confederation of planets forcing us?

[lucia]

Do you get the feeling when reading the Loo that the purpose of Ra & the confederation is to force the completion of Human Evolution,and there by save it from destroying itself.Lets just say to do so they have to breakdown the human barrier ego shield (Bes).Every being has this shield it is the wall that seperates one's identity from other ego's & external reality & supports one having an existence seperate from others.It is the wall that surrounds a persons soul.Because of this wall we experience the pain of loneliness, but the closer we are to others the more we experience hurt.
If the federation were able to neutralize the shield of all human beings would we return to a indifferentiated state? Lets call this state, the consciousness
field of radiant mind energy,which we are composed of (we only have form as seperate entities by our own individual barrier ego shield ) so when all individuals ego shield collapses the body formed by that shield dissolves back into radiant mind energy which could be then united in a/the supreme being which is,the next stage of humanity,ending all conflict, loneliness & pain brought about by individual existence. Food 4 thought!! LUCIA .

[billybobbutterball]

Do you get the feeling when reading the Loo that the purpose of Ra & the confederation is to force the completion of Human Evolution,and there by save it from destroying itself.Lets just say to do so they have to breakdown the human barrier ego shield (Bes).Every being has this shield it is the wall that seperates one's identity from other ego's & external reality & supports one having an existence seperate from others.It is the wall that surrounds a persons soul.Because of this wall we experience the pain of loneliness, but the closer we are to others the more we experience hurt.
If the federation were able to neutralize the shield of all human beings would we return to a indifferentiated state? Lets call this state, the consciousness
field of radiant mind energy,which we are composed of (we only have form as seperate entities by our own individual barrier ego shield ) so when all individuals ego shield collapses the body formed by that shield dissolves back into radiant mind energy which could be then united in a/the supreme being which is,the next stage of humanity,ending all conflict, loneliness & pain brought about by individual existence. Food 4 thought!! LUCIA .

Hi, Lucia

I can appreciate your insight but, no, the federation isn't trying to force anything -- unless they are actually secretly composed of negative entities. :eek:! Keep in mind that The RA stated something to the effect that they themselves are hot on the trail of advancing to the 7th density and should be there in short order -- which translates to something like 1.5 million of our 3-D years. :rolleyes:

We are being protected on our most carefully designed, necessary and worthwhile journey ... and it would be disasterous for us to be catapulted into densities we are not ready for. Before we we reach an undifferentiated state we have the task of accumulating experiences gained in this finite cosmos school of learning. We are all individualized aspects of the infinite Creator sent to explore ALL potentialities of the finite universe. Being simply "saved" and handed a paper-mill diploma would short-circuit and defeat the purpose -- and that just won't do! :( Like it or not the Law of Confusion, of Forgetfullness, of Free Will, etc. are all meant to be there for good reasons.)

Besides the wonderful material available here on Divine Cosmos I would recommend Carla Ruekert's fabulous work of love, "A Wanderer's Handbook". (LLResearch.org) To help flesh out the Ra material there is what I have described elsewhere on this site as a "romanticized" version of the Ra philosophy of religion to be found in Ken Carey's "The Third Millenium" (Amazon) (there are some differences that I question, but on the whole it fits well) Both of these works benefit from multiple readings ... at least my brain couldn't pick up all the nuances at first exposure -- Of course with a name like billybobbutterball it should be obvious that I'm intellectually challenged.

Hmm? I guess I could have been named "Sue".

Best!

[lucia]

Hi, Lucia

I can appreciate your insight but, no, the federation isn't trying to force anything -- unless they are actually secretly composed of negative entities. :eek:! Keep in mind that The RA stated something to the effect that they themselves are hot on the trail of advancing to the 7th density and should be there in short order -- which translates to something like 1.5 million of our 3-D years. :rolleyes:

We are being protected on our most carefully designed, necessary and worthwhile journey ... and it would be disasterous for us to be catapulted into densities we are not ready for. Before we we reach an undifferentiated state we have the task of accumulating experiences gained in this finite cosmos school of learning. We are all individualized aspects of the infinite Creator sent to explore ALL potentialities of the finite universe. Being simply "saved" and handed a paper-mill diploma would short-circuit and defeat the purpose -- and that just won't do! :( Like it or not the Law of Confusion, of Forgetfullness, of Free Will, etc. are all meant to be there for good reasons.)

