About Ra

[odiseo]

hello everyone in the group. i'll like to know if ra still having cominication with us?. back in the mid's 80's i was in high school and most off the free time i had was dedicated to search and read everything i could about ufo's and related material. in my searching i found a group who suposely where in contact with et's. the name of this group was rama mission, dont know if anyone heard that, they where from peru and the contact took place in the nazca desert near where the famus lines are. those et's they said to have a base in one of jupiter moons ganimedes. they told the group that they form part of the confederation of planets of this galaxy.the main purpose was to help humankind to stop their own destruction. in ra meterial he mention they are part of a confederation, could be the same??. the name rama who they said that backwords spells amar , in spanish that word means love.im trying to see if there could be a conection here. also the name rama, again that ra in the name it sounds familiar. does anyone knows something about this?

[dw: as always it is extremely rare that we ever let through posts dealing with 'outside' channeling, as it were, because the whole field is so ridiculously tainted with distortion. however this is the very first i've ever heard of this particular contact, and barring a link to its materials there is no way we can validate it.

our guidelines specifically indicate that we are not interested in 'discovering' new channeling, but rather simply trying to understand and make sense of this huge body of law of one information that already exists, and has already been validated to an exceptional level.

so, no offense but i wouldn't get my hopes up. the best you can usually hope for with any little-known source like this is that it's only 50% fantasy and conscious-mind overlay. furthermore there are many cases where the channel starts out fairly well in the first year or two and then becomes quite tainted -- usually from over-interest of others in the channel as a human being.

that's one reason why i've limited the access that supporters of my material can have to me, and do not do a regular lecture schedule at this point. the adulation is not reflective of reality. i make crass and ridiculous mistakes within my own set of parameters just like everyone else.

getting to the root of your question, as any reader of this site knows, i've had confirmation that my higher self is a member of ra. much of the technical detail of the law of one series remained an unexplained mystery, even to the core group itself, until i came along with this website and started making sense out of it.

the latest article, "hyperdimensional nebulae," is loaded with information that validates what was said in the law of one series.]

[Robert Riedel]

greetings from holy toledo!

if i am catching your drift here, the query concerns as to whether the aledged 6th density soul group going by the handle of "ra" is still in the neighborhood, perhaps hanging out on a moon of the planet jupiter, ganymede?

good question! and it follows, that all 6thd soul groups have to be somewhere; why not on/around a moon of jupiter? i mean, we all need someplace to call home, or at least some means/location to receive our "mail."

my own "first contact" with the ra consciousness occured back in about 1979, or 1980, during a time when as occasionally the big ole world will deal you a bad hand, (or maybe someone's stacking our decks?), and i found myself living back in my fathers attic- really quite a nice little pad, actually. just down the road from where i am residing now, as his home was located in one of the southern suburbs of cleveland.

while standing around one night, contemplating celestial concepts, it was like suddenly, "the lights came on," don't know how else to describe it- and the "pressence of ra" made itself a part of my space for a period of time, and it is a kind of a "knowing," that has stayed with me all these years. there were no messages, for at the time i probably wasn't even aware that such a thing as a 6thd soul group exists, but just a commanding "pressence," to announce their existance.

are they still around? i would bet my bottom dollar- how 'bout you, david?

bob

[jax]

since this thread has met with tenative approval (other channelers not allowed here) i took the liberty of doing a google search of the key words -rama mission ganymede- and found several sites about this matter. looks interesting. the second looks like it has to do with the great white brotherhood. gotta read the material b4 i can say yea or nay. :rolleyes:
http://www.misionrahma.com/ingles/ingles.htm
http://www.mysterious-america.net/sixtopazwellsint.html

[moderator: there are no overtly negative messages in this material, though on the 'factoid' level, such as names and dates, there are a variety of inconsistencies with the law of one material. though we do not endorse this material, on the philosophical level it is essentially positive.

part of why we ask that channeling not be posted is it forces us to survey the material before considering its release, and this consumes valuable staff time.]

