Dilemma

[wayshower]

Hi,
Picture the scene: In the car with nineteen year old daughter who has just completed second year study at Uni, radio on. News item, some talking head making vacuous prediction that something would happen within the next fifteen years unless…. I make unguarded remark to effect, - “That won’t matter since there’s only five years to go anyway….”

Daughter demands explanation.

On reflection, two issues stand out to me. Firstly, the immediate response by the vast majority of people given any discussion – no matter how carefully presented - surrounding 2011-13 is one of fear. Fear of what? Death, finality, the unknown, I suppose, for rarely are they prepared to specify, or even face their reaction.

Secondly, my daughter’s eventual question, “Well, if there’s only five years to go, why have I just struggled through two years of study, and planning to go for another two for just three years in my job ?” (She is studying conservation management, and very sincere in her commitment to it.)

Her youthful and simplistic approach do I believe go to the heart of the matter; she may no longer be a babe or suckling, but out of the mouths of the innocent….
In other words, we might all ask the same question.

Having read the books, weighed the evidence, evaluated the sincerity of the various players, and most importantly delved deep into our own heart-feelings with the result that, Yes, we accept that something – harvest/ascension/paradigm shift in 3D consciousness - is imminent – why do we daily trudge back and forth to what for most of us is a routine of no more than transient importance?

Should we not abandon the office, the contact centre, the production line – most of which are only serving to continue the enslavement of our brothers and sisters anyway?

Should we not be devoting our time to teach/learning with/from our fellows, bettering and improving ourselves to broadcast awareness, and demonstrate by example more informed choices in service to otherselves?

Do we believe or are we hedging our bets?

Love.
Neil

[fiz]

Neil,

Thanks for asking these essential questions in an open, honest way.

Having read the books, weighed the evidence, evaluated the sincerity of the various players, and most importantly delved deep into our own heart-feelings with the result that, Yes, we accept that something – harvest/ascension/paradigm shift in 3D consciousness - is imminent – why do we daily trudge back and forth to what for most of us is a routine of no more than transient importance?

For myself, my growing awareness of imminent planetary transformation has completely altered my lifestyle. I dropped out of grad school 2 years ago, gave up my expensive apartment, and am now living in a co-op household that affords me more free time to live in the present. Cashing out my retirement fund from my last job, I've been living on savings.

Should we not abandon the office, the contact centre, the production line – most of which are only serving to continue the enslavement of our brothers and sisters anyway?

For myself, yes -- as much as possible.

Should we not be devoting our time to teach/learning with/from our fellows, bettering and improving ourselves to broadcast awareness, and demonstrate by example more informed choices in service to otherselves?

To the extent it is possible to do so without alienating those we would demonstrate by example to, yes. With the increase in free time that giving up my future-projected, security-based lifestyle has given me, I find myself moved to spend time being with and talking to people I care about. To my surprise, people are more open than I expected to the concept of ascension. But what people seem most responsive to is my just being available to hang out in meaningful ways, whether or not we talk about the future.

In this regard, I guess I'm inclined not to bring up 2012 matters myself, but simply be there for people in a tender-hearted way. That seems to be the best way to communicate my own grasp of these "ultimate concerns" you are proposing. Not making a big deal out of it speaks loudest, I think. As does demonstrating a calm approach to daily living, and affirming the basic humanity of each other.

It sounds like your daughter is on her path and pursuing her own love of the Earth through her diligent studies. Maybe 2012 will prove to be a strange fulfillment of precisely that quality she is demonstrating, without her having to alter her course one bit in the meantime. In other words, I like to challenge myself to hold 2012 before me as the ultimate inclusive container for accepting myself and others just as we are. If nothing needs to change in light of the future I think is emerging, might that allow for the most meaningful kinds of changes to occur anyway? Seems to be the case for me.

Do we believe or are we hedging our bets?

I believe, and, at the same time, hold the entirety of everything I believe before me in uncertainty all the while. Why? Because for me, cognitive uncertainty seems to be the most direct form of participating in the kind of future I believe is emerging. Uncertainty -- being open to what I don't know -- enacts my very beliefs in this way. Weird....

Love, Chris

[DAB]

Hi,
... why do we daily trudge back and forth to what for most of us is a routine of no more than transient importance?

