DW on Project Camelot [Archive] - Divine Cosmos Discussions

soup

08-26-2007, 12:11 AM

Thanks for posting videos of DW. Since i've never met DW or ever seen him speak, it was a pleasure to receive words from him this way. Long ago i imagined him a tireless orator and i very much admire that quality he shares here. I was very much touched by the statue of Sophia present. Thanks.

The point brought up of confronting one's shadow side seems to relate to the ideas about managing negative greetings in the growth to greater states of love/wisdom: it seems there comes a point of conscious decision to displace the less than benevolent with greater harmony.

It would seem as if such choice was a no-brainer, and maybe that's literally what it entails: short circuiting rational patterns (that no longer serve one well.) For example, the transformed Scrooge generously shares the fruits of his labors after years of less than generous activity: as if making peace and harmony with the realities at hand becomes most important. So we find ourselves doing things which by yesterday's logic would make no sense.

I can remember turningpoints in my life as retrospecting: "did i do the right thing?" Often times i'll find myself suggesting: "that old way of doing things was simply not good enough anymore." From there, it seems as if one's perspective can shift in a way in which the trade offs are weighed by a more advanced scale of measure - one of good vibrations.

Penny L

08-26-2007, 11:25 AM

Thanks for posting the links to these interviews. I've enjoyed and appreciate them greatly.

Penny

SuperManny

08-26-2007, 02:22 PM

Oh, by the way, are you going to need a transcriber? Here's a volunteer.

-Mark
I would love to see a transcript of this.
Some of us are still on dial-up!:(

dariusdjc

08-27-2007, 11:03 AM

Just my opinion but I thought it was the best interview I have seen anyone do with David. So many things were touched upon and discussed. They are truly wonderful videos to watch. Thanks DW and Project Camelot! Can't wait until convergence is released :)

billybobbutterball

08-29-2007, 02:19 AM

Hi guys.

billbob here

Listening to Burish and David for some 5 hours found my rear end dead to the world, but my mind ablaze with new life!

One comment that David made -- tho not surprising -- did set me aback.
I bring this point up in a private letter (below)to an individual on another site (the evolutionist,Richard Dawkins') where the thread has been concerned with Jesus as one of the line of solar deities. "Jerome" is probably the lone Christian standing against the crowd of rampaging atheists.

Hi, Jerome.

SNIP

When you can make some time there is an interesting 3-1/2 hour interview of David Wilcock on projectcamelot (org.) It is a good overview of his origin and activities, and an introduction to just what weird things are taking place at this time.

Here is something that would be of special interest to you as a staunch Anglican...I think it is in the third or fourth segment David mentions Jesus in connection with the Myths theory employed to expediently explain him away. What came across to David was the vision of some very dark and sinister figures connected with this myth idea. That negative report of course cuts across the grain of my precious thinking and will cause me to dig into the subject some more. The irony is that if I had complacently remained an orthodox Christian I would have never heard of David Wilcock nor all the neat Ra material stuff! ( I am reminded of the biblical comment : "They intended it for evil but God used it for good. ) The thing is that without the suspect divinity application laid across him, Jesus the man is not a proper object of worship -- and I don't think that the "Holy Spirit" is either since I would think it best classified as an attribute of God, not God. (of course I'm open to having my mind changed)

I do have resonance with the Suns of God hypothesis as presented by Acharya. In the Ra material it is disclosed that the particular style of creation is determined overall by individual galaxy entities guided somewhat by a "mandate" from the One Creator. At our solar system the immediate creative sub-logi is our sun. The earth entity has an important play as a sub-sub logi. (we as humans are also minor s.s.s logis whether or not we realize it ) Therefore it is understandable that the sun is well-mistaken as being the worthy object of worship ...and rather than being a primitive mistake in worshiping a mere lifeless thing it is actually not too far off! my favorite old dead guy guru, Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov, made an interesting observation concerning sun worship:

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailing@prosveta.com>
>
> "For us, the sun is the best representation of God, but you must
> carry out a great inner work with its image if this truth is to
> become instilled in you. You can observe the sun for years, but,
> until you feel that it vibrates, radiates and pulsates within
> you, it will remain foreign to you and will not speak to you. It
> will even be pointless to go and greet the rising sun. You will
> be warmed a little, invigorated a little, and you will receive a
> few calories, a few 'vitamins', but nothing more.
> By means of the physical sun, you must strive to find this inner
> sun, which is the sign that the Divinity dwells within you. And
> one day you will no longer need an intermediary between you and
> God, not even the sun. It is within you, in your inner sun, that
> you will find him."
>
> Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov

Later.

Sounds good to me...or am I off the RAlroad track?

bestest, billybob bronzedandcrispycrittered :)

SpiralCycle

08-29-2007, 02:24 AM

Ok WOW! this has taught me much more than i could have thought! this was my blessing for all my recent questions and am so greatful for the direction it has pointed me in especially about how being the negative explained in the last video creeps in silently and messes with your thoughts I was soooo curious about how things were mixed up in my ways and was led to only seeing some of the picture and wanted to dislike my higher guidance because they weren"t giving me all the answers i needed and i had great confirmation hahah my hot keys are not on because i wasn"t meant to send a message earlier so bear with me

ok i had three huge synchronisitys with this video one being that my brother "randomly" gave me a book earlier that showed on the front of the book the quote that david mentioned with something like after all that happened i still believe everyone has a good heart lol so i am a huge on truth and curiousity and this has been great because all i wanted to know was the spiritual realm described in books such as journey as the soul and others denied some of davids work or did not collaborate with it well and i tried soooooooo hard to find all the bridges

i have also been on a trial of trust and listening to higher messages and don"t always like them because they don"t agree with my puny human logic and i get frustrated saying things like if you can show me a signs what good is that? why dont you GIVE me things i really need lol yeah i know quite arrogant seeing how i have been led to GREAT treasures and only now question them

i hate being blind or being biased and try to not be blind in faith and have had a lot of inner quarrels i had actually one day while being arrogant in what i had experienced said "if there is any dark force out there that thinks that they can conquer me i invite you now" hahahah that was my fall from eden but am now making my way back up hmmmm

so yeah another big thing i am greatful for is davids openess and recogntion especially of him noticing the virgo thing posted earlier hahah like hello! why you complaining so much compadre?

my trust has gone deeper now and i am greatful to have such good understanding of what has been going on and can now see it as a whole but now it is my time to CONSCIOUSLY integrate it and keep the negatives out for i keep getting mixed messages and CANNOT stand it WHATSOEVER even though i was so pure earlier hmmmm existance the ultimate biotch and ultimate benevolance

hope all you are graced as i have been and can listen to your heart and higher self it shall NOT steer you wrong all you need to do is have non blinding faith and the truth shall set you free

best of intentions codee :)

Lorigga

08-29-2007, 04:22 PM

These videos have allowed me to share a bit of my current spiritual path with those I most deeply love whom are also truth seekers. They're always curious about david wilcock, these videos really make the Law of One material, and David for that matter, more accessible.

For that, I am deeply appreciative. Thank you David, and THANK YOU project camelot!

-Lorenzo

LEP

09-02-2007, 12:49 AM

Perhaps my thanks would have been here instead... It's all very interesting to see and hear you talk about the research of yours and all the important information that you can bring to us like this. It's quite to ponder on there.. ;)

Lono

09-04-2007, 09:01 AM

I'd heard of David before watching this series, but I'd never delved deeply into his work. I was amazed by the scope and breadth of the information presented, and have passed it onto a friend who's blown away by it as well.

Thank you, David, for taking so many seemingly-disparate pieces of information and helping to pull them together into a cohesive whole. Thank you also for making this a positive, uplifting message instead of one of fear. It's so easy to slip into negative paradigms when seeing what's going on behind the scenes. That you haven't done so is a testament to your connection.

pyramidnj

09-17-2007, 10:44 AM

Hi All! It has been an enlightening journey to work on the transcription of the interview. David's generosity in sharing such a breadth of information with us speaks of who he is as a being of Light who has great compassion for his human sisters and brothers. The work is nearly complete; we are awaiting the last piece from one of the team members within the next day or so. Hopefully, it will not be long before the transcript can be accessed by everyone.

I encourage as many of you as possible to offer some of your time to assist with transcriptions, particularly where there are video interviews available. What a wonderful way to serve! I learned from my team member, Vicki, that transcribing from the video is the easiest/fastest way to do this work.

Many thanks to Vicki [jeffvic] and Kris [krisg1027] for working with me on this project.

Love and Light to All! :)
Jo Anne

Mozart

09-17-2007, 06:23 PM

...
I encourage as many of you as possible to offer some of your time to assist with transcriptions, particularly where there are video interviews available. What a wonderful way to serve! I learned from my team member, Vicki, that transcribing from the video is the easiest/fastest way to do this work.

Many thanks to Vicki [jeffvic] and Kris [krisg1027] for working with me on this project.

Love and Light to All! :)
Jo Anne

Hear Ye, Hear Ye!

THANK YOU SO MUCH Jo Anne, Vicki and Kris for doing your valuable STO transcription work!

I'd been checking the Divine Cosmos and the Camelot sites nearly everyday with the hopes of seeing transcripts posted, only to have my heart sink a bit (well, ok, more than a bit) when no transcripts were to be seen.<sigh> I had to be patient and not bugger anybody, so I kept my fingers off the mouse 'n keyboard and waited.

So how was the transcript work experience, ladies? What did you have difficulty with? What went well? How can the work be made easier? Anything that is needed, like transcription machines? Do you think that we can get by with all-volunteer work or do you think that some donated money ought to be paid to the transcribers in order to expedite the transcription process?

I do hope that we can eventually have a team of a good dozen people in this forum who'd be good transcribers who'd be able to quickly transcribe videos as soon as they appear on both the Divine Cosmos and the Project Camelot sites.

Project Camelot already has a backlog of a good 8 or more videos that have YET to be transcribed; there is great need to get them transcribed, as the information contained in them are very valuable information that must be spread out as soon as the videos appear. So if there's a team of, say, 12 transcribers, then the workload can easily be shared amongst the 12 so that no one would be overloaded with transcription work.

~Seth

cricket

09-18-2007, 05:22 AM

Hi All!
I would also like to than Kris and Jo Anne ( Jo Anne was great about getting right back to me with my questions, and I know how busy she is) for all their hard work on getting David's transcription done. It was a challenge trying to get all those scientist's names spelled correctly, but I learned a lot in the searching process! :D ( It took me forever trying to figure out the correct spelling of one "theory", but I did finally find it, so I will NEVER forget about the "Kaluza-Klein Theory"! :D) I enjoyed doing it, but foremost, I believe that David's message is an important one and the more people it can be made available to, the better.
So I am now working on transcribing Jim Sparks for Project Camelot! Hopefully I will have it out to all you folks soon.

