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[eyez4096]

[Note from Moderator: We are definately looking at developing Topics for the General Discussions forum to make it easier for us all to find what we want to find. In the mean time, here is Charles' opinions on lots of stuff]

I want to start a thread here and hope that its potentially controversial subject matter doesn't blow up in my face... So lets please keep things civil if at all possible lest I resent starting the conversation->argument.

Over the last few weeks it feels like I've been bombarded with insights and information about the military-industrial complex and its workings. This has involved everything from conversations with family about Vietnam/Korea to seeing history channel specials about the Spanish American War, to pondering the implications of WWII and holocaust denial, all the way to seeing you-tube videos showing Israelis cheering at the WTC destruction and hearing Dan Burisch's argument that the Iraq crap was really about some time-scrying device.....

I want to know if people have insight about the following topics:

Military-industry and its influence on global affairs; why has it been able to be used so effectively by the STS elite and how is it that strong STO persons have so-far been unable to hinder its negative impacts on others? I wish to know fully where other STO wanderers went wrong which has lead not only to losing the battle, but to being engaged in battle at all. Battle is so unnecessary but so powerful a catalyst for the undeveloped and wise alike... *sigh*

Energy and the economy; how is it that people have successfully been silenced from dispersing free energy? How is it that those who supposedly discover such things are so completely bombarded with negative attention that their STO abilities are shut down? How is it that others who WANT to have free energy are overpowered by those who don't want them to have it? Most importantly, do you think the free energy stuff really is a series of hoaxes like the establishment wishes us to believe? It seems to me that these people must have had little courage to be shut down by immature threats and violence. When is someone going to stand up and not accept being bullied?

How can any person or comparably small group of persons consistently and consciously deceive the rest of society about things like UFO's, aliens, and/or new technology? How did it get started that people were able to pull this crap so that its feedback system could keep it so firmly in place (once someone believes a lie they will defend it and belittle those who speak the truth especially when they have some perceived power or authority on their side)?

history of materialism; somewhere along the line humanity seemed to forget about spirit and a vast number of humans decided that material reality was all that matter-ed (hyphened for linguistic significance). This has persisted and is horribly obvious in the western world (and some of the eastern world) today. When in history did this happen? Was this an unfortunate side-effect of the immature use of science? It seems to me that it probably was, but then how did it get so out of control as to lead to the state we are in today? It's amazing to hear people say that there is an either/or with science and spirit; the distinction of which is not only ridiculous but horribly damaging even to STS!

I've been thinking about these questions a lot and how they may be involved in the weirdness which has brought about such a discordant history (if one cares to dig into it). Really my query is centered around the negative non-elite; these persons seem so eager to buy into the elite's lies. They have passed the crossroads between two sets of paths: in one direction are serene fields, and on the other there is a barren wasteland with a salesman beckoning. How sad to purchase one's path through agony with the promise they will someday be kings.

Must I remind the wanderers here how frustrating it is to see STS persons trying to control people, when one knows full well that it is a painful and hard path but knows just as well that it is totally viable as a means for progression? Must I mention how painful it is to see people suffering because they believe that they have no other choice, while also realizing that it is worse still to "save them" by all but the most indirect means -- knowing further that many want to walk this path even when they actually understand its significance? How sad/perplexing it is to see destruction and pain knowing that beauty and growth may follow, and furthermore may not probably appear in any other way...

So those of you who are older here, or who have some great experience while incarnate, please feel welcomed to sit down at this metaphorical table and share with me; While my "guides" have been very helpful in aiding me to center/remember myself, "they" have all but refused to interject in matters of direct connection to this plane (for the record I don't like to use such cliches of the New Age, but find that it's deleteriously complex to describe otherwise). For this I must look to those, some of whom I suspect may have access to this message, who have been here longer and have had the opportunity to see/feel more.

Thank you in advance and.. can we please try to transcend arguments for a while? (you know who you are! :P )

-Charles

[MarkM]

Charles, I often ask my self all the same questions that you are asking. My father, who is a skeptic when it comes to anything involving the spirit, ufos, government coverups and hidden energy tech, eschews the entire field of enquiry due to lack of empirical evidence. In fact, I can recall asking him about forty years ago if there was a God. His response to me was, 'when I can shake his hand, I'll believe in him!' All credit to Dad, though, he inspired me to be a free enquirer, even if he believed there were no knowable answers to these things.

