Blood of Jesus Christ

[theodorepong]

how is that for a strong fundamentalist reference to make most of the ordinary metaphysical community a little uncomfortable? in conservative fundamentalist christianity we hear so much about, "river of blood" and hell fire and brimstone as punishment if you don't just accept the whole package without question or doubt, never mind how strong your fear or guilt or doubt might really be. yet the known fact that david's own last incarnation, (edgar cayce) started out as highly conservative fundamentalist, sadly enough got in the way of much of what cayce might have been able reveal, at least that is my understanding.

i just recently had what i personally believe is an inner revalation on that subject, and i would appreciate any comments, especially from david. i am not getting this from "da vinci code," my information comes from readings, and friends, pre-dating davinci code by more than 20 years.

i believe that jesus christ married mary magdalene, and i also believe they had more than one child. these children had many descendents, very quickly. a simple differential equation assuming a reasonably low rate of expansion of that blood line including downstream infant mortality and other early death factors, still allows less than 30 or 40 generations for the blood line to spread so thoroughly, that i personally do not believe i could find a human being on earth today who is not directly descended from jesus christ, unless i could find some remote heavily inbred mountain aborigine tribe that never had any interaction with the outside world. possibly a member of such a tribe might not carry the blood of jesus christ in his veins.

i personally believe that one of the major reasons jesus christ came into incarnation was to inject into the race of humans, literally into the physical blood line, a spark of redeeming divinity that would, and does indeed now play an important but subtle role in the ascension in only a few more years.

[Robert Riedel]

hey theodore,

i think your nailing something down here. what if, them pesky aliens aren't the only ones that had knowledge of human dna, genetics, and such, and the "jesus' had a plan spanning generations, and milennia, to infuse certain genitic material into the human genome, that would make the second coming involve not one, but millions of humans, capable of truely connecting with the god force, with ease? boy, i'd sure like to see that movie- or, perhaps we're all already playing our parts in it!

bob

let's rock this world!!!

[leo scone]

what your saying fits with what i have been coming to understand theodore. the "second coming" as i understand it, and as you are proposing, is individual and "internal" for all of us at the same time, not some "external" event of a galvanizing personality arriving to lay down the new way. of course, with the purported return there is the matter of the apocalypse to cope with. i know i've been experiencing the apocalypse for several years now! wikipedia defines the literal root of the word to mean "the lifting of the veil", and apokalupsis eschaton as meaning "revelation at the end of the world." so, while we are having the expected earth changes, the whole death and destruction scenario is not what the apocalypse is all about. the apocalypse is just as personal, individual, and "internal" as the second coming. there will be death and destruction, but mostly it is of crumbling belief systems and emotional biases fading away in the light of the revelations inherent in waking to christ consciousness and 4d. sadly, some belief systems are likely so entrenched that the new understandings will simply not be allowed in. they are those that will likely find these times most difficult and be at greatest risk that their "internal" apocalypse begins to spill into their "external" reality. indeed such events may bring death and destruction to one's physical being. but to each as their evolution requires, eh? best to reach up and grab that veil and start pulling! isn't that the beauty of this site? it, and folk like you and i and robert and all, helps to lay more hands with better grips upon that sucker.

let's pull down the veil!

love, blessings, and abundance,

frank-o

[vexstar]

i would not say that you nailed anything when it comes to jesus. i believe jesus did in fact leave his blood line in our little test tube of existence. i would not consider the number of decendents to be in the millions, since mathematicaly impossible, since his decendents would have a sense of monogomy and not dna spewing heathens, or perhaps like myself and not procreating. this number may only be a thousand gross. that number seems to stick in my head for some reason. hmmmm? 144,000

o.k., i bow to a much more defined and calculated math, but how many are alive today? what percent of nearly six billion? you do the math, i have a thirty two pound gouper to fry.

as for pesky aliens, there is no such thing. they are either watchers or e.t.s and if they have an influence on the human condition, then they were meant to be.

i recently discovered many truths about jesus and the bible by divine intervention. [note from moderator: url listed is a shareware zip program (may not be free as claimed)-please email vexstar if intersted] these writings (free!!!) reveal that much of the bible was fabricated by the "negative~elite" of the time, in order to keep the masses under control and in fear of the so called named. for one example: jesus tells of how there were no crowds at his crucifying, only soldiers, and that fact that the things he said supposedly as he hung on the cross, are truly fabrications.

so, in discovering these truths, (which have been in my possesions for months now, but i have been so busy researching other matters, that i just never had a chance to get around to them.) i now understand why the christian dogma i tried to interject into this forum caused others to consider me a pesky poster.

consider me what you wish, all will be revealed, as we all know. so why get your undies in an uproar over trivial facts, such as global warming. and yes won't it be a surprise when "we" :rolleyes: do make that direct connection with the god force. hope you're in that movie bob and not watching it from the audience. lol

[MarkM]

if a couple living 2000 years ago had, say, three children, their grandchildren might number, say, 11 children after 20 years. these 11 might have, say, 38 kids 20 years later,105 next gen., 450 next, 1800 next, 6000 next, 22,000 next, 80,000 next, 300,000 next, 1,000,000 next, now we're 250 years gone with @ one million descendants and that's probably a conservative figure even allowing for celibacy and early death. even if you cut this figure in half (i.e., 500,000 circa 250 a.d.) you're up to @ twenty million by 325 a.d.!