Should we not abandon the office, the contact centre, the production line – most of which are only serving to continue the enslavement of our brothers and sisters anyway?

Should we not be devoting our time to teach/learning with/from our fellows, bettering and improving ourselves to broadcast awareness, and demonstrate by example more informed choices in service to otherselves?

Do we believe or are we hedging our bets?

Love.
Neil

Hi Neil...good questions.
I believe we believe and are beginning to "live it" more and more and more in unison each day. I personally, have had what would be considered "visions and re-awakenings" of the third kind : ) at the beginning of this year. I still work in the 3d world but ONLY to keep all of my energy aligned where We are going...I have a bit more leeway there because I am self-employed. Funny thing...my work now enhances that very energy.
Since My Children can't help but see and feel what is going on in My Life when I am around Them...They too will be making decisions very soon to re-align Their energies simply by indirectly experiencing the good of My experiences when We are together.
Hope that helps Ya! : )

[pyramidnj]

Here is an interesting article regarding the meaning of interpretation of the Mayan calendar....Light and Love to All! Jo Anne

www.water-consciousness.com

THE WORLD WILL NOT END

By Carlos Barrios

CARLOS BARRIOS was born into a Spanish family on El Altiplano, the highlands of Guatemala. His home was in Huehuetenango, also the dwelling place of the Maya Mam tribe. With other Maya and other indigenous tradition keepers, the Mam carry part of the old ways on Turtle Island (North America). They are keepers of time, authorities on remarkable calendars that are ancient, elegant and relevant.

Mr. Barrios is a historian, an anthropologist and investigator. After studying with traditional elders for 25 years since the age of 19, he has also became a Mayan Ajq'ij, a ceremonial priest and spiritual guide, Eagle Clan.

Years ago, along with his brother, Gerardo, Carlos initiated an investigation into the different Mayan calendars. He studied with many teachers. He says his brother Gerardo interviewed nearly 600 traditional Mayan elders to widen their scope of knowledge.

"Anthropologists visit the temple sites," Mr. Barrios says, "and read the inscriptions and make up stories about the Maya, but they do not read the signs correctly. It's just their imagination... Other people write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this. The world will not end. It will be transformed. The indigenous have the calendars, and know how to accurately interpret it, not others." .............

[billybobbutterball]

Hi,

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Secondly, my daughter’s eventual question, “Well, if there’s only five years to go, why have I just struggled through two years of study, and planning to go for another two for just three years in my job ?” (She is studying conservation management, and very sincere in her commitment to it.)

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Having read the books, weighed the evidence, evaluated the sincerity of the various players, and most importantly delved deep into our own heart-feelings with the result that, Yes, we accept that something – harvest/ascension/paradigm shift in 3D consciousness - is imminent – why do we daily trudge back and forth to what for most of us is a routine of no more than transient importance?

Should we not abandon the office, the contact centre, the production line – most of which are only serving to continue the enslavement of our brothers and sisters anyway?

Should we not be devoting our time to teach/learning with/from our fellows, bettering and improving ourselves to broadcast awareness, and demonstrate by example more informed choices in service to otherselves?

Do we believe or are we hedging our bets?

Love.
Neil

Hi, Neil, I think many of us have pondered the same query. The situation is somewhat similar to those being in the service with a discharge date looming just around the corner; the resulting detached psychologically enervated state-of-mind was summed up by the sailor expression, "short timer attitude."

What are we to do? Martin Luther expressed his attitude concerning the soon expected "second coming" by saying he hoped Jesus would find Martin busy planting a tree.

It does help to remember that in the makeup of the Divine Cosmos no effort is wasted. I do a lot of mundane tasks but try to orientate them in dedication to the One Creator. For instance while working a cash register I try to consider each customer in the special light of the One. Of course there will be a certain, small percentage of people that are sent to serve as catalysts to test and ground my vaporous well-meaning. I'm learning to bounce back.

I have read that for so-called Wanderer's called to service to Earth(s) the main task in helpfulness is just to BE present and incarnate right here. The unconcious radiation of a mere quality of being has a tremendous and far reaching impact. Since we in reality All One just to reach one other person is to reach all... I think that is the idea that The Ra
expressed.