Love and Best To All,
Vicki

timedrifter

09-18-2007, 02:12 PM

I saw the video the day the Dan Burisch video came out and I thought it was pretty amazing myself, because David spoke of an episode in long island where he met a man who claimed to work at mantauk and he described someone very similar to experiences I have been having and corroborations with things I wrote down long ago and other than that he delivers the message very clear!

Kris

09-18-2007, 02:26 PM

I very much enjoy transcribing David's work. The Project Camelot interview was my fourth one. I encourage other people to do this transcription work because you really get a lot out of it yourself, never mind being of service to others who wish to read the transcript.

I used a recorder and then a transcription machine, but apparently there is an even easier way to do it without the need for a machine. Vicki perhaps can explain it anyone who needs to know, which will include me the next time I do it because getting the recorder from my boss when she's not using it was a bit of a challenge.

Also, I have to give credit to Mark M who edits my work, which apparently takes just as long as typing it! I believe he spent a good four hours last night doing it. (Perhaps it wasn't just the scientists' names I got wrong)

Anyway, it should be available shortly.

All the best,
Kris

pyramidnj

09-18-2007, 05:49 PM

I would be willing to coordinate a team of 12 transcribers who wish to do this work pro bono/free of charge. That way the team would be large enough for the work to be distributed in such a way that no one would be overwhelmed [hopefully!]. It is very important to make this information as accessible as possible to everyone, including those who have hearing issues, etc. Also, the written text enables whomever to hone in on passages that are of particular importance to them, personally.

A smaller team of transcribers, say 6 or less, would mean that some folks will need to dedicate a good chunk of time and would be willing to take this on as a professional endeavor for a reasonable freelance fee. So, Seth you may wish to contact Bill and Kerry about that.

Video transcribing is absolutely the best. I have done transcribing before using the machines, and the video option is much easier and faster. You have easier control over playbacks and the work goes more quickly. I type the first draft in all caps to expedite the process, using MS Word. During the editing process I change case to sentence format, then go in detail through the entire text to make necessary changes, sometimes using the "find" and "replace all" function under the Edit then Go To options. All of this enabled me to complete the process without winding up bald, i.e., without pulling out all of my hair from extreme frustration and overload!:D

MarkM

09-18-2007, 08:02 PM

Mozart et al, you'll be happy to know the final part of the Camelot video was sent in just five minutes ago. Now the rock should roll!

Mark

cricket

09-19-2007, 05:13 AM

You can count me in!

MarkM

09-19-2007, 07:55 PM

As Kris says, editing can be as big a job as transcribing.

Kris is a wonder; she transcribes in a law office 40 hrs. a week, and takes home 10 hrs. a week to boot, on top of being a mother to two kids. I can't imagine being able to type almost as fast as human speech. [well, what other kind is there...;) ] I am up to @ 20 words per minute!!

Here's how it works: Kris does the rough transcription, I get it and fill in the blanks and edit. Executively and energetically it's a great matching of talent; my forte is certainly not transcribing, but I do enjoy editing. We've done three previously this year.

So, if any in this merry band of the pen feel they'd like to do a rough draft, and the e-mail it to me to edit, this might be a way I can continue to serve here. Think about this, Jo anne, it could be a good angle.

Atfer all ,I'm a prett good edito4.

-Mark

pyramidnj

09-20-2007, 04:15 AM

Cricket and Mark, you are added to the team list. If you could please send me a private message with your email address, that will facilitate communication. Mark, I will check with Bill & Kerry to ensure that an intermediate level of editing is necessary for the work done by Vicki and me for the DW interviews. Use of the Video for direct transcriptions facilitates the process greatly, to the point that few were the words that could not be deciphered and editing was relatively easy as I was doing the final conversion from caps to sentence format before sending off the doc to B & K.

Humble work though it may be, it is critical to facilitate access to interviews by DW & similar folk, for they cover so much vital information in a relatively short amount of time. Thanks to all who are willing to serve in this way.

Love and Light!:)
Jo Anne

AntonVisser

09-20-2007, 08:21 AM

Hi Dave

Thanks for all your loving work in helping us to wake up.

The best advice you have given is for us to not get worked up or upset at the action of the dark elite and the supposedly illuminated ones. No point in pouring energy down a black hole to be gobbled up is there? I now do research into alternative news with an open mind and carefree heart as much as possible in order to understand exactly what is going on and where to focus empathy, compassion and love. Our heart is a great guide in decision making as i quote from "The power of one" by Bryce Courtney - 'First with the head and then with the heart'.

Keep up the great work!

Love

Anton

"Life is not a problem to be solved but a reality to be experienced" - Soren Kierkegaard.

Mozart

09-20-2007, 11:36 AM

MarkM---thank you very much for your editing work and for letting us know on this forum. I really appreciate this. Your last line in your editing-touting post had me in stitches.

Silly me...I hadn't yet thought of the need for editing work, so like you, MarkM, I'm a good curmudgeonly editor, thus I'm available for editing work, should anyone need my help in this regard. Of course, I can't do anything with listening, as I'm nearly deaf--just so that those who don't yet know now know. And there's others on this forum who have hearing issues, of course.

A big shout-out thanks to Jo Anne, Kris and Vicki for their transcription/editing work. The ladies have been communicating with the folks at Camelot, so they have gotten the transcription ball rolling very nicely. Jo Anne has indicated that she'd be willing to help organize a team of transcribers from this forum, so, please do send her an e-mail/PM if you are interested in helping out. With more transcribers available for transcription work, the work load would be spread out, thus making it easier for everyone.

One transcriber (Kris) works a full-time 40-hour job with 10 hours of take-home work, plus two kids and a husband...and she STILL found time to transcribe. Good God. That's awesome. No doubt the other transcribers have full-time jobs, too, so having a full-time job ain't no excuse to not help others in this regard.

So far we have a transcriber leader (Jo Anne) with whips, chains and light sabers to put together a transcription/editing team; we have three bat-eared transcribers so far, plus one confirmed edito4, plus others wanting to help and one transcriber who'd be willing to pull a double-duty in editing.

So we are at the 25% mark towards the goal of the 12 disciples, er, transcribers to do the transcription work of DW's videos and the videos in the Camelot site. Who else will like to step up to the plate and play?

As Jo Anne indicated in one of her posts, there are many benefits from doing the transcription work, one of which is deeper absorption of the very useful material in the videos--such material is usually major cutting edge, deep-knowledge material that is unknown to the vast majority of the masses out there, so transcribers would have a bit of an knowledge edge when they do the transcription work. A transcriber who had done the work may feel some satisfaction of having transcribed valuable text that reaches out to the masses when they come across it later on in some other website with people being excited over the information. Deeper knowledge--that's one benefit so far...what are others? Another obvious one is that this is STO work, so you'd earn some soul-points for yourself in helping others. [11:22am now]

Ok, folks, who is ready to step up to the plate and play? We need 9 more transcribers to reach our goal of the 12 active and ready-to-go transcribers.

~Mozart

MarkM

09-20-2007, 04:13 PM

Vicky, Kris, Cricket, Jo Anne, Mozart, David, Bill and Kerry, so far, so good!

We have a foundation on which to build...just curious, though, have any new transcription projects been undertaken by any on the DC Forum?

Vicky, how's the Jim Sparks transcript coming? Can you tell us a bit more of your system for transcribing?

Well, it was great fun working on Camelot Video Part II with you, Kris. [You didn't tell me you had a husband!!:p] Again, I would be happy to help in any capacity, so, all of you, don't hesitate to PM me or e-mail me if I can be of service.

Go team, go!

Mark

DGCrow

09-20-2007, 05:15 PM

Hi to everyone,

I am a relatively new member of this forum and am extremely delighted to be participating here. As a matter of fact, this is the only forum I've ever belonged to; guess I was just waiting for the right one! :D

I've been asking for guidance on how to be of greater service to others...and golly jeepers, here I find myself reading the posts about transcribing David's Project Camelot videos. (which I enjoyed immensely, by the way) So, whomever is coordinating these endeavors, if so moved, feel free to contact me with details, tips, instructions, etc.

I look forward to helping out if needed.

Lots of Love,
Doug

meganarline

09-20-2007, 06:30 PM

I'm feeling compelled to volunteer my services here as well!! I will need a little more info as I have never done anything like this before and am not sure if I have all equipment required. I would be happy to try both editing and transcribing. I do find that when reading a transcript of an interview, reading etc. I pick up on a lot of things I missed the first time around so I know how important it is to get them done.
Put me on the list.
Thanks for this opportunity everyone.
Take care,
Megan

Kris

09-21-2007, 08:49 AM

I am assuming I am on the list for transcribers, but you know what they say about assuming anything. So, just to be sure, please put my name on the list.

The good part about having someone edit for you, is if you only have so much time to volunteer, the editor can proof read your work and check the spelling of the names, places, events etc., which can be a real time saver. I just type the names phonetically and leave it up to Mark to fix. Since he seems to know them all anyway without having to look them up, this works well. There are also times when a word is indecipherable and going back over it a couple of times to try and catch it, takes time as well. So even though I am capable of editing my own work, this shares the time involved and let's people who want to help but are not fast on the keyboard, be of service as well. So if you think you may have a limited amount of time and would like to share the work load, take advantage of Mark and Mozart's kind offers of help.

I'm sure we all have busy lives. I don't find doing the transcribing to be work - it is very enjoyable. As others have said, you get a much deeper understanding of the materials you are transcribing as you absorb every word.

Note to Mark and Mozart - I don't have a husband. I'm wondering though, would I have more time or less time if I did? ;)

Kris

Kelv

10-16-2007, 12:28 PM

That was a great interview on Project Camelot site that David did recently.

Really looking forward to the next round of interviews from their just finished trip to Russia.

They did an interview with the young man, Boriska, who remembers being on the surface of Mars and also "remembers" a couple of major events that happen here on earth in 2009 and 2013 that involves water according to press from a few years ago.

Project Camelot also spoke with Vadim Chernobrov and Valery Uvarov during the trip.

Muse

10-20-2007, 07:56 PM

I am very new to the DW material. I was introduced to him at [a particular forum-email if interested]forums. When I started to listen, I was blown away, because many of the things that I intuitively felt, he talked about as if these things were "matter of fact" or common knowledge. ;)

My favorite was part 5 on the LOA radio interview, where he talks about The Secret and how it appeals to the ego, and why I feel it is so popular.

Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20V2IgihwBo

You can catch the whole thing here:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=law+of+attraction+radio+with+ david+wilcock&search=Search

Skeeter

11-17-2007, 04:33 PM

This is the first time I have ever posted anything, but felt compelled to do so.
I was watching Projedt Camelot, when the sound of a door opening on my IM came on. At exactly that moment I could not understand anything David was saying because there was a really bad echo. I tried to close the page to start it over, LOL it would not close, only the picture the voice continued. Then I heard the door close again and the voice became normal again. Very freeky!!
Skeeter

meganarline

11-23-2007, 09:09 AM

The transcripts of David's interview are now ready!!

