Mark of the beast!

[David1111]

Hello all!

I'm looking for more info on what david called "the mark of the beast" He said it is when your 3rd eye is off that you have the mark" I've had my 3rd eye turn on for about 2-4 days then turn off. I think it turned off do to fear. My sisters 3rd eye is still on and shes freaking out about it. What books can I read to get more info on this. I've been dreaming about the tree of life and I think I've been dreaming about my higher self. I was flying around in my dreams wearing all white with a white cloth over my shoulder with blue writing on it. I aslo saw the tree of life. It was carved out from a wall and it was all white with blue water at the base. the roots and tree where all white and when I picked up some of the water it fell through my hands and turned into lil blue spiders and crawled back into the main body of water. It looked like the water was running low. My sister and I can see live video in our heads and she can see with her eyes closed sometimes. Two nights ago I was asked by a tale white female alien (her skin was made out of candle wax looking stuff) if i wanted to visit her home world. I got a lil scared in this lucid dream and woke up. Now all I feel is like 2 magnets fighting on the top of my head. I don't medate or anything. This all started for me when I forgave my self for doing something in the pass. Also my son says he sees a clear number 4 on my head. I keep seeing 1111 444 a lot. Woops this got to personal... I really just need to know is this normal 3rd eye stuff or something else. I need to help my sister and a few others around me. People around me are jumping out of their bodies sometimes. I know how all this sounds but after watching the videos David made really made me clam. So I know what he says must be true. If I would have seen the videos before my 3rd eye came on I would have thought he went nuts and was just making this stuff up. But he isn't this is all real for me. 100% real....
It would be nice to have a friend that is going through this and knows how to handle it better than I do.. I just cry a lot and stay inside. I could write a book about all the strange things i've done over my life time... but whats happing now is really off the hook. I can't stop lucid dreaming. And sometimes I hear a female voice call my name. Me and my sister keep seeing shadow people and they will touch us and sit on the bed. They don't hurt us but it's a little strange when this happens to you. Sometimes I just fake like I'm sleep until they go away. Also I can remember jumping through a ring of fire to get here. If that helps anyone out a bit.

well I hope I didn't post this in the wrong spot. I'm not looking for help from david. I just need a safe place to vent.

As sure as you can see me, Is as sure as I can see you, is all the fact we need to know that god is real.

-peace

ps sorry for the way I type n stuff. It's hard to think when you have something turning and hurting on the top of your head.

[MarkM]

Dear David

...Wow, all I can say is this must be very disconcerting for you. I've never had such things happen to me, at least not with nearly the intensity as you and those around you are having.

While reading your post, I am reminded of the concept of soul groups that incarnate together for a shared purpose in 'consecutive' lifetimes. I can sense that this is perhaps an issue which you all may need to work through together.

The opening of the third eye is usually associated with the lifting of the veil of forgetfulness, which generally acts as a boundary between space/time, or the normal 3D world that you're accustomed to, and the realm of time/space, associated with the spirit realms of earth, and the dream landscape we visit while we're asleep.

It must be a shocking experience to have this happen to you, and I expect this is something that many of us will experience in the next few years to come.

I recall being on ice skates for the first time as a child, being extremely unsteady and out of control at first, and in need of a firm, guiding hand to avoid landing flat on my ass. I might offer that you request of your own higher self and your own helping guides from the higher planes to help mitigate and moderate these experiences with you, and to back you up as you offer love to any unwelcome visitors as you respectfully ask that they respect your need for privacy. Depending on your preference, perhaps do so while mindful of whatever symbol of higher spiritual authority you may happen to hold as yours, whether Jesus, God, the One infinite Creator, Buddha or what have you.

Perhaps sit in a meditative circle with those around you similarly affected, decide on some mutually satisfying positive affirmations and an invocation of mutually agreed on positive and helping entities and practice working with these new abilities, small baby steps at first, with protection, and work at gaining the ability to have more personal control over your experiences.

I know it's easy for me to say, but try not to be fearful; you are experiencing that which is present around all of us, only you are able to sense it as most of us are less able to do.

I am sending you all loving, positive, and protecting energy, please stay positive and optimistic that you will find this eventually to be a blessing.