Of course the most maddening part of this incarnational situation is struggling under the veil of forgetfullness -- devilishly designed to stimulate the development of our "free will" in order to establish polarity. "Let me do it mommy" seems to be a cosmic categorical imperative. It helps to keep in mind that one only learns from failures not from unordained successes.

Love, Billybob -- learningaloteveryday! (:>))

[wayshower]

pyramidnj wrote:They say that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this. The world will not end. It will be transformed.
I have absolutely no argument with Carlos Barrios on this, it is definitely NOT the 'end', rather the beginning of a new time. And this is a discussion I have had with some people.

What is amazing is how difficult it is for people to value spiritual growth, a shift into an entirely new, amazingly wonderful world of harmony and love; to value an escape from the materialistic, manipulative, self-seeking hidden control that we have allowed this experience to become: in other words to achieve the free-dom human beings claim they want and desire.

Apparently there is a preference to cling to some familiar temporary 'high' - however imperfect - than to trust and have faith in what they claim to believe.

To put a 'religious' view on this, perhaps this is in reality a test of faith - belief in things unseen.

Chris, (fiz) I admire your commitment and courage to follow your heart. I also take Dab's point - I do not labour my beliefs - and my dear wife is a great balancer here, she respects my feelings, follows in part, but holds me back if I tend to 'go too far'. I think the exchange I related yesterday has at least prompted thought for my elder daughter, - at her age she has to approach this with a more logical, conscious mind. We also have two much younger children, who will, I hope, as Dab says come to their conclusions through indirect exposure to my experiences and conversations in a more inner conscious way.

Love.
Neil

[Art]

Neil,

Exceptionally good post my friend. These are deep questions we all must ask ourselves as we continue to prepare for the near future. I honestly do not think you are looking for answers here and your post speaks to all who read it as maybe a test of faith? :rolleyes:

Anyway, I have come to accept the future as it is and embrace the coming changes, whatever they may be. In the grand scale of things, the future is out of my single control, but, I can work to co-create a new world, with the workers of light emerging and gathering as we speak. As you point out, what specifically am I doing to help initiate the change? Well, David speaks of Inner and Outer Work. I am still in the process of completing my Inner Work (do we ever?) and starting, ever so slowly, to do more and more Outer Work. I believe they complement each other (as has been written in other posts). Of course the "balance" tilts as we come to forgive and embrace ourselves, allowing more light to shine through and empowering each of us to help others along the way.

Your questions -

1 - "Should we not abandon the office, the contact centre, the production line – most of which are only serving to continue the enslavement of our brothers and sisters anyway?"

2 - "Should we not be devoting our time to teach/learning with/from our fellows, bettering and improving ourselves to broadcast awareness, and demonstrate by example more informed choices in service to otherselves?"

3 - "Do we believe or are we hedging our bets?"

Answers -

1 - There are some of us who have left "the grind" for pursuit of greater things, although I'd venture to say very few. In my case, I left a pretty secure Corporate America job to teach math at a Community College. I gave up financial security and a crappy job, for crappy pay and a great job. Go figure. However, this act was part of my initial "awakening" and has opened more doors for personal development, in addition to freeing myself from "pointless stress". So, yes, if you can, leave the pointless things behind.

2 - Yes, we should devote our time to teaching/learning. The problem here is, what do we teach, what do we learn? Take a look at the New Sciences section and it just boggles the mind how much "new knowledge" is being shared. But, these things are details and I try not to get too frustrated with keeping up. So, I'd say focus on "the basics", whatever that may be for you and simply converse with those willing. Listen to what they have to say. Don't be afraid if you don't have the answers. You'd be surprised at just how many people want to talk about "spirituality", but are afraid. Lastly, lead by example. Be a beacon of light in whatever you do, and don't be afraid to stumble along the way.

