2010, Lucifer the sun

[heck]

Hello,

This is my first post to the forums. Over the last few weeks I've been rapidly absorbing a lot of new material, and today I believe that I had an insight. Or at the very least I connected a few coincidental things which when put together... are kind of interesting.

In a nutshell, I wouldn't be surprised that in the year 2010, a new star called "Lucifer" will show up in the skies to mark the coming of the Anti-Christ.

I've been reading a lot of Neal Adam's theory that the Earth and all the planets are growing. His videos of the expanding and stretching tectonic crusts are awesome. I can only imagine that this process is happening to Jupiter as well, although hidden under layers of clouds. I was going to email him to ask if he's considered the growth of fractals as the underlying pattern of our solar system's growth. I'm willing to bet the data matches. But I digress...

If the planets are expanding, that means eventually Jupiter will eventually reach enough mass to start a fusion chain reaction and become a sun. Wait I've heard of that idea before... yes the book by Arthur C. Clarke called 2010 where at the very end, Jupiter becomes a sun. In the book, it was the result of alien intervention, whereas in reality it could just be a natural process. When I read the latter books (2061 and 3001) I kind of wondered why they called the new sun "Lucifer". It seemed out of place, and that it should have been reserved for darker things.

Plus, I think the Bible mentions a star in the sky marking the coming of the Anti-Christ.

Plus, he called the book 2010 which is an interesting year. I think I've read on Divine Cosmos that this is the year in which the negative elite (Illuminati) are rushing to finalize their agenda.


So maybe that kind of thing is actually going to happen. A new star being born.

-heck

[note from moderator: since heck appears not to have read David's ebooks here, I invite him to do so-some of his questions above may be answered]

[heck]

Hey Chris,

I'm still absorbing quite a bit a material, and I haven't gotten to his e-books yet. Sorry if my post was uninformed or hasty. I just had a clear set of thoughts that I wanted to share before I forgot.

thanks,
heck

P.S. Any recommendations on which e-book(s) to start with? Thanks.

[Note from moderator: thanks heck. Your post was not uninformed or hasty, just from your viewpoint :) ...... That is perfectly ok too. Would anyone like to help out heck with his e-book question?]

[Lorigga]

Chris,
I'm a pretty new member to DC as well. While slowly increasing my involvement I've been reading over the Ra / Law of One material, which according to my understanding, serves as a foundation for Davids material.

Here's where I started, the Ra / Law of One study guide:
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=6&id=23&Itemid=36

There are formatting issues, but all the info is there. Judging from the tone of many posts, particularly by senior members, I think this series best encapsulates the motivation for these forums. I think it will also contribute to your current insight and bring a whole other perspective for you to integrate into your current framework of understanding.

As of now I'm waiting to receive my copy of the Law of One via Amazon so I can get a good foundation before diving into David's more scientifically motivated material.

Best,
Lorenzo

[Mozart]

Regarding the Anti-Christ, I have my own theory, as described below.


I have read many, many different theories about the alleged appearance of the much-heralded appearance of the Anti-Christ, so I don't really know which one would be the most-accurate one, presuming the "validity" of the idea of the appearance of the Anti-Christ.


Like the much-heralded appearance of the "Messiah" 2,000 years ago, there were a number of people who could have performed the role of this kind of man; likewise, there may be a number of people who may have been groomed for the role of the Anti-Christ in today's world.


Without the approach of the 2012 Event Horizon, the possible appearance of the Anti-Christ likely has a high probability of happening, as the elites would want to orchestrate his appearance in order to get the masses of people to do the elite's bidding. But the rapid approach of the 2012 Event Horizon certainly has changed the elite's plans on total world domination by 2050 AD. Now they know for certain that they won't be able to be effectively on 3-D earth as we know it beyond 2012, so this wrecks their plans based on 2050 AD.


At the time of Princess Diana's death, the certainty of the 2012 Event Horizon was not yet widely accepted in the upper circles of power in the elites, so they likely were actively planning on creating an Anti-Christ scenario that would serve their purposes. It is strongly evident that Princess Diana was around 4 months pregnant at that time, with the father being Dodi Fayed, who was of the Arab race and the nephew of Adnan Khashoggi, a famed Arab arms dealer. Dodi Fayed's father, who is still alive today, insists very strongly to this day that Diana was already several months pregnant by his son, Dodi.


