The Oahspe??

[Mr.Moor]

Ra is asked about other Channeled Books
like Seth (whom they seem to regard as an entity who was somewhat confussed) and The Oahspe (which Ra states was sent by a member of the Council and a fellow brother of sorrow.) I was given an old copy of the Oahspe and find it very interesting. Has anyone else come across this text?
Or am I just late?
Oneness!
~Moor 7.

[billybobbutterball]

Ra is asked about other Channeled Books
like Seth (whom they seem to regard as an entity who was somewhat confussed) and The Oahspe (which Ra states was sent by a member of the Council and a fellow brother of sorrow.) I was given an old copy of the Oahspe and find it very interesting. Has anyone else come across this text?
Or am I just late?
Oneness!
~Moor 7.

Hi, Mr. Moor ... ( Oh no!) Mr. Bill here.:)

Your comments above renewed my interest in the work. (hey! As an aside I couldn't find a reference for Seth being confused, but rather a reader of his message )

I don't know what to make of Oahspe. I found when skimming through parts of it some years ago it didn't resonate well with me, and that reaction surprised me as I had expected otherwise. I confess that some of the astronomical/astrological illustrations merely confused me. I have a dim vision of some drawings of heirarchies described as powers and residing in abodes.... I would need to check it out again. Maybe I'm mixed up with something else.

The following is a sample of the type of psuedo-biblical spin that causes me some cognitive dissonance:

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Oahspe states that:

"Man was helpless [and] understood not the voice of the Almighty, neither stood he upright. And Jehovih called His angels ... and He said unto them: 'Go ye, raise man upright and teach him to understand.'"17

The angelic ministry among humanity was disrupted by the appearance of a Beast. The words of the Beast are those of Jesus in Matthew 10:34-36: "Think not I am come to send peace on the earth; I come not to send peace, but a sword; I come to set man at variance against his father; and a daughter against her mother."18 The Beast divided itself into four Heads "and possessed the earth about, and man fell down and worshipped them."19 The names of the Heads were Brahmin, Buddhist, Christian, and Mohammedan. Each Head had its own army and their "trade was killing man."20

To end the violence and confusion which was perpetrated by the Beast, Jehovih sent His angels to earth. He proclaimed that:

"The four Heads of the Beast shall be put down; and war shall be no more on the earth. Thy armies shall be disbanded. And, from this time forth, whosoever desireth not to war, thou shalt not impress; for it is the commandment of thy Creator.

Neither shalt thou have any God, nor Lord, nor Saviour, but only thy Creator, Jehovih! Him only shalt thou worship henceforth forevermore."21

[snip]

For a less flattering view of "Jehovah" and his mixed identity please check out ScottMandelker.com and read the five part section on Gnostics.

...and since when is the genderless, undifferentiated "One Creator" called, Him?The image of this "Jehovih" that comes to my mind is of some old guy with a white beard sitting up in the sky on golden throne thing. :p It doesn't mix well with my inner vision concepts birthed out of the Ra material.

For me it seems a mixed bag.

billious g.

[addalight]

In reference to your "psuedo biblical spin" :
Speaking in King James english has always been an immediate turnoff for me. This isn't a very good translation anyway.
Why would anyone speak in King James english; it just makes it less authentic and doesn't have anything to do with Jesus.

[johnasmodeus]

You can download Oahspe as a pdf. Just Google it.

I like reading it (in small doses) from time to time. Most of it seems inaccessible, but the parts about warring gods really piqued my interest. Also, it seems odd that Ra would seem to endorse a work that refutes reincarnation. Although that could just be one of the "distortions" Ra said were incorporated into it.

Who knows?

[billybobbutterball]

You can download Oahspe as a pdf. Just Google it.

I like reading it (in small doses) from time to time. Most of it seems inaccessible, but the parts about warring gods really piqued my interest. Also, it seems odd that Ra would seem to endorse a work that refutes reincarnation. Although that could just be one of the "distortions" Ra said were incorporated into it.

Who knows?


Hi, Modeus

Ra merely says that the Oasphe was passed by the "commision" when it was presented to them. The Urantia work was not "passed" by the council but it occurs to me that doesn't automatically default to a rejection since it might not have even been presented to the commision ... It was after all the creation of concerned, inner-planes entities of unstated density.

I get the feeling that literal truth -- as we think of it -- is not all that easy to present; too many timelines, thought forms etc.. Also, literal truth may not be all that effective compared to a tailored 'myth' that might drive the spiritual lesson home to a much deeper level.

I've been digging around a bit and keep running into information underlining the VITAL importance of the veil of forgetfulness in regards to our spiritual advancement.

I keep on trying to pierce this darn veil to learn more ...which effort, if succesful, might really be contra-productive through the seemingly innocent fact of finding out too much! If we "know" too much then our positive actions are of lessened benefit ... sort of a spiritual catch 22! We best learn spiritual lessons generated by a struggle within our naive being, and not by learning of them second hand in an intellectual classroom. So, in a real sense, the dumber we are -- yet somehow we can still struggle and reach some light -- the greater the "reward".

Well, heck, I still want to find out things!...Drat! torpedoed and sunk to the bottom by the horrible sin of inquisitiveness.:(

from llresearch

Ra: I am Ra. This (Oasphe) was transmitted by one of Confederation social memory complex status whose idea, as offered to the Council, was to use some of the known physical history of the so-called religions or religious distortions of your cycle in order to veil and partially unveil aspects or primal distortions of the Law of One. All names can be taken to be created for their vibrational characteristics. The information buried within has to do with a deeper understanding of love and light, and the attempts of infinite intelligence through many messengers to teach/learn those entities of your sphere.

best, etc. billyblasted

[soup]

...in order to veil and partially unveil aspects or primal distortions of the Law of One...

I wonder if the same could be said for the Ra materials...and then I wonder what the intent of both veiling and unveiling lends to such sharing, as if there seems merit in both confusing one thing and clarifying another.


soup

[soup]

The idea of clarifying one thing and confusing another seems to relate to some nature of questioning and answering, as if the greater purpose may be simply engaging in such dialogs.

Do you think the exercise of questioning and finding answers may be more important than whatever transient clarity or confusion comes as its result?


soup