk, msnbc is u.s. mainstream media, and reuters is the newswire used in the past by all of the mainstream newspapers before the internet. now, i am not certain of reuters role but it is still the biggest news organization in terms of "old school." this is a major breakthrough. please post entire conference if you can find it, and thank you.

lindabaker

09-27-2010, 06:31 PM

http://www.necn.com/09/27/10/shocking-revelation-former-air-force-per/landing.html?blockid=319245&feedid=4213

more disclosure! part of a cnn live stream news press

vjvousden

09-27-2010, 10:54 PM

in yesterday's uk telegraph (mainstream conservative newspaper--not a tabloid!) they told of the un office of ambassador to et visitors or something to that effect. and today on my progressive radio station which runs cnn radio news, they had a blurb of a military prominent figure saying they admit ets exist, are interested in us and are not the enemy. just this info getting out, he says, will create a whole paradigm shift! no kidding!! this is on mainstream news! the floodgates are opening!!! finally.

Tenet Nosce

10-02-2010, 08:00 AM

so what do folks think about the fact that the nukes destined for hiroshima and nagasaki were not disabled by ets?

12thUranus

10-02-2010, 06:36 PM

so what do folks think about the fact that the nukes destined for hiroshima and nagasaki were not disabled by ets?

love the post. it forces the mind to confront reality. love it.

were these the signals that it was necessary to intervene? (i'm not readily knowledgeable on the timeline.)

if the ets were future humans, wouldn't they have stopped these two as well??

could these two be a requisite for every human on the planet to acknowledge and understand the real severity of it, rather than speculate?

transiten

10-03-2010, 12:30 AM

so what do folks think about the fact that the nukes destined for hiroshima and nagasaki were not disabled by ets?

exactly my thought!!!

transiten

10-03-2010, 12:32 AM

love the post. it forces the mind to confront reality. love it.

were these the signals that it was necessary to intervene? (i'm not readily knowledgeable on the timeline.)

if the ets were future humans, wouldn't they have stopped these two as well??

could these two be a requisite for every human on the planet to acknowledge and understand the real severity of it, rather than speculate?

that was my second thought !!

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LightEye

10-03-2010, 12:18 PM

dear friends,

http://www.afterdisclosure.com/2010/09/ufos-nukes.html

http://www.afterdisclosure.com/2010/09/malmstrom-analysis.html

be well.

david

ufos and nuclear technology: a serious issue
written by richard m. dolan

2010 is turning out to be a very good year for the cause of ufo research and awareness. despite the traditional blinders exhibited by ossified mainstream media sources such as the new york times, there have been some encouraging developments.

certainly, the publication of leslie kean’s very fine work has been a key breakthrough. carefully written and solid as stone, ufos: generals, pilots, and government officials go on the record, is a new tool with which to broach the topic one must never discuss in polite society. leslie kean found a way.

now comes another important ufological event: the press conference at the national press club in washington, d.c. organized by ufo researcher and author (ufos and nukes) robert hastings and ufo witness usaf captain robert salas, it takes place on monday, september 27, 2010. as hastings put it on his website, the conference’s purpose was “to address the vital issue of ufo incursions at u.s. nuclear weapons sites over the past six decades.” (my co-author bryce zabel analyzes the media coverage of the event elsewhere on this site.)

robert salas -- the primary witness -- is telling the truth.

here's the case.

the malmstrom ufo event: did it really happen?
by richard m. dolan

over the last two years, a quiet controversy has been building in the field of ufo research. this concerns an attack on the truthfulness of what is one of the most discussed and important cases in current ufology: the 1967 malmstrom air force base ufo incident.

the case itself has been discussed countless times, including at the national press club in washington, d.c. on september 27, 2010, and quite recently by myself. as it is always told, it involves the shut-down of (generally speaking) twenty icbm missiles at two launch facilities while a ufo hovered above the area.

it’s never a good idea to jump into a controversy that has been brewing for so long. i truly question the wisdom of inserting myself into it. it is a debate filled by both sides with a great deal of information put forth, as well as much invective and posturing. there is tremendous emotional meaning to all parties involved. but there is also no shortage a facts and claims – a mass of data that requires care and patience and cannot be undertaken lightly.

Berry Chastain

10-03-2010, 01:36 PM

tenet and 12thuranus i will email an ebook to you which explains very clearly what happened regarding the nuclear bombing of japan. (pm me with your email addresses if you feel comfortable doing that.) i can't share the name of the ebook or its author on the forum. but a quick answer is that, yes, those bombs and the devastation it made spiritually not only to earth humans but spiritual entities in the nearby galaxy is what alerted the extraterrestrial people that we dumb stupid earthling had commited the worst of crimes. destroyed our own kind with nuclear weapons. remember that it was only a short time after that event that the ets began showing up all over the world. and roswell was not the first. also, i think that with a little searching in law of one wiki you will find that the ra also made some comments much to the same effect.

lillianne, i will email a copy directly to you as i have your email address.

transiten

10-04-2010, 03:32 AM

berry!

some sync! i've not been much on the forum lately but just arrived home only to find this thread and the e-book in my e-mail where you tell me you haven't been on the forum for long either! 30 years ago i wrote a song about mother earth and the atomic bomb and the daily newspaper that came out the day of my birth was filled with information about the nuclear atomic bomb and molotov cocktails reflecting among other things my very strong plutonian chart.

