Maldekian evolutionary question

[Jeremy Weiland]

Hey all,

I just thought of a question that I meant to ask Scott
Mandelker at the latest Shift tour event and he never
got to answer it with the fans pressing in on him :-)
Thought I'd give it a try here.

If you're familiar with your Ra material (what's
that?) you know that there was a civilization on a now
destroyed planet called Maldek. The Maldekians (?)
destroyed their planet through war, I think, and now
it's just the asteroid belt.

Now, just as we humans are going through soul
evolution, our planet, Earth, is evolving too. In
fact the shift is a galactic event, impacting all
levels of intelligence, including our very own Gaia.

Now my question is: what could it have meant for
Maldek's evolution that it's inhabitants blew it up?
Was this allowed to happen or was there some karmic
reconcilliation, or what? Did the planet sacrifice
itself like many animal species are doing at this
time?

Just curiosity, I guess... I'd be interested in your
thoughts.

Later,

Jeremy

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[Aaron Elder]

Jeremy,
My thoughts on this are, what is now earth, its moon, and the asteroid belt
were once Tiamat, which was split by a collision with one of Nibiru's moons.
I believe Sitchin's findings support this hypothesis, as referenced in the
sumerian creation myth, Marduk's slaying of Tiamat the dragon.
Aaron

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Subject: [asc2k] Maldekian evolutionary question
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:17:58 -0800 (PST)

Hey all,

I just thought of a question that I meant to ask Scott
Mandelker at the latest Shift tour event and he never
got to answer it with the fans pressing in on him :-)
Thought I'd give it a try here.

If you're familiar with your Ra material (what's
that?) you know that there was a civilization on a now
destroyed planet called Maldek. The Maldekians (?)
destroyed their planet through war, I think, and now
it's just the asteroid belt.

Now, just as we humans are going through soul
evolution, our planet, Earth, is evolving too. In
fact the shift is a galactic event, impacting all
levels of intelligence, including our very own Gaia.

Now my question is: what could it have meant for
Maldek's evolution that it's inhabitants blew it up?
Was this allowed to happen or was there some karmic
reconcilliation, or what? Did the planet sacrifice
itself like many animal species are doing at this
time?

Just curiosity, I guess... I'd be interested in your
thoughts.

Later,

Jeremy

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[Chamil1950@...]

Jeremy,
I read the Ra series 3 years ago when it was on-line at L/L Research, so I
probably need to go buy the series and re-read (sorry David:).Of course, now
Barnes and Noble doesn't stock it anymore either-I guess I'll have to go back to
L/L and order it. Anyway, I seem to remember that Ra mentioned (I could have
read it someplace else too) that there were warring factions on the planet
(probably STS's and STO's) and the negative entities just literally blew
themselves and the planet up because they were so power-hungry. Chris

In a message dated Sat, 16 Feb 2002 1:18:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jeremy
Weiland <greenlantern113@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=Olibx2Zm8i3OhMZ2mT86PV7X7Scuyrabw-5AT8bhWdBkc_gbdMRn1lVVkfNig2RnD7ClR0g9Xm3IvjrQ5j_N HRdlQw)> writes:

> Hey all,
>
> I just thought of a question that I meant to ask Scott
> Mandelker at the latest Shift tour event and he never
> got to answer it with the fans pressing in on him :-)
> Thought I'd give it a try here.
>
> If you're familiar with your Ra material (what's
> that?) you know that there was a civilization on a now
> destroyed planet called Maldek. The Maldekians (?)
> destroyed their planet through war, I think, and now
> it's just the asteroid belt.
>
> Now, just as we humans are going through soul
> evolution, our planet, Earth, is evolving too. In
> fact the shift is a galactic event, impacting all
> levels of intelligence, including our very own Gaia.
>
> Now my question is: what could it have meant for
> Maldek's evolution that it's inhabitants blew it up?
> Was this allowed to happen or was there some karmic
> reconcilliation, or what? Did the planet sacrifice
> itself like many animal species are doing at this
> time?
>
> Just curiosity, I guess... I'd be interested in your
> thoughts.
>
> Later,
>
> Jeremy
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[Chamil1950@...]