Loving feelings, Mark

[d. franz zzyrch clark]

Since I am not a bible expert,I cannot say precisely where there is a reference-I guess in the new testament- to the third eye...stating something about the daystar being opened in your heart.Maybe a computer seach of the word 'daystar' would yield the particular verse in question.I'll add here that there is various degrees of the third eye being open.The highest could lead to a complete negation of appetite &/or body sensation.If you have a job or responsibilities this might not seem the wisest thing to do...

[billybobbutterball]

Since I am not a bible expert,I cannot say precisely where there is a reference-I guess in the new testament- to the third eye...stating something about the daystar being opened in your heart.Maybe a computer seach of the word 'daystar' would yield the particular verse in question.I'll add here that there is various degrees of the third eye being open.The highest could lead to a complete negation of appetite &/or body sensation.If you have a job or responsibilities this might not seem the wisest thing to do...

Hmm. There may be some confusion here between a supposed "third eye" and Paul's account of being caught up in a "third heaven". Hey! Any Christian claiming to have a third eye would be quickly burned to a crisp at the stake; well, considering this enlightened day and age, maybe just a bit toasted until browned around the edges :(

billyparboiled

[Ewhaz]

Well wow, I really wish there was some way to help you directly, but I suppose I'll just have to settle for offering you a prayer and what energy I can send your way.

As far as the 'mark of the beast' Edgar Cayce's idea of what it meant was when some one was opperating in the lower chakra's. That is to say, the earthly or physical chakra's that deal with the animal body. The three lower one's deal with the physical self and the physical world, the heart chakra is in the middle, and then the three upper chakras where where the spiritual aspects where dealt with. Some one with this mark would be ruled by the lower chakra's without any influence from their upper one's. So in a way it would also agree With DW idea of having the 3rd eye turned off.

Your situation seems a bit extream though, a sudden 'on' switch of your third eye and in full blaze too. There may be a few things you can try. According to Robert Bryce, (astral dynamics) To shut down chakra's you simply have to focus on the physical world. He would slap his hands togerther, get his focus on his physical body instead of his etheric body and as long as he didn't do anything to engage them, they would close on their own. You can also try praying for protection and help from Higher beings. This may just be them trying to get a hold of you..

Either way, what is important is to trust that you will not be given more than you can handle and that there is a purpose behind what you are going through. Trust yourself, trust your higher intuition and God to help you through this. My prayers are with you.

If you've seen the movie 6th sense, where the child is able to see dead people. At first things seem very bad, very angry, he's not sure how to deal with it. In the end, he finds out that his purpose is to help them resolve issues they had in the waking life. Until he embraced his purpose he wasn't sure what was happening or how to deal with it.

The things that are visiting you may seem strange simply because your afraid of them. Try talking to them and embracing them in love, if your doing so in love and with the protection of your higher helpers, they cannot hurt you. I have a feeling they don't want to. If they do, most likely they are just feeding off your fear and the second you loose it, they will loose interest as well.

As far as your dreams, go to the announcements board and you will see a post on how to interpret your dreams. You have a lot of imagery that I think you can interpret from his post.

BLUE: (can be baby blue to darker shades Communication and wisdom. How well do you communicate. Do you speak your truth to others or do you stifle your emotions. How well do you communicate what is going on in your mind, your awareness and feelings? Are you seeking wisdom and actively applying what you know?

Be well, Be Blessed.

[d. franz zzyrch clark]

II Peter Chapter 1, verses 17 18 19 & 20

In verse 19 Peter makes an allusion to... 'day star arise in your hearts'

Here I believe he is just being rather poetic, & not addressing directly the matter of third-eye awakening.

[Nina]

Hi Everyone,
Wanted to add something in Cayce Revelation interpretation about Peter from Reading 281-37 Question asked, "To whom is John talking to here. Is it Peter?
Answer: That which is represented by Peter..."Flesh and blood hath not revealed this unto you but my father in heaven." All then , who do take what has been given as the example, as the pattern, as the manner of expression, as the acknowledgement of the activities within self, are in that position - that they have touched, do touch as it were the knowledge of God in that His ways, His laws, His love are not only a part of their individual lives but are by them manifested in their daily life, their daily conversation, as one to another.Yes, then , to the Peter in every experience of the body, the mind, the soul..." NINA

[johnasmodeus]

Wow. How did you turn it on?