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transiten

10-04-2010, 05:59 AM

and as i turn on the radio a japanese componist has written "the starless night" that describe the bombing of dresden and the atomic bomb over hiroshima and nagasaki...

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weboy78

10-04-2010, 08:27 AM

http://royalsociety.org/extra-terrestrial-life/
four panel debates include

calling et, or not even answering the phone?

societal questions raised by the detection of extra-terrestrial life

what could studies of extra-terrestrial life tell us about the future of humanity?

extra-terrestrial life and arising political issues for the un agenda

confirmed panelists

ivan almar, stephen baxter, james benford, david brin, milan cirkovic, richard crowther, kathryn denning, steven dick, stephane dumas, frans von der dunk, john elliott, lisa kaltenegger, claudio maccone, michael michaud, mazlan othman, ted peters, margaret race, seth shostak, john smart, nicholas tosca, doug vakoch, clement vidal, felisa wolfe-simon, alexander zaitsev

capt.libra

10-04-2010, 10:44 AM

i find it humorous that while disclosure is bursting at the seams the dark cabal are restarting the fear machine with terrorist alerts for most of europe.

"come on people now smile on your brother and love one another right now!"

LightEye

10-07-2010, 04:25 PM

dear friends,

nice documentary...

http://www.thedaybeforedisclosure.com/

be well, be love.

david

we here at new paradigm films are among the millions of people across the world
who have a strong notion that humanity is on the verge of major change on both a
social, biological and spiritual level. but we also reckognize the need for
widespread information on the key subjects of this transformation. our goal is
to produce films covering several of these subjects, and make them available for
as many people as possible across the globe.

johnf

10-08-2010, 08:02 AM

this question is a good one ,and brings to mind the idea of nukes used in our reality causes damage to groups not on our planet, not in our time, not in our dimension etc. i think that more than one whistleblower on project camelot thinks that that is why many of these groups are here.
nukes are a very high energy disturbance and there are reports of them causing clocks in the blast area to be stopped without being damaged. that is a discernible effect on time in our dimension. what sort of effects could that cause on time lines. considering the interconnected nature of various realities, who knows what effects that nuclear activity can have on our neighbors. if they are affected they become on some level part of our reality and
that might open up permission to do something that would be considered interference previously.
john

capt.libra

10-08-2010, 11:18 AM

lighteye, thank you for all the videos you bring to this forum! finally disclosure. i knew it had to come from us earthlings. this video with hundreds more like it will lead to constant contact with our off world bretheren and begin the sharing of our legacey.
namaste'

transiten

10-12-2010, 03:40 AM

hi

yesterday i was going to a special place in gothenburg sweden to watch the sun go down where i have a broad view from high up. as i came there the sun disappeared behind a big cloud and i was a bit disappointed but just minutes later a strange light appeared: it looked like a bright blurrish oblique line and it did not move for more than 5 minutes and i was talking to a friend on the phone. i then saw that there was a even brighter spot on the bottom side. then the cloud hid (?) the phenomenon. the line was perfectly visible in the blue sky and did not move at all.

a funny sync is that the f´riend i spoke to had told me on the phone while i was on the train about the un ambassador for recieving visitors from outer space...and she is not the one who is updated:p but it was mentioned in mainstream media so...

another thing i noticed was that for the first time on dc as long as i've been here noone had posted yesterday 2010-10-11:confused:

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LightEye

10-15-2010, 04:51 PM

dear friends,

http://ufocon.blogspot.com/2010/10/renowned-us-navy-commander-reveals.html

be well, be love.

david

renowned u.s. navy commander reveals stunning roswell crash secret by anthony bragalia

copyright 2010, interamerica, inc.

one of the most acclaimed naval scientists in u.s. military history has stated
unequivocally that the roswell crash of 1947 was not of a balloon nor was it a
hoax. based on evidence he had seen in an official capacity, the commander was
instead convinced that the crash represents an event with deep implications for
all of mankind. universally acknowledged as the "grandfather" of satellite
technology - and a close associate of dr. werner von braun - commander george w.
hoover has revealed that the truth about roswell is far stranger that we have
ever dared to think.

paddyo68

11-03-2010, 08:55 PM

dear friends,

http://www.ufodata.co.uk/pdf/usaf_f15s_encounter_a_ufo.pdf

be well, be love.

david

sorry, but this link does not work.

LightEye

11-05-2010, 02:58 PM

dear friends,

http://ufocon.blogspot.com/2010/11/government-officials-caught-on-tape.html

be well, be love.

david

anthony bragalia has unearthed a recording of a meeting held on february 8, 1966, ostensibly to recognize the work of brazilian ufo researcher olavo fontes, md, by the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena (nicap). the meeting was attended by numerous notables, including the man bragalia points to as having remarked that extraterrestrial beings have disguised themselves as human to walk among us, much as our military and intelligence agencies have infiltrated enemy and potential enemy nations with agents trained to blend into the population and extract the secrets needed to defeat the enemy in time of war. bragalia presents the audio of the meeting in which the remarks about this extraterrestrial surveillance through infiltration are made.