Happy reading everyone.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/david_wilcock_interview_transcript_1.html (http://www.projectcamelot.org/david_wilcock_interview_transcript_1.html)

I thought I had posted links to all the different parts, but it only seems to have posted one of them..I guess I'm not sure how to post multiple links. Thanks for transcribing these whoever did!!
Take care,
Love Megan

vithar

12-14-2007, 09:07 AM

thank you very much! my pc refuses both google vid and youtube for some !#%^! reason...

Verm

12-14-2007, 02:19 PM

Try re-installing Flash Player

Rhonda

12-14-2007, 03:56 PM

Agree, good post !

Unconditional love without wisdom is where a lot of people are right now

if you're sending hate to them you're guaranteeing that you're perpetuating the cycle of hate.

So you send love to the entity, because you recognize that there's a part of yourself that's like that

LightEye

12-28-2007, 11:24 AM

Dear Friends,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1563744312953763437

Link to DW's blog;

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=370&Itemid=70

Be Well, Be Love.

David

David and Project Camelot -- New Video!
Friday 12 / 28 / 07

You’ve been asking and asking for more… so now we deliver! This brand-new video goes into some of the most deeply esoteric and controversial material we’ve encountered!

TIME TO KNOW THE TRUTH

Most of the UFO field is endlessly entrenched in rehashed accounts of the same thing… do UFOs exist, did someone actually see one, did it leave a landing trace on the ground, et cetera.

As soon as you get into the next level of the story — did they crash, did we get technology from them, have we met any of the visitors — the number of people giving quality information decreases substantially.

However, based on what we’ve encountered — including David’s own firsthand testimony from "Daniel," who alleges that he worked on a top-secret project that rigged up a seat from a UFO to send people through time and space — this is still just the tip of a very large iceberg.

HENRY DEACON: A WHOLE NEW LEVEL

Though you CAN watch this video as a first-timer, it is better to start with David’s earlier interviews first. Otherwise you will miss important back-story, including how David was drawn to Project Camelot by their written testimony from their star witness — a very high-ranking black-ops man going by the name "Henry Deacon".

Deacon is far enough into what is REALLY going on that he actually has access to multiple ‘compartments’ of the UFO cover-up.

Once you accept that ETs really do exist, they really do fly in ships and those ships really have crashed here, the sky is the limit. There could be bases under the sea on our planet, bases on the Moon, bases on other planets, warp capability, time-travel capability, Stargates to other worlds, you name it.

It’s one thing to speculate and it’s another thing when you find someone who already knows many of the most important things that you’ve gathered from OTHER independent witnesses and never actually published. That’s what happened when we discovered the Henry Deacon testimony. There were far too many correlations to be happenstance.

Though some people religiously refuse to believe in ANYTHING UFO-related, the truth is very much out there, and it is far, far weirder and more vast in scope than even the most adventurous UFO researchers will ever usually admit… or even speculate.

In this conversation we spare you the pain of going through the step-by-step arguments to prove every little bit of the story, as was done in earlier sections of the video interview with David, which has become wildly popular.

Instead, we hit the ground running with brand-new information as it came in. You may be frustrated at certain parts, as the things you are about to learn raise more questions than they solve.

Unfortunately, Project Camelot’s time with Henry Deacon is never very long, so what you’re hearing is about as much information as we actually have on a given topic. There is clearly far more to know than is disclosed here… but until we know and can find out more, your imagination will have to fill in the cracks.

THE INN OF THE SEVENTH RAY — GREAT LOCATION

This conversation was filmed at the Inn of the Seventh Ray in Topanga, California, our favorite restaurant, where you really dive right into the outdoors while enjoying your meal… surrounded by trees in a pristine setting.

We were given free rein of the interior "Church Room" since it was a slow night, and everyone was outdoors. After casing out one spot by a gorgeous purple-lit Christmas tree, we ended up going with the opposite corner of the room — primarily because the lighting was the best there for the video.

What made this so exciting was that Project Camelot held off on discussing the most fascinating new insights with David until the cameras were rolling. That means you are about to see and hear these new things at the same time David did, and get his unscripted reactions.

We had no outline or plan as to how this would happen, or even necessarily what topics would be discussed… we literally just set up the two cameras and started filming.

We think you’ll be happy with the results, though it did end rather spontaneously as the restaurant was closing. Then we discovered that the batteries on our audio recording device had given out just minutes before the cameras gave out… so we do apologize for how abruptly it ends. You can dig through David’s Blog and find much, much more to whet your appetite from there!

Enjoy!

STOguy

12-28-2007, 12:09 PM

Yessss! i was hoping for more interviews with you David, can't wait to watch it.

LightEye

12-28-2007, 02:04 PM

Dear Friends,

This is close to how it happens.When you sit in the seat you don't have complete control as to where you're going.There seems to be some kind of "interference." I think it has something to do with our "imbalance."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZhvBkrq6rU

You do see something Truly Wonderful though...

Be Well, Be Love.

David

daresh

12-29-2007, 02:15 AM

lvxseeker

12-29-2007, 02:43 PM

Hey,

I read some of Henry Deacon his texts and suggestions, they seem very doom inspired and gives a mixed message.
This doesn't seem to correlate at all with DW and the law of one views.
I'm curious about what other people think about this and the new video?

greets,
Filip

I have only skimmed some of the "Henry Deacon" material for I find them very fear-based and negative - which as I understand it is one of the criteria for judging whether a channelling is STS.

I go by the maxim - believe nothing, verify everything.

Many of the interviews on Project Camelot can't be verified. Shadowy figures under assumed names who are supposedly "in the know". Good Sci fi, when you have exhausted the X-files, but not worth spending too much mental or emotional energy on.

LoO recommends as a spiritual practice to find the love in each moment. Pro Cam seems more about finding the fear. That's OK if you want to do that, but I prefer to go for love any day.

kibu

12-29-2007, 03:01 PM

The pretext of over-population problem claimed by the PTB to keep secrecy seems to me very weak and even contradictory in this case, it's like saying :
We care so much about humanity (which is by the way so dumb to handle complex things because we have lied so much to them !) that to avoid a total chaos on Earth we need to develop black technologies coming from kind of devil's deals with ETs and in the end drastically reduce the population...
And hey, the Earth is sinking but don't tell it, we have choosen ones in life-boats to rescue the seed of Humanity !

If this is the main reason for secrecy it is a mockery or some sort of weird psychological need to have a justification for evil duties from people who are so inbed with the darkness that they just don't see how to go away from it (i think this is one of the main reason for secrecy in addition to a complete fear control by their masters on them, ala Darth Vador). This remind me of the same need of justification of the 2nd SS Division Das Reich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_SS_Division_Das_Reich#War_crimes) to kill civilians.

A part from that, the information provided by Project Camelot and DW, if true, seems so beyond the control of the common people that one may wonder what to pragmatically do with it.
Jim Sparks a contactee suggest an amnesty to shadow government. If Earth-ship is sinking do you believe that this matters ?

May be PC&DW are right, the people in the shadow don't have a good view point of the situation so they are behaving on faulty information. How ironic it would be if people having looking glass tech and more tech access to information than anyone on this planet are the ones who finally know the less !? :)

daresh

12-30-2007, 10:33 AM

I have only skimmed some of the "Henry Deacon" material for I find them very fear-based and negative - which as I understand it is one of the criteria for judging whether a channelling is STS.

I go by the maxim - believe nothing, verify everything.

Many of the interviews on Project Camelot can't be verified. Shadowy figures under assumed names who are supposedly "in the know". Good Sci fi, when you have exhausted the X-files, but not worth spending too much mental or emotional energy on.

LoO recommends as a spiritual practice to find the love in each moment. Pro Cam seems more about finding the fear. That's OK if you want to do that, but I prefer to go for love any day.

Yup I agree. Henry his stuff is not channeled but it remains pretty fear based. The info from the last video from DW is for me personally of no use for that which I am here. I mean I am here to serve others and for this balancing myself, knowledge about soul evolution, wisdom and practical things in the every day life are very important, these are much more important than transient info like what kind of black-ops are out there... I thought the video would be more about the esoterical and ageless wisdom.
Anyhow I really look forward to DW's new study guide of the LOO.

greets,
Filip

STOguy

12-30-2007, 01:31 PM

I agree that the Deacon testimony is negative in its interpretation of things, but the facts, if true, stand alone. I was thinking about 2012, these whistleblowers, and things like the Ron Paul phenomena. With all of these things happening i wonder if one of the reasons that 2012 could turn into a golden age is that humanity could just completely lose faith in the governmental process and rediscover itself in a new light. With the advent of all of this new technology that could be brought to light by Gordon Novel and others and the Ron Paul movement, which basically is the distrust in government movement and is alot bigger than polls are showing, i feel like even though all of these bad things have been happening behind the scenes, if brought to light all of these things would force a major revolution in mankind's thinking and help to usher us into the golden age. At least that's what i'm hoping for!