I believe that the Confederation had decided that these 3D entitities needed to
repeat another 3D experience, which would be carried out on the earth 3D
plane...both thru reincarnation and actual colonization and that some entitities
did indeed escape in a few space vehicles and colonize here. Some of this info
may also be on spiritweb.org Chris

In a message dated Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:12:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jeremy
Weiland <greenlantern113@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=XP2_TqF6lfT0kSrfBfR2ZF1fMSxywSuMbzeoLs glKFHbW__oTEQEhBrsXTT-t7ZiQaIwdmtN8e8AMPtBF5AC)> writes:

> > Anyway, I seem to remember that Ra mentioned (I
> > could have read it someplace else too) that there
> > were warring factions on the planet (probably STS's
> > and STO's) and the negative entities just literally
> > blew themselves and the planet up because they were
> > so power-hungry. Chris
>
> Right, I understand that. My question is, what kind
> of effect did this have on Maldek as a plantary
> consciousness going through an evolution like us? How
> could it have been allowed for such an entity to be so
> annihilated? My understanding is that the Guardians
> would not allow us to do that to our earth. What are
> the conditions or underlying causes that precipitated
> such an event with Maldek?
>
> Jeremy
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[Chamil1950@...]

OK..here is an article, which I haven't finished reading yet
spiritweb.org/Spirit/pluto-celeste.html
You have to remember that spirit web has alot of articles by channellers, and
spirit web tries to keep them all reputable, but some...hmm, that's my opinion.
Because there are different channellers, there are also different stories about
Maldek, so just do a search on the site and it will bring up different articles.
Some articles attempt to explain why they were allowed to blow themselves up.
Then there is the Nibiru theory from Zacharia, who I admire, but I think he's
pretty far out with that theory :) Chris

[Jeremy Weiland]

> Anyway, I seem to remember that Ra mentioned (I
> could have read it someplace else too) that there
> were warring factions on the planet (probably STS's
> and STO's) and the negative entities just literally
> blew themselves and the planet up because they were
> so power-hungry. Chris

Right, I understand that. My question is, what kind
of effect did this have on Maldek as a plantary
consciousness going through an evolution like us? How
could it have been allowed for such an entity to be so
annihilated? My understanding is that the Guardians
would not allow us to do that to our earth. What are
the conditions or underlying causes that precipitated
such an event with Maldek?

Jeremy

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From: "Jeremy Weiland" <greenlantern113@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=RuzLyEghhbP4f5qyoTIfUJve-oAtn6fbNuLPcuCU7ZI2avmarYE8TEl8lERLeJgO6Z9uf8QUr6o v3YZS6taoJ9M)>


> > Anyway, I seem to remember that Ra mentioned (I
> > could have read it someplace else too) that there
> > were warring factions on the planet (probably STS's
> > and STO's) and the negative entities just literally
> > blew themselves and the planet up because they were
> > so power-hungry. Chris
>
> Right, I understand that. My question is, what kind
> of effect did this have on Maldek as a plantary
> consciousness going through an evolution like us? How
> could it have been allowed for such an entity to be so
> annihilated? My understanding is that the Guardians
> would not allow us to do that to our earth. What are
> the conditions or underlying causes that precipitated
> such an event with Maldek?

DW: There is always the potential for an untimely accident. I have had
dreams where I went to Maldek right before it blew, and it was a weird,
grungy place - the vibe was actually quite similar to the cantina scene in
"Star Wars," albeit with human beings who were wearing strange, dark coarse
robelike clothing, and the death star and planetary explosion that occurred
in that movie seemed more than just a coincidence.

The whole thing did happen quite suddenly, though people were aware of
geopolitical tensions before this. In the aftermath of this event, our
Guardians have a much more sophisticated handle on all the nks and can and
will deactivate them at a moment's notice if necessary. It is
extraordinarily unlikely that it could happen here. Others may choose to go
on from there. Let's also say that Hoagland's Mars Tidal Model makes it very
clear that Mars was a moon of Maldek before it blew, since it shows all the
signs of having been captured in it's gravitational field.