I bring this up because in more recent past years, I have , in encountering these questions, never fully escaped from shadowy traces of scepticism and incredulity. Why, indeed, have these things never come out into the open? (I really don't know where I'm going to go with this but the story of 'The Emperor's New Clothes' just popped into my head.)

I guess people just see what they want to see, and don't what they don't. The law of free will in action. My father was/is a scientist, but he is unwilling or unable to let go of his 20th century paradigms. I guess to confront the existence of a single provable paranormal event would violate his own free will parameters.

The bulk of humanity has it's own free will parameters, this is one of the "dark side's"

advantages in being able to maintain the covert nature of their activities. Not so much their skill at deceiving, obsfucating and hiding, but humanities tacit approval of their very existence. They are, in fact, our own dark side, "We have seen the enemy, and it is us!", to paraphrase, who was it, Doonesbury?
Many a fundamentalist type will bury his perceived dark side and even deny it's existence, creating a reactive schism within himself. Don't forget there are science fundamentalists as well. I know, I'm related to one.

If humanity is not ready for free energy and the scientific/spiritual ramifications that are implicit, then no backyard tinkerer will get his inventions to the mainstream, and this is not due to intimidation, but the will of humanity. That's it, in a nutshell.

As for the history of materialism, the same mechanism (pun intended) applies. As an evolving species, our spiritual learning curve has been gradual. This is according to plan. It's as it needs to be, in order for us to meet the requirements of 3D. I don't believe there's been any real failure on the part of STO types. Their role is a more subtle one on Earth's stage. They work within the law of free will, knowing that each individual gets what they need or ask for. Perhaps the greatest service is to send love/light out into humanity at large, to accelerate our collective waking process in accordance with free will.

So, remember tha all paths are acceptable unto God. The negatives are necessary for our spiritual development. Without dark there is no light. Or evolution. Or polarity.

Peace be with you, Mark

[FooSnik]

I feel your pain, brother! Many times growing up, even at a very young age, I could not figure out why people act the way they do and treat other people the way that they do. In a nut shell I think they are just living in fear and if I hadn't "remembered" where I come from and that all is love/light then i would be pretty damn afraid of this world too. God seeks to know himself. Similar to what MarkM has said before me, God can not exist without contrast. I put a link to a video about the Mayan Calendar which really helped me put things in perspective. The Mayans mapped out our evolution of consciousness and show that we are on a precise schedule. They predicted the industrial revolution, the information revolution and other ages of the evolution of man and it helped me to see that the negative elite are not running the show but just a part of a grand scheme. This is not to say that the future is not probable and our free will does have an affect on the future. If you are interested in the Mayan Calendar video then the link is below.

One Love!

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=108

[MarkM]

Yes Charles, I didn't address your issue of the heartache involved in perceiving those on more of a STS path, and the, on the surface of things, frustration of not being able to 'shake some sense' into certain apparently self defeating individuals we all know. I once fell into the trap of knowing what was best for others, and lost my marriage because of it.

Cathy and I married young, and had four beautiful boys together, before she decided she would be better off without me. I had come from an old style, socially conservative British family, and assumed from the outset that my family life would follow the patterns indoctrinated into me as a child. The separation was a soul tearing experience for me, my kids were allowed by her to have unfettered access to the party vississitudes of her friends, uncontrolled internet, violent video games, and so on. I only avoided becoming bitter by prayer and meditation, asking what lessons I was to be gaining from all this.

I realized that I had demanded an undue control over five other human beings lives, and that as a result my children were to going to grow up freed from my daily, pervasive controlling influence. Today I see that all is well, they're a great bunch of kids, free from generations worth of stultifying, 'kids should be seen and not heard' crap that I had to deal with in my life. I learned certain things I never would have, had this situation not come to pass. All is indeed well.