weboy78

12-30-2007, 05:25 PM

Magical_Mongoose

12-30-2007, 10:14 PM

Mars seems like a pretty freaky place, from what I've seen. Whether the events have occurred in the past or if they're sending shockwaves down through the timeline from a future series of events, the Mars saga is pretty screwed up to say the least.
Regarding the Alternative 3-type plan, it seems to be directly linked into a highly negative STS timeline. To summarize, this plan is to single out certain candidates for assimilation into Orion groups. Ultimately, those sent to Mars would probably end up being contacted directly by a reptilian faction as the 4th-Density boundary enfolds this area of time-space. It's an orchestrated event...there's is no high-mindedness of "saving the planet", because after all, it's the culling of humanity.
Then there's the STO timeline that bypasses this entirely, as people further their connection with their Higher-Self and "Christ consciousness". Seems like an appropriate phrase, as the religions of 4th density are focused more around psychological aspects of exploration rather than dogmatic precepts of action...from the Buddhist viewpoint, right actions flow naturally from those with the right view.
I'm pretty sure the overwhelming and extremely tramautic experiences the scientists involved in the Mars project suffered results from the massive degree of destabilization of the Martian collective unconscious...these individuals were unfortunate enough to sense this, however momentary their perception may have been.
It has to do with what has and/or what can occur there. It's difficult to distinguish between the past and future considering the Mars saga, as it is quite possible that the past of this current timeline is the result of a future series of events...causing a timeloop, wherein the only escape is the necessary shift in awareness and perception towards empathy and love that will break it.
Although this information is largely trivial when considering the full range of your ultimate purpose and soul evolution, I think it's possible to distill some essentials from this mixture of highly disturbing and unverifiable pieces of information. Here we go:
If you're familiar with the alleged hybridization effort, it's basically an attempt to allow for 4th density STS soul-matrices to imbed themselves within a 3D-4D body. There's a lot of information on montalk.net about this if you're interested. It's basically all about forming the appropriate genetic resonances with a combination of human and reptilian DNA that will best conform to the STS/Orion soul-matrix...
The potential events on Mars completes this process. Those who are chosen are the fruits of several strains of hybridization processes, culminating in their selection and export. Believing they are the best of the best and zealous in the feeling they are the saviours of humanity, they are but tools in the view of those who have carefully and maliciously guided this process.
Upon Mars and during transit, they are drugged with a highly powerful psychoactive substance that completely blows open their third eye and crown chakra. Placed within basically what one could term "possession chambers", a 4D entity focuses the entirety of their energy on the host as the normal resistances of these unfortunate individuals are devastatingly weakened. Such a massive split in consciousness is formed within the host as to almost entirely result in the souls evacuation, to be replaced with...you get the point. And then they infiltrate the timeline further...forming a "positive" feedback loop.
Although one could walk away with either a nervous laugh, a nagging fear or deep-felt powerlessness in the face of this potential and, I'll admit, seemingly sci-fi future, it all comes down to the degree of discernment you practice today and the love you carry within your heart in each moment. We're given a chance to correct the spiritual and causal distortions that lead to this event, and to create a "negative" feedback loop as to decrease the probability of this negative timeline from occurring. We each play a role in this as we activate our minds and hearts and realize our Higher-Self.
It's an ongoing process, but I have a feeling many things will be realized by people on an individual and eventually, collective basis. Some things will be revealed and when shared, can result in positive change if people recognize their responsibility to think, love and Know.
Nobody is ever left behind.

dariusdjc

12-31-2007, 01:07 PM

I definately agree with everyone. Before I came across this post and read henry's update, i really thought how negatively oriented everything written was. I thought just maybe he is afraid himself of all these things and decided to send it all out warning us, or just maybe someone got to him and wanted him to send such a negative message.

I tend to agree with the majority on here and believe we are on the right coarse to a better world. I think everyone has a part to play and as long as you are spiritually ready even if we dip into an era of some turmoil and pain, it may be a walk in the park for you.

Happystrings

12-31-2007, 04:55 PM

" ...I'll admit, seemingly sci-fi future, it all comes down to the degree of discernment you practice today and the love you carry within your heart in each moment. We're given a chance to correct the spiritual and causal distortions that lead to this event, and to create a "negative" feedback loop as to decrease the probability of this negative timeline from occurring. We each play a role in this as we activate our minds and hearts and realize our Higher-Self.
It's an ongoing process, but I have a feeling many things will be realized by people on an individual and eventually, collective basis. Some things will be revealed and when shared, can result in positive change if people recognize their responsibility to think, love and Know.
Nobody is ever left behind..."

I agree with you except for the part about recognizing one's individual responsibility" I don't believe that we recognize it, rather that we realize it.

kibu

01-01-2008, 03:14 AM

Can you love the man who harmed you, the people who lie and betrayed you and even killed your friends and familly,
with an unconditionnal and transforming love ?

Those who return from NDE and had experienced this unconditionnal love, may have been taught precisely this by beings that have mastered this power. They can testify that this power exists and that we all can access it.

I think this is the ultimate test for those who has faith in forces greater than all darkness :D .

vithar

01-01-2008, 09:59 AM

who drew up the demarcation between sts and sto? if you take antibiotics you're sts?
is this a fequency thing?

also, much of the hoopla - the sci fi fascinations - are cooked up by the ptb's lackeys. to keep us busy.

population reduction is nothing new.

earth gulag by 2012. That, is the agenda. i heard that they've had their greasy mits in the mayan stuff. to keep us guessing...

these old families have had alot of time to plan. and they know everything (they need to know) about the "rabble".

as you may know, cell phones, wireless techs etc. are steps towards chip implants.

Solbeena

01-01-2008, 11:15 AM

Hi,
I haven't viewed Deacon's (I sense it's a waste of time). I also didn't read what you guys are discussing up here so it's not I can provide any of my opinion but I want to add one thing.
You know, even in very enlightened Alien community they can have a theory that could be only a theory. But the way they produce the theory, the way they think, they way they communicate, the way they deal with communication is evolved.
I find that current earth humans, I mean a lot of us, are very dominant, forceful in dealing with communication and their life event of course. They try to apply the dominant and forceful way in every possible corner of their thought and life on theirs and others, try to make others bend under their own opinion proudly. Even if it is not said, we sense the energy from these people attacking with the kind of attitude.
Here fear arises subconsciously. The experience itself can't be feared. Honestly, what the hell. Death itself can't be feared. If anyone who has well acknowledged with the law of nature, the law of universe. Nothing to fear. Maybe the moment itself, would be painful but it's a moment....Maybe long enough to patrify we humans. I can understand but we are beings above it.
So, its the people causes our mind to be biased, misunderstand, and misconclude and they provide fear infiltrated opinion which is not good materials to absorbe. The logic in the material will be perceived and absorbed subconsciously and be a part of our thoughts. so I use my insight or intuition a lot to pass on those materials.
The people with this over-self-centered, over-selfish, over-controlling, forceful, dominant attitude, are the ones a lot of people fear. So the evaluation of the experience get biased through the mind of the person who are under the influence of those so called ...bad people.
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I just find that it's hard to be around control freaks. :)

Solbeena

AmelieJolie

01-01-2008, 01:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMwJmIRF7ZE

Solbeena

01-01-2008, 05:11 PM

...I don't like those testing folks. too many unnecessary tests.

wayshower

01-04-2008, 10:07 AM

To return to the original topic....
I agree it is very hard to find any spiritual significance in this conversation - interesting as it may be.
DW has a life long interest in UFO-logy and indeed the revelations which he and the PC team obviously believe to be sincere are amazing and do keep us informed.
The important thing to remember I think, is that the name of the game is to grow and develop spiritually according to our freewill (DW almost touches on this point at one stage). Entities were still eligible for harvest to the next density before all this technological wizardry. Brothers or sisters in remote areas can still qualify for graduation with no knowledge of wormholes, stargates or jumprooms (:confused: looks funny when you type it like that, doesn't it?)
I had several moments of disquiet after watching the video, and my conclusion was that maybe these selves from across the galaxy are in fact stuck in 3D - they are seeking security or the future, or salvation, or whatever by clinging to monkey-mind comforts, seeking the solution as a physical (bodily) and mental thing but neglecting the spiritual. This smells of fear of death to me.
Ra does not encourage us to pursue growth through space travel, to avoid earth changes through escape to another planet - Ra sees all that as 'transient'. Their focus is on service, knowing ourselves and assisting other selves where we can.
This is the positive path of hope and progression.
The ascension comes from being 51% STO, not from being one of those chosen for slavery on Mars (why else were these 600k 'chosen'?)
My money's still on Ra.

One other small detail, Ra acknowledges that our Sun has a binary companion, yet DW dismissed what he called the "Planet X" theory: was this a confusion of terms?

Love.
Neil

Magical_Mongoose

01-13-2008, 09:17 PM

I was disturbed as well from it. We have to align ourselves properly and spiritually as our solar system goes through this process of alignment itself, which the interview strayed from.
I was thinking about what I wrote in the post...I felt a lot of negative emotional release when I was writing that, as the negative aspects of that theory arose within me during a profound, psychotic experience I had. Finally getting that out was like lifting a great weight off my shoulders and even though I attempted to cast a hopeful revision on it, the nature of that experience came through. I'd like to thank everyone for letting me do that.
It always has to deal with the resonance and the energy you carry within your heart. The idea of being whisked off to some underground lair in Mars to avoid Earth changes discredits the psycho-spiritual shift in consciousness that will avoid the worst of those changes from occurring.
It seems like a timeline split, to say the least. Massive energies of free will are being generated at this time, with so many conflicting views the Earth is being split open as people choose their path based on what they need to experience. I know this is sounding cliche and corny but being centred around the heart is crucial during these times, as all too often, it's easy to lose sight of the joy and happiness that is always ours to embrace. It's all too easy to retain a heavy heartedness about the state of the world, your past and the future, but it must be released when you're preparing yourself to truly aid others.
STS and STO is ultimately based on resonance, and the love we hold within our hearts. Although the terminology may itself be a little biased, you will distinctly feel the warmth of a being of unconditional acceptance and love compared to a being of cold-heartedness and manipulation.
Taking vaccines and eating meat has nothing to do with being STS or STO. These are biological functions and desires that while may point towards certain directions, in no way determine the polarity of a being.
Hitler was a vegetarian. I'm pretty sure Jesus ate fish.

vithar

02-25-2008, 05:57 AM

i was listening to the audio with DW in that back room. jump rooms etc.
i tend to project alot. ie., reading (my own bias or paranoia) into inflections and tone variations etc. in speech etc.
there were a few moments where it sounded like, tho not Dave or the woman really, the aussie (i think) was making stuff up. this or he did'nt really believe it himself. or, that they were knowingly putting on a Show.
maybe it was due to being in the place with folks around. feeling a bit silly. or simply knowing they were out on the very fringe. i'll see what i feel on next listen.

>>>>>>

Solbeena. i was in S. Korea when in the 2nd infantry. ever here of Toko Ri (spelling?) or Tong Du Chong (spelling). was up on the dmz as well. i loved Korea. the mountains contrasted with the paddies...ha, and those Huge drainage ditches for the rains! also the way the cities laid out residential dwelling space. much of it was enchanting.

cricket

02-25-2008, 12:42 PM

Vithar...
The "aussie guy" is Bill Ryan and he is from the UK. If you check out Project Camelot and the other interviews that Bill and Kerry have done, the info that Bill was talking about is on that site, so it wasnt "made up". I think DW is intuitive enough to not get mixed up with people that arent being sincere about their work. Bill and Kerry have put their necks on the line getting this info filmed and out to the public. Just my two cents worth! :)

transiten

03-06-2008, 09:47 PM

Hi!

Last night I was walking my dog looking up to the Orionconstellation, the sky being crystalclear, and asking myself: "Is there something special with Orion, is it mostly negative?"

I wrote a song in 1992 living on "Starshieldstreet" about changing destructive patterns. I woke up early one morning and saw Venus through my window and Orion next to her. In the Greek mythology Orion was a hunter that killed every animal in his way.

Later I learned that the Mayans were afraid of the Venuspassage thet we're now in the middle of bedcause it signals big upheavals in society due to the misuse of power. In Greek mythology also venus was a godess of love as eveningstar but godess of war as morningstar.

And now I pop into this site and read this thread about montalk. I also was not feeling OK while watching the video, somehow feeling that David also could be deluded in spite of his spiritual development and high intelligence.