LightEye

11-24-2010, 12:05 PM

dear friends,

more from rch. i can't find the original thread so i'm leaving it to the mod's to place the articl in the right place.

http://www.enterprisemission.com/norway-message3.htm

be well, be love.

david

a "nobel torsion message" over norway? part iii
updated!
by richard c. hoagland
© 2010 the enterprise mission

in the extended pre-dawn darkeness over norway last december, as we have recounted in parts i and ii of this report ... "something" truly amazing happened-- and reaction immediately divided into two totally opposing views: those who "bought" the official media story ... that "it was only another failed russian missile test ..."-- and then ... those who thought "it just might be something else this time ...."

as we have shown previously, there can be little doubt at this point that a russian rocket was involved.

but-- the conclusion that everyone has jumped to -- with the striking exception of the russians themselves -- that, somehow, the russians caused the spiral-- well, that's a "leap too far" ....

we can now report, based on analysis of the extensive imaging evidence reported via the norwegian press, that the norway spiral was not primarily caused by "a failed russian missile test ...." but-- the failed russian rocket could, in fact, have been caused by whatever forces "created the norway spiral ...."

this section of our on-going analysis will describe precisely "how."

[moderator note - this is not a new article from hoagland. the link to this same article (part iii) was posted in this thread in february (post # 546). the article was updated after this post was put up but the update itself is now several months old. still, we'll include this as some may not have seen the update when originally done.]

TOTHE

01-31-2011, 09:03 PM

ufo sighting in jerusalem
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/31/5962284-jerusalem-videos-stir-ufo-buzz

MarkM

01-31-2011, 09:43 PM

i found something today after researching the jerusalem ufo. this link is to a wikipedia photo which was posted in march 2008 which seems to me to be the identical image used in the up close video of the ufo.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/file:jerusalem_night_7088.jpg

a little digging revealed evidence of hoax with the other vids, and tothe, your alan boyle page did earlier in the day present some of this evidence; but the evidence has since been removed from the article. mark

Xisto

01-31-2011, 11:20 PM

disclosure is coming up on many levels, all of them applying to matters pertaining our own kind.

if ufo disclosure is what was meant as such, please believe me when i say that it will be different on two different levels.

the disclosure that is now on its way is about "enough is enough", permanently gaining momentum while it feeds upon the people's increasing level of awareness, reached by "leaked information", which prompts them to make a stand for their rights.

this feeds upon itself, no matter how some of the mainstream media might try to edit it, either leaving it out or pointing that it is dangerous to rise in rebellion. (last thursday night, the only image about the popular upheaval in egypt chosen to be shown twice by the largest tv news program in brazil has been that of a man being shot to death.)

that is one level, which has, let's say, natural causes, while it still stems from the doings of the mandatory powers.

the other different level of disclosure might be different in itself, and it either comes from governments that summon upon others (such as the address to the us made by canada's secretary of defense) or comes from popular demands made to governments, such as the one done by disclosure project.

an interesting thing to take notice, in the latter cases, is that the requests have received the same answer from the american government.

why would that be so?

logic brings me to this rather obvious conclusion: it cannot be done.

and then, again, why would that be so?

logic comes to the rescue, once more, to say that they do not allow themselves to show whatever it is that they have.

why?

help me out, oh, logic: because it would spill all over "them", whomever they might be.

let's try to reason this out: if the apparitions come from sources other than our own and the us government does know about their exact origin and consistence, that would mean that such information has been witheld by those who have ran the government since this knowledge has become available, perhaps at roswell, perhaps from the nazi.

but what if the apparitions come from a source that is not any other than our own? same rule of secrecy would then have to become applied, and with a vengeance.

either way we see it, they will have nothing of actual alien origin to show out, as it has been asked, and the original deadline given the disclosure project has been postponed over and over again.

why?

one possibility is that they have been let in into the reasons why it should remain under a veil and have concurred about that.

another one is that they are honestly waiting for the us to deliver.

a third one is that they could have been part of the hiding during the whole time, from its very beginning, acting as a front, because it was known that the situation had already gone out of the control of the governours of the us, because people from other governments had gained access to it. in this scenario, disclosure project would be counter intelligence.

but then in the latter scenario, the us government would have to have had aliens as accomplices, one thing in which i do not believe, at least not if it is to be considered that such beings are not of human origin.

but the us could certainly have "alien humans" in complicity, the same ones who had handed down that technology, unwillingly at first, and then as aids! (don't doubt that human duality might have found its way into the future.)

but why would it all have to be kept under such secrecy? why the con job? why the deception?

(continued)

Xisto

01-31-2011, 11:21 PM

and here comes the bullet: one level of disclosure that has been almost left unseen is that of free and clean energy! right now, scientists like marko rodin have come up with answers in this realm of technology, enhancing the legacy of human intelligence once represented by nikola tesla.

for whatever reason both rodin and tesla's findings did not find their way into being financed without further capitalist interest...

so let's reason once more and see if we can bring all of this together!

what if the us - or anyone else - has been deliberately holding back information about the fact that there is knowledge and control of free and clean sources of energy, one about which they had total knowledge and control?

oh, now, that would be some major disclosure, would it not?

at the same time, such disclosure would bring down to its knees the whole cartel of some of the most rich and powerful men on earth, the ones who have explored heat and explosion to generate energy, using sources such as wood, charcoal and oil and employing men to extract these "goods" under miserable conditions, bringing capitalism up to its pinnacle and the planet down to its lowest depth.

