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kmelby0001@...

12-27-2000, 08:51 AM

thank you matthew,
i am glad to see that someone has balls enough the talk straight!!
i agree with you.

kory melby mn

Matthew

12-27-2000, 01:14 PM

once again i log on to spill my drivel. the phenomena that
pervades my mind is apathy. bottom line is...most people don't give a
****. lately i have been pondering over physics, of the
hyperdimensional sort, and as a result of my mental over-indulgence,
i have taken my hobbie to work. during slow hours i ponder over the
possibilities that present themselves within aetheirc, or string
theory type (spin) physics. i'm casually interuppted by the
inquisitive," what in the hell are you doing?" i respond with," i'm
trying to unravel the mobius strip of reality, and find god within
myself." i receive with mirth the statement of," your ****in crazy."
this string of words echoes within my skull for quite some
time....your ****in crazy.
i am.
why?
cause i give a ****.

cause i contain within me a hunger that supercedes the need for food.
i want to know. i have to know. perhaps i never left the "why" stage
of a four year old. perhaps my shoes were two sizes too small. but i
care about what is really going on. and in my quest to interest
people in how much there is to learn, and how vastly perfect the
universe is in design and quanta, i have been thwarted. by none other
than the subjective wall of perspective.

it is true that we create our own reality. we are responsible (for
the most part) for our own happiness. and how is this?
reality is completely subjective! my reality is golden, i have
managed to think myself out of negativity, i have managed to wrest
(for the most part) control of my emotions and behavior. i have
discovered the key to happiness. but i have been lucky.

imagine the reality of a starving child. a child disheveled and
tortured through a lack of sustenance. withered musculature too weak
to respond to the fly that rests on the cornea. too dazed from fever
to swallow water. knowing only the visceral pains of deprivation.

imagine the reality of your average american. who is outraged that
his bigmac had too much lettuce, and pissed that he didn't get what
he wanted for christmas. this person's largest concern is how he
looks, what he wears, and what he does. this person is ambivalent to
the state of the world and likewise apathetic to all but himself and
his concerns. his life is empty because it is composed souly of him,
and the pursuit of things for him. i asked a guy i know (he claims to
be a devout christian) what he thought heaven was ( mind you this
person is not stupid and above average intelligence) his reply
was "in heaven you get all the stuff you wanted, you can have
anything as a rewaard for being a good christian" my reply was "you
have got be kidding me"

i know not the mind of every man, but i am disturbed by the overall
lack of caring, lack of thought, and lack of meaning that is promoted
by western society. we have become a social machine based on
production, solicitation, and purchase. bereft of truth we languish
in the primordial magma of ignorance.

my dilemma:
how do you fix this problem
how do you prompt self-thought
how do you convince people to turn of the goddamn tv and think about
something other than themselves
how do you inspire contemplation all things

answer:
you can't
look at what happened to jesus
look what happened to socrates
look what happened to every ****ing martyr that had something good to
say and inspired people.

conclusion:
most people throughout history would rather languish in a
materialistic slave-style pursuit of nothing. most people would
prefer to maintain the status quo. most people would rather be told
what to do. most people would rather be safe than be free.

none is more enslaved than he who mistakenly beleives himself to be
free. - goethe

free the slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

Rod Johnson

12-27-2000, 02:16 PM

mathew,

there are many people who share your sentiments. so do i, but i never took
the liberty to bullish them because something inside indicated that their
conclusions and rationalizations would follow on the wake of other
realizations about life.

something that you might consider is this. statistically it is assumed that
only 25 percent of the populat have an iq over 125. this world is a place
where most incarnations are for very young imature souls but evolving souls
non the less. all of the injustices of life have to have something in them
for the soul purpose.

even this shall come to pass. if you really do meditate then all is well.