Peace be with you -

- David

[Jeremy Weiland]

> DW: There is always the potential for an untimely
> accident. I have had
> dreams where I went to Maldek right before it blew,
> and it was a weird,
> grungy place - the vibe was actually quite similar
> to the cantina scene in
> "Star Wars," albeit with human beings who were
> wearing strange, dark coarse
> robelike clothing, and the death star and planetary
> explosion that occurred
> in that movie seemed more than just a coincidence.

Yeah, but my question is not about the *inhabitants*
of Maldek; I'm more interested in the *planet itself*,
the consciousness within the planet as it's own
entity. I guess I just have a hard time seeing how a
planet could be allowed to be destroyed. In the Ra
material, it seems like Ra depicts Gaia as a victim of
pollution and war and things like that. So that
wouldn't seem to make Maldek, as its own entity,
karmically liable for the negativity on that planet,
and it wouldn't be creating the condition for its own
destruction. I guess it's possible that the planet
could choose to "sacrifice" itself in order to create
a certain condition among its inhabitants, much as Ra
describes that the animal and plant life on earth is
dying out as a sacrificial service to humanity.

There's probably no definitive answer I can expect,
just wondering if anybody had a good explanation.

Jeremy

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[Clark stewart]

Jer,

If you are so interested, why not just tune into the planet's consciousness,
and see/ask why what happened..happened..
Either through RV, or sleep cycle., or both.
Then you can be there, and see learn, you may then realize that you have
something to discovery for the self.
And the implications, would help you understand that, there are no
accidents.

Just learning experience, mind you, this same thing is occuring for the
higher forces as well, and how they interpret the event and gain insight for
future indevours. as DW had said about nks today

Your investigation could be likened to that of a sherlock of a higher D.
If you choose to designate a tuning in , type.
which you are allready doing,on a less accurate level, via
imagination/contemplation.

Now leave that aside, and go with just one thing, connecting with Maldek
gaia.
then when your there, she'll know why your there, it is self explanatory on
those levels.
It is just sustaining the levels to keep that window open..thats the trick.

then imagination/contemplation of how to bring a syntax in explanation to
what she has presented you with.
the essence...the gist....

then you can illuminate us all, :)
PBWY,
Clark


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[Chamil1950@...]

In a message dated Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:12:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jeremy
Weiland <greenlantern113@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=lVBDhIzQKcd5h5MX5_vQtuVi2WyH4x2lrrJMf_ pB6OlResuqUVe1HyZ8So024UmeZ6chjzHNUcwzIqNG6NqlG2g)> writes:
> >
> Right, I understand that. My question is, what kind
> of effect did this have on Maldek as a plantary
> consciousness going through an evolution like us? How
> could it have been allowed for such an entity to be so
> annihilated? My understanding is that the Guardians
> would not allow us to do that to our earth. What are
> the conditions or underlying causes that precipitated
> such an event with Maldek?
>
Hi Jeremy,
> I thought about this last night and maybe my opinion may bring you a solution.
A planet is simply a localized concentration of electrical and magnetic waves
pulsing at frequencies which naturally create a 3D object, in this case, a
sphere. This field of vibration does not have free will/choice. Thus others who
have free will could effect the planet's frequencies. It would seem to me that
the negative polarity that swept Maldek thru the free will choice of it's
inhabitants would have disrupted the planet enough to cause destruction. Take
care Chris
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[Mawk]

Hi Jeremy,

I have read something about the Maldekian evolution but I can not locate the
source. I think it was in one of the free e-books on Uri Geller's web page
link. The e-book more than likely dealt with the Nine.
http://www.tcom.co.uk/hpnet/books.htm From memory the Nine (?) said that
many people reincarnated as 3D humans on Earth. Those that were really
traumatized took the 2D (?) form of rocks and trees.

When I get time I will have a better look. In the meantime it might give you
another direction to explore. If you look in the archives you should find my
Remote Viewing notes on the 12th Planet. The notes only give a description
of the Planet and one of the inhabitants. I have reflected on the data for a
bit now and what I thought was a Space Station may well be the grid for the
12th Planet. There is no doubt in my mind that it exists. My data though
provided no indication of its next appearance in our skies.