so the planet has been exhausted, drilled, heatened and the us knew how to avoid that?

so mankind has been exploited with suffering, scarcity of means for survival and heavy damage to health and the us knew how to avoid that?

so masses of people have been left in the poorest of conditions, having to spend what they did not have to buy what they could not get and the us knew how to avoid that?

no! that just cannot be.

so the same logic that has driven me to these poorly written conclusions is the one one that leads me to believe that the us government and his partners - from here, there or anywhere in time and space - have only been buying time ever since something - perhaps foreseen - was about to happen which would have them turned in as traitors to mankind.

and i believe that they were buying time to stage a perfectly balanced "ufo/alien" disclosure, one that would not only keep the integrity that they demand for themselves as a benign world power but also to serve as a tool to have totally wiped off of them the tittle of deceptors of their (our) own kind, to be stood down in the highest possible contempt due to their own sistematic and continued disregard for the same humanity they take so much pride to stand for, as "keepers of democracy and freedom".

they would still be the masters of deception disguised as saviours of the day, and humanity would still remain enslaved - by ignorance, at least.

so, to end this tale, i shall say that if the us is ever to fail present a disclaimer of mea culpa before presenting any kind of alien race that has brought us technology that would help us save our planet from being poorly treated... well, we can believe in the technology itself - which is already about to become available to men in some other parts of the planet -, we can even get to use it, and we can even treat them all deceivers very well, compassionately, but then we must know that they had been deceiving us for a long time.

but then, in that case, one thing is for sure: if and when that claim of self guilt is performed, a few industries will already be prepared to involve their skills in the making of the best products of the "new" technology and we would be summoned about their qualities as "best in line", so that we would have to buy the same goods that we could have been building for ourselves for at least 60 years.

would you buy it? :rolleyes:

for whatever reason, i was just reminded about nicolas roeg's classic motion picture "the man who fell to earth"... :d

frodoking

02-01-2011, 05:28 AM

it looks like the ufo wave is here. the dome of the rock ufo is the most convincing since it is shot by several unrelated people from very different points of view.

http://www.care2.com/news/member/505832541/2710782

http://www.unknowncountry.com/out-th...-extraordinary

@mark - i have seen some information that the dome of the rock ufo might be a hoax, but it is not very convincing. any concrete evidence that it is a hoax?

MarkM

02-01-2011, 10:03 AM

12thUranus

02-01-2011, 10:52 AM

at the same time, such disclosure would bring down to its knees the whole cartel of some of the most rich and powerful men on earth, the ones who have explored heat and explosion to generate energy, using sources such as wood, charcoal and oil and employing men to extract these "goods" under miserable conditions, bringing capitalism up to its pinnacle and the planet down to its lowest depth.

not only because they would be exposed, but because free energy presents a paradigm world in which the very methods of their gain cease to exist. "how to we manipulate unencumbered, autonomous citizens :eek: ?". oh wait, they still have military might, but it's just that they seem to have embraced a more manipulative tactic instead. oh wait, no, not really. "life" is the same today as it was 3000 years ago; we are all "living" the same way with each other.
okay, i shouldn't have said anything. again, good job, xisto.

well, we can believe in the technology itself - which is already about to become available to men in some other parts of the planet -, we can even get to use it, and we can even treat them all deceivers very well, compassionately, but then we must know that they had been deceiving us for a long time.

but then, in that case, one thing is for sure: if and when that claim of self guilt is performed, a few industries will already be prepared to involve their skills in the making of the best products of the "new" technology and we would be summoned about their qualities as "best in line", so that we would have to buy the same goods that we could have been building for ourselves for at least 60 years.

like a child whose worthless, absent father returns home after he's been gone a week, out with hookers and gamblers-- 'who cares, he brought home a new bike and ice cream! yay!'

'cool. look what i can do now! :cool:'

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i personally wouldn't rest my hat on any of it as concrete evidence of anything but the mysterious nature of life.

mysterious indeed, mark, an enigmatic existence indeed.

12thUranus

02-01-2011, 11:07 AM

they would still be the masters of deception disguised as saviours of the day, and humanity would still remain enslaved - by ignorance, at least.

even in our struggle to be one and serve others we are at the folly of serving ourselves via struggling. we want to conquer. we want to say "i told you so!" we want "them" to fall like godless fools. we want them to find comfort in us, which is us wanting them to concede victory. we want to escape the controlling hand over us, and this sentiment has ceaselessly been on this earth, forever!-- be it a parent, a boss, a physical impairment, a government, a dictator. we want to get away from it all. "just stop. leave me alone!" is what we cry out. "everyone stop and listen to me!" "do what i think is best."

we will always see the grass as greener on the other side. always.

ignorance is bliss! it really, truly is!

TOTHE

02-01-2011, 03:12 PM

markm: excellent dd! yes it looks like a hoax. there is no way a tourist can hold a camera that steady, pan & zoom on a freezing january night in jerusalem. i compared the 2008 photo and the "camera" shot and agree with you. i was in jerusalem in january, 2009 and it was shivering cold, also at one time i was standing on that same balcony where the 2008 still-photo was taken.
now why would someone go through all the effort plant this??
keep placing a lie in front of people eventually it will become part of our conscious reality, imo. meanwhile it will discredit any future real ufo sightings from jerusalem. it could be a deliberate plant to deflect credibility and desensitize people from the truth.