rod deebokonon

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subject: [asc2k] apathy

once again i log on to spill my drivel. the phenomena that
pervades my mind is apathy. bottom line is...most people don't give a
****. lately i have been pondering over physics, of the
hyperdimensional sort, and as a result of my mental over-indulgence,
i have taken my hobbie to work. during slow hours i ponder over the
possibilities that present themselves within aetheirc, or string
theory type (spin) physics. i'm casually interuppted by the
inquisitive," what in the hell are you doing?" i respond with," i'm
trying to unravel the mobius strip of reality, and find god within
myself." i receive with mirth the statement of," your ****in crazy."
this string of words echoes within my skull for quite some
time....your ****in crazy.
i am.
why?
cause i give a ****.

cause i contain within me a hunger that supercedes the need for food.
i want to know. i have to know. perhaps i never left the "why" stage
of a four year old. perhaps my shoes were two sizes too small. but i
care about what is really going on. and in my quest to interest
people in how much there is to learn, and how vastly perfect the
universe is in design and quanta, i have been thwarted. by none other
than the subjective wall of perspective.

it is true that we create our own reality. we are responsible (for
the most part) for our own happiness. and how is this?
reality is completely subjective! my reality is golden, i have
managed to think myself out of negativity, i have managed to wrest
(for the most part) control of my emotions and behavior. i have
discovered the key to happiness. but i have been lucky.

imagine the reality of a starving child. a child disheveled and
tortured through a lack of sustenance. withered musculature too weak
to respond to the fly that rests on the cornea. too dazed from fever
to swallow water. knowing only the visceral pains of deprivation.

imagine the reality of your average american. who is outraged that
his bigmac had too much lettuce, and pissed that he didn't get what
he wanted for christmas. this person's largest concern is how he
looks, what he wears, and what he does. this person is ambivalent to
the state of the world and likewise apathetic to all but himself and
his concerns. his life is empty because it is composed souly of him,
and the pursuit of things for him. i asked a guy i know (he claims to
be a devout christian) what he thought heaven was ( mind you this
person is not stupid and above average intelligence) his reply
was "in heaven you get all the stuff you wanted, you can have
anything as a rewaard for being a good christian" my reply was "you
have got be kidding me"

i know not the mind of every man, but i am disturbed by the overall
lack of caring, lack of thought, and lack of meaning that is promoted
by western society. we have become a social machine based on
production, solicitation, and purchase. bereft of truth we languish
in the primordial magma of ignorance.

my dilemma:
how do you fix this problem
how do you prompt self-thought
how do you convince people to turn of the goddamn tv and think about
something other than themselves
how do you inspire contemplation all things

answer:
you can't
look at what happened to jesus
look what happened to socrates
look what happened to every ****ing martyr that had something good to
say and inspired people.

conclusion:
most people throughout history would rather languish in a
materialistic slave-style pursuit of nothing. most people would
prefer to maintain the status quo. most people would rather be told
what to do. most people would rather be safe than be free.

none is more enslaved than he who mistakenly beleives himself to be
free. - goethe