I just finished reading Sitchin's book "The 12th Planet" only last week.
Even though it was written in the 70's, it is still worth a read. I would
not say I agree with everything he said, but just to appreciate the
importance of the Sumerian's knowledge and how much is still being used by
us today is eye opening. Aaron was correct about Sitchin's stated hypothesis
in the book concerning the Sumerian creation myth. Sitchin also claimed that
the winged disc represented Nibiru.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

Mawk

PS - I second Clark's suggestion. Nothing like personal experience for
validation.

PSS - Has anyone had any Ascension flavoured dreams recently? I had three in
the space of two weeks around the last full moon. Two of these dreams also
involved healing.

[Mary Jo Fahey]

Hi,
Drunvalo Melchizedek refers to the twelfth planet as Marduk/Nibiru in his
Flower of Life book (vol. 1), p. 81-83, and refers to the symbol of the
oveal with the wings and two cobras coming out of it as the symbol for
Marduk (he references Sitchin). This symbol is on a capstone of a pyramid in
the Cairo Museum. The same symbol is on the lintel of a doorway to a room
inside the Temple of Dendera.

Mark Macy, author of the recently published Miracles in the Storm, refers to
electronic voice phenomena (EVP) experiments and recordings of seven beings
in another dimension -- who claim to have lived on Marduk (the description
of Marduk from Mark's book: "a physical planet called Marduk once shared our
solar system, located in a regular orbit between the orbits of Mars and
Jupiter. It was a lush planet, thriving with riverine communities, home to a
himan civilization far beyond modern Earth in scientific and technological
achievement. Immense powers were attained by such means as large-scale
manipulation os subtle energies with crystals. Genetic engineering, energy
production and other paths of technology brought great wonders to the people
of Marduj but also brought problems. Simple mistakes by genetic engineers
could produce bizarre mutations and mistakes by energy researchers caused
powerful explosions). What was once called EVP is not ITC for Instrumental
Transcommunication. It's no longer just voice but now includes video and
other electronic communication (See Mark's Web site at www.worlditc.org).

Unfortunately, Mark's book tracks the history of the ITC scientists who
achieved great break-throughs but then quarreled and then broke up the
group. I first read about EVP in Harold Sherman's book called The Dead Are
Alive that described a man named Frederick Jurgenson. Frederick recorded
bird sounds in a forest in Sweden in 1959 and discovered several spirit
voices on his tape including his deceased mother. I was curious and tried
recording in July. I became frightened because the first time I tried it, I
recorded a woman sighing twice in my five minute recording. I located Mark
through an EVP group in Nevada (I joined their discussion list and many of
the members have been recording spirits for several decades). When I wrote
to Mark, he told me sighs are common and he urged me to continue. Although
most people record voices of spirits from the astral planes, Mark's group
attracted angelic beings who were interested in helping scientists to
advance the ITC work.

Mark sent me this note a couple of days ago:
Hello friends,
I want to share three things that might deserve your attention. First,
I've developed a sort of roadmap of the spirit worlds based on the
latest results of our research. Second, experiments are underway at
the frontiers of science that could change the way we look at the world.
Third, and most important, this email is an experiment to see if we can
use principles of new science to trigger a breakthrough in ITC
(instrumental transcommunication) research.

I hope you will spread this email if and when you understand my
purpose behind the experiment.

Warmly,
Mark Macy
World ITC
www.worlditc.org

CONTENTS

1. A spirit world roadmap
2. Stretching science to embrace the spirit
3. An experiment with major ramifications
4. Creating a field in which miracles can flourish

<> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
1. A spirit world roadmap

From the Christian Heaven and Hell, to the Bardos of Tibetan
Buddhism . . . from the 12th plane of Eckankar, to Focus 27 at The
Monroe Institute . . . it can be confusing when we try to make sense of
the greater reality that exists beyond the physical realm. To make it
clearer, I have sifted through many years of ITC research around the
world to assemble a new model or roadmap of reality distinguished by
its simplicity and modern flavor. It's a foundation of collected thought
that can be built upon in the future, and it's all on the World ITC
website complete with:

- illustrations,
(http://www.worlditc.org/spiritworldsVariousRealms.htm)

- religious comparisons
(http://www.worlditc.org/spiritworldsRoadmap.htm)

- a crossing-over story
(http://www.worlditc.org/spiritworldsAdventure.htm).

