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Tiffani Boswell

11-07-2001, 02:42 PM

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>i have been doing some research, more in depth, on the Ra Material and have run into cassiopaea...
>
>what is your comments on this? they have stated that the Ra Material was 63% accurate (which was good with the free will distortions) and that it was a precursor to the cassiopaea material....
>
>any comments would be helpful...thank you

David Wilcock

11-07-2001, 03:35 PM

From: Tiffani Boswell [mailto:tiffani@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=N8SZWwopxkQL6OdNEr4W58dnlq18HGq-2R5QrHUtwprFopf6iCsAd9U0WH6NasPuQ3_9H2krtl7QhjqMgg )]

i have been doing some research, more in depth, on the Ra Material and have
run into cassiopaea...

what is your comments on this? they have stated that the Ra Material was 63%
accurate (which was good with the free will distortions) and that it was a
precursor to the cassiopaea material....

any comments would be helpful...thank you

DW: No offense to you, Tiffani, but I really don't want to keep being placed
in the role of arbiter of others' work and may just stop answering questions
like this altogether. This is one of the ones that keeps coming up, and my
personal experience with it gives me no reason to pursue it.

Yes, the woman is undoubtedly in some form of a trance state. Yes, the man
has studied his physics and raises some interesting points. Several emailers
have gone so far as to suggest that it is service-to-self philosophy
carefully cloaked, and to "BE VERY CAREFUL." There is certainly evidence to
back up that idea, and Ra states that some measure of "compromise" is the
most common fate of channelers. That is one reason why I am forthcoming
about both my strengths and my distortions, so people can gauge for
themselves whether I pattern my life by what I teach.

Personally I have seen a number of cases where questions that are very
complex but easily answerable for any 5D entity or above are obfuscated,
dodged and avoided.

I am also aware that the people doing this work have issued statements to
their emailers telling them to avoid the "flawed" asc2000 work.

Peace be with you -

- David

theodorepong

11-07-2001, 05:01 PM

--- In asc2k@y..., "David Wilcock" <djw333@e...> wrote:
> From: Tiffani Boswell [mailto:tiffani@2...]
>
> i have been doing some research, more in depth, on the Ra Material
and have
> run into cassiopaea...
>
> what is your comments on this? they have stated that the Ra Material
was 63%
> accurate (which was good with the free will distortions) and that it
was a
> precursor to the cassiopaea material....
>
> any comments would be helpful...thank you
>
> DW: No offense to you, Tiffani, but I really don't want to keep
being placed
> in the role of arbiter of others' work and may just stop answering
questions
> like this altogether. This is one of the ones that keeps coming up,
and my
> personal experience with it gives me no reason to pursue it.

Then the best option could be "not answering" instead of making
a big deal out of it. You poor thing, yoou.

>
> Yes, the woman is undoubtedly in some form of a trance state. Yes,
the man
> has studied his physics and raises some interesting points. Several
emailers
> have gone so far as to suggest that it is service-to-self philosophy
> carefully cloaked, and to "BE VERY CAREFUL."

I would use that advice with any thing i read no matter what the
source.

There is certainly
evidence to
> back up that idea, and Ra states that some measure of "compromise"
is the
> most common fate of channelers.

What was the comprimise with the ra channelings, David?

That is one reason why I am
forthcoming
> about both my strengths and my distortions, so people can gauge for
> themselves whether I pattern my life by what I teach.

an excellent quality to have. But yoou needed not mention it so often.

>
> Personally I have seen a number of cases where questions that are
very
> complex but easily answerable for any 5D entity or above are
obfuscated,
> dodged and avoided.
>
> I am also aware that the people doing this work have issued
statements to
> their emailers telling them to avoid the "flawed" asc2000 work.

Hmmmm....i am aware that David has said they are sts.

But i do agree with David......you must make your own decisions.

>
> Peace be with you -
>
> - David

David Wilcock

11-07-2001, 08:59 PM

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Then the best option could be "not answering" instead of making
a big deal out of it. You poor thing, yoou.

DW: Well, since most of your participations on this list have mentioned
Cassiopeia, thank you for proving my point with an ad-hominem attack.

