Global Warming

[Dihlon]

i'm sure she is derided by the "established" scientific community(who probably quietly know its true). what is so great about all of this suppression and secrecy is that what was said by so many before us is actually happening right now. "for now we see through a glass darkly; but thenface to face: now i know in part; but thenshall i know even as also i am known." (i corninthians 13:12)

[JoshERTW]

this is the first time i've seen this anywhere in the mainstream, but an article on discovery news discusses among other things, warming elsewhere in the solar system.

http://news.discovery.com/earth/climate-myths-and-questions-part-iii.html

[Dihlon]

did you notice how in one breath he is putting forth the notion of warming on pluto and mars and then turns right around and goes into a litany about how this could be explained away? just more double-speak, ala, discovery/history channel. do you remember how dissatisfying syfy channel handling of the 2012 subject matter was? its very difficult to ever get any new knowledge from the established sources we have in place now.

[Billuminous]

following up on previous info that i have posted on same subject.

unstable siberian arctic shelf leaking greenhouse gas methane

fairbanks, alaska, march 9, 2010 (ens) - a siberian section of the arctic ocean seafloor that stores vast amounts of frozen methane is showing signs of instability and is venting the potent greenhouse gas, an international research team reported friday.

the permafrost under the east siberian arctic shelf, long thought to be an impermeable barrier sealing in the methane, is perforated and is starting to leak seven to eight million tonnes of methane each year into the atmosphere.

the scientists said release of even a fraction of the methane stored in the shelf could trigger abrupt climate warming.

"the amount of methane currently coming out of the east siberian arctic shelf is comparable to the amount coming out of the entire world's oceans," said university of alaska fairbanks scientist natalia shakhova, a researcher at the university's international arctic research center. "subsea permafrost is losing its ability to be an impermeable cap."

continued...
http://www.ecofactory.com/news/unstable-siberian-arctic-shelf-leaking-greenhouse-gas-methane-030910

[transiten]

hi

since i live in the west of sweden the shut down of the gulf stream would have a geat impact on my life....i'm lucky to love snow and skeeing, this winter has been snowy sunny and wonderful in gothenburg, usually there's no snow and a lot of clouds, rain and fog....

"fossile evidence clearly demonstrate the earth vs climate can shift gears within a decade establishing new and different patterns that can persist for decades to centuries. in addition, these climate shifts do not necessarily have universal global effects. they can generate a counterintuitive scenario: even as the earth as a whole continues tp warm gradually, large regions may experience precipitious and disruptive shifts into colder weather"

http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?cid=9986&pid=12455&tid=282

this goes well together with davids theory about global warming in the entire solarsystem.

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[ILoveCoffee]

i have never read "an inconvenient truth" by al gore, but i did go to the site. a friend of mine also believes in global warming but another friend of mine strongly does not (she says there's nothing that can be done about co 2 and doesn't like al gore at all).

i still need to read more about the solar system and cycles. however, it's fair and true to say that if the sunlight is affecting the earth's atmosphere it certainly can affect the other planets' atmospheres, too. i heard that another possibility is that mars alone is causing it with it's co 2. there was a time when i didn't believe in global warming, (climate change) but i do now.

[LightEye]

dear friends,

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=page.view&pageid=155225

be well, be love.

david

new ice age 'to begin in 2014'
russian scientist to alarmists: 'sun heats earth!'
posted: may 17, 2010
8:42 pm eastern
by jerome r. corsi
© 2010 worldnetdaily

chicago – a new "little ice age" could begin in just four years, predicted habibullo abdussamatov, the head of space research at st. petersburg's pulkovo astronomical observatory in russia.

abdussamatov was speaking yesterday at the heartland institute's fourth international conference on climate change in chicago, which began sunday and ends today.

the little ice age, which occurred after an era known in scientific circles as the medieval warm period, is typically defined as a period of about 200 years, beginning around 1650 and extending through 1850.

in the first of a two-part video wnd recorded at the conference, abdussamatov explained that average annual sun activity has experienced an accelerated decrease since the 1990s. in 2005-2008, he said, the earth reached the maximum of the recent observed global-warming trend.

[Agon]

dear friends,

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=page.view&pageid=155225

be well, be love.

david

new ice age 'to begin in 2014'
russian scientist to alarmists: 'sun heats earth!'
posted: may 17, 2010
8:42 pm eastern
by jerome r. corsi
© 2010 worldnetdaily

chicago – a new "little ice age" could begin in just four years, predicted habibullo abdussamatov, the head of space research at st. petersburg's pulkovo astronomical observatory in russia.

abdussamatov was speaking yesterday at the heartland institute's fourth international conference on climate change in chicago, which began sunday and ends today.

the little ice age, which occurred after an era known in scientific circles as the medieval warm period, is typically defined as a period of about 200 years, beginning around 1650 and extending through 1850.

in the first of a two-part video wnd recorded at the conference, abdussamatov explained that average annual sun activity has experienced an accelerated decrease since the 1990s. in 2005-2008, he said, the earth reached the maximum of the recent observed global-warming trend.

those who ascend into 4d in 2012 are good to go. it may take longer for those who aren't yet ready. i believe only those left behind who are negative people and have negative morals are to experience this "little ice age".

