2012 probability dream

[darrylthornebarnes]

i haven't posted in a while, but i had a dream last night relating
to ascension and 2012 and i thought i should share it.

some background: there has/had been a polarization on this forum
relating to the possible events of 2012. let's call one side the
sudden dramatic event camp. this theory says that there will be a
pole shift or some other catistrophic event where all of the non-
ascendees parish and the ascendees do not. there are several
variations that fit under this category. the other camp is the
gradual transition camp whereby the non-ascendees are replaced with
4d folks over time and the whole transition is seemless and most are
unaware that anything fundemental has really changed. i have to say
that i have been firmly the gradual transition camp. the
interesting thing about polarizations of ideas is that many times
the truth is somewhere in the middle.

my dream started out with a voice ephatically proclaiming "there
will be a physical event". then i was shown storm that quickly
built in the sky where i was located. the storm was like a
hurricane with the exception that temperatures droped to below
freezing during the storm. a little fuzzy here, but i sensed that
the core of the storm lasted about 3 days and then it continued to
rain for another 30 or so. this storm occured everywhere at once.
i got the distinct feeling that if you were not prepared then you
could quite possibly die during the month but many do survive
somehow. as i was waking up from the dream the idea popped into my
head that this was analogous to the biblical great flood and marked
a new beginning.

ok, so how does this relate to the polarized ascension theory talked
about above. well, i believe from my impression of the dream that
both harvest candidates and non-harvest candidates survive the
event, and the world doesn't suddenly become a 4d paradise, but in
actuality a really difficult place to survive for a while. of
course, the event changes everything and forcing people to
completely re-order their lives. some will see it as hell
(armagedon realized) and some will be quite happy with the
change....namely those who are physicall and spiritually prepared.
much mutual coorperation to survive...read service to others. and
this or course is not a completely gradual transition either. so, i
see this as a third middle-ground possibility. didn't explain
everything, but i'm short on time. will expand if there is
interest....

regards, darryl

[bjorn_nitmou]

why do you think your dream relates to 2012? sounds like a pretty
bad storm, that definitly makes people assess their current lifestyle
and the spirtual implications, but this could happen any time now,
and still not necessarily relate to 2012.






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<darrylthornebarnes@...> wrote:
>
>
> i haven't posted in a while, but i had a dream last night relating
> to ascension and 2012 and i thought i should share it.
>
> some background: there has/had been a polarization on this forum
> relating to the possible events of 2012. let's call one side the
> sudden dramatic event camp. this theory says that there will be a
> pole shift or some other catistrophic event where all of the non-
> ascendees parish and the ascendees do not. there are several
> variations that fit under this category. the other camp is the
> gradual transition camp whereby the non-ascendees are replaced with
> 4d folks over time and the whole transition is seemless and most
are
> unaware that anything fundemental has really changed. i have to
say
> that i have been firmly the gradual transition camp. the
> interesting thing about polarizations of ideas is that many times
> the truth is somewhere in the middle.
>
> my dream started out with a voice ephatically proclaiming "there
> will be a physical event". then i was shown storm that quickly
> built in the sky where i was located. the storm was like a
> hurricane with the exception that temperatures droped to below
> freezing during the storm. a little fuzzy here, but i sensed that
> the core of the storm lasted about 3 days and then it continued to
> rain for another 30 or so. this storm occured everywhere at once.
> i got the distinct feeling that if you were not prepared then you
> could quite possibly die during the month but many do survive
> somehow. as i was waking up from the dream the idea popped into my
> head that this was analogous to the biblical great flood and marked
> a new beginning.
>
> ok, so how does this relate to the polarized ascension theory
talked
> about above. well, i believe from my impression of the dream that
> both harvest candidates and non-harvest candidates survive the
> event, and the world doesn't suddenly become a 4d paradise, but in
> actuality a really difficult place to survive for a while. of
> course, the event changes everything and forcing people to
> completely re-order their lives. some will see it as hell
> (armagedon realized) and some will be quite happy with the
> change....namely those who are physicall and spiritually prepared.
> much mutual coorperation to survive...read service to others. and
> this or course is not a completely gradual transition either. so,
i
> see this as a third middle-ground possibility. didn't explain
> everything, but i'm short on time. will expand if there is
> interest....
>
> regards, darryl
>

[MeSk8rdude@...]