But it's all a game anyway... and we get so carried away in transient
nonsense. Hence I have tried to make the Convergence series as free from
channeled speculation as possible.

Peace be with you -

- David

Tiffani Boswell

11-08-2001, 07:05 AM

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>thanks for the answers ... and for the sake of the list...i will try to stick to Ra Material questions....for now...I just ordered the first book...so that should be interesting...
>
>thanks tiffani
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>i have been doing some research, more in depth, on the Ra Material and have run into cassiopaea...
>
>what is your comments on this? they have stated that the Ra Material was 63% accurate (which was good with the free will distortions) and that it was a precursor to the cassiopaea material....
>
>any comments would be helpful...thank you

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theodorepong

11-08-2001, 09:55 AM

--- In asc2k@y..., "Tiffani Boswell" <tiffani@2...> wrote:
> thanks for the answers ... and for the sake of the list...i will try
to stick to Ra Material questions....for now...I just ordered the
first book...so that should be interesting...
>
>
There is something wrong with a list that will not tolerate discussion
of other "truths".

I am aware that David is a brilliant individual, (just ask him)
and i admire his work. I had waded through all of the ra books
when i found David's condensed version by accident. Believe me, it is
a much easier read.

But to stop at that point would be foolish.
If you have been given the desire to learn, by all means, keep
learning.

All is learning, huh, David. ;)

Enjoy the "game".

Jeremy Weiland

11-08-2001, 10:23 AM

> what is your comments on this? they have stated that
> the Ra Material was 63%
> accurate (which was good with the free will
> distortions) and that it was a
> precursor to the cassiopaea material....

Well, it really comes down to this in the end. We can
have a "he said, she said" game among the channeled
entities, trying to prove to others that our favored
entity is the correct one, or we can turn within and
let our inner voice be the arbiter of good/bad
channelling. Like Ra says (and this resonates with me
so I consider it true on that basis), they only
provide different slants - not the whole truth. And
the anything other than the whole truth is not wholly
accurate. From my experience with understanding the
goals of these entities providing such transmissions
of information, it seems that most sto entities know
they can't transmit 100% truth due to the distortions
of language, culture, etc. So they go for a
perspective of the truth that will be beneficial to a
person at their level of growth at that time. Always,
always remember that the only real 100% truth is
within, past the distortions of time, space,
personality, etc. that truth normally has to navigate
to reach you in *any* sort of form, distorted or
otherwise.

I've never read cassiopaea, but I am inclined to
believe their 63% figure isn't too far off. Look at
how long it took Elkins to ask questions about really
important stuff, not UFOs and other periphery things.
Remember that Ra says that the accuracy is
proportional to the quality of the seeking. The more
profound questions of spiritual significance that
reflect a sincere seeking of unity are the most
conducive to accuracte transmissions. The more
distortions of understanding that a question reflects,
the less accurate it is likely to be, at least from a
unity point of view. As usual, the whole question of
accuracy depends on your point of view. It took L/L a
long time to gear up and understand what the real
seeking was supposed to entail, and notice that that
was also when the real psychic "greetings" started
happening (see book 5). So my view is that 63% is
certainly a possible figure, although there's no
really quantifiable way to back that up (Hold up; is
this cassiopaea thing the channelled work where they
gague the accuracy rate of a channelled sentence by
how many of the words are accurate, inaccurate, and
neutral? Because I've read that before and always
thought that was a really lame piece of universal
wisdom :-). However, assuming for a moment that the
figure is accurate, I'm inclined to believe that 63%
is not neccessarily a bad figure. It seems like it
would be better than most other channeling. My
opinion only.

Later,

Jeremy

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David Wilcock

11-08-2001, 10:39 AM

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>There is something wrong with a list that will not tolerate discussion
of other "truths".

Those who join this list know what the topics of discussion are when they
come in. It is also well-known to older members that we're really trying to
veer away from the myriad channeled speculations being released on the Net
by various parties at this time. Perhaps I should state that even more
clearly in the forum discussion guidelines.