Strange though with this synchronicity...I have not been thinking of Orion for a long time. By the way Artemis sent a scorpion to stop Orion...my sunsign actually.

Liliane

litllady

03-07-2008, 06:04 AM

Hi transiten!

I love watching the sky and I must say there are neat things in the stars this year! Tonight will be another good night to look at Orion. Also look for Mars and try to see the Taurus constellation. You dont need the whole constellation, actually look for the reddish stars in Orion and Taurus. These 2 reddish stars make a triangle tonight with Mars. Ill post a link for you to look at this at the bottom here!!

I wish I could say more on Orion and the true history. Orion defiantly carries much history. Which ones are myth and which ones are truth I have no idea. I do feel that Orion has a relationship somehow with the beginning of man. But again, thats way out there to make assumptions of that. I dont feel negativity from it, but its intimidating to me because I feel the feeling of 'getting things done and no one or thing will stand in the way' kinda of attitude with Orion. But we all receive feelings for different reasons. I say over and over, what it is for one may not be for another, but we should share our experience.

Mabey tonight with a geometrical red cornered triangle in the sky you might feel a better connection. I feel that the 'area' of a constellation is the important part, not so much the figure our human ancestors have placed for the 'area' of the sky. Orion's the red star is 'Betelgeuse' and the Taurus red star is Aldebaran.

I look up earthsky every morning. This morning I found a great energy for whatever reason when seeing this triangle with Mars and these two constellations. I felt a need to post this today in the forum just in case this energy I was feeling was meant for someone else. I didnt feel it pertained to me so to say. Then I saw your post on Orion and noticed you were observing the sky last night and was pondering on things. So mabey this was the reason I felt this was for someone else! I was really not wanting to start a whole new thread for this-and now I dont have to:) Happy sky watching!!

Peace to all,
Lynette

litllady

03-07-2008, 07:00 AM

http://www.earthsky.org/skywatching

This will show you what the sky will look like.

litllady

03-07-2008, 09:53 AM

http://www.earthsky.org/skywatching/mars-and-stars-make-red-triangle-in-night-sky

OK, sorry for any confusion. When I was looking at earthsky this morning they had not yet updated for today (March 7) so I was seeing the sky chart from March 6 (yesterday) -which was when you noticed Orion:cool:

So I still went ahead and posted the link to the 'red triangle' that you would of been looking at last night, at least to show my point was well meant:)

Tonight will still be a good night to observe though, as it always is. Mabey the triangle is still observable...

Peace to all,
Lynette

transiten

03-07-2008, 10:57 AM

Hi Lynette!

Are you of french origin? My mom was. Thankyou for the "link"...we're all "linked" right;) I have a "Paradisland" where I can camp with my dog and watch the sky all night long. I'm also doing a lot of astrology.

The pyramids in egypt were built exactly in correspondance with the Orion "Belt" as we say in Sweden
A psychic said i was a diplomat once in Egypt and also a Mayan woman, having studied astrology in many incarnations....

Love and Light from Liliane

transiten

03-07-2008, 04:27 PM

transiten

03-09-2008, 01:51 AM

Hi

If I were to write down all the synchronicities that have beeen with me since 1983, now increasing since I joined this website it would be like writing a book, which I've been thinking of for some years... I'll jump into the synchronicitythead as a start

Just watch the new Free video! Among other things there's an "Orionbox" and a clarification of the questions here,
feel no fear:)

Liliane

5Cauac

09-10-2008, 01:49 PM

I havnt heard it yet. Thought i'd pass it along.

Project Camelot Interviews (http://www.projectcamelot.org/audio_interviews.html)

"This is a blockbuster of a two hour phone conversation with David Wilcock, focusing on immediate current events but spanning time travel, the Freemasons, the Anunnaki, the Nazis, WW II, advanced technology, the Roswell crash, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Illuminati, the war in Georgia, the coming US election, Benjamin Fulford's testimony, and what may or may not happen in the coming few weeks and months"

Click here (http://www.projectcamelot.org/david_wilcock_9_sept_2008.mp3) for the download from Project Camelot.

Thanks Bill and Kerry!

billybobbutterball

09-10-2008, 05:49 PM

billbob listened!!

Wow! What a riveting two hours of info packaging.

Astounding material came out of David like water from a fire hose....ummm...bad analogy. (Implies it was "all wet"...No way! Not at all!... :o)

Hey! How's this? ...like vital info-bullets spouting from a jaw-rattlin' machine gun? :eek:...Nah..getting worse.

:p... like promises from a poli..... well, yeah, but.....

Fresh start!!! :D

Great stuff from David in the form of an animated review and exposition of backstage elite machinations rather than a diluted back and forth ball-bouncing exchange kind of interview. (which is promised to come later)

Oh, heck...just go listen to it for yourself. ProjectCamelot dot org

sheesh! BBB

AL_EMT

09-10-2008, 11:04 PM

SWEET, thanks! bumb.

fiz

09-11-2008, 06:23 AM

I tried downloading from the link several times, but the audio is dead. Hope it's just me, or that it gets fixed soon....

fiz

09-11-2008, 06:32 AM

...The download DOES work -- just not the streaming audio. Listening now :D

MindOverEverything

09-11-2008, 11:41 AM

Very interesting information, and I always love David's optimism. The aspect of seeing the various factions and sub-factions of "the tyrants" is very important, I think. The history lesson covered some things I knew but had a LOT of details "in between" what I knew that was new information.

That alone would have been great, but then of course, David ties it all together with current events so well. My wife and I were laughing about how BADLY the neo-con side bungled their attempt at WW3. If war could ever be said to be funny, that on was truly hilarious.

It all goes to show that the wheels are falling off the bus. Now we just have to make sure they don't try to drive the bus off a cliff before the end. Shouldn't be a problem, though. :)

Optimistically,
Cameron

AmelieJolie

09-11-2008, 01:30 PM

Absolutely brilliant interview! :D

dazcox

09-11-2008, 04:19 PM

yeah I'm slowly digesting it, one of the best so far for sure!

Liam

09-11-2008, 04:28 PM

I haven't quite finished listening to the interview yet but so far I have found it absolutely fascinating! I have just listened to the part where David talks about the number of days since his birth and about the 720 day cycles etc. I then felt a strong urge to check the number of days since by own birthday and I was extremely surprised to find out that it is 7777 days since I was born! This seems like quite an incredible synchronicity, that I happened to check on this day. This has only made me even more enthusiastic about following David's work!

boogiepop81

09-11-2008, 04:39 PM

WOW! I felt like I was in true History class! That 2 hours was phenomenal! I feel soo much better now that Russia has all they need to wake the American people if all goes awry in the next few weeks.

Strider44

09-12-2008, 05:57 AM

was interesting but where does david get some of this information...

.the guy who wrote shakespere wasnt called william shakesphere..??

.the germans met with the annunaki in ww2?????

3D Sunset

09-12-2008, 07:20 AM

was interesting but where does david get some of this information...

.the guy who wrote shakespere wasnt called william shakesphere..??

.the germans met with the annunaki in ww2?????

If you expect to find conspiracies, they will appear. If you look for a man behind the curtain, he will be there. If you look wearily over your shoulder for a shadow figure, one will always be present.

This is the problem I have with a lot of DWs latest work. He views his purpose behind this incarnation to be one of proving what he could only describe last time. The problem with this is that many of the things he is trying to prove are, by design, unprovable in 3rd density. I think this slant has pulled him farther and farther from his true path, which is helping to maximize the harvest. Unfortunately, I believe that he has befriended a group of people put here to distract him from what is really important.

Is what he says real? Who knows.. Does it matter? Not a wit. I take it as an entertaining story whose relevance is orthogonal to reality. The more one tries to grasp these phantoms, the more they vanish and regroup elsewhere, larger and more menacing still.

Loose the fluff from its stricture,

3D Sunset

fiz

09-12-2008, 12:38 PM

Unfortunately, I believe that he has befriended a group of people put here to distract him from what is really important.

Is what he says real? Who knows.. Does it matter? Not a wit. I take it as an entertaining story whose relevance is orthogonal to reality. The more one tries to grasp these phantoms, the more they vanish and regroup elsewhere, larger and more menacing still.

Interesting perspective -- and quite honest, too. I'm curious who you think this group of people are who were "put here to distract" David.

I do think that David walks a razor's edge in involving himself in fringe matters so definitively. But for myself, I sense that he is inspired to do so from his deepest integrity, with a sense of urgency to expose and explain the seamy underside of current events in bold relief.

Admittedly, he chooses to present information that cannot be proven, and he chooses to use the "testimonies" of figures who could very well be misleading, intentionally or otherwise. (In particular, Leo Zagami, who it now appears may have snowed Greg Szymanski with a false agenda, thereby discrediting Greg and others who would choose to believe Zagami's reports.) However, I think it's always very clear that David is speaking for David, and that he is not asking us to believe his reports at face value. I am guessing that David is choosing to put information out that has not been proven -- and all of which may not even wind up being credible -- in order to tell a larger story that he clearly thinks is credible and must be told.

What is this story? It is the untold story that may be the driving force behind history as we know it, and as we are currently living it. It is the shadow history of humanity under the control of the will of an organized group of beings, human and otherwise, in service to our enslavement.

What is the value of knowing this story at this moment in time -- even if it cannot yet all be fully proven? Here is where I think David is making the greatest leap of faith of all. I think that knowing this story, even if it must be held -- at least in part -- as merely a story for now, as possible information -- MAY equip us with the means to recognize how we are involved in the drama of the world and of Earth's ascension at a level of difficult insight that opens us to an equivalent depth of freedom to the degree that this story DOES eventually become provable.

Again, that story is the story of humanity's being under the control of specific, identifiable beings and people, extraterrestrial and human. Some folks may consider this focus to be incidental, perhaps even a diversion from the wider theme of our future Ascension, and this is certainly a valid view. RA indeed does downplay the significance of these matters in The Law of One.

But for humans on the ground at this moment in time, for some of us anyway, the story that David is telling is one that is corroborated by my own visionary and detailed dream initiation over the past several years into precisely the landscape that he is describing. And from this largely intuitive -- and yes, unprovable -- perspective that I hold from my dreamlife, I find David's current reflections to be timely, brave, and deeply relevant to what it means for humanity to grasp the means of its freedom at this unfolding moment of time in ways that span across many different dimensions of our experience.

Whether this story is relevant for you depends on your perspective, obviously. Whether it is relevant for others -- this seems necessarily to be a matter of personal choice.

lvxseeker

09-12-2008, 02:45 PM

I have only listened to the interview once but thinking back on it I seem to recall that DW mentioned that something happened on the 16th Aug which heralded the end of our reliance on fossil fuel. I can't remember him saying what that was. Did he expand on this and I missed it or did I just imagine this?