3 - This is the hardest question to respond to. I hate to admit, but I hesitate to affirm my "belief". The concepts and ideas that are floated around on this site/forum resonate with me. However, are they the end-all, say-all? I doubt it. The truth is within each of us, not from outside. What that truth is, I'm still working on it. :confused: Good thing is, I don't think this truth can be spoken with mere words, so attempts to describe it even if I did know would be futile. This truth is seen and felt. When you can appreciate, stand in awe of, the "simple nature" of life around you, I think you are on the right track

Again, great post. I'm a little ashamed of my meager attempt of response, but felt compelled to join in on the praise, as I think this one's gonna be popular! :D

[Tim_R]

Hi fiz,

I have made the same choices you have. I used to be a career-oriented scientist employed with the US government, and as I grew in my trust and faith in God, I eventually had the courage to give up trust in "things" and institutions of this world. For the past 10 years I have been drifting like the water insect in Richard Bach's "illusions" , and it has been an interesting learning experience (if nothing else). I have fewer "things" than before, but have never gone hungry, have always had life's necessities, and have been able to devote big blocks of time (years) to my spiritual development. Whereas most people have had to work constantly and hard for decades to accumulate their "things" only to see them evaporate with the stock market crash and banks folding. It has been nerve-wracking a few times, but that has also been a part of the spiritual training too, I believe. Congratulations on having the courage to walk YOUR path (instead of corporate or the Illuminatti's path).

Cheers!

[tuesday]

Billybobbutterball said:

I have read that for so-called Wanderer's called to service to Earth(s) the main task in helpfulness is just to BE present and incarnate right here. The unconcious radiation of a mere quality of being has a tremendous and far reaching impact. Since we in reality All One just to reach one other person is to reach all... I think that is the idea that The Ra
expressed.
This reminds me of one of my mother's favorite sayings (which, of course, I had to test repeatedly :rolleyes:) :
You rise to the level of the company you keep.

(Thanks, Mom. You were right, of course. Again.)

[Firewalker]

As a twenty- one year old. (After an... [ahem...] four year gap year) to hopefully this year, possibly next, go to uni to study politics. I would just say to go with what you really feel inside.

I used to want to study healing, (which would quickly take me to 'harvestable level) but I don't seem overly inclined toward it (It always seems to go quite wrong and is unsatisfying).

Firstly, I'm not overly confident in David's explanation of the 700 year transition period, because it was based on the idea that time speeds up between densities, because Ra stated that a generation and a half of second density was 1,350 years.

So David said, a generation for a second density lifeform is 9 years, therefore, time must have sped up by 100.

But, if you read the LoO, there are loads of different reasons lifetimes were differing lengths. Different cultures have had average lifetimes of 900 years, 700 years, and 40 years.

Perhaps pasting our ideas of second density lifetimes onto some facts of history doesn't quite fit.

There is also the work of Chet Snow, that David originally mentioned, who regressed people into the future (a valid exercise for anyone really curious about their future and harvest), and a lot of them had utopian lifetimes, but there being no hint of changes in bodily form etc. (that is a fairly unsubstantiated but comes from what I understood David has said about that, I haven't read Mr Snow's work.)

For me personally, perhaps a psychic that I have faith, that I am to see soon will set me along a different course, or that the work in politics will make me a passionate spiritual leader before a year is up, or that I will find some way of serving those on campus outside learning hours.

But I personally think that if someone's heart, and, supposedly, higher self is guiding them to go into something that supposedly relies on institutions still existing once the 'lessons have been learned'. Then they should follow it rather than taking a detour into 'nothing' very useful.

There is the possibility that with such knowledge though, if someone is to be outside the mainstream way of doing things, that they can become more 'available' to alternate opportunities.

And you should have said, 'there are three and a half years left'.

[hoppppe]

hi everybody

even before i found davids work and realised what i already knew inside me,i quit my job as a teacher and started pursuing my own dreams-
me being a teacher was something my parents wanted ,and did not make me happy..it was tough at the beginning but now im opening my own business,i have more time for my Self,and i feel that things have changed for the better
i missed myself,i guess i didnt relly know my Self that good before

now im happy for the first time with who i am
ive got one more step to take and that is being able to decide if i still want to be in the same relationship with my partner ( which by the way is not on the same page with me regarding 2012.hes too connected to this reality and i dont know if he will ever be able to deconnect)

meanwhile im moving forward and i feel hes holding me back

after a number of coincidences in which i wondered what the hek is going on,i finnaly got a hold of the movie the secret which confirmed all my beliefs,and answered all my questions,like why can i get everything i set my mind on

thank u again david for waking the courious child in me
thank u


i want to live a worry free life surrounded only by love and pewace and peiople that share my wiew on life

im moving forward and im notlooking back

[Berry Chastain]