free the slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

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David Wilcock

12-28-2000, 08:47 AM

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>the ra series has excellent guidelines on these types of situations. in one area they say, "we encourage a dispassionate attempt to disseminate this information, without violating free will." so in other words, don't fret about it. when you get up to the seventh density you see all as sacramental, and that means that everything is working out in divine order. most of the high-6d wanderers from ra will be going right back to working on this 7d curriculum after the shift, and some of us can even work on it now. 
>
>now here's an interesting point that dr. mandelker demonstrated to me in our most recent conversation. once you get to 7d, even the idea of being a wanderer becomes an error in judgment, because by that point the "looking backward is finished" and you see all as functioning perfectly in divine order. that's why there are no 7d wanderers. these points are touched upon in various areas of the study guide.
>
>bottom line: this planet was an experiment where several "cycle repeaters" from various other planets were combined together. this can be seen in the racial and personality diversities that we have on this planet. you have souls from mars, some from maldek and others from other places. ra indicates that most chinese are from a planetary system around the star deneb. 
>
>so as you know if you've already read the intro section on my website, the confederation put 'em all together and it didn't work out in the most optimal way. that doesn't mean it is "bad;" it was just the creator's experience of itself in our own micro-drama in the universe.supposedly 25% should ascend at the end of the first cycle, the bulk, say 60% or so in the second and the remaining stragglers make it out in the third, if there are even any left. if not, then the planet simply 'hangs out' in third density until it naturally moves through that part of the cycle. sounds like a nice plan.
>
>for earth, after first cycle none ascended. confederation got concerned. after second cycle, about 120 people were ready, and they chose to stay on the earth because of the problem once they learned of it. now the confederation had what they considered, in 6d compassionate wisdom, to be a huge problem on their hands. mass numbers of souls from fifth and sixth density, now numbering well over 100 million, volunteered to incarnate in human form to lighten the planetary vibrations. 
>
>confederation jumped back through the linear timestream of 3-d reality to terraform another planet like the earth, so that the vast majority of earth cycle repeaters would have somewhere to go. it was certainlya "rush job" but it was eminently necessary. one gets the feeling that the big, big cycle of the complete evolution of our galaxy is getting ready to be finished, since it seems like this planet was being used to "round out" the 3-d worlds and get everyone taken care of. this could also explain why ra is so close to being seventh-density themselves.
>
>so we never intended to "rescue" a majority of people. the small number that we can reach is enough, and everyone knew that going in. remember that jesus had three temptations in the desert, and one of them was to change stone into bread and feed the hungry of the world. why wasn't that a good choice? because you can't interrupt someone's free will and break in on their karma.
>
>now here's the rub. free will is one thing, destiny is another. we cannot change the cycle shift that is occurring, and no matter how much we want to "not create" it by not thinking about the social restructurings that are going on, it isgoing to happen regardlessly. i do not apologize for saying this; it just is, and all is sacramental, including this. everyone has been amply warned from all religions and scores of the best prophets that we are in an "end time" for the third-density on this planet. dr. mandelker shies away from any futurists who predict any future of third-density simply because he doesn't see the space-time continuum supporting it after this.
>
>now understand this: my readings and others have made it very clear that those who choose to be of service to others (sto), plain and simple, just the above-50% sto margin which basically means that you do care, will not have to go through the worst earth changes. period. you're in good hands. 
>
>repeat: if you are even vaguely on your spiritual path and working on overcoming selfishness and being nice to other people, you should be fine. just go when you get the chance. those who fear that there is a "trap" in boarding a ufo and that "evil aliens" will eat their bodies are those who are so ruled by fear that they are not compatible with the higher vibrations, and they will naturally sort themselves out. and hey - if you don't want to go and would rather "tough out" the pole shift that's your choice; and for whatever reason that's what is right for you. i certainly wouldn't recommend it. 
>
>as for everyone else, what we will see is an ever-escalating series of difficulties on the planet. the big et-assisted liftoff will happen before any pole shift or mega earth change. however, that doesn't preclude the fact that we will see the economy completely brought to its knees before then. that process has already begun and george w helped to accelerate it by officially statingthat a recession was already hererecently. the mass public was very disturbed to realize that the supreme court partisan republican vote is what actually elected the president, and the market tanked far worse afterwards. 
>
>a lot of the readings that are in the archive from mid to late 1999 cover what is going to happen. just because they are old doesn't make them any less current. things are going to be dramatically different. for people such as those on this list, we should be okay. remember that electricity wasn't such a big deal back in 1929, and this crash is going to be bigger than the great depression. this could have a very adverse effect on services and lead to some people being without electricity and water for periods of time, as is now about to happen in california. 
>
>did anyone here buy gold like i said? i don't think so. but if you've got money in the bank you might as well be prepared to see it turn into monopoly money. use a 20 as a rag for windexing off your monitor, et cetera et cetera. turn your money into lightweight gold coins and it will be much more valuable; you'll be very glad you did.
>
>regarding apathy. the apathy is about to get blown so far out of the water that no one could have ever expected it. this whole scene isn't going to just keep on humming along like nothing ever went wrong. go back please and read those articles from 1999. 
>
>the more it happens the more you can rejoice and know that everything is working exactly according to plan. in an affluent country such as this there will always be food; you may end up doing a completely different job than you had planned, registering yourself through the post office, et cetera, basically just keeping things running on three legs. it is for this reason that i have been instructed to draw a close to my academic / scientific work, declare a point of completion and shift my focus into meditation and preparing my soul for the final transformation. 
>
>i saw "cast away" with tom hanks and encourage everyone else to see it as well. though this is more radical, it is very literally a prophecy of the future. i don't expect the struggle to survive to be anywhere near as intense as his was, but i think that's part of the point. when everything is jumbled up like this, many souls will have their "last chance" to become less self-centered and focus more on helping others. their higher selves very much want them to have this opportunity, which the changes will provide. and after the pole shift, some will survive, and other readings of mine have covered this in detail. the survivors become very important people for the forces to focus on; they are the most ready for change.
>
>it's not your responsibility to worry about how others will deal with global economic collapse or even pole shift. though all these things seem very intense you must hold the highest ideals in your heart. who cares if someone"disses" you now? a person so tied up in alcohol abuse and self-hatred that they can't see past the next paycheck? you have a much larger set of "peers" on the outside of the fisheye lens that love you and support you every step of the way. as does everyone here.
>
>but let it groove. don't worry about the others. shoot for 7d instead of crying out to take the bullet as a fourth-density martyr. yes, jesus went up on the cross, but he had to come back down before he could ascend. the cross was intended to be a metaphor for an internal process anyway; and that's what you should focus on. two thousand years have gone by and you don't need to be a messiah. just let it go. surrender to the perfection of your own path and that which is to unfold on earth - a truly magnificent gift for those who have earned it through their desire to seek the one. 
>
>radiate your realization of oneness with the creator and do not care one whit whether others praise or decry that fact. when you see those who can't handle your beingness, simply bless them and accept that this is their path. "dispassionate attempt" means you "do not offer service where none is requested." 
>
>i'll be gone until monday on my "enforced" vacaction. peace be with you -
>
>- david
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<tt>mathew,