I've heard voices calling my name before, either a woman's voice or the bell-voice I've read angels speak in, but never on a consistent basis.

Are you seeing auras?

[cricket]

I've had my 3rd eye switch on and off for the past couple years, and I've seen some pretty scary things! The trick is to have no fear. Dont second guess or over analyze what you're seeing. When Im lucid dreaming, or awake and I encounter something and I feel the fear creeping in, I take a deep inhale and exhale fast out through the heart chakra, almost like a propelling action, and blast them with love. Works every time.
Hope this helps!

[Ceara]

I've been a detailed-oriented person most of my life. But when it comes to spiritual stuff I learned this isn't the best thing for me to do, and instead enjoy the experiences as is and not try to nitpick some sort of literal meaning into everything. Whenever I did that, I only ended up disappointed and dissatisfied.

The disappointment also came whenever I listened too much to what others said about my experiences when I would make them public. I was desperate to understand what was happening to me and could not find any answer to appease my curiosity. No amount of terminology would do. I was looking for something deeper.

I found the deeper meanings after I had given up on naming my experiences based on others' teachings and suggestions. I was disappointed and literally gave up on figuring it out. It wasn't happening fast enough for my Western mind, used to having everything quickly.

Only then did I begin to understand. This understanding was a result of experiences I had over approximately two years. Gradually, the pieces of the puzzle began to fit together.

I'm at a loss for words here. I guess what I'm trying to say is that everyone's experiences are "tailor made" for each person. Nothing is given to you that would put you in overdrive or what you could not handle. Try to see a larger picture of everything that's happening to you and also try not to tie yourself down to definitions. Most experiences like these really cannot be identified in limiting language.

Rest assured whatever is happening to you is for a reason.

In the meantime read and research many things like chakras and energy. Study Wilcock's writings from the science end of it all. Keep open minded and don't attach yourself to any one thing.

Everyone is different but some of the information that helped me the most were the scientific studies of energy and how everything is connected. I think perhaps there might be a link somewhere on the forum for a video "Thunderbolts of the Gods." It's available for free on Google video website.

Try this link http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/showpost.php?p=20569&postcount=7

And if that link doesn't work, look under the "New Sciences" section in this forum. Or do a search for Thunderbolts.

Although chakras are energy centers, I also believe they are like antennas, always connected to the fields of energy out there. And whenever we do have experiences, it's like saying your antenna went out there, tuned into the right frequency or station and received a broadcast. Everyone can do this.

Pay attention to synchronicity in your life. I've lost count over how many times I wished to understand something more fully, only to have information "suddenly" come to me via forums, MSN messenger tells from friends sharing web links (as I type this I just received some new links), TV shows, magazines and newspapers. My latest thing with this is funny. I wanted to crochet a poncho for myself to have for the coming winter and had difficulty understanding a pattern because there was no 3D image and only a cruddy, fuzzy 2D line drawing. I'd crochet and pull apart my pattern in confusion and frustration several times. My husband thought I was nuts for undoing all that work. Then low and behold, I see a woman in the grocery store that I've never seen before (small town) and she was wearing a poncho sewn together in the exact way I wanted to see it. Click! Suddenly I understood the pattern. No way that can be passed off as only coincidence.

So, just be open and pay attention to these little things, no matter how mundane. Not everything is a huge, moving, highly spiritual moment. I've discovered that noticing my emotions and studying the feelings (energy) from those mundane moments have allowed me easier access when putting my "antenna" out there. It's like a form of practice I guess. After all you can't ride a bicycle after only reading a book about it - right? You gotta get out there and see how it feels. And no book can explain that to you in words.

:)

[David1111]

Wow. How did you turn it on?

I've heard voices calling my name before, either a woman's voice or the bell-voice I've read angels speak in, but never on a consistent basis.

Are you seeing auras?

I didn't think people would write back. WOW

I didn't try to cut this on. It just came on.
It was very hard to deal with. Truth is not always what we expect.

Right now my dreams are telling me to let go of things and getting ready for change.

[Vrash]

A week ago I had a wierd day. I was getting a lill obsessed over a few spiritual details and was, i think, about to take a wrong turn. So this seemingly normal day I go to a ATM checking my account balance. And I had exactly 666, well NOK, in my case. But the number flashed right in my face and I realise I'm not doing what I should be doing. The day kept on going and I saw the same number stick out from wierd locations.. leaving me very puzzled.

