The 22 archetypes

[Mozart]

while i was reading dw's latest blog entry ("cosmic download"...a topic that's right my my alley! wooot!)...

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=331&itemid=70

...i came across this bit:

22 base harmonics of brainwaves (daniel, russian data)


i could only think, "holy shiat!" because i had recalled reading about this in this blog entry of dw from this specific blog...

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=312&itemid=70

...dw saying this:

i remembered that there were only 22 experiences we ever needed to have in our entire spiritual awakening, known as “archetypes”… and these were written by the mind of the galaxy long before we were ever created.


do you realize the implications of this? the implication that i see is that our minds may be hardwired to experience one (or more in one lifetime?) specific archetypal experience in any one lifetime and that in all of our lifetimes, our minds may be hardwired to experience each of all the 22 archetypes of experiences before each of us wind up our 3-d journeys and make the discontinuous leap to 4-d.


so this likely hardwiring of our brains predisposes each of us to gravitate towards experiences within the chosen archetype, not only in daily awake experiences, but also in our dream experiences. each of us would partake in each of the 22 archetypes until each archetype experience is fully explored, it seems.


so it seems that the choosing of which archetypal experience would be made on the soul level prior to the incarnation, whereas the ego who experiences the incarnation, gets to live out the archetypal choice through the possible hardwiring of the ego's brain in order to keep the ego on track in each lifetime.


if this hardwiring of one's brain truly relates to the 22 archetypes of experience, then it behooves each of us to as fully live/breathe each archetype to the fullest possible level of experiences so that each of us can add a brighter spark of life back to the one through one's higher self. it would seem to be important for an ego to fully accept the hardwiring of the specific incarnation so that energy would not be wasted in fighting the likely hardwiring of one's brainwaves in one's incarnation.


~mozart

[lisa renee]

interesting point you make here...i don't know if this has anything to do with what you just said, but i do know that i have been having terrifiying experiences lately, when i do something that's out of alignment with what i percieve as my life's purpose. it's like a hand of god, smacks me back into alignment with my ''incarnational mission" or something.

[inside-up]

mozart:

i'm not so sure that it's the brain that is hardwired for the 22 archetypes. i thought it was the mind which is energetic in nature, not physical. the brain seems to be some sort of partial physical manifistation of mind. maybe the brain function, in and of itself, is the ego, or maybe it's what psychology calls consciousness? not sure, just a thought.

also, it is not necessary for wanderers and 4-d ready entities to go through these archetypes for purposes of graduation. although they are most likey limited to these experiences while incarnated, and are useful for understanding and for helping otherselves graduate.

lisa renee:

sounds more like your higher self trying to keep you on path.

[soup]

it may be that at some time in the past someone noticed
a pattern of 22 mutually exclusive features and out of this
was born sacred geometries of sounds and artistry. it may
be that there is likewise some pattern of 22 mutually
inclusive features like a fractal, that cab seem to link the
micro with the macro.

my impression is this pattern of 22 was an experiment that
spread over many centuries, peoples, and places. it may
be an example of how these things can grow in an organic
way like some mysterious plant form of abstract symbolism.

these plant forms can be thought of as a creation of sorts,
the oracle as the unifying principle of some sort of social
organization which allows followers to interconnect in ways
they may not be able to otherwise. the number 22 converts
to a numerological 4 which seems earthy to me. it may be
analogous to the dirt within a garden from which many
plants are able to thrive and be fruitful in ways, by which
they may make offering to the gardener for the care which
they receive.

[Born23EB]

greetings. just joined this forum site.i am wondering if david has focused specifically on the 22 archetypes he refers to anywhere in his writings. the 22 major arcana of the tarot seem to have a synchronistic resonance in the cosmic scheme of things. anybody have an leads to where someone has written about this?

[DancingHoneyBee]

born23eb; read my post about 22:22 and the pegasus, some stuff in there that might interest you.

[SuperManny]

i remembered that there were only 22 experiences we ever needed to have in our entire spiritual awakening, known as “archetypes”… and these were written by the mind of the galaxy long before we were ever created.
i think calling an archetype an "experience" is somewhat of a misnomer. it's a little bit like calling a map the journey; the way they shape and guide the experience, but are not exactly the same thing as the experience, in my humble opinion.

if we were truly limited to 22 experiences, life would get pretty dull after a while. there are many ways to experience an archetype, and while the archetypes may be limited to 22 the experiences of them are bordering on the infinite. just my 2¢....

[Jivatman]

let us not forget, my friends,

perhaps the first, most primal expression of the 22 archetypes is through the hebrew language. there are 22 letters of the hebrew alphabet, and these each correspond to the 22 "paths" on the tree of life.

essentially, there are 10 sephiroth. these each express a "pure", (oneness, perhaps?) expression of god, and are complete in themselves.

the 22 paths each form a connection between two of the sephiroth.

i imagine, that each path shows an expression of duality, or non-oneness. as one further wishes to polarize themselves they may choose to travel either direction along the path itself... towards a sephiroth, or pure expression of god.

as an admirer of qabbalah, and also an immense admirer of i-ching, it did not escape me that the sephiroth+paths= 32, which is exact half the number of the

there are 8 base gua for the hexagrams, which is why 8x8 is 64 forming them all.

what i desire is to find some sort of correspondences between them... the numerology of numbers already fascinates me from having a background of the aspects in astrology... and having somewhat of an understanding of the dynamics behind them.