AmelieJolie

09-12-2008, 06:43 PM

As far as I can tell, yes, David does get some of his information from his intuition, but he has also had many long conversations with several insiders, as well as having done his own, very extensive research on many things.

I have read before that William Shakespeare was actually Francis Bacon, and there is a lot of evidence to point towards this. I would like to do more research on this matter as it is truly fascinating.

I feel that David is extremely intelligent and very in tune with things.
Although I don't expect any human being to have grasped a complete view of the world's 'jigsaw puzzle', I do feel he is very much so on the right track, due to his intuition and pure, sincere heart.
I always get good vibes from him every time I listen to his interviews- and I am quite intuitive myself. ;)

I hope they do have another interview with him in a few months time or so; it will be very interesting.

PriestOfLight

09-12-2008, 06:45 PM

We all live under a veil at the moment. Connecting these events lifts the veil and grows us spiritual.

ie Some who to works everyday thinking this is how life is and this is who I am. They just work with now question. Barely any spirituality searching or evolution. No time for it and no real reason to make time for it.

Finding out that you are a slave in the supposed free-est country in the world is a rude awaken. You begin to ask youself, who am I? What am I doing? Who is this really helping?

Instead of being a sheeple and follow the heard you wake up to this ugly dream. You then realize there is a choice to make. Go on in this dream or stand up for yourself and others.

Also by providing information about issues it helps people understand and this understanding leads people to fear less and to bring more light into their lives.

If people believe what is going on, they will fear. The fear will create negative energy. Through understanding, you can accept the situation which brings in more light even if the outcome may not seem positive, you can mentally prepare for it and turn it around.

In the light and love of all that is

Paul

meganarline

09-13-2008, 02:22 PM

Is what he says real? Who knows.. Does it matter? Not a wit.

I haven't even listened to the interview yet as I am out of town, but I can only imagine from the other posts the type of information contained. I tend to agree that this type of information is not vital to my being as I already have a pretty good knowledge of what is really happening behind the scenes in the governments etc. ( I am just guessing that it is not vital since I haven't listened , but I will definitely listen when I have the chance anyways.)

However, if this type of information grabs someones attention who then gravitates to the Divine Cosmos site (or the other project camelot videos) where they then discover the other more spiritually centered information , or if it causes them to question their reality, which causes them to awaken, then I say go for it. Keep it coming.

Megan

Tenet Nosce

09-14-2008, 05:48 PM

Here we have from the written blog post:

It should be obvious that this election is of critical importance, as we’re talking about who will run the most powerful country on Earth — occupying 190 other countries as we speak — for the entire remaining time before the Mayan Calendar end-date of December 21, 2012.

and here from the Project Camelot interview:

No matter what happens in this election we win. . . if McCain steals the election by some sort of voting voodoo. . . that still will lead to the same outcome which is- it would be the catalyst to finally mobilize the public to longer put up with this ridiculous stuff that’s been going on.

Is there some level of logical consistency here that perhaps I've missed?

MarkM

09-14-2008, 07:41 PM

A question of context, perhaps?

It's of utmost importance that I care for my kids, and yet I also know that all will eventually be ok, in a wider spiritual sense. If I die tomorrow, I have full faith that my kids will eventually tread their paths through the densities, and re-unite with the creator.

Despite this, I find myself a little worried about my eldest who is newly away at college, and having a little personal trouble at this time. I wish he would call, as I don't presently have access to a phone number at which I can reach him.

A natural 3Dish concern, I'm sure you'll understand. Ever the concerned parent, I.

But I know that his choices will serve to further him on his journey. He will be fine, regardless of my concerns - yet, I still have them, as I am in a 3D experience, as is David Wilcock.

All of us here in 3D manifestation naturally have some investiture into the concerns of our 3D lives, and I have worried, fretted, had sleepless nights, and in short have been wrapped up in all these common 3D concerns regarding my kids, (amongst other things) knowing I am here to make a difference in their lives... hopefully as catalyst towards some meaningful influence. I know that this is perfectly acceptable, yet I also know that no matter what happens, they are now and always will be absolutely ok.

So, if I write a post about my worries for my sundry issues in this life, and turn around and write a post detailing my personal assurance that all will be ok, no matter what happens, I suggest that there is no intrinsic and irrevocable lack of logical consistancy going on. Love and dynamic compassion is absolutely valuable in our experiencing, and I posit that no one here is living with no interest at all in certain vested personally perceived outcomes, notwithstanding their level of spiritual attainment. If that were the case, you wouldn't be here.

There's a sliding scale of context of spirituality/life, and I believe it's important to take this into account when using discrimination in sussing out the relative value of anyone's verbal imput. Here in 3D, it's seemingly impossible to make a singular statement that addresses the fullness of potential variability of context. Mark

Tenet Nosce

09-14-2008, 09:21 PM

Certainly context is important when evaluating one's words, yet to say on the one hand that something is of critical importance and on the other that it doesn't matter what happens bears some hashing out. Does it matter, or not?

I happen to agree with the statement DW made in the interview, and which I think is more consistent with his research, the LoO material, and my own inner guidance.

The reasons why I have concern over placing too much emphasis on the outcome of the election are threefold.

1. It keeps one focused on what is going on "out there" and distracted from where the real work is done on the inside. According to my understanding, what an individual will experience post-2012 is a direct reflection of their own level of spiritual polarity. Obama can be used as a catalyst. McCain can be used as a catalyst. Or one can use any other form of external, or internal, catalyst to achieve sufficient polarity. The form of catalyst is irrelevant, only the nature of the change that results is of value.

2. Part of the primary lesson humanity has struggled in this last cycle of civilization is the idea that someone or something is going to come to "save us". This thought process is part of the problem, not the answer. Making Obama out to be America's savior actually reduces the possibility for positive polarization because it encourages an attitude of complacency.

3. Making a McCain presidency out to be equivalent to jumping onto a negative 2012 timeline only feeds the fear mongerers and the doom and gloom camp.

Beyond this, I think it is important to consider the possibility that maybe it is better in the end if things get worse for a while. If 9/11 and Katrina weren't enough to pull people's heads out of their rears and take a good hard look at what we've made our reality to be, maybe we need something like a total collapse of the financial system. I say, bring it on.

If there's one thing history has proven it's that one of the best ways to depolarize a human being is to keep their pockets and their bellies fat. There was a lot more awakening going on post 9/11 before people got distracted by ultra low interest rates and the new promise of the American Dream. It's pretty hard to focus on spiritual growth when you're busy working to pay the mortgage on your new middle class mansion and filling up the tank in your Escalade.

transiten

09-15-2008, 07:13 AM

Hello Tenet

I don't like the notion that "it's better if things get worse"....It sounds rather demoralizing to me..Things happen as a consequence of our thoughts, feelings and actions...This attitude could sustain the idea that poor pple should not be helped because it's their karma to be sick or poor

But the paradox is that sometimes things really get better after a big crisis, I'm an example of that myself; but if someone had told me before that I had to go through this and that they would not try to help me avoid it...

I just wouldn't state that it's "better"...It just "is"....This is a 3D Paradox..

Liliane the transit

3D Sunset

09-15-2008, 07:34 AM

Interesting perspective -- and quite honest, too. I'm curious who you think this group of people are who were "put here to distract" David.

Hi Fiz,

Thanks for the question. I distilled my original post to laying out the main issue I see, which is that so much transitory speculation is going on right now, I'm concerned that it is not only distracting a lot of worthwhile seekers, but is, in fact, playing into the hands of those that feed off other's fears.

I think that the Project Camelot folks are sincere in their desire to "bring out the truth", but I think that effort is misdirected. When they teamed up with DW, I think they provided him a fascinating diversion. One that he is interested in and well suited for. In short, just the kind of temptation that would appeal to someone with his talents and abilities, and would be offered by those seeking to minimize his efforts.

What real value is there in laying bare all the conspiracies that exist and have evolved over time? I challenge the assertion that it helps bring people to seek the Law of One. On the contrary, based just on the posts to this website - a supposed bastion of positive energy - I see that it divides people (good vs evil, STS vs STO, us vs them), raises fear, anger and hatred, and ultimately reduces the positive energy that it intends to increase. Need we really be aware of more than the fact that there are forces that are seeking to empower themselves at others expense? The details simply sap our light and love, and are, in short, superfluous.

I think we all need to take a moment and reflect on the fact that we are all one. Even those *#!#**! illuminati, and the neoconservatives, and all those nasty STS evil beings that are out there preying on innocent, undecided, 3D'ers. We all serve a purpose for the one Creator! And yes, we all have a right to exist, and a duty to pursue our agenda with our utmost vim and vigor. While I do not like to associate with STS entities, I do not fear them, and yes, indeed I do Love them. Remember that they are convinced that STO are misdirected fools, who totally miss the point behind creation. We need not fear them, we need not pity them, we especially should not hate them! We can simply salute them as our ships pass at a distance, and then go back about our work. In my opinion, our best course of action is to simply keep a safe distance and ignore them.

I try to live my life focused on ensuring that, when my turn comes to walk the steps of light, that I shall cross out of the 3D range. I also send my love and light to allow as many mind/body/spirit complexes as possible to do likewise. I believe that by sending my love and light to the planet, with the intention of providing the greatest benefit for all, I best do my greatest part to aid in this time of harvest. I further believe that dwelling on rumors, hints, and innuendos is to lessen that light.

3D Sunset

Tenet Nosce

09-15-2008, 11:00 AM

But the paradox is that sometimes things really get better after a big crisis, I'm an example of that myself; but if someone had told me before that I had to go through this and that they would not try to help me avoid it...

Well, Liliane, you pretty much proved my point through your own example above. So I'm not sure what you are arguing here.

SuperManny

09-15-2008, 01:46 PM

...DW mentioned that something happened on the 16th Aug which heralded the end of our reliance on fossil fuel. I can't remember him saying what that was. Did he expand on this and I missed it or did I just imagine this?

I've been racking my brain and looking all over the place, because I remembered something about this date, and I think I've finally found it! :D

The Stan Meyer estate, (you know--the original and successful "run-your-car-on-water" guy) offered up all his work for bid to interested parties on Saturday, August 16th! I think the patents were expiring and they just sold all the rights to it. Man, that's gotta be it!!! Wish I knew who had the winning bid!

Enkidu

09-15-2008, 03:46 PM

If there's one thing history has proven it's that one of the best ways to depolarize a human being is to keep their pockets and their bellies fat. There was a lot more awakening going on post 9/11 before people got distracted by ultra low interest rates and the new promise of the American Dream. It's pretty hard to focus on spiritual growth when you're busy working to pay the mortgage on your new middle class mansion and filling up the tank in your Escalade.