Turtleboy

02-01-2011, 04:37 PM

the finding of the wikipedia pic simply means that there is a balcony that many, many people have taken shots from. i don't know how anyone can jump to such bold conclusions, that this was in fact used to doctor one of the vids.

a youtube poster named 'mrpsychoclown' posted the following vid of side by side footage. he did a rather poor job as this honestly proves nothing; merely an assumption built upon yet another flimsy assumption.
he, too, stumbled across the same pic that has been posted from wiki and sources it. hmmm...wonder who found it first, since many have claimed to have "stumbled" across it. dubious posts by dubious people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axr8swo5ju4

i feel like debunkers are running around like chickens with their heads chopped off at this event. the parallax explanation doesn't hold either, as the conditions and equipment used weren't perfect.(when is it ever) i've taken footage that produces these same effects, yet nobody would jump out and scream fake!!

i'm gonna use a quote that is often used against these fringe topics. since the video(s) (yes plural! it's what makes this sighting so exciting) are not to be brushed off by amateurs regurgitating 50 cent words and halfassed science.

"extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"- carl sagan

where does the burden of proof lie now?

frodoking

02-01-2011, 05:10 PM

aside from the fact that i linked to a 2008 wiki photo which is obviously the same image used as a backdrop for the faked close-up vid, what would constitute concrete evidence?

how far would one take this investigation? would one suspect that the wiki photo is put there just days ago with fake photo credits?

concrete evidence - well i don't know about that but there is this. watch the foreground including the man, the low wall and the tree and how there's a weird disconnect between that and the cityscape:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=choc35nmudk&nr=1

one can't be sure that the debunking itself isn't faked; indeed something smells like toronto harbour here. outer evidence of the visitor phenomena via video and the like can at best be circumstantial in my book, and i personally wouldn't rest my hat on any of it as concrete evidence of anything but the mysterious nature of life.

most of all, all are perfectly justified in accepting or otherwise that which lends them personal creedence to that which they hold in their heart. intrinsic nature and meaning of outer circumstance and the rigours of the intellect are, i believe, only important inasfar as is valuable to your intuitive spiritual well-being. mark

yeah, the problem with the debunking video is it is easier to fake than the ufo video. the wall might appear to be fluctuating because of autofocus problems, signal compression issues, etc. i am no expert at video recording problems. but, i have had enough video experience to tell you that video cameras often don't record reality accurately, especially cheap video cameras. and, transmission also can play havoc with video images. just look at david's first "accessing your higher self" streaming video recording. the interesting part is the guy standing behind the wall also looks strange in some of the frames, but it's more of a side to side motion. i don't see him moving up and down like the small wall in front of him. it's a hard call to make. right now i am on the fence.

frodoking

02-01-2011, 05:41 PM

okay, after reviewing the "tourist" video i am going to go out on a limb and say this is real.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry2ffeufsuy&feature=related

if you notice in the lower left hand corner, at the 8 sec. mark, there is a lighted window that changes it's appearance as the camera pans. this would not happen if this were simply a picture on a screen of a monitor. also, the sound is very realistic and very hard to fake tone quality consistency, closer and farther away from mic, etc. a hollywood person could do it, but not some amateur. the reason it looks grainy when he zooms in is because he is using a cheap video camera. the camera is obviously pretty far away from the dome of the rock and it looks grainy even before he zooms in, but the objects closer to the camera do not look grainy. this is consistent with how cheap video cameras operate. - i think this is real.

MarkM

02-01-2011, 06:04 PM

not seeing the 8 second mark change.

i would invite anyone to do an exhaustive comparison of the 2008 image and the vid (dynamic lightblasting techniques notwithstanding) in question and locate something that has changed in the almost 3 year interim. there's also this - i'd draw your attention to the vid (3:03) with the ats logo:

http://www.youtube.com/user/hoaxkiller1#p/a/u/1/h5s78wr0uf0

this guy uses strong language to declare a hoax. i wouldn't put it as strongly and with such finality because i am prone to error and so is he. mark

frodoking

02-01-2011, 07:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry2ffeufsuy&feature=related

the 8 sec. mark change is right as the video starts, the large window at the bottom of the screen shows a dark figure that comes and goes as the camera quickly pans back and forth. this would indicate that the cmos or ccd sensors are picking up some isolated light source.

as far as the graininess goes...here is an early picture (1997) from a phone camera. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/file:firstcameraphoneimage.gif

obviously the technology has improved since then, but it shows the exact same graininess as illustrated in the debunking video.