[ILoveCoffee]

i don't doubt we could have another ice age. there have been times during september last year when it would be almost cold. it used to be very unusual to have cooler temperatures at certain times, and now it's not. it started getting really cold even in early october here, and a few years back, it would still be very, very hot- well, especially in september. around 2000 or 2001, one could still feel the heat in office hallways or school hallways, as it seemed to pour throughout the hallways-even with airconditioning units being on.

[LightEye]

dear friends,

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/06/08/legal-beagle-says-manmade-global-warming-science-doesn%e2%80%99t-withstand-scrutiny/#more-20322

be well, be love.

david

legal beagle says: manmade global warming science doesn’t withstand scrutiny
posted on june 8, 2010 by anthony watts
from lawrence solomon at the financial post:

a cross examination of global warming science conducted by the university of pennsylvania’s institute for law and economics has concluded that virtually every claim advanced by global warming proponents fail to stand up to scrutiny.

he found that the climate establishment does not follow the scientific method. instead, it “seems overall to comprise an effort to marshal evidence in favor of a predetermined policy preference.”

the cross-examination, carried out by jason scott johnston, professor and director of the program on law, environment and economy at the university of pennsylvania law school, found that “on virtually every major issue in climate change science, the [reports of the un’s intergovernmental panel on climate change] and other summarizing work by leading climate establishment scientists have adopted various rhetorical strategies that seem to systematically conceal or minimize what appear to be fundamental scientific uncertainties or even disagreements.”

professor johnson, who expressed surprise that the case for global warming was so weak, systematically examined the claims made in ipcc publications and other similar work by leading climate establishment scientists and compared them with what is found in the peer-edited climate science literature. he found that the climate establishment does not follow the scientific method. instead, it “seems overall to comprise an effort to marshal evidence in favor of a predetermined policy preference.”

[LightEye]

dear friends,

http://www.suite101.com/content/evidence-of-solar-scientists-raise-fears-of-imminent-ice-age-a288855

be well, be love.

david

evidence of solar scientists raise fears of imminent ice age
by john o'sullivan
published sep 22, 2010

new study by american solar experts discover a sharp fall in sunspot activity since 2007 that shows the hallmarks of a soon arriving ice age.

solar scientists, not to be confused with climate scientists, study the most important heat engine driving our planet’s temperatures-the sun.

matthew penn and william livingston, solar astronomers with the national solar observatory (nso) in tucson, arizona, have found a marked decrease in sunspot activity lately. studies show that such a marked drop in sunspots may lead to a prolonged cooling epoch or even a new ice age.

since the formation of the intergovernmental panel on climate change (ipcc) in 1988 the talk has been about global warming. but 22 years on the evidence has grown to raise fears of a catastrophic climate switch in the opposite direction. we look at the evidence that is raising some very serious questions in the scientific community.

[Xisto]

for whatever reason, if any, the lapse in the forum has taken us back to this point. ;)

so i'll try my best to live up to this synchronicity by offering this view, a fascinating read:

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2002/01/07/020107fa_fact

the new yorker

annals of science

ice memory
does a glacier hold the secret of how civilization began—and how it may end?
by elizabeth kolbert

january 7, 2002

ice, like water, flows, and so the north greenland ice-core project, or north grip, lies in the center of the island, along a line known as the ice divide. this is a desolate spot eight degrees north of the arctic circle, but, thanks to the new york air national guard, not actually all that difficult to reach. the research station is open from mid-may to mid-august, and every season the guard provides some half-dozen flights to it, using specially ski-equipped lc-130s. the planes, also outfitted with small rockets, can land directly on the ice, which stretches for hundreds of miles in every direction. (to the extent that there is a military justification for the flights, it is to keep pilots in practice; however, the main purpose of practicing seems to be to make the flights—an arrangement whose logic i could never quite fathom.) this past june, i flew up to north grip on a plane that was carrying several thousand feet of drilling cable, a group of glaciologists, and denmark’s then minister of research, a stout, red-haired woman named birthe weiss. like the rest of us, the minister had to sit in the hold, wearing military-issue earplugs.

[Xisto]

the engine behind this massive wastefulness and pollution is our for profit society. things are set up in such a way so that we will have to continuously replenish what we already have with the newest, latest, and hottest products on the market. even if we want to we can’t keep what we have, because the products being produced today are designed to break down or become obsolete in a very short period of time. i hear older people say all the time that they just don’t make things like they used to. some examples of this are cell phones, cars, and even clothes. it used to be 50 years ago, that you bought something and kept it for many decades, or for your entire life. now we get rid of things every week or every month to be replaced with more junk that will break down or become obsolete. this is an unnecessary perpetual cycle which was created to line the pockets of those who own the world’s largest corporations. they want to keep us buying their products and keep us in debt by doing so.