well... that's just some food-for-thought for yall

[Darak]

let us not forget, my friends,

perhaps the first, most primal expression of the 22 archetypes is through the hebrew language. there are 22 letters of the hebrew alphabet, and these each correspond to the 22 "paths" on the tree of life.

essentially, there are 10 sephiroth. these each express a "pure", (oneness, perhaps?) expression of god, and are complete in themselves.

the 22 paths each form a connection between two of the sephiroth.

i imagine, that each path shows an expression of duality, or non-oneness. as one further wishes to polarize themselves they may choose to travel either direction along the path itself... towards a sephiroth, or pure expression of god.

as an admirer of qabbalah, and also an immense admirer of i-ching, it did not escape me that the sephiroth+paths= 32, which is exact half the number of the

there are 8 base gua for the hexagrams, which is why 8x8 is 64 forming them all.

what i desire is to find some sort of correspondences between them... the numerology of numbers already fascinates me from having a background of the aspects in astrology... and having somewhat of an understanding of the dynamics behind them.



jivatman
i too have had an interest in the correspondence btw the 22 paths, the tarot and how it all interrelates, including the i-ching, and really just about any other ancient cultures.

i found out about the 22 paths purely by what i thought at the time was chance (now i know otherwise ;) ). i was reading through a book called the new orleans voodoo tarot. i was only 14 or so at the time and didn't understand much, but when i first read the ra material a few years ago it hit me pretty hard that ra's tarot of the pyramid at giza resonated with what i had seen before. i can remember the diagram of the book and how clearly the paths started at one point branched out and went back to one point.

it is truly amazing that we, in the here or now, have ready access to this information. it seems clear that it must be part of our very makeup to be able to tap into this very very ancient knowledge. this potentially going back to the origin of our logos. (or maybe it is not so amazing since all times are one). the pattern shows up in differnt forms but the basic lesson is there.

do you know if there are any parallels to any vedic texts or anything like that?

any other posts on this topic or sites or articles you can suggest?

i don't know a whole lot about this so...

thanks for this insight.

[dazcox]

while i was reading dw's latest blog entry

~mozart


dw: "think about it. there already is a part of you that exists now, millions of years in the future as you would think of it, (in 6d), that has full time-travel capability. it can go to any point of your entire evolution, study it in minute detail, and affect the outcome. it knows what lessons you need to learn to get from here to there — and its primary goal is to increase the speed with which you make that journey. :"

wow, first of all i happened upon this a year to the day from when it was written (the part 3 anyway) and this really speaks to me.

for years i've been living my life as if some time traveller was writing a biography on me, popping in on what i'm working on or doing just outside my field of perception.

sometimes i thought that it was just a tool of my creative mind to help motivate me but the idea has persisted, now i can see that it is the future me, checking in on present me.

i already wrote a huge biography on myself as an artist and i haven't sold a single painting yet haha! after reading davids post from a year ago i will sell one now, just so i'm not 'loathing money'.

for a long long time i thought my work wasn't good enough, i overcome that, then i thought i didn't want to be a 'sell out' and be some money grubbing whore but become a famous artist anyhow, now those ideals no longer interest me.

so i'll sell a painting for however much someone pays for it and be done with my high horse cherry.

[vithar]

it's safer to assume that the 22 figure came from texts within jewish mysticism. ie., sepher yezirah and so forth. this is nothing new and certainly nothing less arbitrary. but i know how it is. we want those tidy connections.
tidy is, as dw does address, primary colors, various scales etc.
but when you start abstracting...

do you know why they chose 22? that's in print to. it's over there > somewhere....

[Mozart]

here's what david said:



so when you're dealing with evolution in the universe, it was very early in our creation that one of the galaxies... galaxies represent the primordial creators... they basically set up a whole system of evolution of 22 archetypes... 22 basic experiences that every person on every planet will go through in that galaxy. and wherever you are now, there is a veil between the conscious mind and the super conscious mind, meaning that you can consciously believe that god has abandoned you... that you have no connection to the universe.

[vithar]

nay, if it wasn't for theosophist (and folks like levi) and their funded pens (now why were they funded ask yourself and by whom!?), we would have forgotten all about 22.

of course, some reasoning has plausibility. such as the number of fingers and toes (ala sepher yetzirah), with the tongue and phallus = 22.

there were 7 traditional planets and 12 signs. this is the precept much (if not most, outside of maya systems etc) is based on. that's 21...hence we have the fool as 0 = 22.
but all this is relative. there are more than 7 planets here. there were not always 12 signs in the zodiac. there's more than one zodiac etc.

it's about how you slice your cosmic pie. it's relative. but when you write or reprint something over and over....

in any case, a good test when it comes to pulling cosmic numbers out of the hat is if they fit into sacred geometric designs. dave knows enough about that.
where does 22 show up. ain't that an aspect of pi?

so think along those lines. and that was an unintentional pun; pie and pi.

dee's enochian has 21 letters btw. the elder futhark runes had 24. futhorc has 30, younger futhark has 16. modern hebrew has like 26 or 7 with the finals.

another tradition is the three groupings. or aetts with the futharks. hebrew has it's 3 mother letters. sanskrit, which has over 50 letters also has this 3 fold division.

22 is moot. it's an easy out simply because it's been uncritically reprinted over time...

but a big however, i'm into this stuff and if anyone actually knows what's going on here by all means please post or pm me.
nothing really supports this but for the human appendage idea. and that just may be a manly thing if you get me.

sepher yetzirah. it'd be neat to see how things would be if that book was never published. one book's idea....and the whole world follows?