Normally the idea of an offspring between Princess Diana, who is of blue-blood Illoonynaughty bloodline, and Dodi Fayed, an Arab, would be completely untenable to the Illoonynaughties. It is very likely that they had her murdered for this reason; however, the idea of an offspring--a son, especially--between Diana and Dodi would be perfect, imo, to create an Anti-Christ who would eventually be placed in power/influence in the world sometime in the 2040s as a way of creating an appearance of unification between the Christian world and the Arab/Muslim world, both worlds of which would have been involved in a decades-long "clash of civilizations" that would have torn the world apart by the consequences of endless wars on "trr".


Diana was ritualistically murdered and the substantial evidence of that is available on the net. Part of the available information was that she was pregnant and that there was an unusual 2-hour delay of some kind immediately after Diana's alleged death time. I think that in that delay of time was the time when the baby was removed from Diana before she died and that this baby--who would now be 10 years old--may be alive and well somewheres attending some rich, private school somewhere.


An offspring from Diana and Dodi would have been perfect for a future Anti-Christ, I think, but now with the hard reality amongst the elites about the rapidly-approaching 2012 Event Horizon, this changes the probabilities associated with the idea of an appearance/need of the Anti-Christ. Diana's kid...let's call him Damien...would be too young to do anything effective between now and 2012, ergo, the idea of the Anti-Christ may now be a train wreck.


Just a transient theory.


~Seth

[billybobbutterball]

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So maybe that kind of thing is actually going to happen. A new star being born.

-heck

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Hi, Heck

billywhatever here.

I can't recall the source of the info but going back to the turn of the century there was speculation that one of our plutonium-loaded space probes -- on its way to a collision with Jupiter -- would provide the nuclear explosive "spark" that would transform Jupitor into a sun. But it seems that the high density pressure of jupitor screwed up that 4th of July type scenario from taking place. In other words, it fizzled out, and draped a wet blanket over gleefully expectant Illuminati and fellow Luciferians.:p

billybob

[MarkM]

As I recall reading somewhere, there were also some similar expectations at the time of the Shoemaker-Levy comet strike.

[AndrewCalder]

I have heard the term 'Maitreya' used in reference to this big bad leader. I recall [a predictor] blatantly say the Anti-Christ was born in 1962.

Also I believe that he would be an American leader with a great amount of charisma and that he will be widely accepted, although I would assume it has to do with the already-hopeless state we are in.

The idea of Jupiter becoming something else, a star, right in front of our eyes, kind of resonates with me. At the same time I don't think our first sun likes to share -I perceive it as a negative entity of sorts- (mainly because I burn badly^^)

P,s: I vaguely recall [A predictor] say that millions of humans would be left behind, and that the hidden society would still try to control them, even so far as saying those who left were eaten by demons.

Peace

[soup]

So somewhere in DW's "Project Camelot" videos seemed mention of a Philidelphia Experiment which opened a portal between Time Space and Space Time.

I can remember some "Dark Star" concept being shared on the Project Camelot "Big Picture" sharing.
http://www.projectcamelot.net/big_picture.html

[note from moderator: please note that this article contains compilations of many authors and that the information may be distorted-please use your own discretion]

So if it is feasible to open such a portal, how big of a portal can be opened, can say a "Dark Star" fit through?


I can remember reading about Jupiter's black spot incident on the Enterprise Mission website. Maybe its related somehow.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html

[Petri]

Hi everyone. You get contradictory information on Jupiter igniting as a sun. I will set aside the scientific fact, that Jupiter is 80 times to light - end of story. Instead I will go with what-if there is (historically, again) something unexpected, unexplainable and unknown to even top scientists.

So; what if Jupiter were to ignite as a sun, are we talking plans of the badguys or divine plan? I am bothered by this contradiction of both possibilities, and claims actually. Without any more speculation I ask that could you David clarify this issue a bit. That would be most appreciated. Sometimes it is difficult to distinguish what´s what.