Dear Hopppe,
I am sending love and loving energy to you to sustain your decission to be the person that you have discovered you are. If your partner is an important part of your spiritual growth, he will find a way to move with you. If not then, release that part of your life as a growing experience and look forward to new and more supportive relationships. Just remember your are an Immortal spiritual being having a human physical experience. Everything is a lesson you came here to learn and this is only the last of many experiences and the first of many to come. Seek to serve others in your pathway.
Love and Light to you dear one,
Berry

[ggw_bach]

hi everybody

even before i found davids work and realised what i already knew inside me,i quit my job as a teacher and started pursuing my own dreams-
me being a teacher was something my parents wanted ,and did not make me happy..it was tough at the beginning but now im opening my own business,i have more time for my Self,and i feel that things have changed for the better
i missed myself,i guess i didnt relly know my Self that good before

i want to live a worry free life surrounded only by love and pewace and peiople that share my wiew on life

im moving forward and im notlooking back

that is brave of you. A wonderful new world awaits those who are brave enough to leave the past patterns behind.

I felt the same pressures in my own life to conform; I resisted at college and went my own way. My life has been my own since then.

Income is such a grating and pressing issue for many. We have to devote 3-5 days to take care of our material needs; and the rest of the time is ours. But those 3-5 days can be absolute hell if it is work that is not compatible with our character or morals.

Teaching is a noble practice, but it is not for everyone.

good on you for striking it out.

Bon chance! :D

[transiten]

Hi

I slightly remember David saying that one should not aspire for anything to evolve much above the level one has attained at the moment concerning ones caréer leading up to 2012.... I REALLY hope I misunderstood that....

I'm in a bad shape at the moment and my dentist made it worse, so i suspect myself for interpreting things negatively and this is also a very strong destructive pattern of mine; Whatever i desire or strive for will be taken away or destroyed, living the archetype of Job.....but finally i think he was given it all back..but that was in a book, not in my life...

With this gloomy outlook i will not make it over 51%, not at the moment anyway... but some "points in heaven" perhaps for being honest and not pretending being more spiritually developed than one really is:(

Comments anyone?

[mmariebored]

Hi

I slightly remember David saying that one should not aspire for anything to evolve much above the level one has attained at the moment concerning ones caréer leading up to 2012.... I REALLY hope I misunderstood that....

I'm in a bad shape at the moment and my dentist made it worse, so i suspect myself for interpreting things negatively and this is also a very strong destructive pattern of mine; Whatever i desire or strive for will be taken away or destroyed, living the archetype of Job.....but finally i think he was given it all back..but that was in a book, not in my life...

With this gloomy outlook i will not make it over 51%, not at the moment anyway... but some "points in heaven" perhaps for being honest and not pretending being more spiritually developed than one really is:(

Comments anyone?
I feel your pain, transiten, your outlook is no more gloomy than the rest of us, some of us just have trouble admitting it. As far as 51%, it makes sense that your entire life is measured. People who need to come back and do the course all over again aren't led to the path we're on right now. If they find their way here, the information is meaningless to them. You're going in the right direction, as far as I can tell.:)

[transiten]

Well thanks mmariebored for these words...no fitting smiley here...

At the moment I'm splashing my pain out all over the forum..my dear dog is still asleep and i don't know how to get him down all the stairs because of his impaired leginjury......my mediumshipcourse in Stockholm, one of the few things holding me up beside this forum and the regained contact with my father, begins within a month and i have to bring my dog on the train...

I just can't see how it's going to work...have to pray for a miracle....

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[Art]

transiten,

I feel your pain. In my own experience, ever since the holiday season I have been in a funk. Only now am I getting out of it. And it has been a sharp turnaround, so get ready! ;)

Hang in there. Have no doubts about "measuring up". Many are going through rough times, but trust me, you'll be stronger when you get back up. It must be part of the cleansing process or something. I don't pretend to understand it, but have managed to get through it a little easier when I stopped fighting the "gloom", accepted it, and moved on.

There are valuable lessons of patience, at least in my case, and maybe in yours too.