I calmed myself down and thought I had to research this a little bit before I start making wierd theories. And then I found this thread among other "evidence". :) Did the necessary adjustments. :P And it all makes sense now, I feel back on track.

Still a newbie at this all this stuff and I dont understand half of it. But that's what beeing young is all about I guess.

Cheers. Simon. ^^

[mmariebored]

The term "mark of the beast" has been used in so many ways and I believe, though I could be wrong, that what David was trying to say was that people who have their feet planted solidly in the material world and dismiss anything spiritual as baloney, have the "mark of the beast", and he blamed this primarily on calcification of the peneal gland(?) or lack of use.

I always felt that the term meant people who were headed down the negative path and had a negative "aura" which actually attracts more negative to them like a "black hole". It would almost seem to them that they were "marked" as a target for harm and bad luck when in reality it's something they could easily fix if they chose to. The Revelation use of this term, mark of the beast, finalized the "doom" of the mark and I believe this is an incorrect fear tactic, often found in "prophetic" books.

[BenOne]

On the subject of the number 666. The Revelation (or dream) John had of Jesus is where this is mentioned. The book states that a dragon gives life to an image of a beast and this beast forces everyone to recieve the mark.

The mark is said to be "in" the forehead (3rd eye) or "in" the right hand.
And is either a mark, name or number "counted to be 666"
This mark is neccessary to buy and sell in this vision.
Those who do not worship are killed.

At this point in the vision there are already great powers of spirituallity, beings from space(heavens), earth changes that occur before the mark.

The story says that the "lamb" and his followers also have a mark, the "Fathers" name, on there forehead.

I can see the mark of the beast as something that is added to block our 3rd eye functions. Make us drones. This is done with flouride effectivally by the way. Flouride builds up in you Pineal Gland. This is because the gland is a calcified tissue containing a form of calcium that is very dense but fleshy. The gland contains more calcium per weight than any other part of your body. Your Pineal Gland is in the geographic center of your head and is in line with your crown and 3rd eye chakras.

Evidence of Flouride effects can be seen with Prozac which is Flouride based.

I think the most likely product to become the mark of the beast would be an RF Chip with Nano Technology. These would contain account info for use in buying and selling, medical info like immunizations, location, security, and identity.

In my opinion what you have is an open 3rd eye, freind. You have a new tool, you just need to learn how to use it. Practice. Whatever you want, intend it and enjoy it. Use it for GOOD.

Report your abilities and techniques. Your vibration is in your words. Share it.
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[mmariebored]

The mark is said to be "in" the forehead (3rd eye) or "in" the right hand.
And is either a mark, name or number "counted to be 666"
This mark is neccessary to buy and sell in this vision.

This is exactly why the "mark" cannot mean calcification of the peneal gland. Because they said "OR". Meaning it can be in either or. The peneal gland can only be in one place but clearly this "mark" can be in two. It doesn't say there are two types of mark, other than the "good" mark from the lamb, so we've established that whatever "it" is can be in the hand as well as the head. That takes peneal calcification off the list of possibilities.

Those who do not worship are killed.

I assume you meant verse 15 here.
Revelation 13:15-20 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2013:15-20;&version=31;)
15)He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.
16)He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,
17)so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18)This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.

These verses say the mark can be in either the hand or the head and without it you won't be able to buy or sell. How would one be able to tell who's peneal gland is calicified and whose is not, to prevent or enable them to by and sell? You could say an X-ray machine but then, how will they prosecute a person for not having a certain amount of white on the black screen and would it depend on age, diet, body chemisty exercise etc.?

That's all I was saying, that it makes no logical sense for it to be the peneal gland.

And even if you say the mark is either the name or the number, they'd have to be able to perform the same function.

I can see the mark of the beast as something that is added to block our 3rd eye functions. Make us drones.

Don't you mean IF there's any truth to Revelation?
Whoever wrote that book made God out to be a monster. Example:
9)..."If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand,
10)he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.
11)And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."