Beautifully stated :D

I am also of the view that it does no good to fret about the election and the next few years, if s*** gets crazy then s*** gets crazy. If its a calm transition (which I have directed energy towards for quite a few years now) then so it shall be.

If you spend to much time worrying about the future and not enough time hoping for it then you are helping the Negative in its final moments to take as many with it as it can....

Continue Spiraling Ever Upwards,
Austin

transiten

09-16-2008, 01:23 AM

Hi Tenet

Hello Tenet

Well just feel uneasy myself when I think thoughts like: -It's better in the end if things get worse for a while" at least if I include others, it somehow weakens my spirits and I feel like trying to play God...but like Mother Theresa said - Even if it seems meaningless to plant a tree, do it anyway...

Liliane the transit

meganarline

09-16-2008, 06:47 AM

I listened to Davids interview last night and then also Ben Fulfords interview which I finished listening to this morning. I had just finished listening to Ben's interview on my ipod and guess what the next song was that started right after? "The best is yet to come!".

I also read Earthfiles interview with Gerald Celente and these are the quotes that peaked my interest:

Another irony is that people could thrive in these times because as the old is dying, something new is being born. If there is intelligence, integrity and dignity behind the next movement, we could move into a new Renaissance, a brighter time and not a dark one

also

When are the American people find their own strength and become their own leaders? Until individual people find their own greatness within, nothing is going to change

Then I had a thought that if I look at the future in a positive way then it will turn out positive, right at that time the number in the spread sheet I was working on was 11:11.:p

It can be so easy to slip into the fear trap and little things like this keep that from happening to me.

Megan

transiten

09-16-2008, 09:09 AM

Hello meganarline

Wonderful! That's my cup of tea!

Liliane

MindOverEverything

09-16-2008, 11:45 AM

Steven Greer and the Orion Project are "trying" to get the technology. I'm a little concerned that they may sell it to the highest bidder instead of the bidder most capable to get the technology to market.

Stay focused on the highest outcome, and donate some funds to the Orion Project (too bad about the "negative" connotation with the Orions in the insider testimony...)

Love and free energy,
Cameron

I've been racking my brain and looking all over the place, because I remembered something about this date, and I think I've finally found it! :D

The Stan Meyer estate, (you know--the original and successful "run-your-car-on-water" guy) offered up all his work for bid to interested parties on Saturday, August 16th! I think the patents were expiring and they just sold all the rights to it. Man, that's gotta be it!!! Wish I knew who had the winning bid!

Tenet Nosce

09-16-2008, 11:58 AM

Well just feel uneasy myself when I think thoughts like: -It's better in the end if things get worse for a while" at least if I include others, it somehow weakens my spirits and I feel like trying to play God...but like Mother Theresa said - Even if it seems meaningless to plant a tree, do it anyway...

To be clear by "things getting worse" I mean an amplification of the contrast offered by world events. This actually increases the opportunity for them to be used as a positive catalyst.

How many people want more harmonious work, or a partner that they feel like they truly resonate with, yet at the same time are incredibly resistant to let go of what they already have?

What I'm attempting to say is that it might be better in the end if such people have the experience of losing their jobs or relationships so that, in creating the space for something more positive, they can come to the realization that they didn't really want what they had anyway.

In terms of the Law of One teaching, it only takes choosing 51% service to others to be eligble for graduation into 4D. For many people out there, and probably the vast majority of anybody on this forum, realize that that choice has already been made. Often long ago.

So when we consider things from the standpoint of "what will increase positive polarization" we may wish to keep in mind that those people who haven't already reached the threshold have failed to do so in spite of all the vast opportunities that have been presented to them in recent years.

My suggestion is that, for those people, maybe something like an economic collapse would finally provide enough catalyst for change. Certainly, times of economic prosperity (if you can really call it that), job security, fringe benefits, 401(k)s, retirement plans, and plasma screens in every living room has not been effective so far.

There really is nothing to fear. The loss of an illusion isn't such a bad thing. Yet for many of us who have been "talking the talk" so to speak, we have still been holding on to those crutches and not really "walking the walk". Now is the time to put all this theory into practice. What's the point of studying if we never get to take the test?

Finally, consider that taking all this "ascension stuff" to heart means realizing that events still need to occur in linear time to get us from here to there. Do you really expect, or even want, to spend the next few years waking up every morning, driving to work, collecting your paycheck, and sending it off to pay your mortgage, loans, credit cards, etc?

At some point we need to leave that world behind in a very real sense. Otherwise all this stuff about a "better world" is nothing more than pipe dreams.

Our current debt-based financial system is one of the primary control mechanisms that keep us locked into the 3D rat race. We should welcome the dissolution of this system, not fear it. Yet still, the transition might not be entirely comfortable, and depending on one's perspective, it may appear as things are getting worse, when in reality, this is what we have been hoping and praying for all along.

transiten

09-16-2008, 06:38 PM

Hi Tenet

Very elaborate explanation! I follow you, no doubt about that, 3D reality is paradoxical though. Often I find myself thinking and feeling something and immediately I have to state the opposite since it's there we are living, in the opposite reality, or rather illusion, of Life and Death.

Liliane transiten

johnasmodeus

09-17-2008, 12:31 AM

I like these Project Camelot interviews, but sometimes Kerry really annoys me. I think she tries too hard to steer the conversation towards the more sensational fear-oriented topics, picks fairly irrelevant information to argue over, and quite frankly, I don't think she's a very good listener. I hear and see a lot of the whole "I'm nodding my head like I'm listening but really I'm just waiting for you to finish so I can talk" sort of thing coming from her.

If she could tone some of that down, or at least be more conscious of it, I think these interviews would be a lot more valuable.

transiten

09-17-2008, 03:30 AM

I think there's an intrinsic problem with these intervewprograms and those doing the interviews. They are constantly looking for pple having something new and "interesting" to say in these areas, and just like someone interested to sell their stuff, they cannot be as discriminate as f.i. David Wilcock who's mission is to seek the truth for himself and for us. I remember when watching Karen interview S:t Clair, thinking she has to be polite to everyone, otherwise they would not come forward with their material...and at the same time I felt the unease with what he was saying, sensing the elitism in what he said and the way he said it and the way he looked while saying it, and the pitch and tone of his voice while saying it....

....but in the latest interview with David she came on rather aggressively I think, but David maintained his calm with a sharp anticipation though in his voice like he was aware of how she adressed him....but with the honesty I always here in his voice. I'm extremely sensitive and aware of things like this due to my experiences of having been manipulated and brainwashed. Also I work as a voiceliberationcoach and a singer.

Liliane transiten

Mikazo

09-17-2008, 04:19 AM

I second this.

I like these Project Camelot interviews, but sometimes Kerry really annoys me. I think she tries too hard to steer the conversation towards the more sensational fear-oriented topics, picks fairly irrelevant information to argue over, and quite frankly, I don't think she's a very good listener. I hear and see a lot of the whole "I'm nodding my head like I'm listening but really I'm just waiting for you to finish so I can talk" sort of thing coming from her.

If she could tone some of that down, or at least be more conscious of it, I think these interviews would be a lot more valuable.

Liam

09-17-2008, 05:48 AM

I agree with johnasmodeus about Kerry. I really admire the work she is doing in helping to spread awareness of these issues but it would be nice if she didn't focus so heavily on the topics that provoke fear in people. I did not like her tone during the interview when she said 'Henry Deacon is not the authority on Earth' or words to that effect when discussing the different types of ETs. She was arguing for the existence of other non-human types of ETs including 'preying mantis' types- yet even if these do exist I don't see how arguing about it makes any difference to the lives of the people who listened to the interview. It is not particularly important IMO, interesting but not important.

transiten

09-17-2008, 07:23 AM

Hi
I mean Kerry of course...I remember how "nice" she was in the 1:st interviews with David and how innocently he smiled, almost like a shy 5 year old...Now the tone has sharpened...wonder why...like a the development of a honeymoon into a day to day relationship or marriage..

Liliane

Tenet Nosce

09-19-2008, 07:33 AM

Here is my perspective on this:

On the one hand you have Kerry who seemed to be overly concerned with dragging David off into the whole reptoid thing. So there is a strain of reptoid aliens at the top of the negative elite pyramid scheme who actually feed off of negative emotional energy. Great so now that we know that, let's get back to doing whatever we were doing beforehand.

My point is, whomever is at the top of the negative pyramid is a 5D creature, and can manifest with whatever form they so desire. Is there a race of 3D snake-people? Maybe. But does it really matter what they look like?

So many of the people investigating these topics get hugely sidetracked by the reptoid thing that they lose focus of the bigger picture. They become obsessed with the reptoids, and feel compelled to steer ANY discussion of these matters to the reptoid factor. I suspect the reptoids, if they exist, find this extremely useful for their agenda.

I have close friends who are heavy into the same kind of research that David was disclosing on the show, and almost every time they gain somebody's ear who will listen long enough to the evidence, they will bring up the whole reptoid factor and usually end up discrediting everything else they said beforehand in the mind of the listener.

So, again, there ARE negatively oriented beings. Some of them are quite powerful. And one of the primary ways they sustain their power is by manipulating others into negative emotional states, and then taking their energy. Just like in Monsters, Inc. This is very important to realize. What these beings look like is rather unimportant.

On the other hand you have David, who has been making a rather strong sidepoint lately about his view that most ETs look like us. Well, again, if appearances are so unimportant, then why keep talking about it? He clearly poopoos the idea of the reptoids and the mantises, and in doing so I believe discredits himself. There is some very clear testimony out there that these types of beings do in fact exist, and anybody that has spent the last 12 years researching the subject surely has come across it by now.

I also think he is currently distorted a little too much toward the sunshine and lollipop view of world events, but he is certainly entitled to his view and made it clear that he recognizes this distortion within himself. My feeling is that he is making an effort to separate himself in the public eye from the doom and gloomers, and is doing so with good reason.

Yet still, flat out denying the possibility of some pretty troublesome or horrific events, actually only serves to further entrench the fear mongerers into the belief that they are the only ones who know the truth, and that everybody else is manipulated. One of the most effective ways I've found to maneuver this kind of conversation is to acknowledge the negative possibilities that are being offered, and then counteroffer with a more positive outcome.

If the other persists in trying to convince you of their doom and gloom scenario, simply say something like, "Golly gee willikers, Mr. Gloom, but it almost sounds to me like you want the most negative outcome here. I'm sure that's not the case, so please tell me, how do you think we can turn things more positive here?"

I think David was on the right track before when he was stressing the importance if emergent properties making predictions very difficult. The only thing one can say for certain about 2012 is that it will not go down in the manner that any one of us has previously conceived.

On the one hand, I don't believe the reptoids are going to materialize and start tearing the flesh from our bodies while we try to shoot them down with apple cider vinegar. On the other hand I don't think humanity is just going to tra-la-la our way into 4D leaving a trail of lilypads behind us.

