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wow!!!
i would like to hear jenkins and other's "take" on david's latest post. i believe what david tells us accurately incorporates some of jenkins' and other "mayanologists" descriptions. anyone ever heard of the "dreamspell"? sounds like being stuck in the astral plane for a bit...
my question to david and others - is it possible to make the "leap" before the "time"?
thanks for sharing david - this really helps put some pieces together and solidify my belief in the coming future. no more doubt, no more questions. why would i say such a thing? similar to our bodies being incompatible, i do not think our minds can comprehend 4d - or even imagine such a "concept"... so, it would seem pointless to ponder. just know that it is just around the corner and in the meantime, do what we can to spread love to each other. i like that...
again - wow!!! :)
eyez4096
05-07-2007, 07:01 PM
based on my understanding from some authors' description of certain meditation practices... it is possible through extreme devotion to ascend prior to such a point. it does not involve drug use or other fringe practices and most certainly is not a suicide by all accounts, but beyond that i know very very little.
SpiralCycle
05-09-2007, 03:05 AM
everything is really well especially if it is as described. hmm my mind still wanders between the ra material and journey of souls book in which both are logical and backed up well, with a few conflicting conclusions but actually have very close similaritys in most outlined ideas and existance experiences.
it is pretty comical how elevation is achieved through intelligent/natural ways of existing coming into the body of love and unity. these seem to be the highest of vibration and few can see the simplicity and truth embedded within those lines.
the article was well articulated. it will be interesting to visit the astral/spirit realm :rolleyes:
best of intentions to all who have the oppurtunity for conscious change.
codee.
dariusdjc
05-09-2007, 01:07 PM
i just have one question. not that i doubt anything written in these blogs as they make complete sense to me. i just have one meaningless question but for some reason can't seem to let go of it. i truly agree with the 2012 post david had but i just wonder why do we have influence or interference from entities which depending upon how one perceives them could be seen of a different path from the law of one, if they know the time is drawing near and change is inevitable. what's keeping them from leaving us alone. why are they still here and interfering? is it just because some on the planet want their service? what do they have to gain if anything in the short amount of time that they have influence? will they still be able to influence the next density world we ascend to?
world-bridger
05-09-2007, 01:44 PM
wow!!!
i would like to hear jenkins and other's "take" on david's latest post. i believe what david tells us accurately incorporates some of jenkins' and other "mayanologists" descriptions. anyone ever heard of the "dreamspell"? sounds like being stuck in the astral plane for a bit...
again - wow!!! :)
i started reading jose arguelles way back in 1992. i began using the dreamspell calendar in 1995 and have used it as my primary calendar ever since. though there has been a tremendous amount of controversy raised in regard to the traditional or non-traditional approaches to the mayan calendar the main thing to me is that if you stop using the gregorian calendar you disengage from the group mind which is associated with the concept "time is money."
the dreamspell is a calendar that could be more appropriately associated with the group mind that says, "time is art." i know which one i would rather be associated with.
i think one of the most interesting effects of changing from one calendar to a different one is you start to realize how something as simple as a day count affects the way you think. the gregorian calendar is very disharmonious, the dreamspell is incredibly harmonic.
anyway, i am not here to promote the dreamspell, i don't care really what other people use, i'm just giving you my thoughts for what they are worth.
best wishes.
odiseo
05-09-2007, 09:00 PM
as far i know they are stuck in this planet and the only way they can survive is by let us say feeding with our fears, suffering and all that is negative. even they know whats going to happend they will keep bothering us they will be desperate because they don't know what to do. as time passess and our planet recives move 4d+ energy they'll get weaker. the best thing we could do is to give them all the love we can. after all they are part of the creation as well, they choose the wrong path but if we can give them all out love we could help them to one day change their minds and choose to be + beings.
...though there has been a tremendous amount of controversy raised in regard to the traditional or non-traditional approaches to the mayan calendar the main thing to me is that if you stop using the gregorian calendar you disengage from the group mind which is associated with the concept "time is money."
the dreamspell is a calendar that could be more appropriately associated with the group mind that says, "time is art."...
in a spirit of great wholeness there may be a place for both calendars. i'll suggest that time seems artistry, money seems artistry, and as there seem many ways to appreciate art - there seem many ways to appreciate both time and money. that a dominant group mind seems to percieve concepts in a certain way that may lead to an imbalance then there seems a possibility that the imbalance may eventually be balanced by a subordinate way of perception. this seems to speak of cylces symbolized by a yin-yang, it seems a concept of the tao.
world-bridger
06-02-2007, 06:40 PM
it's not a matter of one or the other. the point is, our use of the gregorian calendar is primarily unconscious and subliminal. the purpose of the dreamspell is to wake people up to the impact that a calendar has on our collective consciousness.
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