Now my oldest son has severe behavioral problems from an early age. Now nineteen, he has been in jail twice for violent crimes, is a heavy drinker and drug user and was turfed out by his mother at the age of twelve. He came to live with me in my tiny, one bedroom apartment (read support payments) and proceeded to make my life a living hell for five years,at the end of which I turfed him out due to threats of violence. He had been 'diagnosed' early on as having Oppositional Defiance Disorder, among other things, and his defiance was like nothing I had ever imagined in my life.

To make a long story short, my lot has been in realizing that his road is his road. Today we have a healthy detente going, and just last week he hugged me, told me he loved me and thanked me for all I have been to him. It has really been heartbreaking over the years with real fears of his death. I have to be very gentle in offering my guidance, but I feel that my approach and my acceptance of him as he is has been the key to his very survival. I know he'll be alright in the long term.......wow, can you say karma?!

This has been some of this older person's experience. From pain comes growth, if you recognize the inherent possibility.

Cheers, Mark

[eyez4096]

I'm convinced that there's more to this than just emanating love and light, so to speak. Part of my intuition suggests that we are here to gain a much needed perspective so that aid may be more effectively given. This is part of the purpose of my original post.

Something deep inside tells me there is a piece of the picture which is missing; A piece which may, I believe, be integral to redirecting and/or reallocating aid efforts. I think it's safe to say that so far this planet has been all but unsuccessful in its learning even with perceived breakthroughs as of late. I ask that this thread continue to illuminate the dark areas of history and contemporary shortcomings so that the missing pieces may come into focus.

My intuition tells me that some semblance of "darkness" has been successful in hiding the areas most able to be helped. Perhaps we can dis-cover these hidden places within the bounds of free will to help this plane. My suspicion is that a better understanding of how and why and where things went "wrong" will help in knowing where and how things may be better handled in the future, no? While I've had some success in mapping out the psyche of humanity while incarnate, I still am somewhat a novice in the history of things....

Mark, can you please extrapolate the nature and location of the so-called "dark side"?

As for the mayan calendar, I think it is a wonderful map, but it too came from some source. Is there any insight as to what this source is? Do we honestly believe the Mayan people created the calendar in whole, and if so, what perspective was it created from; what is its context?

-Charles

[MarkM]

In addressing your query, Charles, regarding the dark side, I feel that just as everybody has unresolved issues within them that arise for processing, whether through dreams, karma, people and events in our lives, so does collective humanity as well. That I chose the words dark side means only that these things have not seen the light of day, so to speak, they have not been processed by the conscious mind yet and aligned with the purpose with which we came into this life.

One can look at the purported negative elite world-wide conspiracy as humanity's dark side. It has had various manifestations throughout history, and David's blogs have gone into some detail as to the reasons why this situation has persisted and how at the present time the light of humanity is shining into these dark corners and foiling the agendas of power and control that have plagued us all for so long.

When life presents you with catalyst for 'soul growth', you have a choice as to whether you take the opportunity or not. Repeated decisions to not do so can result in inconveniences that may build in your life until perhaps the inconveniences out-weigh the recalcitrance of the individual involved. So it is with the human family. As Cayce and Ra have indicated, earth changes are the potential result of humanity's recalcitrance as pertains to adapting to the instreaming of 4D influences.

I think the fact that we have not seen California slide into the sea is evidence that we aren't doing such a bad job of it.

The negative elite are our own untransmuted energies in manifestation, and as such are a necessary part of our evolution. So send them love, and light.

Yours in acceptance and forgiveness, Mark

[Robert Riedel]

Hey Charles,

I see you've entered into a questioning mode- this is a sometimes scary & frustrating period we all go through. Pretty much what you're discovering is that everything you know, or have been taught is wrong/distorted/manipulated, and this is just another stage of the awakening process that can be greatly helped along with a little senior assistance, but basically, the rules are very simple: Question everything, and resist the temptation to reach conclusions, because you will never have all the information- it's impossible, as information is fluid, and thus ever-changing/growing/evolving- just like everything else in this dynamic universe.

I'll tackle one of your questions tonight, that of suppressed tech- very simple and brutal answer- He who has the gold, makes the rules. Energy conglomerates rule most of this planet through the control and manipulation of anything that can be bought and controlled, including people in high places. The names and organizations become blurred through multi-various layers upon layers intended to shield those ultimately responsible, and murder and mayhem are not strangers to them.