Here's a taste of the crossing-over story:

"The ethereal being said they had reached the border between
form and formlessness, and they would have to undergo a change
before proceeding into the ethereal realm. At that moment the man felt
all remnants of doubt, fear, and insecurity being washed out of his
mind. He felt purified, and the subtle forms around him vanished.
There was a complete lightness of being, and he felt one with
everything . . . .

"His ethereal guide then made it clear to the man that one could
easily lose track of time in this place, and thousands of years on Earth
could pass by in a heartbeat, so they would now return to the astral
realm.

"The subtle forms of paradise began to form magically around
them, and the man realized that he once again had a perfect human
body -- an astral body -- while his guide's body once again emitted
ribbons of rainbow light. And they resumed their tour, moving toward
the man's home frequency -- the place in the astral realm where he
would feel at home with loved ones from his recent lifetime.

"What then? he wondered.

"Indeed, what then? the ethereal being replied with a smile."

2. Stretching science to embrace the spirit

Siyoh Tomiyama, a friend and fellow researcher, recently
finished writing a report on experiments underway in Japan which are
uncovering principles that will change the way we look at the world.
Here's an excerpt from his paper (which can be read in its entirety at
http://www.worlditc.org/newscience.htm):

"A certain hot spring water . . . in Japan has notable healing
power like a fountain at Lourdes in southern France. Researchers who
analyzed the composition of the water found it had many rare minerals.
But the actual results were inconsistent. The results changed from day
to day, experimenter to experimenter. And one experimenter found a
definite change in the water composition when someone passed
behind him!"

(Siyoh explains that science can't deal with these
inconsistencies. The uncertainty principle, developed by German
physicist Werner Heisenberg in 1927, allows for such inconsistent
results in the world under the microscope, but not in the larger world of
our day-to-day reality, even though they do occur. Siyoh continues:)

"Those who do not believe . . . can stop such phenomena from
happening around them, without even knowing it, by using their
subconscious power. Prof. Hayasaka at Toohoku University wrote a
report which concluded that a clockwise-spinning gyro lost some of its
weight . . . by reducing the gravitational force. His report was a
monument to his work, proving the legitimacy of his theory. The
sensational result attracted the attention of world scientists, many of
whom believed the results were ridiculous, and they tried to replicate
the results in their own laboratories, expecting the experiment to fail.
Almost all of them failed. After a few years, Prof. Hayasaka told an
acquaintance of mine wearily, 'What a nasty thing the collective
thought is! I conducted the experiment several hundred times before I
announced it. The results were always duplicated. But now, somehow,
I sometimes have difficulty reproducing them.'"

(A similar phenomenon occurred worldwide recently when a
stream of miraculous spirit communications through radios, TVs,
telephones, computers and other devices suddenly ended. According
to spirit colleagues, the contacts were made possible by harmony and
pure intentions among scientists and researchers from various
countries who were working together for several years in an
association called INIT, and the contacts ended when doubts, fears,
and insecurities arose among many members (as they always seem to
do in human relationships), creating dissonance that could not be fully
resolved. -- MM)

"Sadly enough, an important phenomenon can be stopped when
a certain number of people start to believe it is impossible.." -- Siyoh
Tomiyama

3. An experiment with major ramifications

I would take Siyoh's conclusion one step further to suggest that
the opposite is also true: An important phenomenon that has been
stopped by collective skepticism and dissonance can be revitalized
when collective acceptance and resonance have been restored.

That is the theory we will test with this experiment: If we can get
a large wave of ITC credibility and enthusiasm to spread around the
world in the coming months, information once again will stream
through phones, computers, televisions, and other devices from
intelligent sources beyond the Earth. With this experiment we are
preparing a fertile field in which the miracles of ITC can flourish.