Art

[transiten]

Art

I know what you're saying is true, and having the opportunity to express oneself to understanding and emotionally developed pple like you here on the forum is of course part of the healing and purifying process...I keep seeing 911, i read "The Tower" tarot card today and my personal astrology of course reflect this together with plutos entrance in capricorn which on a collective level means the breaking down of all useless, outmoded structures....

My dog was somewhat better today but my arm is worse...sacrificial transfer? i actually said i would do anything for this lovely 2D Soul...and also i just have to SLOW DOWN INSIDE..suppose my body is signalling this..I just have to sit back and stop getting stressed out over the fact i don't have a caréer. I know i was given this time to develop my spirituality, just have a hard time believing this will work, when everything else i tried just stopped in spite of all the chances and efforts and achievments i actually made..

Even though i think i'm being "put aside by circumstances" to show me that what i'm supposed to do is deepening my spiritual path, my selfdestructive pattern is trying to sabotage over and over again..

But i actually have support from you guys and from my mediumshipclass....
and my father finally. When i choose performing and music he repeated the ordinairy "Why don't you find a REAL JOB" and so I studied to become a teacher in music and french...but ended up on stage anyway and from there right down to the bottomless pit that finally led me onto the spiritual path...

I'm looking forward to the "switch" and I know "art";) is part of my healing.

Liliane transiten

[Blacksunshine]

I know I question these things every single day. Especially with the rapid pace that time is moving. I do work, I manage the store that my father owns. If i didn't and i could "bail" on family, I think I would. But I cant seem to make it okay to do that to my over 60 year old father, my patient mother, and my kind loving customers, that often (I feel) come in JUST to make me smile, or see if they can help make my day just a little brighter. (winter is a tough one for me)

But I'm ALWAYS here, sometimes up to 6 days a week, and always for at least 42 hours a week. And when times are giong so fast, that is alot of time at work. So I have felt the effects of my own special sharing time dwindling down to a mere maybe few hours a month.

It's a bit of a dilemma really, one I try to not get depressed on, rather be apprectiative that I have the love of the community that they rely on my being here. and other times that I have a job to raise my child. and not worry about what we will eat tomorrow.

It's been an odd transfer of change, that I will admit, I have felt, and sometimes it's really hard, and sometimes it's fine.

I will admit, I rarely know the date anymore. That makes it hard to know what day of the week it is...but my husband usually reminds me when I dont have to work the next day ;). it's a big help!!!

[hoppppe]

hi guyz

thank u for the support and sorry i havent poste anything until now but things have been hectic.
i read my post again and it just seems so foolish now,mazbe because i didnt end up doing what i set off to do,i had such high hopes and things just didnt turn up right.
well,im not upset about it,maybe "god" has other plans for me.maybe my help is needed somewhere else.

lots of love

[hoppppe]

hi guys

i will try and be short
i have a huge dilemma,maybe someone can see things better than me,please i need ur help.
ive been in a long relationship with the man of my dreams,i could honestly say that he was a great teacher for me,(very inteligent person,dr) and that he might be the catalyst to my awakening.he was the one that showed me how things really work in this world and im talking here about iluminati and all the coverups etc
soon after i started putting all the pieces together(i had strange dreams since i was a child and always felt smth is going on)

so heres the problem
since i awakened,2oo7,my whole view on life has changed,my priorities have changed and i guess i have too,
well,he doesnt like that and he hates it when all i can think of and all i talk about is divine cosmos and everything concerning that,law of one,which i slowly guide my life after.
to him is just crap,and instead of wasting my time reading this stuff,i should do smth else
he almost feels embarased with me sometimes if we are with people and i make the smallest comment on anything thats on this topic,even if i point out a syncronicity.

my question is,
i love this man a lot,but should i move on alone to follow my way,thinking that he was the catalyst and i learned what i needed from this lesson,or do i stay and cope with the situation,thinking the relationship itself is a lesson ,being so hard for me to deal with him sometimes.it is very frustrating for me.
i would love for him to be on the same path as me,i always felt that i knew him from another life,and i simply cant picture my life without him,hes my best friend.
it hurts so much
please help me

ps oh and can someone tell me if my energy and my development can suffer from all his bad vibes?
keep in mind that he is very good hearted person,but i guess he is not ready yet.
thank u

[HelioHelix]

I didn't read the whole thread but if I'm understanding it right I don't think you should radically change your lifestyle unless you feel totally comfortable about it and can afford to do so. As for myself I'm continuing on with life as normal pursuing my ambitions, getting a degree and working part time in my industry. (Even though I could afford not to.)