I wouldn't even want to be in a "Heaven" with a God who would carry out this horror. It's all a lie written by someone in a great deal of mental anguish and he does not represent a "good" entity from the "heavens".
The only crime being punished is reciving a mark on the hand or forehead? Doesn't it seem like there's something wrong with that? Especially since 19:20 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&chapter=19&verse=20&version=31&context=verse) clearly states that the people were tricked and decieved into recieving it, this includes children and everyone all over the planet who do not have the internet or Bible warning them to sit tight and await their deaths for not getting the mark, oh but, they'll get a reward in Heaven. Still think this is legit info and not fear tactic created by a suffering mind? Even Ra said there are bad entities with "distorted" info, we have to use our own logic to discover truth from ficticious horror stories.


I think the most likely product to become the mark of the beast would be an RF Chip with Nano Technology. These would contain account info for use in buying and selling, medical info like immunizations, location, security, and identity.

This would make more sense -but- warning that this is a bad thing makes no sense because it could end up being manditory like a birth certificate or SS number and warning people it's "evil" will create a panic when it arrives. Whoever does NOT recieve it will OF COURSE die because buying and selling is how you eat food and if you don't eat you will starve to death.
An EVIL entity would know all of this and plan ahead for this future form of population control on a rapidly growing planet. Open your eyes.

[BenOne]

The story in the Holy Bible named "Revelations" or the vision of John needs to be taken for what it is. A vision, like all people experience; selected, translated, ?altered?, by the Roman Government. Acurate? who knows? No where else that I have seen is this marking referenced.

However, if this is a legitimate view into the future, than here are things to watch for. If it doesn't happen, even better.

We are all marked already with Birth Certs, SS Card, Drivers License, Passports (w/RFID), without these it would be difficult to find employment or drive to the store. In the 2000 year old vision, this tagging of people was hardwired so to speak.

Who needs biometric data on a card if the card is in you?

By all means, hope for the best, if this person saw the future this is my interpretation and a today based reflection. The main purpose of expounding on this issue is to let people know that when there 3rd eyes become visible, sing hallellujah. You are not marked by evil. You are remembering abilities.

The mark, if there is one, is by choice. It would probably require signing a contract, too.

I wouldn't even want to be in a "Heaven" with a God who would carry out this horror.

So true, who wants a God that creates suffering? Yet people suffer. Is this God's fault? People seem to give all the credit to God for the good's and bad's in life. Rather it is we who manifest the good's and bad's in life. God is the Power we have to create. If the author of the story is the kind of person who see's a tornado as punishment by God; then anything bad that happens will be God seeking revenge rather than a consequence of choices.

Take the story in equal light as any. I however like the part where Good triumphs over Evil.

And to the original author of this thread David111: Ask your kid who can see you 3rd eye to draw what it looks like. You mentioned they said it looked like a four. Would that be like an upside down " h " or " 4 " ?

[mmariebored]

So true, who wants a God that creates suffering? Yet people suffer. Is this God's fault? People seem to give all the credit to God for the good's and bad's in life. Rather it is we who manifest the good's and bad's in life. God is the Power we have to create. If the author of the story is the kind of person who see's a tornado as punishment by God; then anything bad that happens will be God seeking revenge rather than a consequence of choices.

There are many stories written that teach, some even prophesy, this is fine, wonderful, but don't claim it was written by God and call it "holy" because this is a lie used to control people, which is one of the greatest "sins" you can commit. I like how George Lucas put it, "The book wrote itself." Plain and simple, not claiming to be a messenger of "God", pointing a finger of commandment to the masses. He gave credit where credit was due, admittedly to an unknown source, and he was "blessed" because of it.
(as opposed to stoned to death or eaten by lions or boiled in oil)

The mark, if there is one, is by choice. It would probably require signing a contract, too.

Like everything, it will be by "choice", the other option will be to not be able to function on the planet like the rest of the people who have it. How does that make it "evil"? What would be "evil" about having your ID inside of you as opposed to on the outside, like a SS card or birth certificate?

This is where the logic fails that this "mark of the beast" is anything but a fear tactic, made up by entities who've no doubt witnessed other planet's technological evolution, and planned on using this information as a means of population control via fear, misery and chaos.

I can remember reading archives of information about groups of religious people refusing to get a social security card because everyone in their group believed it was the "mark of the beast". Like most successful lies, this one keeps being recycled, as "predicted".