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Erik
09-13-2006, 07:15 PM
Hello Group,

I do not believe the darkness ( or negative energy) excists.
Being a negative polarised entity i can truly honor the One Infinite Creator.

As always it was a choice to be SELF and find out what this means!

In another cycle you will be me and I will be your experience.
Its a mystery to experience anyway.

Erik.

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jess9dob
09-14-2006, 04:16 PM
In a message dated 9/14/06 3:05:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
e.strasser@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=FNJo6ug8ZYjyTky87Hi7xinL3CRHAjcemYkq2m E6o_9hcQ1i2yuof-6AohcixmnzXlbg8J4wtzscuMgmHak) writes:

> I do not believe the darkness ( or negative energy) excists.
> Being a negative polarised entity i can truly honor the One Infinite
Creator.
>
I read you calling yourself a negative polarized entity, Eric, but you also
say you do not believe negative energy exists. That seems to me like saying
one can be a bully, even though bullying does not exist. Did you mean this
differently than I read it?

To the group: RA says we who serve others must be over 50-percent more
desirous of serving others than serving self in order to be harvestable. That
means we might still be almost 50-percent self-serving. Perhaps we need both
the
desire to serve self and to serve others. Perhaps we need to be self-serving
some in order to have a healthy balance. Perhaps it not the desire to serve
self that is evil, but only the out of balance state of being more into self
service than into contributing to the One.

Then again, if I think of evil as forcing others to submit and serve, I
imagine I should strive to not do that at all. Then again, sometimes it seems
appropriate to make something happen (like to make an attacker stop and go
away).
I make the plants in my garden live in the space I give them, and I trim them
to make them grow in a certain way. Then yet again, my success as a gardener
is also dependent on my growing awareness of what the plant needs and likes
so that I can better provide nurturing.

Agape,
Don Eli

Michael Abrient
09-15-2006, 04:45 AM
On 9/14/06, viviangardens@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=dx4YGS_66iflQ6M3BCdXBXyiSqEru0k6ngAH2w weAkFl90Nk9W_DqBNfgVYFsEJA9BYnAPsFXOe65rqtKwo) <viviangardens@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=dx4YGS_66iflQ6M3BCdXBXyiSqEru0k6ngAH2w weAkFl90Nk9W_DqBNfgVYFsEJA9BYnAPsFXOe65rqtKwo)> wrote:
>
>
> To the group: RA says we who serve others must be over 50-percent more
> desirous of serving others than serving self in order to be
> harvestable. That
> means we might still be almost 50-percent self-serving. Perhaps we need
> both the
> desire to serve self and to serve others.


A: Actually... You can't. The two terms describe polarization, so they are
mutually exclusive, meaning, being 51% STO is conversely 49% STS.

The self/ other awareness goes beyond simple this-ness or that-ness. The
other orientation also includes the self, because objectively you are
another "other". So, a balance is intrinsically struck, in regards to when
you engage in STO-- one's awareness is brought to fulcrum on the greater
whole, and what you're striving for is greater efficacy on your part.

Like I've said, too, STO consists of other-service, and its logical
counterpart, self-mastery; STS is self-service, other-mastery (these are
non-canon terms). So, in the process of self-mastery, one's needs are
accounted for. STS effectively puts a sock in the muffler, since the entropy
begins to cycle back to the self and not outwards, then a poisoning process
begins that can only be ultimately remedied with other-orientation.

As for darkness not existing... Well, it does! I'll take a stand and affirm
the darkness. It does exist insomuch as anything else can, at least on the
essentialism/ non-abstract level. But! Darkness is not inherently evil, no
more than light is inherently good. They're just neutral elements. Though
shady characters gravitate towards darkness, because darkness can conceal--
being in the light, being visible, the skeletons hanging out of the closet,
being out in the open, is being compromised, and that's one thing a shady
character can't be. But you can be dark and not-shady, too. The important
thing is being able to engage in all parts of creation and still be mindful
of the One and have it as your point of reference.

Be well,
A


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Darak
09-15-2006, 01:22 PM
To group:
I know this was alredy answered very well, and that most would agree
that darkness does indeed exist, I wanted to make another point.

Erik,
ALL ARE ONE. This a major point in the teachings of Ra. To say you
honor the One Infinite Creator means that you honor also other-
seleves, since again ALL ARE ONE. From what I understand, in order
to truly polarize towards service to self, one must honor only the
self and not be able to see the self in other-selves. If you honor
the Creator, you honor ALL. The 95 percent requirement makes sense
if this is true. One must be totally, or nearly so, devoted to
actions that show love only of self and not at all towards other-
selves. But since following this path defies a natural Law of the
Universe (ALL ARE ONE) it create an imbalance. According to Ra this
imbalance is resolved in 6D as those polarized towards STS realize
that the only path to the ONE true Creator, lies in realizing that
ALL ARE ONE, thus the switch will evetually be made to STO.
I wanted to share these thoughts with you as a service to you. I
myself am attempting to reach 4D via service to others, because I
beleive ALL ARE ONE and I feel like I can be of service to you. If
this is truly your path, I think in order to ascend you need to
fully absorb yourself in your-self and disbelieve the Truth that ALL
ARE ONE, which would mean you would need to stop honoring the ONE
Infinite Creator. I wish you Love and Light on your journey, with
the hope that you will be able to ascend to the point of realization
that ALL ARE ONE.
I absolutely believe that in another cycle we could switch paths, as
according to RA, it has happened before. I beleive it possible
because I beleive ALL ARE ONE.