there are many people who share your sentiments. so do i, but i never took
the liberty to bullish them because something inside indicated that their
conclusions and rationalizations would follow on the wake of other
realizations about life.

something that you might consider is this. statistically it is assumed that
only 25 percent of the populat have an iq over 125. this world is a place
where most incarnations are for very young imature souls but evolving souls
non the less. all of the injustices of life have to have something in them
for the soul purpose.

even this shall come to pass. if you really do meditate then all is well.

rod deebokonon

-----original message-----
from: matthew [mailto:amstelland420@aol.com]
sent: wednesday, december 27, 2000 1:14 pm
to: asc2k@egroups.com
subject: [asc2k] apathy

once again i log on to spill my drivel. the phenomena that
pervades my mind is apathy. bottom line is...most people don't give a
****. lately i have been pondering over physics, of the
hyperdimensional sort, and as a result of my mental over-indulgence,
i have taken my hobbie to work. during slow hours i ponder over the
possibilities that present themselves within aetheirc, or string
theory type (spin) physics. i'm casually interuppted by the
inquisitive," what in the hell are you doing?" i respond with," i'm
trying to unravel the mobius strip of reality, and find god within
myself." i receive with mirth the statement of," your ****in crazy."
this string of words echoes within my skull for quite some
time....your ****in crazy.
i am.
why?
cause i give a ****.

cause i contain within me a hunger that supercedes the need for food.
i want to know. i have to know. perhaps i never left the "why" stage
of a four year old. perhaps my shoes were two sizes too small. but i
care about what is really going on. and in my quest to interest
people in how much there is to learn, and how vastly perfect the
universe is in design and quanta, i have been thwarted. by none other
than the subjective wall of perspective.

it is true that we create our own reality. we are responsible (for
the most part) for our own happiness. and how is this?
reality is completely subjective! my reality is golden, i have
managed to think myself out of negativity, i have managed to wrest
(for the most part) control of my emotions and behavior. i have
discovered the key to happiness. but i have been lucky.

imagine the reality of a starving child. a child disheveled and
tortured through a lack of sustenance. withered musculature too weak
to respond to the fly that rests on the cornea. too dazed from fever
to swallow water. knowing only the visceral pains of deprivation.