MarkM

02-01-2011, 08:00 PM

frodoking, i do honour your vision!

the true beauty of evolving life which i would never tread upon is that we all see what we want to see, as there is room here for all of us to interpret as we will with no one viewpoint being genuinely and rightfully justified in foisting itself upon any other to any degree whatsoever.

i'd offer in response to some posters that we don't belittle one another's interpretations or another's vision in order to justify our own.

one can rightfully suggest and present one's own honest viewpoint but to press and attempt to force our viewpoints is to come upon one's own inherent distortions. lesson here?

this is perhaps something that humanity at large would be well to acknowledge, imo.

as to the question of shared mystery, please read the info in the link carefully. mark

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?search_string=ufo&search_type=phrase&ss=1

Turtleboy

02-01-2011, 08:58 PM

i wouldn't say it's an exhaustive analysis, but i did find an element that differed. but it must be pointed out, that the fact that most of these elements match, after 3 years time is a big tell towards 'this' particular vid being doctored.

i took the pic from wiki and in photoshop played with the curves to adjust brightness. found the following: http://i.imgur.com/ub5oe.jpg

as for the tone of this conversation, i agree that perspectives must be respected; insofar the conversation maintains balance. words such as "obviously" were starting to be used, when more analysis should have been taken. we're all big boys and girls and have access to the ra material.

no fighting words or condescending posts are needed; simply the evolution of conversation.

MarkM

02-01-2011, 10:25 PM

i apologise for my error with regard to judgement with the 'obviously' comment. that being said, i will always be found to be in error - at least i hope! :p

the vid rendering of the image seems to be lightblasted, (the close up vid) rendering the more high-def and non-lightblasted renderings of the original hi-def pic to seem different. there is a technique perhaps being used which has the moving image to surrender to light ghosts which persist as the filming camera pans across the scene, mimicking live motion for the benefit of the viewer - at least, that's what this one sees... ;) again, your vision works best for you, as it should.

there seems to be similar techniques used in at least one other vid. mark

Xisto

02-02-2011, 12:26 AM

ignorance is bliss! it really, truly is!

i fell truly blessed about my own, for it has always been at the start of every quest!

and still i know nothing!

when thoughts cease to exist... maybe then i may find myself.

a long way to go, with all the noise.

and now it's this ufo noise, so bad it hurts sight.

but then there's abundant proof that indeed seeing is not believing, for never before have i seen so many (videos) and never before could i believe less than i do now.

am i blind? guess not, but someone out there is trying to make it look that way.

show me so much of something that i'll believe it is there.

does not work with me, i'm too thick.

and my logic does not let go.

12thUranus

02-02-2011, 05:19 AM

i think you all have covered the visuals.

the audio jumped out immediately at me. mainly, the dialogue didn't sound like what i would expect to hear. immediately, a lady begins reflecting on what she is seeing before she is finished witnessing it in real time. i don't have a certificate declaring my ability to examine psychological tendencies, but i know people well enough. they didn't sound like a group of people witnessing a helicopter that close, much less a ufo.

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what's funny, mark, is that i would have bought it without investigation. thanks for violating my right to confusion ;). (sarcasm)

frodoking

02-02-2011, 06:11 AM

i appreciate the detective work by mark etc. and the back and forth discussion in trying to get to the bottom of this dome of the rock ufo thing.

with the level of video technology available to the average person these days it might be impossible to determine on a matter-of-fact level whether any ufo videos are real sightings. perhaps the only valid sightings involve many eyewitness accounts. i admit the seeming anonymity of the people who posted the youtube videos of the dome of the rock ufo is suspicious. it's just odd that people would go to so much trouble to do a ufo hoax. it seems like there would be easier ways to be just as convincing with a ufo hoax.

i might get in the hoax camp if i could compare the hd pic the "tourist" vid is supposedly based on.

mark, please explain "lightblasted".

meanwhile, i will look at the law of one ufo stuff posted by mark.

frodoking

02-02-2011, 06:30 AM

update: turtleboy i think you nailed it with the hd photo comparison with the "tourist" video. the exact same window lights are on in both pictures. odds of that are about zero. also, i think you are right about the cable being photoshoped out. this is weird since they don't even go to the trouble to recreate the flash in the tourist video that is created in the other videos.

oh well, i guess i am back in the hoax camp.

Turtleboy

02-02-2011, 08:07 AM

yes. the true value of these conversations is in these discernment's.

as much as i want to believe that the sighting was real (and it may very well still stand) i cannot ignore the obvious; especially when my own eyes have inspected the evidence.

what i'm contemplating is this: that 'this' particular vid was doctored and planted, with the alleged 2008 pic planted as well, as to be traced and unraveled and the whole vid easily discredited. thus the entire event being discredited.

the vid was very well done: this causes alarm, since obvious effort was put forth. if the entire sighting is proved to be false; what could that tell us?
since this has been footage for the ages, and most have shared with loved ones and doubters, an unraveling of said footage would shake the foundations of the movement towards disclosure; if even a little bit.

interesting stuff. let's keep our eyes and minds open. :)

Turtleboy

02-02-2011, 08:30 AM

ok, now a fourth vid has been released. this one with a flash and the red lights up above. you can also clearly see cars and the flickering of lights in the city.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyeolwggzpg&feature=player_embedded

things are getting interesting. to me this leads me to believe that the 3rd in the series is the planted hoax; the one that we've been talking about, the still wiki pic.

12thUranus

02-02-2011, 10:28 AM

#4 does make it more interesting. i would think that a closer shot would show a much brighter intense flash than the more distant shots. i also think the flash would reflect off the ground structures.

it's not a ufo of course, but the videos of meteors landing show the entire sky light up like daytime.

i read over the ufo loo search page last week. i'm pretty much going to consider every ufo sighting from here on out as earth human manufactured, real or hoax.
think about it. if we all committed to this resignation, based on the true purpose of sightings according to loo, then one of two things will happen. either ets will have to step up to the plate and be more revealing, or they will stop all together. that's a big if.
they'll know now that if they want me to contemplate infinity they'll have to do better than that. of course, they've never attempted to peak my curiousity with my own sighting. i won't hold my breath. i pretty much let them know everyday that i'm not happy with their lack of exposure. lol. i just created my own slogan. i don't want gov disclosure. i want et exposure!

