Mozart
04-23-2007, 06:58 PM
I thought that I'd get the thread for this specific first-part blog of David's "Transcending Grief, part One" going before catching any grief from...um, nobody...well maybe myself if no other self volunteers to give me any grief. :rolleyes:
Thank you, DW, for covering this topic and for such an excellent POV on it.
So when one starts on the grief process, there's several steps on the path to uncover the Original Wound, isn't there? And there may be several layers of wounds that may have wound around the Original Wound, perhaps?
I recall that Dr Elizabeth Kubler-Ross had a well-defined grief process...good grief, my books are packed...<Googling> and they are: (don't cha just love our internet or what!?)
1)Denial
2)Anger
3)Bargaining
4)Depression
5)Acceptance
I like Ross' stages of the grief process, as it can easily be adapted to pretty much any grief process, I would think. I went through all those stages with regards to the gummint and world affairs in relation to my life, the lives of others around me and to the earth on which I live. And there were other grief processes that I had gone through and I do recall that there were stages that seem to match up with the Ross' list of the grief process stages. I certainly still have more grief stuff to look at; if I don't, I'll give myself loads of grief between now and 2012. :eek:
Knowing mentally about the source of the Original Wound is one thing--to feel it is another thing, so one would have to go by how one feels as one digs down through the layers of wounds towards the Original Wound, yes? I've done mental processing of various wounds, but I rarely did make breakthroughs with just the mental process, so I found that tapping into the deep, powerful wellspring of my emotions was a key indicator that I'm doing the right thing in my digg'n through the layers of the grief onion. Processing grief with just a mental process (the mental process does have it's place, though) won't cut it, but intelligent use of the mental process can be useful to cut into the emotional wellspring of your emotions.
I once did a group process that was based on the teachings of Est. The instructor in the group (63 people) did a brilliant job of helping people dig through the many layers of thoughts/perceptions until they were able to hit upon the truth of the matter(s) and, almost without fail, there were deep, profound emotional shifts that were frequently accompanied by spontaneous burst of tears, of laughter, of joy, big, loud yells, bursts of shaking and so on. If there was no deep, profound emotional shift of some kind that was accompanied by a spontaneous release of energy/emotion, one did not dig deep enough--that was the crucial thing in this group process that had a whole group of people (ages from 20's to 60's) getting very dynamic with their processes of digging deeper and deeper until most of us hit the emotional wellspring of emotional/energenic releases and this high level of emotional dynamic made this group a fantastic one in which to go through the various layers of wounds until one hit the emotional juice jackpot.
So I have learned to use the find-the-genuine-emotion/juice process to determine if I am digging deep enough within myself and to try to fully let the process flow through my body as intensely and completely as possible so that I won't have to repeat any step over the same old issue over again. I've spun enough wheels in this lifetime.
So get digg'n Otherselves. There's shiny, brilliant gems of wisdom buried in those piles and layers of carbon-based shiat, right?
~Seth
Thank you, DW, for covering this topic and for such an excellent POV on it.
So when one starts on the grief process, there's several steps on the path to uncover the Original Wound, isn't there? And there may be several layers of wounds that may have wound around the Original Wound, perhaps?
I recall that Dr Elizabeth Kubler-Ross had a well-defined grief process...good grief, my books are packed...<Googling> and they are: (don't cha just love our internet or what!?)
1)Denial
2)Anger
3)Bargaining
4)Depression
5)Acceptance
I like Ross' stages of the grief process, as it can easily be adapted to pretty much any grief process, I would think. I went through all those stages with regards to the gummint and world affairs in relation to my life, the lives of others around me and to the earth on which I live. And there were other grief processes that I had gone through and I do recall that there were stages that seem to match up with the Ross' list of the grief process stages. I certainly still have more grief stuff to look at; if I don't, I'll give myself loads of grief between now and 2012. :eek:
Knowing mentally about the source of the Original Wound is one thing--to feel it is another thing, so one would have to go by how one feels as one digs down through the layers of wounds towards the Original Wound, yes? I've done mental processing of various wounds, but I rarely did make breakthroughs with just the mental process, so I found that tapping into the deep, powerful wellspring of my emotions was a key indicator that I'm doing the right thing in my digg'n through the layers of the grief onion. Processing grief with just a mental process (the mental process does have it's place, though) won't cut it, but intelligent use of the mental process can be useful to cut into the emotional wellspring of your emotions.
I once did a group process that was based on the teachings of Est. The instructor in the group (63 people) did a brilliant job of helping people dig through the many layers of thoughts/perceptions until they were able to hit upon the truth of the matter(s) and, almost without fail, there were deep, profound emotional shifts that were frequently accompanied by spontaneous burst of tears, of laughter, of joy, big, loud yells, bursts of shaking and so on. If there was no deep, profound emotional shift of some kind that was accompanied by a spontaneous release of energy/emotion, one did not dig deep enough--that was the crucial thing in this group process that had a whole group of people (ages from 20's to 60's) getting very dynamic with their processes of digging deeper and deeper until most of us hit the emotional wellspring of emotional/energenic releases and this high level of emotional dynamic made this group a fantastic one in which to go through the various layers of wounds until one hit the emotional juice jackpot.
So I have learned to use the find-the-genuine-emotion/juice process to determine if I am digging deep enough within myself and to try to fully let the process flow through my body as intensely and completely as possible so that I won't have to repeat any step over the same old issue over again. I've spun enough wheels in this lifetime.
So get digg'n Otherselves. There's shiny, brilliant gems of wisdom buried in those piles and layers of carbon-based shiat, right?
~Seth