now i believe that this brings up a very interesting point, in that most if not all the western world's population can be descended from, for the sake of argument, one person, mitochondrial mary if you will.;)

so now, each of us can be potentially directly descended from jesus as well as being directly descended from everyone else from that time too!

a common stumbling block to understanding oneness is how one person can have the all within them when the next guy has all within them as well.

well, as the drop can absorb the ocean, so can every other drop absorb the ocean as well. and as you grow to encompass and become all there is, so do all others.

there is a pyramid of descent from every person (that has children), which soon superimposes with your contemporaries' pyramids of descent, just as you and your contemporaries' forbears' pyramids are superimposed, moving forward from mitochondrial eve. looking at this mechanism in a reverse manner affords a view of a model of our evolution into oneness in terms of our connectedness with other selves.

i really don't know if you're going to know what the heck i'm talking about, but it was a point of illumination for me that is failed by words. it's just an allegorical attempt to communicate. :o

-mark

[MarkM]

according to much modern research, the alleged bloodline of jesus had established itself after about 8-12 generations as the so called merovingian or 'longhaired' kings (dagobert et al) centered in gaul (france). this line can be traced forward into many of the royal houses of europe. it is known that a king in those days kept a royal born concubine (mistress), ostensibly to provide his first born son with a half sister to marry, thus increasing the potency of the royal blood. the king would have many children with both the queen and the concubine but these later children figured little in matters of royal succession.

it's possible that this central thread of kingly succession and it's semi-incestuous customs has carried through to the present day, although now being central to the group now known as the 'illuminati'. david wilcock has made reference along this line recently in his 'endgame' blogs, suggesting that this supposed royal lineage direct from king david forms a rationale behind the illuminati's presumptions of superiority and 'divine' right to rule.

to me, the entire concept of this (or any) kingly or divine line which rules others by divine decree smacks of a duality suggestive of a dedicated 'service to self' polarity. it will indeed be interesting to see if the illuminati comes out of the closet in this regard.

[leo scone]

when james cameron did his "tomb of jesus" thing, i believe david pointed out that the illuminati were perhaps trying to set the stage for the revelation of being genetically linked to jesus and thus to rule by right of blood. i can't see how they think that might work because if it was the remains of jesus in the tomb, then the dude appears not to have ascended, so what then would be the power in the connection? if jc didn't ascend then his rule by virtue of his connection to god would surely be in question, because the proof of the pudding is in the ascension. without that he's a very talented fella but doesn't carry that weight necessary to make his bloodline rulers by right. besides which, if so many of us share that then the illuminati don't have much to bark about after so many centuries of inbreeding, do they?

my joyfull guess? jc had family and ascended, his bloodline does permeate our veins, and that makes us all not rulers, but co-creators. and that my dear friends is the last thing the illuminati and their ilk want us to become empowered in knowing!

[Robert Riedel]

oh, yes, frank-o,that is indeed the case. a frenchman, named montagaine, once said, "there is no greater victory, that to prove to your enemy, that he is not your match."

perhaps then, the true challange is not to ignore those negative elitest, illuninasty, zeta-reticulooser control freaks, trying to keep this whole planet down but to mass an "attack" of sorts right at 'em- as even they are also, and it can be no other way, each and all a spark of the one infitite creator, and turn their frown up-side down: imagine the possibilities!

what's the best case senario? we may find ourselves living on a planet inhabited by six some billion gods in human form- aware-totally awakened, and possessing all that being a god implies!

or worst case- where we are at right now, but improving a little more, each day, until the cosmic hammer falls, and indeed it will fall.

this is the task we all signed on for. when that becomes more and more the true mission statement of the collective consciousness known as humanity, look out! danger! eternity ahead!!!

bob

[theodorepong]

“i would not consider the number of decendents to be in the millions, since mathematicaly impossible, since his decendents would have a sense of monogomy and not dna spewing heathens, or perhaps like myself and not procreating. this number may only be a thousand gross.”

interesting comment. that could be a valid point you have there, vexstar which certanly deserves a little closer look, so let us take a little closer look.

suppose jesus and mary magdalene had just two children. suppose further that on the average all of the progeny of jesus and mary each married fairly late to a man or woman outside jesus bloodline, and then had only two children. from this you can easily see that the “jesus” bloodline population on the average would double every generation, while the world population itself stayed relatively constant. in fact the copulatory behavior of this model of the jesus bloodline conforms exactly to the ideals of the zero population growth proponents of the last 50 years, every couple has just two children to replace themselves. under this model the jesus bloodline contributes absolutely nothing to the increase of the total world population.

marrying in the late twenties into a totally monogamous relationship and producing just two children is not exactly the description of a dna spewing heathen. yet in 29 generations the jesus population becomes 536,870,912.

twenty nine generations of 33 years each gives 957 years, landing us in the middle of the 10th century. it will still be 109 years before william the conqueror defeats harold the saxon in the battle of hastings. the estimated world population in the year 1,000 was about 310,000,000.

and yes indeed, mr. markm, by the same token of the above demonstration, you and i and all of us are also the direct descendants of every single cut-throat, horse thief, murderer, whore, and general scalawag that ever lived before the turn of the eleventh or twelfth century or thereabouts.

bottom line, we are all one, in a rather literal sense.