Besides the wonderful material available here on Divine Cosmos I would recommend Carla Ruekert's fabulous work of love, "A Wanderer's Handbook". (LLResearch.org) To help flesh out the Ra material there is what I have described elsewhere on this site as a "romanticized" version of the Ra philosophy of religion to be found in Ken Carey's "The Third Millenium" (Amazon) (there are some differences that I question, but on the whole it fits well) Both of these works benefit from multiple readings ... at least my brain couldn't pick up all the nuances at first exposure -- Of course with a name like billybobbutterball it should be obvious that I'm intellectually challenged.

Hmm? I guess I could have been named "Sue".

Best!
Hi Bilybob,
Thanks for your considerate reply & reading recommendations, I guess I was experiencing a negative trail of thought,I cannot believe I actually posted it. Anyway rest assured this ridiculous insight is dead & buried.
Always with love Lucia.
PS.BIllysue is kinda cute!

[soup]

Maybe there is some element of freewill with something like "a confederation of planets" that may be acting upon some desire. I wonder what such a desire might be. Possibly there's some chance of mutual benefit to be gained by outreaching in some way - as opposed to doing nothing. Possibly as with any action/reaction interplay there's some chance of influencing or co-creating something that offers something beneficial. I wonder what that something might be and what it may offer. Possibly by such interactions there's some displacement of less desireable consequences, though difficult to describe specifically as that generalization seems all that comes to mind at the moment.


soup

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

I think it's about pointing things out without too much interferance. Those of RA are being extreemly vigilant this time around. I too suspect that this shift is unique compared to previous endeavors. If we only new the circumstances involved on other planes, I suspect this is just the tip of the iceburg. For them to be able to reach us says alot about their commitments and values. They probably had to fight to get the position and probably need to fight to protect the connection and to protect us from negative greetings balancing out their contact.

If the federation were able to neutralize the shield of all human beings would we return to a indifferentiated state? Lets call this state, the consciousness

Hi Lucia, I think the Idea is to simply recognise, once and for all, the pitfalls and advantages of perceiving the ego. In 3D RA is sort of pointing it out, we are getting ready to make a choice, and to hold that choice accountable we are acquainted with the ego. That is the minimum requirement to be introduced to 4D. To me the neutralization is left to the individual and is to be carried over with us through the Octave. Instead of having the ego tugging us along by the leash, we will slowly learn how to safely attach it to our toolbelt and treat it as such.................Sylvain.....................

[mellisamouse]

Mabey they heard century after century of prayers, observed, and at the right time stepped in to help, because we were finally ready, (a small few at first, still not the majority) to understand how we could BE helped and become a catalys for the answering of our own prayers?

They didn't give us a fish, but figured we were ready to learn how to go fishing ourselves?

(as usual, this is just a specualtion..... thought that popped into my head, so JUST my personal opinion, lol) ;)

[Yusuf]

I have spent my life searching for answers to life the universe and everything. I have made progress over the years. There are periods when I coast along making little or no progress then something comes along and sets me off into a new time of progress.
Awhile ago I was in a coasting period when I came across David's writings and from there to LoO.
The Ra federation has not forced me to do anything but ,through the information they have made available, they have awakened a desire in me to go forward. This desire now is so strong it sometimes nearly overwhelmes me.
They do not force anybody into anything but the knowledge and information they bring can bring people together with similar desires to progress further at a faster rate than they would normally achieve.
In this way they assist us enormously.

Peace and love to you all

Yusuf

[soup]

I don't seem to have any overwhelming desires nor any sense of being manipulated by desire. I do seem to arrive at places in my life with choices where I intuitively draw blanks - as if my choices are just that, my choices and nobody elses. Here I can better take responsibility for my circumstances without say blamining someone else for how it is with me - because it was so many of these choices of mine that delivered me here. Anyhow, I will admit that I seem to have grown more perceptive to seeing how an increasing amount of weight placed upon degrees of "service to others" within my decisions and with that there seems to come some grace by that.


soup

[soup]

...If the federation were able to neutralize the shield of all human beings would we return to a indifferentiated state?...

It may be that each lifeform or species has its gifts and limitations. Possibly these limitations, such as finite comprehension or else a veiled awareness, can be in some regard considered as built in protective buffer mechanisms that help prevent injury.

There seem many examples of vehicles in society, "the machine" as vehicle or else a metaphor to the body. I'm not convinced that "the human body" is the ultimate machine - but consider that learning by way of human experience may be helpful in navigating some greater machine out there, or else be helpful in participating in mechanical compositions of some sort or another.

If a computer could act as metaphor to a human being, then what would a computer internet act as metaphor to in analogy? In other words, what has to happen for a group to transcend the limits of their individuality?


soup