jacob here:

hi darryl, your dream sounds very prophetic in a sense. ra speaks of
many earth changes, that they have already begun and they will continue
and increase in intensity until the ascension. in a sense things are
gradual, they have been gradually increasing. i consider my dreams to
be very prophetic as well, involving many dreams about flooding, panic,
fear, disaster, and gathering people together to prepare for the
ascension. i agree with your statement "somewhere in the middle." there
is a book i have read by art bell / whitley streiber called "the coming
global superstorm" which is the book the motion picture "the day after
tomorrow" is based on. if you understand how climate works you will
know that oceanic currents and the sun's activity drive our weather.
david wilcock a while back posted a link and an article about the solar
minimum and the solar maximum (which is to be the strongest we have
witnessd, 30-50% stronger) which many scientists believe will culminate
in the year 2012, another syncronocity. also when heat is added to a
chemical reaction many times it acts as a catalyst to drive this
reaction more rapidly. so back to the book... the authors have come to
the conclusion that the earth will release all this energy in the form
of a giant supercell storm that will engulf the entire earth and will
last as long as it takes for the energy and inbalance to fix itself.
quite scary you can imagine, but the earth is trying to purify itself
and in my opinion we are in for quite the ride. as for the magenetic
pole shift: picture this sphere that we reside upon like a giant
magnet, we live on tectonic plates. if this reversal takes place,
imagine these "magnets" being moved around quite a bit. can you say
earthquakes??? in the bible and the koran it speaks of three days of
darkness, finally then when the sun rises it will rise in the west.
sounds to me like a magnetic reversal... i have had dreams of
magnificent, red flaming balls of light in the sky, which to me looked
like some type of comets entering our atmosphere. the spiritually
prepared people will welcome these events and changes and should not
resist them. ra says that by the year 2013 earth will be a 4d planet
and that this harvest in particular is going to be difficult because of
the earth changes and resistance.

darryl: "ok, so how does this relate to the polarized ascension theory
talked
about above. well, i believe from my impression of the dream that
both harvest candidates and non-harvest candidates survive the
event, and the world doesn't suddenly become a 4d paradise, but in
actuality a really difficult place to survive for a while. of
course, the event changes everything and forcing people to
completely re-order their lives. some will see it as hell
(armagedon realized) and some will be quite happy with the
change....namely those who are physicall and spiritually prepared.
much mutual coorperation to survive...read service to others. and
this or course is not a completely gradual transition either."

jacob here:

in the bible it speaks of this type of event, where the people will
basically experience hell on earth until the second coming of jesus the
christ. people are to not turn away from god, they will think god
doesn't exist because of this suffering they will endure during this
period. they will say "where is this coming that he promised." but as
he promised, he would "return with the clouds with the army of the
lord." the righteous would be "caught up with him in the clouds." in
the law of one series, i believe it is book 2 or 3 ra speaks about the
actual harvesting event, how it will be supervised and i perceive this
whole event as a very physical one, and to me "clouds" symbolizes
spacecraft hovering in the sky, especially since i have had several
dreams where spacecraft resembling flat round clouds will the sky.

so very interesting dream and i would like to further discuss this
topic.

in love and light,

jacob

[congahead2000]

hello darryl and all-
just reading through all of this ( great read btw- and thanks to
david also for taking the time to spell out his gleani8ngs from ra)
one point i would like to make about chaos/ or not. if you're
sitting in your cosy house chatting with us all on the internet (like
i am right now) , chaos is a "possibility " that you're contemplating.
if you are where the earthquake just hit, in the middle of a
battlezone, in a famine plagued area, in a society that is basically
dying off due to aids- etc. etc. the chaos and difficulties are not a
possibility, they are quite real and in your here and now. the
opportunity for catalist is everpresent.
to those who hear about these "catalist-clismic" events by remote
viewing -ie the media, the catalist is more cerebral.

just throwing in 2cents! lol/ll

[darrylthornebarnes]

yes, that's an interesting perspective. so, the chaos is more
symbolic for the population as a whole.

you could also take the same perspective of the ascension event.
perhaps it also only happens to a few and could be largely symbolic
to the whole. of course, the lo is more specific on this point, but
it's hard to say what's being said is symbolic or literal in many
instances.

regards, darryl

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>
> hello darryl and all-
> just reading through all of this ( great read btw- and thanks to
> david also for taking the time to spell out his gleani8ngs from ra)
> one point i would like to make about chaos/ or not. if you're
> sitting in your cosy house chatting with us all on the internet
(like
> i am right now) , chaos is a "possibility " that you're
contemplating.
> if you are where the earthquake just hit, in the middle of a
> battlezone, in a famine plagued area, in a society that is
basically
> dying off due to aids- etc. etc. the chaos and difficulties are
not a
> possibility, they are quite real and in your here and now. the
> opportunity for catalist is everpresent.
> to those who hear about these "catalist-clismic" events by remote
> viewing -ie the media, the catalist is more cerebral.
>
> just throwing in 2cents! lol/ll
>

[congahead2000]

<darrylthornebarnes@...> wrote:
> yes, that's an interesting perspective. so, the chaos is more
> symbolic for the population as a whole.

conga: speculation is an interesting exercise. i don't have any
"insider " info. but my guess is 3d change to other 3d will be either
continous or unconcious ( the same as regular transition/death )
same with some 3>4d. more aware 4d'ers might be aware of the
process and still others might walk into it fully cognisant. or not!
i am taking my best guess.
and it would be interesting to try and figure a % of the current
population that at a givin time/average is directly experienceing
catalist vs those who hear of it second hand. ( and i am aware of even
the catalist of thought brings emotion brings change)
there have been many tough times here on earth. this might not be the
biggest. ww2 had a worldwide effect. but not all were on the battlefield.
-c