Everyone needs to keep in mind that we are on a variant of timeline 1, where they (those who have been able to use the looking glass) have no idea what is going to happen. Although we are on the path towards spiritual/physical evolution the rest is unclear, we are actually writing our own history. And I think that this is important because it means that we have more freedom to make choices in our lives than we ever used to.

Another thing to think about is that there is an infinite number of possibilities for how each day could play out, so whether or not you choose to live a different lifestyle than you are currently pursuing really doesn't matter. Since in another existence you have already made the decision to change your lifestyle.

I guess all I can say is do what ever you assert to be the best choice.

[onething]

Hi Hopppe

Perhaps you could back off a little. If you love this man and get along why not just let each other be? Keep it to yourself more.

I hardly talk about this stuff with my husband at all, although he is aware of it and it is something of a joke. I remind him now and again that after all, we only have until 2012 to do our landscaping and after that, who knows?

My husband is an agnostic and he finds me very funny but he is a skeptic.

[hoppppe]

hi

thank u heliohelix for the post.u are right,i have to be comfortable with any changes i want to make speciaally if its a drastic one,and im not,im actually skared

and onething,im very happy u gave me this answer,i think u are right i should back off a bit,thats right,he doesnt need to hear me talking about this all day long.
i should keep it to myself,but i guess in a way i was hoping i could opeen his aappetite for this topic,all iwant is to be with him,now aand forever.we were making plans to get married but in the last year he didnt bring it up aanymore,we used to talk about our dream house together,not sso much anymore...

could it be because he thinks im proly going crazy or smth?god knows what happened

im really curious how people cope with a situation like this if anyone is dealing with this problem

whaat do u do if ur partener isnt on the same page with u,and even worse if he hates everything about it.what then?im really puzzled

thank u

[atlantianferret]

why do we daily trudge back and forth to what for most of us is a routine of no more than transient importance?

Why indeed? But not because this coming event, or that at any moment you could be called on. Because you want to be whole, you want to pursue your spiritual path. Don't you long to feel the completeness, the connection it summons in you.


Should we not abandon the office, the contact centre, the production line – most of which are only serving to continue the enslavement of our brothers and sisters anyway?

Why? They are not the master of your enslavement. You are. I learned the hard way. ;)


Should we not be devoting our time to teach/learning with/from our fellows, bettering and improving ourselves to broadcast awareness, and demonstrate by example more informed choices in service to otherselves?

If that is your path, with out a doubt. Yes. ASAP.


Do we believe or are we hedging our bets?

You are finishing a race before you start it without even knowing if it really exists. Live, Love, and be Gratefully.

I have found that reacting in life makes a cumbersome gardening tool, instead of living and taking deliberate and thoughtful action.( A lesson I had to try a couple of times)

As the Freemen say "Fear is the mind killer." I would say the same of spiritual development.

[L3dean]

on the question of whether to continue on your job...

I believe that whatever you choose to do (as a job) really does not matter --except that I still need to have an income to support myself and my family. I have been forced (through chosen consciencness life path or circumstances of this 3D world- I don't know which) to abandon struggling to achieve my desired career. since then, I have simply accepted whatever "re-assignments" I ended up in and look at them as opportunities to reach (awaken) the people that are currently in my corner of the world...

in viewing things that way, I am learning to address the aspect of rotating contacts and planting seeds, showing others how to BE (be happy with yourself, be growing in self knowledge wherever you are and whatever you are doing, etc.)

so, the bigger question then becomes transformed from "Why am I chained to this job?" to "Who (in this location and in this timing) can I help to wake up?"

... same thing applies to relationships... I believe you should NEVER squash yourself (your growth) just because someone is not ready to grow at your speed or grow according to your pathway... being a single mom with 3 disabled kids to raise while fighting off a controlling (and stalking) ex-husband was not a fun thing to do, but I feel much better about myself and my growth process now (after 20+years trial by fire) and that has made me much stronger and much more aware of allowing others to go on their own journey