Petri

[Petri]

One thing more. I once read a channel saying that Jupiters ignition would most likely be around Jan-Feb of 2008 when Jupiter is behind the sun relative to us. So that it will not be to blinding at first coming from same direction and as far as possible. And yes, I checked with a astronomical software that Jupiter is accurately in the same level in the sky as sun especially by the end of feb 2008. So that would be accurate.

Petri

[Chris Hamilton]

[originally from heck]
If the planets are expanding, that means eventually Jupiter will eventually reach enough mass to start a fusion chain reaction and become a sun.

I did some checking into this because I had read somewhere a long time ago that Jupiter just wasn't big enough to become a star. When I googled, I found that to become a star, there must be a basic type of fusion where 4 hydrogen nucleii combine into one helium-4 nucleus with a corresponding photon release. Below certain temperatures and pressures, fusion is not self-sustaining. The minimum size for this is measured as .08 solar masses (based on our sun's dynamics). However, Jupiter is only .001 solar masses, so it would have to be 80 times more massive to even become a minimum brown dwarf. Even with David's solar system expansion theories, I do not believe Jupiter could amass that much more hydrogen to become that big. Even doubling in size would mean it was only .002 solar masses. Chris

[billybobbutterball]

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So maybe that kind of thing is actually going to happen. A new star being born.

-heck

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Hi, Heck

billywhatever here.

I can't recall the source of the info but going back to the turn of the century there was speculation that one of our plutonium-loaded space probes -- on its way to a collision with Jupiter -- would provide the nuclear explosive "spark" that would transform Jupitor into a sun. But it seems that the high density pressure of jupitor screwed up that 4th of July type scenario from taking place. In other words, it fizzled out, and draped a wet blanket over gleefully expectant Illuminati and fellow Luciferians.:p

billybob

I refreshed my memory....

Did NASA "nuke" Jupiter with 40 pounds of plutonium? Could be. See what Richard Hoagland has to say about it!

http://www.enterprisemission.com//NukingJupiter.html

billylight:)

[Petri]

I checked Jupiters position more accurately. It will be directly behind sun relative to us at christamstime this year. Beginning around of winter solstice and few days from there behind the sun, after that gradually making it´s way nearer to us.

[SuperManny]

P.S. Any recommendations on which e-book(s) to start with? Thanks.
Hey guys, there's a very nice collection of pdfs here (http://www.sonsofthelawofone.com/pdfs.html), including a nice clean version of the Study Guide, a lot of material by David, Ra and others. Check it out.

[heck]

Hey guys, there's a very nice collection of pdfs here (http://www.sonsofthelawofone.com/pdfs.html), including a nice clean version of the Study Guide, a lot of material by David, Ra and others. Check it out.

Thank you so much SuperManny. This collection of pdf files is much cleaner and easier to read.

-heck

[daresh]

also don't forget DW his free ebooks,
shift of ages,
science of oneness,
divine cosmos
together with the law of one
etc...

they will shed some light and give you the perspective of the law of one and the community here. There is nothing in there as far as I know about an anti-christ, or a personification of it...

[Petri]

The topic has somehow ran out track ;) I understood the topic was originally about Jupiters possible ignition as a star, not antichrist. I also found the pdf-collection remarkably good, thanks for that. Does anyone have ideas/insight about this process concerning Jupiter? It would be logical to have two suns in our solar system, I understand that one-sun systems are a minority in universe?

[daresh]

This is not a very good source but on wikipedia they say that 25-50% are double or more star systems.
Here is something more about if jupiter had become a star:
"If Jupiter Had Become a Star . . .
We note in this connection that if Jupiter had been about 100 times more massive than it is, it would have formed a star instead of a planet. Thus, maybe the Solar System very nearly became a binary star system instead of a single star with planets. We may speculate that in that case the Earth might not even exist, or even if it existed would be in an orbit giving surface conditions not favorable to the evolution of life."
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/solarsys/binary.html

I'm not sure if a lot of binary star systems are supposed to be very closely revolving around eachother. I once read that our solar system is revolving around another solar system. But I'm not sure where I read that or if this is true.... But if it would be true then it probobly already is a binary star system?

greets,
Filip