[soup]

at some point it seems the utility of name must
interfere with growth in unity, that in the interest
of dissolving a sense of separation the body of
work with its "ra" label are left behind as simply
an artifact of a communication experiment that
occured once upon a time. my impression is that
the super natural influence that approached carla
is alive and well and quite active though may not
be choosing to work or operate in that same way,
at this time. possibly there is follow on work of
observing the impact of the experiment as the
information of the artifact ripples along.

[jeremy6d]

very well said, soup. ultimately, if we lend any credence whatsoever to the reality of ra as they describe themselves, we need to appreciate that they are still "out there". it's much more likely that we don't perceive them, for the same reasons humans don't perceive a lot of total reality.

my impression from the material is that ra chose to work in an explicit manner with an extremely unique group of individuals. the intimacy of the group made possible a level of communication that would otherwise take place in a much more intrapersonal, subjective manner. i expect that they continue to work in many more subtle forms regularly, most likely directly with individuals in a subconscious or dream state. in fact, my first reading from david indicated that they would communicate with me via dreams.

if i could venture a speculative guess, i'd say that the level of intimacy a group has to achieve in order to be able to deal with ra's communications exceeds most individuals' personal discipline, let alone interpersonal. in no way, shape, or form does that mean that contact is not achievable. but to me, it seems much simpler to focus on working on the self, and let contact come when it must naturally come, in whatever way it happens. trust that the entities in higher densities know best how to help you at any given time.

[MarkM]

as david points out, his higher self is a member of ra. ra is the 'social memory complex' of an entire planet's worth of humanity in sixth density, thus any human's higher self from that planet's third density experience is also a member of ra.
there are many wanderers upon this planet, who also might share ra as a higher self, but realize that the human life wave from earth is destined to also become a social memory complex as well, eventually evolving through the densities, and as such we also have a 'ra' type higher self. perhaps by sixth density ra has become part of a grander form of social memory complex, incorporating within itself our own future social memory complex, but this is only conjecture on my part. but in keeping with the law of one, think of eighth density; the higher self of all, and available to all! as all are part of the one, each has access to all.
yours in oneness, mark

[jeremy6d]

as david points out, his higher self is a member of ra. ra is the 'social memory complex' of an entire planet's worth of humanity in sixth density, thus any human's higher self from that planet's third density experience is also a member of ra.

just to clarify, ra is the sixth density social memory complex derived from what was the third density inhabitants of venus, according to their own words. while ra assists third density inhabitants of earth, they do not comprise, nor do they represent, the earth's social memory complex, which they claim is still in formation.

david claims to originate from the ra complex, and he claims that many wanderers are members of ra. but the humans those wanderers came here to help originate from a variety of second and third density planets unassociated with ra (except, of course, in the ultimate sense of being one with all).

[soup]

i have difficulty drawing bounded separations around concepts of higher selves. to me its almost as if the name construct "ra" was a humble offering to help literate people organize their thought structures as they grow in the study of the materials. it may be that in the greater reality the entity or complex or whatever you want to call it contains intrically high degrees of interconnection with "other" such complexes named elsewise for the benefit of literal organizations - interconnected to such extents that the interconnected complexes could be considered one and the same complex which takes on "roles" in timewise bounded correspondances - exaggerating this or that characteristic which gives a semblance of distinguishable personality. i hesitate to assume that higher density complexes are limited to one distinguishable personality - its probably more likely that there is only one higher self complex which is capable of multiple personalities, as an actor or actress who is able to switch roles depending upon the needs at hand. also i hesitate to assume that the complex acts serially one activity at a time, it seems likely that multiplexing is possible which may likely confound
the idea of separate individuated higher selves.

[sergejsh]

since this thread has met with tenative approval (other channelers not allowed here) i took the liberty of doing a google search of the key words -rama mission ganymede- and found several sites about this matter. looks interesting. the second looks like it has to do with the great white brotherhood. gotta read the material b4 i can say yea or nay. :rolleyes:
http://www.misionrahma.com/ingles/ingles.htm
http://www.mysterious-america.net/sixtopazwellsint.html

[moderator: there are no overtly negative messages in this material, though on the 'factoid' level, such as names and dates, there are a variety of inconsistencies with the law of one material. though we do not endorse this material, on the philosophical level it is essentially positive.

