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M.W.
09-21-2006, 05:42 PM
Hi, all!

As is usually the case following something posted on asc2k I soon run
into related material that expands and develops the thoughts
expressed.

It seems one of the most troublesome aspects of the Ra material
concerns the role of polarity.

Chapter #6 of the Wanderer's Handbook (found on LLResearch.org)really
gets its teeth into the subject.

From Q'uo

We have used the terms "the way of that which is" to describe the
path of the positive polarity and "the path of that which is not" to
describe the path of negative polarity. Both paths reach the same
Creator. (that last statement is a real shocker! b.g.)

(discussion)

Question: What is that which is? Unity. What is that which is not?
Separation.

(following abridged thoughts from the WH butchered by b.g.)

Positive polarity chooses to give love and sevice without expectation
of return.. Negative polarity see others as needing to be controlled
and protected for their own good by the self.

TO LOVE without demand or to CONTROL is THE
choice of this third density.

The dark side does provide a vital service to spiritual growth.

The point was made that in youth service-to-self is mandatory since
a child is not equipped in any real fashion to engage in true service
to others. A child must wait until he/she gains a reasonable
understanding of the worldly situaion.

Our own "darkside" is best accepted and LOVED...it does provide us
with a needed backbone of strength. Simply being aware of this side
of our nature does not mean that we are negatively polarized in the
final balance.

An interesting example was given.

The flow of spiritual light is much like the flow of water from a
faucet. Service to others is the faucet, pouring forth light... but
to replenish the supply of water it must re-circulate in a big
continuous loop...transversing the full circle of half light/half
dark.

(In Larsonian physics the concept of anti-matter is an essential
component in establishing a reciprocal universe)

I'll wind this down with a comment from Carla:

"This inspires my passionate hope! What we want to avoid is the well
of indifference, that powerless land of the unpolarized"

From Q'uo

Those who are indifferent in your density are those most to be
mourned, for as they eat and drink and are merry without regard to
serving others or the self, they simply continue in this density of
experience, finding upon graduation that they have not graduated,
they have not learned to love, they have not learned to turn towards
the light, or to use the light. And so they shall be given, not hell,
any more than third density is hell, but simply another third-density
experience lasting approximately 75,000 of your years.

love/service/etc., billybob

PS someone brought up a query I would like to respond to:

One does not have to have any intellectual knowledge of the LoO
doctrines to advance spiritually. In fact, merely concentrating on
gaining intellectual knowledge at the expense of actually living and
manifesting love from the heart is downright detrimental.

For myself, one who leans towards reading rather than doing, this
finding is a bothersome warning. It seems I can easily will myself to
read volumes but I cannot directly will myself to generate a warm
heart and noble character. And when things go wrong I respond to the
challenge by assuming the fetal position. Not an optimum use of
valuable catalyst.

The best I can hope is that in learning more it reminds me to keep
pointed in sorta the right direction. Hey! Is there something in the
Ra material about faking it until one make it? (:>)) Guess not.

Tobey Wheelock
09-22-2006, 06:26 AM
I also spend a lot of time reading. I don't know if it will help you,
but this quote from session 96 has helped me "fake it till I make it" on
occasion:

"May we note that just as each entity strives in each moment to become
more nearly one with the Creator but falls short, just so is physical
spotlessness striven for but not achieved. In each case the purity of
intention and thoroughness of manifestation are appreciated. The
variance between the attempt and the goal is never noted and may be
considered unimportant."

Tobey


> Posted by: "M.W. (Bill )Gieskieng" skykieng@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=M2qmc1dgtik7JChQtc8Hp9LhHxt9QJ_6Eyev-jzfnCb8KGh8TgTiQnEnVvo3MbLTvnwvtNqn5EneUL4) billybobbutterball
> Date: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:39 pm (PDT)
>
> For myself, one who leans towards reading rather than doing, this
> finding is a bothersome warning. It seems I can easily will myself to
> read volumes but I cannot directly will myself to generate a warm
> heart and noble character. And when things go wrong I respond to the
> challenge by assuming the fetal position. Not an optimum use of
> valuable catalyst.
>
> The best I can hope is that in learning more it reminds me to keep
> pointed in sorta the right direction. Hey! Is there something in the
> Ra material about faking it until one make it? (:>)) Guess not.

Jenifer
09-22-2006, 11:43 AM
Here's a quote that's made qute an impresion on me,
from another source (The Jason Journal by Ron Goettsche and Ron Fogg),
about accepting ourselves for who and what we are, here and now:

"Accept that at this moment you are a perfect YOU. You may not be finished
because ultimate perfection has not yet been obtained, but that is not necessary
at this point. An apple tree when it is six inches tall does not bear fruit, but
it is a perfect six-inch apple tree at that moment, and it will do that which it
is meant to do both now and in the future. It does perfectly that which it is
meant to do at any given moment. So, also, are you perfect at any given
moment...if you are a six-inch apple tree, you are just that and should not
compare yourself to a seven-inch apple tree."

As this applies to your concerns, Bill, it may be perfectly appropriate
for you to be reading a lot at this time. Reading itself is a form
of doing, after all.

Keep reading!

:-)
Jen



--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=c3ZXz7XeYls8vUXebIak7pX-J1is0CLgH5Pw7XEtSthz3ugua4nZzgtXb1LAcm4kT43Zn1wmL2 ZpcLZ9), Tobey Wheelock <asc2k@...> wrote:
>
> I also spend a lot of time reading. I don't know if it will help you,
> but this quote from session 96 has helped me "fake it till I make it" on
> occasion:
>
> "May we note that just as each entity strives in each moment to become
> more nearly one with the Creator but falls short, just so is physical
> spotlessness striven for but not achieved. In each case the purity of
> intention and thoroughness of manifestation are appreciated. The
> variance between the attempt and the goal is never noted and may be
> considered unimportant."
>
> Tobey
>
>
> > Posted by: "M.W. (Bill )Gieskieng" skykieng@... billybobbutterball
> > Date: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:39 pm (PDT)
> >
> > For myself, one who leans towards reading rather than doing, this
> > finding is a bothersome warning. It seems I can easily will myself to
> > read volumes but I cannot directly will myself to generate a warm
> > heart and noble character. And when things go wrong I respond to the
> > challenge by assuming the fetal position. Not an optimum use of
> > valuable catalyst.
> >
> > The best I can hope is that in learning more it reminds me to keep
> > pointed in sorta the right direction. Hey! Is there something in the
> > Ra material about faking it until one make it? (:>)) Guess not.
>