Love and Light
Darak
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=wgrVuJ7pIKnvfBDKAbZ1bprywHQPMpB70vfZOk WNroNjcvLvTOTtyouzTohG0e_mIIeXv9hW7c3osN0), "Erik" <e.strasser@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Group,
>
> I do not believe the darkness ( or negative energy) excists.
> Being a negative polarised entity i can truly honor the One
Infinite Creator.
>
> As always it was a choice to be SELF and find out what this means!
>
> In another cycle you will be me and I will be your experience.
> Its a mystery to experience anyway.
>
> Erik.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

jess9dob
09-15-2006, 04:43 PM
In a message dated 9/15/06 6:42:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
abrient@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=79yMiFOg2xtL0lwu5qf7E4R66hSYGPWuTeRZmm le9wS6VIeuL3ARnKBGXyZWhUWeXYaK7Sd0olzfDkQ) writes:

> ...Like I've said, too, STO consists of other-service, and its logical
> counterpart, self-mastery; STS is self-service, other-mastery......So, in
the process of
> self-mastery, one's needs areaccounted for.

Thank you, A. That makes sense. When I think of self-mastery I think of the
discipline to eat a good diet and exercise to improve my body. Even
self-defense is (for me) about practicing my martial arts (discipline) and
striving to
always say no to abuse. These acts of self-mastery are serving the interest
of building a strong body and mind for myself, but this is not selfish if my
purpose is to be able to better serve the One.

> ... Darkness is not inherently evil, no
> more than light is inherently good. They're just neutral elements. Though
> shady characters gravitate towards darkness, because darkness can conceal--
> being in the light, being visible, the skeletons hanging out of the closet,
> being out in the open, is being compromised, and that's one thing a shady
> character can't be. But you can be dark and not-shady, too.

Could you describe an example of how one can be dark, yet not shady.

Agape,
Don Eli

jess9dob
09-15-2006, 05:20 PM
In a message dated 9/15/06 6:15:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
akfu_ecpi@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=Z-6UnOKF5tCLW4g_o3kqQNBWbz-2IzDWkqU5REaoXMG7_hmzDtwHEOXqMAdru5XxtlKm98VuzNRAt g) writes:

> If
> this is truly your path, I think in order to ascend you need to
> fully absorb yourself in your-self and disbelieve the Truth that ALL
> ARE ONE, which would mean you would need to stop honoring the ONE
> Infinite Creator.

Unless one believes in one almighty god that created us to be STS bullies
like he is.

Would not the Great Spirit have both STS and STO, just like each of us
humans? Would not our faith in the Great Spirit being mostly STO or mostly STS
depend on which orientation we each are?

Agape,
Don Eli

strangeangels_9
09-15-2006, 10:35 PM
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=2PzOZlQ_hEHyaSSUDxgHbodQg-ggL-RL--2a5FemcBKhG0uHS1Wk4La5axGvrcsawZBqdJXtw0D8Rt4-Tds), "Darak" <akfu_ecpi@...> wrote:

... According to Ra this
> imbalance is resolved in 6D as those polarized towards STS realize
> that the only path to the ONE true Creator, lies in realizing that
> ALL ARE ONE.


Darak,
Your above statement could also help another in the question that
Creator's purpose is to bring light to dark as it shows even though
the negative path is a part of Creator's experience, according to RA,
at the 6th density even those on the negative path will be in the
realisation that will bring them to STO and back to the path of
returning to the ONE.
Thanks for your helping others with this topic.
StrangeAngel

Michael Abrient
09-16-2006, 08:31 PM
On 9/15/06, viviangardens@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=fED0SVx-y56rrY3bMOy7oySLB8bRyawWStdWn_1zbjwB3cFgf5p47VclRR _zKievk_2EACx_FiXhZsS9) <viviangardens@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=fED0SVx-y56rrY3bMOy7oySLB8bRyawWStdWn_1zbjwB3cFgf5p47VclRR _zKievk_2EACx_FiXhZsS9)> wrote:
>
> Could you describe an example of how one can be dark, yet not shady.


A : I meant shady in the vernacular sense of "having potentially criminal
characteristics". So, sitting in a dark room doesn't make me shady, making
an omlette for myself doesn't mean I'm an egg, sleeping in the garage
doesn't mean I'm a car, etc.

It's a wiseacre answer, but I suck, couldn't help it.


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