most people are not really aware of the mind blowing waste of resources that get thrown out every day, or the amount that is actually consumed. here is a tiny taste of what i am talking about: http://www.theglobalintelligencer.com/december07/chrisjordan.php

http://www.storyofstuff.com/

[LightEye]

dear friends,

http://www.helium.com/items/2083868-magnetic-polar-shifts-causing-massive-global-superstorms

be well, be love.

david

magnetic polar shifts causing massive global superstorms
by terrence aym

nasa has been warning about it…scientific papers have been written about it…geologists have seen its traces in rock strata and ice core samples…

now "it" is here: an unstoppable magnetic pole shift that has sped up and is causing life-threatening havoc with the world's weather.

forget about global warming—man-made or natural—what drives planetary weather patterns is the climate and what drives the climate is the sun's magnetosphere and its electromagnetic interaction with a planet's own magnetic field.

when the field shifts, when it fluctuates, when it goes into flux and begins to become unstable anything can happen. and what normally happens is that all hell breaks loose.

magnetic polar shifts have occurred many times in earth's history. it's happening again now to every planet in the solar system including earth.

the magnetic field drives weather to a significant degree and when that field starts migrating superstorms start erupting.

[Xisto]

thanks a lot for that, light eye!

this is a quote from the article, showing that one and the same kind of result remains consistent in the examination of many different sources of information that have come to my attention for the last nine years:

"(...)

so, the start of a new ice age is marked by a magnetic pole reversal, increased volcanic activity, larger and more frequent earthquakes, tsunamis, colder winters, superstorms and the halting of the earth's precessional wobble.

unfortunately, all of those conditions are being met."

as a man who has seen this coming for all that time, i've always tried to do my best to be of service to others by alerting their attention to the information pertaining a new ice age.

this has been going on since 2002.

right now, when we are already being heavily affected by the chain of cause and consequence, this duty has become mandatory.

although personally not seeing another ice age in itself as a cause for panic, i see it as a cause for alarm.

i just have to acknowledge that the recognition of the impending fact does indeed seem to become almost like an obligation in these times in which we now live, and thus the red button must go down.

that information would be so in need of being belt out into the winds of change because once we put all the pieces together and add to them a lack of proper information, there is a possibility that, for being poorly informed (if at all), many of the people on the planet will become unnecessarily exposed to the effects not only of the ice age itself, but also to the many factors that, all combined, are at work to make it become our next weather window.

i guess it is about time that we all joined togther and started claiming for yet another disclosure. ;)

these seem to be questions that impose themselves: what are our governments doing about this? is there a plan? if so, what is it?

we must learn to know, as well as all the people.

can we help? how?

[12thUranus]

i freezing my behind in texas. (i'm a wimp when it comes to cold weather)
i'm wondering, if we create our environment as a collective, then this weather is manifested by all the new residents from northern parts of the world.

y'all gonna cause me to move to mexico if y'all keep this up :confused:\


"no shoes, no shirt, no problems"

[Berry Chastain]

i am with you 100% 12thuranus. i am in the dallas area and i can't remember anytime in the last 33 years since i have been here that it has been so consistantly arctic. all i can say is what global warming???

[Xisto]

i am with you 100% 12thuranus. i am in the dallas area and i can't remember anytime in the last 33 years since i have been here that it has been so consistantly arctic. all i can say is what global warming???
hi, berry!

did you read the article posted here?

in the long run, global warming actually causes cooling.

it's in how the climate system balance works.

[Rich1111]

huh? there has not been warming for over a decade.. the planet has been cooling and will continue to cool for the next 60-70 years as the sun takes a long earned break. the atmosphere is cooling, you can find heaps of scientific papers on this, and the planet will continue to cool over the decades ahead. the warming that took place is now over and yes we can all agree it had nothing to do with man because temp changes preceed co2 levels so how can we have caused it? sure we play a small role here but it's quite miniscule overall..

[Jeia Ra Manuk]

climate change threatens world peace: un boss
'unholy brew' a global security issue

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/climate+change+threatens+world+peace+boss/5142255/story.html

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[Millsley]

this news item slipped past the radar, i think david would enjoy this link into his own research on interplanetary climate change as well.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100102296/sun-causes-climate-change-shock/


the science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but al gore, the ipcc and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. the new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on earth.

the research, published with little fanfare this week in the prestigious journal nature, comes from über-prestigious cern, the european organization for nuclear research, one of the world’s largest centres for scientific research involving 60 countries and 8,000 scientists at more than 600 universities and national laboratories. cern is the organization that invented the world wide web, that built the multi-billion dollar large hadron collider, and that has now built a pristinely clean stainless steel chamber that precisely recreated the earth’s atmosphere.

in this chamber, 63 cern scientists from 17 european and american institutes have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done — demonstrate that cosmic rays promote the formation of molecules that in earth’s atmosphere can grow and seed clouds, the cloudier and thus cooler it will be. because the sun’s magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach earth’s atmosphere (the stronger the sun’s magnetic field, the more it shields earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on earth.

i like that the article also gets into how it is being brushed under the rug.