MarkM

02-02-2011, 12:00 PM

more interesting, indeed!

if there had been an authentic event the 'discovery' of video fraud would tend to discredit the whole thing. - much as was widely suspected with last year's vids purporting to show the ufo over the chinese airport. mark

Happystrings

02-02-2011, 04:53 PM

[quote=12thuranus;58981, i just created my own slogan. i don't want gov disclosure. i want et exposurer![/quote]

i'm borrowing your slogan. really, isn't it about time?

tanam

02-02-2011, 09:42 PM

mod: not sure which topic i should post this to

an article from exopolitics on chinese national tv (xinhua) saying imminent ufo disclosure.

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/chinese-national-tv-reporting-impending-ufo-et-disclosure-by-obama-government

the xinhua china tv broadcast on the official news channel stating that president barack obama may be preparing an official u.s. disclosure of the extraterrestrial presence by one perspective may be fueled by an “extraterrestrial disclosure race” now developing between china, the u.s., and other major space powers as to which nation will be the first nation will use the authority of its head of state and secret et files to authoritatively declare there is an extraterrestrial presence on earth

Turtleboy

02-03-2011, 04:07 AM

Tim Bravo

02-03-2011, 03:10 PM

have you peeps seen this footage?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=accrd97xabs&feature=related

i lived in mexico for a while and still have most of my relatives there. this topic is mundane over there, as it's already widely accepted. haha!

pretty interesting footage. i'd like to hear all the ufo detractors explain how this was faked. as a video and motion graphics professional, it sure looks authentic to me.

Glothr

02-05-2011, 12:43 AM

tonight i went over to my dad and step-mom's apartment to help them organize their furniture (they just moved in). after awhile my dad and i decided to go to a nearby supermarket to get some things they needed. we turned on a street heading north not far from the store and that's when we both saw it. in the sky to the west was, what we thought, the moon. at first we both go "hm, does the moon look weird to you?"

the reason it "looked weird" was because instead of it being illuminated from the sides (like normal) it appeared that it was having light cast on it from the bottom! it was definitely a circle, sphere, but it did not appear to have the same surface as our moon. i saw no craters or variances in the color or shade of the surface. my dad pulled his phone out and looked up what could cause the moon to look that way. he found a picture of the moon from the perspective of the north pole. it was exactly the same as what we saw.

we continued to the store and i kept looking at it as he drove. it appeared to be closer and larger than the moon should or could be i noticed. i could see no defining texture or surface of it. all we saw was a big black sphere that had a small crescent of light at the bottom. we pulled into a parking spot and i called my sister to confirm she saw what we both did. she acted as if it were common to see such a sight which baffled me. i have never in my 21 years of life seen the moon in such a way, yet she was not phased a bit. she also does not believe in anything et or metaphysical. common 24 year old pretty much.

my dad and i went into the store and got our groceries in probably 20-30 minutes and we went back to the car. the store was large and the number of lights in the parking lot made it hard to spot it from the angle we were at so we drove to the place we saw it from before. this is where it got really weird. it was gone. we looked for probably 10 minutes all over the sky to try and find the moon. not one trace. we could see some stars here and there but the moon was nowhere to be seen again. we checked the forecast for where we live and there was no reports of cloud coverage so it couldn't have been covered up by clouds. and even if it were we still should have been able to see a faint outline of where the light was. nothing. it had just vanished. upon further discussion my dad also noted it was not in the right place in the sky for the time (~7:00pm cst). it was to the west, low, closer than usual, and illuminated as if we were looking at it from the north pole.

my dad and i are both baffled as to what we saw. we both agree that it was not the moon since:
a) was in the wrong place in the sky for the time of day
b) illuminated from the bottom instead of one of the sides
c) was closer than usual
d) could not see any craters or markings you can usually see on the moon at night
e) was completely gone from the sky 20-30 minutes after we had just seen it before entering the grocery store

folks, i don't know what we saw. i don't know if it was a ufo or some kind of massive planetoid spacecraft, another moon/planet, or what. all we know is that it was not normal. maybe we're overlooking something simple but we honestly discussed and ruled out as many things as we could think of. we did not just jump to this conclusion. i had to tell somebody else about this event because i have never seen something like it before. maybe somebody else out there saw the same thing we did and can lend credibility to what i'm typing here. my dad and i both saw this object and we both noted how strange it looked. it was not in our minds.

Turtleboy

02-05-2011, 09:51 AM

amazing account glothr. hopefully this inspires more questions then answers; as such subjects do.
--

on the temple mount, jerusalem sighting, 'india daily' the publication that dw talked about briefly recently, had this to say of the event:

the ufo at the dome of the rock at jerusalem is israel has been found to be a total human made illusion.

it was a combination of three solid holograms, very advanced technology. the people behind this illusion are the same people who has been instrumental in trying suppress the existence of ufo all around the world.

these folks are trying to confuse people to prove that extraterrestrials are bad trying to muck around with human holy sites.