I think that we are going to see failure at some level of every institution of society because moving forward necessitates being very clear that these institutions cannot be bandaid-ed into a state of wellness. They are broken beyond repair because they are founded in the illusion of separation. Hence they must be recreated entirely from the bottom up.

Starting over does, in the end, entail actually starting over.

dazcox

09-19-2008, 08:23 AM

Why is there such a fuss about whether or not non-human looking aliens exist?

Haven't we learned by now that reality isn't solid and one persons truth is not the next persons?

We need to stop assuming that there is one truth as the facts seem to suggest that there are multiple realities, with their own truths, superimposed upon each other.

Take a breath and lets look for the things we have in common first...

Robbyp78

09-20-2008, 04:05 PM

It was a great interviewe or discussion but i personally felt a bit annoyed with kerrys personal agenda ie Lizzards thats not too say its not true but i felt she got a bit snotty with david about it all in all though it was a great job all round :cool:

lilac

09-20-2008, 10:06 PM

I was thinking that Kerry might be bringing out alternative opinions in view of other interviews and further information she (and Bill) has gathered. Maybe she has first-hand experience? Who knows. I personally like to take in about 75% Divinecosmos and 25% projectcamelot, because Kerry and Bill are bringing in a lot of fear-based information. It's all great stuff and I am deeply grateful for it, but in my day-to-day, it is DAvid's point of view that helps me to cope, to practice being in the moment and to choose love over fear. I choose not to read into whatever tension might be in their voices. If I were talking about this stuff on tape, my voice might be a bit tense. there must be all sorts of technical and practical considerations too. I think these people are amazing peers and have great respect for each other, as they should. Did you hear the bit at the end when Kerry forgot DAvid's last name? She sounds very human and approachable to me.

transiten

09-21-2008, 01:15 AM

Hi liliac

I feel the same way as you. I first came upon the interviews with David Wilcock on Procect Camelot this Christmas and just later I realized there were lots of others that I watched afterwards and did not get the same good feeling. I think I watched every possible interview and didn't know what to think, luckily I have this forum to turn to.

If I'm supposed to buy gold for the money I inherited from my mother and start looking for pple to move away with from a place I now finally am getting better and better contact, I feel it's totally the wrong thing for me to do just now. And further more I for one am not going to undertake any big project, especially involving money and housing when mercury is turning retrograde, that is a big NO NO in the 3Dworld I'm living in, and I suppose the rest of you.

All astrological symbols are archetypes and mercury is reflecting the messenger/communicator and as I earlier stated, there's a hughe risk for misinformation, delays and misunderstandings the following 3 weeks for everyone, not just me, since this is mundane, collective astrology, and we will be in the middle of october when mercury turns direct.

There are a lot of other significant aspects in the mundane chart, reflecting what's going on and the tendencies ahead, but of course I'm leaving these out here.There are lots of astrologysites where you can look this up. But I just couldn't refrain myself for making this comment again with mercury in connection to what we're discussing what to believe or dot here.

Actually it was a strong synchronicity in that Project Camelot stated that "we" live in a world where "we" don't know our neighbours etc. and just yesterday, prior to listen to the radioshow, I had a hughe interaction with my neighbours and also others in a project thats aiming to make "Majorna" the most ecological part of a city in Europe:D and I really wish that all of us don't split up to move somewhere else just now. Most of the pple don't have any extra money to by gold for either.:(

I don't know whether David is more "reliable" because of his directcontact with the "other side/dimensions" than those in Project Camelot that report what others say, I mean, what DO I really know here? I KNOW MY GUTFEELING and I don't have the energy to go into another forum to "Find the solutions to the problems" in Procect Avalon. It would make me feel like a sheep running here and there and everywhere as soon as something New turns up. I'll stick to this website for the moment, I don't say I can't change my mind, but it's just too much at the moment and the sun is shining and I'm going to visit Mother Nature with my True Love Pajazzo (dog) and pick some Indiansummerflowers and just Be Happy and Nort Worry.

Big Hug to you Guys from Liliane the transit

transiten

09-21-2008, 01:18 AM

Oh, my post probably will be better off in the Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidythread...up to you mods.

Liliane

transiten

09-21-2008, 01:51 AM

.and another funny sync! from the junk-market (:eek: Oooops-another funny sync just popped in don't you think:D) I have little Pumbatoy that noone bought that I just put on the windowsill prir to end the last post with "Be happy, Don't worry"...Is'nt that the meaning of "Hakuna matata" from the Disneymovie with Pumba and the other guy "surikat" in swedish? :)

Hakuna Matata from Liliane the big worrier/warrioir of the subconscious, taking a break, looking for some Peace of Mind through the Pineal Gland;)

Born23EB

09-21-2008, 11:22 AM

I have a question I want to put out to the Forum concerning the Pineal gland/Stargate. David in the course of the interview mentioned that the there is a micro crystalline matrix type structure inside the gland. What I am wondering is if this structure is Tetrahedral in its formation. If it is, then it would reflect a Merkaba type of tuning ability that is present within. Anybody that can point to documented studies, please send me a PM or jump off here with your thoughts on this. Thank you all.

harmonyart

09-21-2008, 01:13 PM

This is a great link for a visual on the brain and pineal.

http://www.humanityinunity.org/HIU/Teaching-Practice/BrainIllumination/index.cfm

I like Sai Maa, but not a devotee. The Brain Illumination Mediation is easy to do and she provides the written instructions on the site. From there you can visualize the tetrahedron and see what happens..remember it spins.

bright blessings,

gwen
http://mysite.verizon.net/harmonyart

Joshua

09-22-2008, 02:18 AM

WoW!!! That was EXTREMELY uplifting for me so I must thank you guys for putting that together. It's good to know that others really do understand. I do have one inquiry. Edwin Gray solved the energy crisis over twenty years ago with his three amazing patents. Why do more people not know about his work, or talk about it?

transiten

09-23-2008, 04:00 PM

Hello!

I just listened a second time to the interview and the thought struck me: Why do we have to ascend from this earth if things are changing so much for the better as David says? Is it that the new technology will follow those who leace 3D to 4D? Do we even need wind- and solarpower in 4D? Who is going to benfit from the positive development? Yhe STS:es who stay on 3D Earth????

Liliane the transit

SuperManny

09-23-2008, 10:04 PM

Why do we have to ascend from this earth if things are changing so much for the better as David says? Is it that the new technology will follow those who leace 3D to 4D?
Hi Liliane the transit!:D
Hmm... Well I don't know that we "have to," actually go anywhere... I think it's more... something like an evolutionary process.

It's kinda like our group is just finishing up 3rd grade, and most of us are excitedly looking forward to 4th grade. Now of course we won't all be going to fourth grade, because some of us haven't been in third grade long enough and it's very important that we learn all the third grade lessons thoroughly, because this is where we choose our... 'curriculum', I guess you'd call it.

So the ones who choose the STS curriculum will be going to a different school and the ones who need more time in third grade will be going to yet another different school. So we are actually the ones that are staying, and yes I expect that we will definitely be enjoying all the changes for the better; like the new technology, etc.:)

transiten

09-23-2008, 10:46 PM

Hello SuperManny

...but I remember reading in some thread that the underground STS:es and some left on the surface are those staying on the heavily destroyed Earth and the 4D:s will live in a parallel dimension of the earth so to speak. Those doing the 3D-lesson over again will move to another planet, and the 95% negative STS:es will ascend but not interact with the 51% positive STO:s...

Gosh, this is reallly dificult to grasp...I'm off to "Paradisland" with my dog today; :)is shining it will be a beautiful Indiansummerday and I'm now waiting for the rainbowdots to appear on my wall as the sun hits my crystalball hanging in the window..

Hope the ability to understand this is not required for ascension;)

Liliane

last_apoc

09-24-2008, 10:42 AM

I am most amazed by the talk of a failed ww3 attempt! To think, I could have been drafted, forced to fight and killed just because of someones secret agenda, then I would have to hope that I find this site all over again in the next life :rolleyes:

AllyKat

09-24-2008, 09:55 PM

I actually looked at the clock at 11:10 while i was listening to this interview and also saw 11:10 again while glancing at how many minutes into the interview i was. After meditating on what that meant for a moment the thought of "its not what i'm supposed to be concerned with" bubbled into my consciousness. i dont think davids information was inacurate or unimportant i just think my higher self was trying to give me the message that i'm not suposed to really even think of or research or be concerned with these issues i just need to stay focused on the love and light and forgiveness i am practicing based on "A Course In Miracles" just thought i would share this becasue i saw others expressing similar thoughts. I do see the point in david wanting to get this info out there i think its more relevant to those who aren't as awake to what is going on in the government. i for one am certain i have all the info about that subject that i need.

SuperManny

09-27-2008, 08:00 PM

Hello SuperManny

...but I remember reading in some thread that the underground STS:es and some left on the surface are those staying on the heavily destroyed Earth and the 4D:s will live in a parallel dimension of the earth so to speak....
Liliane
Well, I'm strictly going from memory, here, but I'm pretty sure Ra didn't say anything like that. I believe that came from Dan Burish - not real sure.

I think Ra specifically said that there would be nobody here on 3D earth for a very long time, maybe never. One of the reasons they gave for this is that we first need to learn to make ourselves invisible to third density. It would be just too disconcerting for the 3D'ers to see us popping in and out at times, until we gained complete control over our new abilities.

Now there are however a thousand parallel realities where the events you mentioned may occur. Several of these are now in a kind of a state of flux, and some realities and timelines that are similar to ours may have occasional bleed-throughs, because of their porosity. So if you pay attention, you will sometimes catch little things that are not the way you'd always remembered them...[Man, I could swear she always drove a white car....etc] ;)

transiten

09-28-2008, 10:39 AM

OK...like the guy seeing houses and holes in the ground one day, and the other day they re not there? That was a total new phenomenon for me....I just recently learned to get information directly, without astrology or cards as a helper, like pictures in my head about what a person is going through, or have great interest in....

Anyway, Que sera. sera as the old song goes....

Liliane

LucidJia

02-13-2009, 08:08 PM

Ive got a question that someone here might be able to answer. I have watched the project camelot interviews with David and I have also watched the 2012 enigma lecture at the concious life expo post conference by David.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...48613711060908

Now I mabey completly wrong (hope so) but I remember in the project camelot interview he said that Daniel was just an ordinary guy that slowly worked his way up the ranks in the mantauk project and eventually got to know the secrets and mysterys. Where in the concious life expo lecture he said that daniel was a very gifted person that was a big part of the mantauk project as he could activate the jump gate and was very psychic.

This has put allot of doubt in my mind as to if this guy is genuine or not. I have not had enough time to go back to both interviews and confirm this yet but I think this is what I heard.

Any clarification would be great. Cheers.