part of why we ask that channeling not be posted is it forces us to survey the material before considering its release, and this consumes valuable staff time.]
hello,

this "rama mission" (it had different names) started as physical encounter with extraterrestrials in peru, 1974. and as i know it never was as channeling.

everything started as attempt to make a contact with ets using "automatic writing" or "psychography". this unexpectedly gave positive result and later - sighting of "flying saucer" and physical encounter with extraterrestrials.

links provided above do not represent original information. person, who started organizing groups, and who gave name "rama mission", now living in toronto and i met with him every month. today project's name is "sunesis project" and i am part of it (i am from toronto too). there is official international website - http://www.sunesis.ca/home.html, where you can read short story about how everything began - http://www.sunesis.ca/historicala.html, and basic information about project, objectives etc.

few days ago i saw video interviews with david (project camelot) and have found similarities i know from this project - about mars, about how ets travel through space-time, about confederation etc., what is very interesting to me. there is a lot what can be shared.

first i wanted to sent email about this to david, but i think he is too busy to read. so i decided to start to talk about this on forum. i want to prepare most interesting information i know from this project, and will publish it on my personal website later.

sorry for my english, it's not my first language.

all the best,
sergey

[sergejsh]

maybe i need to start separate discussion under name "sunesis project", because there can be more messages and i think this not directly related to subject "about ra".

after i started to talk about "sunesis project", i felt it is need to say about one my experience. after i read about dreams david had on ufo and et subjest, i think this is appropriate place where i can tell about one of my "strange dreams". i believe it is directly connected to my appearance in "sunesis project". but i should say that it is only my personal assumption - nobody told me that, no "et messages" i had about that etc. for me it is still looks strange and sometimes i am not sure is it true or is it just my strange fantasies or something like that.

so, after i came into "sunesis project", after some time i saw a picture from one of the books describing all this story. in that book was picture of two figures, representing two types of extraterrestrials, which are in contact with people from this project. this drawing made by person who started organizig all these groups and who participated in first contacts. one extraterrestrial in that picture is a very tall figure (i was told it is about 3 meters). but face... when i saw his face, i suddenly have found it's similarity with face i saw in one of my strange dreams. i saw that dream about 10 years ago - i do not remember exactly when, but i have somewhere this exact date.

in that dream i saw two big figures. i do not remember their dress, but for sure it was white or very light color. and it was form-fitting. but i remember face only of one of the figures. i am looking at him up from the bottom - and he is very tall, even considering that i am 1 m 93 cm - and even in dream i can't believe he is extraterrestrial. in my dream i am aware that i am dreaming and i think, that this is possible just strange dream and, actually, this face i see is somewhere similar to face of one of my classmates from my school. so probably i see him in my dream (that's what i was thinking at that moment). and i say that to that figure: you looks similar to my classmate. and he smiled, took me for the shoulders, raised me and put in the other place nearby and said something like: "ok... it's time you to go home".

but at that moment i am aware not just about that i am sleeping rith now, but also that the earth is "somewhere there... beneath". i do not see it, i do not remember any windows or how room looks like (i remember only everything around was dark and i do not see any details, only those two figures). but i felt that the earth is "somewhere here" and i am sleeping there right now.

ok, so after he said that it is tome for me to go home, there was very interesting way how it should be done. i remember there was a black circle on the floor, very close to the wall. i remember also that there was no dark. so, i needed to step into that black circle, and to concentrate my mind. and... after that i should be at home already. so, i was trying to concentrate, but there was no success. then somebody put me outside of that room and closed the door. i remember the door looked like aluminum, and there was window with white curtain, like i saw in hospital. between curtain and window there was little space, so i was able to see what happening in that room. and i saw one of my friends, who was standing inside of black circle on the floor and he was trying to concentrate.

that's it. from that moment i remember nothing. this was very realistic dream, like "i was there". and i still remember everything in details. and if i would meet that extraterrestrial with that face, i believe i would recognize him.

but now i see that picture in the book, and here it is - almost the same face! how strange.

and what a coincidence - i have immigrated in canada in same year, when this person from "sunesis project" came here from brazil. and now we met and i am happy to be here.

that's all what i wanted to tell about my dream. and here it is - that picture from the book, with that big extraterrestrial on the right side:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2284/etguidesje6.jpg