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/22105.asp

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curioso, curioso

Xisto

02-07-2011, 04:45 AM

this is a book called

[please pm for title and link]

"to state the conundrum briefly, the so-called flying saucers seen by arnold and countless others across the globe were called "unidentified flying objects" by the united states air force. the terminology became common place but deceptive. hence, the shorter euphonism, ufos was used to describe such aerial sightings the world over. this being so, the reader will first become acquainted with four identifiable aerial happenings which have been declassified. they are all researched and documented cases from the years 1947, 1948 and 1955, and are actual crash landings and subsequent encounters with beings from other worlds.

"following these reports the story will be revealed of the round wing plane as it was developed on planet earth. and when the revelation is unfolded, quite imperceptibly, the following conclusion will dawn on most readers:

"the genesis of a new age has already begun for earthlings. and it is self evident -- we are late in joining the interplanetary creatures who have ventured into the vastness of the universe in search of other intelligent beings."

Turtleboy

02-07-2011, 07:08 AM

new footage from mexico:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epakjhyiwwq

based off the lingo and conversation; i know that these people at least witnessed what is seen on screen. mexican culture can be so humorous at times. haha :)

LightEye

02-28-2011, 11:38 AM

dear friends,

a new spiral...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnvijfv6tos

be well, be love.

david

LightEye

03-04-2011, 12:37 PM

dear friends,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jyu2rzrjmm

be well, be love.

david

SealThree

04-12-2011, 01:43 PM

hello,

second post of the day. is anyone aware of the light show that happened on in 2004 in southern iraq. from 2:00am to about 3:45am(i am a security contractor in iraq on tier one clients & projects) there where like hundreds or even thousands of either shooting stars or ufos. i seen my share of these but nothing like that. one came in the atmosphere exploded and split in two and the form off in different directions and you could see the smoke trails.they where also followed by fast movers. so if anyone knows or has heard of it, please explain?? was in that country for almost five years until i was in the wrong place at the wrong time. thank you for your time.

respectfully
c. foster harmon

Felicatra

07-07-2011, 03:27 AM

cnn footage of ufo's during phoenix sandstorm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efraqmkyc5g&hd=1

Felicatra

07-29-2011, 01:23 PM

brazil ufo, july 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzipbgxojoc&feature=channel_video_title

Seeker01

08-01-2011, 12:29 AM

hello all. im not entirely sure where to post this but i though i would share this video i ran across with you all.

secrets of the ufo - an interview done in 1978 on the show "open up" with guests don elkins & carla rueckert. its 5 parts. i hope you all enjoy. =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo0dt40csvo&feature=related

Jeia Ra Manuk

08-01-2011, 04:12 PM

seeker01,
wonderful, just wonderful! thanks a lot! i've enjoyed the watch! is that young noory? i don't want to be wrong, i'm just really young!

love and light,
ra ma

Seeker01

08-01-2011, 05:42 PM

Jeia Ra Manuk

08-01-2011, 06:15 PM

jeia ra manuk,
if you're talking about the host, his name is bill tush. i had to go look it up. took me a bit, but was finally able to find a trascript of the show. aaaand i just now realized, had i been smarter about it, i would have found it sooner because its on the llresearch site. >.< oh well.

omg did he ever look like noory! the voice was just very similar so my mind categorized it! thanks a lot for going out of your way to find that out! i feel a bit ridicules... i guess being young has its disadvantages!

love,
ra ma

p.s: if anyone is reading go watch that video! did the two of them ever know exactly what was coming their way! amazing!

WholisticOne

08-05-2011, 08:39 AM

long story short..

seen an oblong ufo in the night sky- videoed on my phone.. what i seen by naked eye didnt come through on mobile but after looking at that utube brazil ufo sighting.. it matches near exact to what i caught on camera - have deleted most of the recordings as felt it could not have been a ufo but now thanks to op - i believe 100%!!!!!... (moved behind our apartment block by the power lines into a farmers field behind - cows started moo'ing..) then a couple of weeks later.. a 3ft grey alien sighting by my partner in spot again beside power lines... dogs/cows went mad again.

i shall never doubt again...

Felicatra

08-17-2011, 08:39 AM

as u.k. releases ufo files, former ufo project chief apologizes for 'spin and dirty tricks

"as the british national archives continues to release ufo-related documents, the former ministry of defense (mod) ufo project chief is openly admitting to being part of what he claims was a u.k. policy of ridiculing ufo reports and the people who reported them.

the u.k. made public 34 previously-classified files, totaling about 9,000 pages of documents covering the years 1985 to 2007. for three of those years, 1991 to 1994, nick pope was in charge of the official mod office.

"what's abundantly clear from these files is that, while in public we were desperately pushing the line that this was of no defense interest," pope told the huffington post. "we couldn't say 'there's something in our air space; pilots see them; they're tracked on radar; sometimes we scramble jets to chase these things, but we can't catch them.' this would be an admission that we'd lost control of our own air space, and such a position would be untenable."

"every time we got a report from a pilot, we were checking the radar tapes. so it was an interesting sleight of hand. we were telling the public we're not interested, this is all nonsense, but in reality, we were desperately chasing our tails and following this up in great detail," he added.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/uk-releases-ufo-files_n_927351.html