4. Creating a field in which miracles can flourish

Please browse through our website, www.worlditc.org. Then, if
you would like to participate in the experiment by making ITC better
known, please pass this E-letter along selectively to those on your
email list who would enjoy the awareness and possibilities, and have
them pass it on to others, and so on. The more people who hold
positive thoughts about ITC, the better the connection. Again, we are
creating a field in which the miracles of ITC can flourish. There is
nothing to lose but a few moments of your time, and so much to gain!

To participate, simply pass this e-letter along selectively to
those on your email list who you think will be open to wonderful
possibilities. If you need help doing that, please go to
http://www.worlditc.org/experimentTips.htm.

Schedule of proposed experiment:
February 15, 2002 -- February 15, 2003

Thank you for taking the time to read this email and, hopefully,
passing
it along to others!

Mark Macy

[Tiffani Boswell]

Hi Jeremy..

haven't read all the posts from the long weekend so i hope this helps...
i don't remember much bout RA talking about the "consciousness" of any
planets...other than the sun "logos" etc etc...

but i know i have recently read in the Seth books that the planet reflects
the "consciousness" of its inhabitants per say...

so it would then be my theory (totally my own opinion) that we at this time
have enough positive to keep that from hapenning so the Guardians wouldn't
let it happen...but maybe Maldek had so much actual self destructive
consciousness within everything "on" it that it just let it happen to
reflect the "one" of it all...

just a thought
tiffani
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> > DW: There is always the potential for an untimely
> > accident. I have had
> > dreams where I went to Maldek right before it blew,
> > and it was a weird,
> > grungy place - the vibe was actually quite similar
> > to the cantina scene in
> > "Star Wars," albeit with human beings who were
> > wearing strange, dark coarse
> > robelike clothing, and the death star and planetary
> > explosion that occurred
> > in that movie seemed more than just a coincidence.
>
> Yeah, but my question is not about the *inhabitants*
> of Maldek; I'm more interested in the *planet itself*,
> the consciousness within the planet as it's own
> entity. I guess I just have a hard time seeing how a
> planet could be allowed to be destroyed. In the Ra
> material, it seems like Ra depicts Gaia as a victim of
> pollution and war and things like that. So that
> wouldn't seem to make Maldek, as its own entity,
> karmically liable for the negativity on that planet,
> and it wouldn't be creating the condition for its own
> destruction. I guess it's possible that the planet
> could choose to "sacrifice" itself in order to create
> a certain condition among its inhabitants, much as Ra
> describes that the animal and plant life on earth is
> dying out as a sacrificial service to humanity.
>
> There's probably no definitive answer I can expect,
> just wondering if anybody had a good explanation.
>
> Jeremy
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[Jeremy Weiland]

Hey Tiffani,

> i don't remember much bout RA talking about the
> "consciousness" of any
> planets...other than the sun "logos" etc etc...

Yeah, I'll have to give it another look. Could have
sworn Ra mentioned something about planets having
their own consciousness and level of evolution. In
any case, I first thought of this question at the
Santa Fe Shift event, and went up to Dr. Mandelker to
ask him about it. He began to answer me by confirming
that planets have their own evolution and that the
ascension event in our near future affects the
planet's consciouness as well - but he got distracted
by some other people wanting to meet him.

I'll look in Ra to see if I can get a better idea of
what a planetary consciousness is and to what degree
it's consciousness and evolution is separate from its
inhabitants.

> but i know i have recently read in the Seth books
> that the planet reflects
> the "consciousness" of its inhabitants per say...

If this is the case, then the Maldek incident would
make perfect sense... my question is only relevant if
what I postulated above is true.

> so it would then be my theory (totally my own
> opinion) that we at this time
> have enough positive to keep that from hapenning so
> the Guardians wouldn't let it happen...but maybe
> Maldek had so much actual self destructive
> consciousness within everything "on" it that it just
> let it happen to reflect the "one" of it all...

That would make sense if the fate of planets depended
upon their inhabitants. My understanding, however,
was that Gaia was *allowing* much of the negative
activity to occur out of love.

Later,

Jeremy

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