Intuitively-revealed sources that have proven useful to some degree so far
include the following:

+ Ancient wisdom and sacred texts from many cross-cultural sources including
Hindu Vedas, Buddhist, Taoist, shamanistic, Judeo-Christian, Moslem, etc.

+ Prophecies of Mother Shipton and Nostradamus

+ Prophecies of St. Malachy, Fatima and other Christian saints

+ Prophecies of ancient cultures such as the Hopi, Maya, Iroquois, etc.

+ The "Oahspe" writings from 1888, regarding cosmology and physics

+ The "Dweller on Two Planets" and its sequel (automatic-writing re
Atlantis)

+ Blavatsky, Bailey, Rudolf Steiner, Gurdjeff, Ouspensky

+ Dr. Walter Russell, "The Secret of Light," etc.

+ The Edgar Cayce readings

+ The little-known Louise Morse readings (not available in print - I know
the woman who has a giant box full of these volumes)

+ The Seth series by Jane Roberts, esp. the earlier works

+ "URI" by Andrija Puharich

+ The Carlos Castenada series (knowing that inaccuracies exist)

+ The Ra series 1981-1984

+ "The Starseed Transmissions" by Ken Carey

+ The "Journeys" series by Robert Monroe

+ The "Watchers" series by Raymond Fowler and Betty Andreasson

+ Shakti Gawain: "Creative Visualization," "Living in the Light," etc.

+ "Conversations with Nostradamus" series and others by Dolores Cannon

+ "We the Arcturians" by Dr. Norma Milanovich

+ "The Seat of the Soul" by Gary Zukav

+ "Songs of the Arcturians" by Patricia Pereira (does contain certain
distortions but overall very beautifully written and truthful)

+ The Wilcock readings online (my own finest work, culled from the files)

+ "Conversations with God" series by Neale Donald Walsch

+ "An Ascension Handbook" by Tony Stubbs

+ "The Four Agreements" by Don Miguel Ruiz

+ "Relationship Rescue" by Dr. Phil McGraw (disguised but very useful)

The above have all proven themselves undistorted enough to be useful, and
often tie in many points that can be later revealed through scientific
inquiry. There is a "grain" that can be followed throughout them, wherein
there aren't many deviations that occur from one point to another. The main
bone of contention is with sources such as "zetatalk" that have such clear
indications of distortion. A number of points in study of the Cassiopeia
material have been found that fit in with Ra's definition of STS.

So, we did have a discussion and the question was answered. I don't cast
opinions out blindly and based on only a cursory analysis, and as
"mudpuppyman" just indicated, most list participants are interested in my
assessments. The main problem is with people who act out once I state an
assessment and disrupt the harmony of the group and / or wage a campaign to
send my opinions to the parties I mentioned.

Because of my position online, I doubt that anyone will send me a link to
material that I haven't already been referred to many times before. But with
the above list and other historical favorites that I may not have caught,
there is certainly no lack of material to be studied.

A review of the Four Agreements is in order if you are to establish a voice
as spokesperson for a set of spiritually-oriented material.

Peace be with you -

- David

theodorepong

11-08-2001, 04:37 PM

--- In asc2k@y..., "David Wilcock" <djw333@e...> wrote:
> From: frm@h... [mailto:frm@h...]
>
> >There is something wrong with a list that will not tolerate
discussion
> of other "truths".
>
> Those who join this list know what the topics of discussion are when
they
> come in. It is also well-known to older members that we're really
trying to
> veer away from the myriad channeled speculations being released on
the Net
> by various parties at this time. Perhaps I should state that even
more
> clearly in the forum discussion guidelines.
>
> Intuitively-revealed sources that have proven useful to some degree
so far
> include the following:
>

Impressive list, David. One of those happened to be my first exposure
to the path and just hearing the name brings fond memories.

Just as a great city will have many roads that lead to it, so will
the "Truth".
Buddha said there are only two wrong paths you may take.....not
starting or stopping too soon.

Been a pleasure. ;)

Crasher2ooo@...

05-15-2002, 12:23 AM

Mary Jo...

Took your guidance and am currently reading through The Wave articles...
havent finished them yet so cant give my opinion on them... they are an
enjoyable and interesting read though, ill tell you what I think once I get
through it all.

Robin.