Take a break and watch this little video about a fellow Ohio guy who applied ZPE methods to run our cars on water: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800&q=water+car+inventor+murdered

This has been going on since the 1920's and 30's, Charles Nelson Pogue's name should be right up there with Edison, as the man who perfected gasoline vapor carburators which could operate at a fuel-to-air ratio of 200/1, yeilding a MPG ratio of over 200, but... when the Canadian Economy almost crashed, following the reveiling of one of his latest models, something had to be done with dear-ol' Mr. Pogue.

These are just two examples of how big oil stays king of the hill, and I have my own story from the late 70's, but it's not nearly as exciting, as we only wanted to raise the National MPG ratio to about 60-80, I was told-"Forget it, kid- what do ya wanna do, wreck the economy? We didn't take the money, either- I think there's gotta be a lot of strings attached.

And don't carry a concern for the negs- that self-serving, manipulating bunch of power-crazy nuts causing so much mayhem on the planet right now- they are preforming a very vital function by keeping people dumbed -down, controlled, and other methods designed to supress our freedoms, because it's like a giant spring, being wound tighter, and tighter, and when the "Boing" occurs, and triggers further the awakening process now happening on our planet, nobody can predict what course it will take-this has never happened before- I guess it's like David would say- Stay tuned...

Bob

[lektwik]

How did it get started that people were able to pull this crap so that its feedback system could keep it so firmly in place (once someone believes a lie they will defend it and belittle those who speak the truth especially when they have some perceived power or authority on their side)?

Something deep inside tells me there is a piece of the picture which is missing; A piece which may, I believe, be integral to redirecting and/or reallocating aid efforts. I think it's safe to say that so far this planet has been all but unsuccessful in its learning even with perceived breakthroughs as of late. I ask that this thread continue to illuminate the dark areas of history and contemporary shortcomings so that the missing pieces may come into focus.

My intuition tells me that some semblance of "darkness" has been successful in hiding the areas most able to be helped.

A BBC documentary titled "The Trap" presents some very interesting takes on the nature of and manipulation of human behavior which I believe can provide some insight/illumination on the "missing pieces of the picture" you speak of.

Can be found at google video/you tube.

[eyez4096]

A BBC documentary titled "The Trap" presents some very interesting takes on the nature of and manipulation of human behavior which I believe can provide some insight/illumination on the "missing pieces of the picture" you speak of.

Can be found at google video/you tube.

A fascinating documentary.. thank you!

-Charles

[DAB]

As for the mayan calendar, I think it is a wonderful map, but it too came from some source. Is there any insight as to what this source is? Do we honestly believe the Mayan people created the calendar in whole, and if so, what perspective was it created from; what is its context?

-Charles

[Is there any insight as to what this source is?]

Hi Charles,

Take the time to watch this video if You may...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097&q=ian+xel+lungold+north
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-567329528148516232&q=ian+xel+lungold+north

and research Dr. Calleman's site. http://www.calleman.com/
and Ian's site. http://www.mayanmajix.com/

Your answer of WHO presented Us(the Mayan's) the calendar originally is in there!

[Nina]

Hi Everyone,
Wanted to share this lovely lecture by Dr. Thom Cavalli...It is about the Egyptian story of Ra, Isis, Osiris and Horus,ETC.
Sparked by the flow of this discussion (especially Mark's fatherhood experiences). Dr. Cavalli is the author of "Alchemical Psychology:Old Recipes for Living in a New World". Enjoy - Can hardly wait to read his book. NINA


http://alchemicalpsychology.com/author/lectures.htm

see "Dark Things Lecture at Chapman University"

[nem338nem]

[QUOTE=DAB;21559][Is there any insight as to what this source is?]

If you go to the 1981-83 LOO readings on "" sessions, Re-Listened Ra Sessions, you will find that there is made mention of the sixth density working with a few groups from time to time (including the Egyptians, the Incans in Peru) as well the Mayans in breif communication. The answer that I see in one of the sessions is (and I think you can quote me on this):


They (the particaular group known as the Maya) were communcated from by the 6th density social memory complex.

If I have time I will try to find the session and copy it for you.

Peace, Nelson