imagine the reality of your average american. who is outraged that
his bigmac had too much lettuce, and pissed that he didn't get what
he wanted for christmas. this person's largest concern is how he
looks, what he wears, and what he does. this person is ambivalent to
the state of the world and likewise apathetic to all but himself and
his concerns. his life is empty because it is composed souly of him,
and the pursuit of things for him. i asked a guy i know (he claims to
be a devout christian) what he thought heaven was ( mind you this
person is not stupid and above average intelligence) his reply
was "in heaven you get all the stuff you wanted, you can have
anything as a rewaard for being a good christian" my reply was "you
have got be kidding me"

i know not the mind of every man, but i am disturbed by the overall
lack of caring, lack of thought, and lack of meaning that is promoted
by western society. we have become a social machine based on
production, solicitation, and purchase. bereft of truth we languish
in the primordial magma of ignorance.

my dilemma:
how do you fix this problem
how do you prompt self-thought
how do you convince people to turn of the goddamn tv and think about
something other than themselves
how do you inspire contemplation all things

answer:
you can't
look at what happened to jesus
look what happened to socrates
look what happened to every ****ing martyr that had something good to
say and inspired people.

conclusion:
most people throughout history would rather languish in a
materialistic slave-style pursuit of nothing. most people would
prefer to maintain the status quo. most people would rather be told
what to do. most people would rather be safe than be free.

none is more enslaved than he who mistakenly beleives himself to be
free. - goethe

free the slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

to unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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SgtPppr

12-28-2000, 11:53 AM

oh yes, it is very sad. the problem with evolution is that it happens
gradually. some pieces of the species move ahead of the majority and for
this they are condemned. it is truly sad to see a species condemnging its
own evolution forward. more than any time that i have seen in past, today
is the worst for apathy. the norm is god.

"we are going to look at something
here; in a different way, from a
different angle, under a different
light; and if we look at it under
that different light, and from
that different angle, maybe we'll
see it as if it's the first time."
-mjk

steve devries
http://www.immaculatedreams.com

on wed, 27 dec 2000, rod johnson wrote:

> mathew,
>
> there are many people who share your sentiments. so do i, but i never took
> the liberty to bullish them because something inside indicated that their
> conclusions and rationalizations would follow on the wake of other
> realizations about life.
>
> something that you might consider is this. statistically it is assumed that
> only 25 percent of the populat have an iq over 125. this world is a place
> where most incarnations are for very young imature souls but evolving souls
> non the less. all of the injustices of life have to have something in them
> for the soul purpose.
>
> even this shall come to pass. if you really do meditate then all is well.
>
>
> rod deebokonon
>
>
> -----original message-----
> from: matthew [mailto:amstelland420@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=jrkbpaawscalvtqiyhatp-bbwf9uaie8xdcifjzzk3ygeu9-evd9opmj61a2ghdo0_pgqk-z37snqmywifdrwq)]
> sent: wednesday, december 27, 2000 1:14 pm
> to: asc2k@egroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=0dwsjp75zjoyh8lynmoxoawb0uys7kzwfdtd52 sovruxscffqalvmjawho3gqnwtutm8irllz_g)
> subject: [asc2k] apathy
>
>
> once again i log on to spill my drivel. the phenomena that
> pervades my mind is apathy. bottom line is...most people don't give a
> ****. lately i have been pondering over physics, of the
> hyperdimensional sort, and as a result of my mental over-indulgence,
> i have taken my hobbie to work. during slow hours i ponder over the
> possibilities that present themselves within aetheirc, or string
> theory type (spin) physics. i'm casually interuppted by the
> inquisitive," what in the hell are you doing?" i respond with," i'm
> trying to unravel the mobius strip of reality, and find god within
> myself." i receive with mirth the statement of," your ****in crazy."
> this string of words echoes within my skull for quite some
> time....your ****in crazy.
> i am.
> why?
> cause i give a ****.
>
> cause i contain within me a hunger that supercedes the need for food.
> i want to know. i have to know. perhaps i never left the "why" stage
> of a four year old. perhaps my shoes were two sizes too small. but i
> care about what is really going on. and in my quest to interest
> people in how much there is to learn, and how vastly perfect the
> universe is in design and quanta, i have been thwarted. by none other
> than the subjective wall of perspective.
>
> it is true that we create our own reality. we are responsible (for
> the most part) for our own happiness. and how is this?
> reality is completely subjective! my reality is golden, i have
> managed to think myself out of negativity, i have managed to wrest
> (for the most part) control of my emotions and behavior. i have
> discovered the key to happiness. but i have been lucky.
>
> imagine the reality of a starving child. a child disheveled and
> tortured through a lack of sustenance. withered musculature too weak
> to respond to the fly that rests on the cornea. too dazed from fever
> to swallow water. knowing only the visceral pains of deprivation.
>
> imagine the reality of your average american. who is outraged that
> his bigmac had too much lettuce, and pissed that he didn't get what
> he wanted for christmas. this person's largest concern is how he
> looks, what he wears, and what he does. this person is ambivalent to
> the state of the world and likewise apathetic to all but himself and
> his concerns. his life is empty because it is composed souly of him,
> and the pursuit of things for him. i asked a guy i know (he claims to
> be a devout christian) what he thought heaven was ( mind you this
> person is not stupid and above average intelligence) his reply
> was "in heaven you get all the stuff you wanted, you can have
> anything as a rewaard for being a good christian" my reply was "you
> have got be kidding me"
>
> i know not the mind of every man, but i am disturbed by the overall
> lack of caring, lack of thought, and lack of meaning that is promoted
> by western society. we have become a social machine based on
> production, solicitation, and purchase. bereft of truth we languish
> in the primordial magma of ignorance.
>
> my dilemma:
> how do you fix this problem
> how do you prompt self-thought
> how do you convince people to turn of the goddamn tv and think about
> something other than themselves
> how do you inspire contemplation all things
>
> answer:
> you can't
> look at what happened to jesus
> look what happened to socrates
> look what happened to every ****ing martyr that had something good to
> say and inspired people.
>
> conclusion:
> most people throughout history would rather languish in a
> materialistic slave-style pursuit of nothing. most people would
> prefer to maintain the status quo. most people would rather be told
> what to do. most people would rather be safe than be free.
>
> none is more enslaved than he who mistakenly beleives himself to be
> free. - goethe
>
> free the slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
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Jeremy Weiland

01-04-2001, 07:10 PM

matthew:
if you're into this whole new way of life, of preparing for ascension,
of working out your issues, and of helping to lighten the planet's
vibration, then the *worst* thing you can do is worry about what other
people think...
as ra says, in any given situation, you have the choice to be of service
or to withdraw. if you cannot be of service without depressing yourself,
simply withdraw. don't bring up all the metaphysical topics, or divert the
conversation to another topic. i make a very concerted effort at work not
to bring up these topics, not because i'm afraid of what my co-workers
think, but because it's unneccessary. when someone needs this information,
they will find it. if you are the one to give them this information, the
circumstances will convene so elegantly that you won't be able to doubt for
a minute what your service should be. but don't feel like you have to
explain this whole world view, physics, spirituality to everyone who has a
passing, fleeting curiosity. instead, let your actions speak for this new
way of life; it's harder to accomplish, but it will impress your co-workers
much more than the most educated rant on hyperdimensional physics or
something along those lines.
as far as your personal outlook, just know, whenever you happen to think
about it, that everything is happening for the best. confusion is part of
the experience of 3d earth, and so is loneliness, but it is not your nature,
and your only reason for being here is to overcome these things in order to
serve better. when you start seeing these problems as challenges rather
than unresolvable dillemnas, life takes on a sense of purpose that may
surprise you.
hope everyone had a great new year!
take care,
jeremy

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from: matthew <amstelland420@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=0lzrnzzxwsmankmn6vbycsgzvagune_flq5xen sp-nhwkaq17bnwxn9qpmnt2amdy7sxi69pea2xfzoa1oarow)>
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date: wednesday, december 27, 2000 4:14 pm
subject: [asc2k] apathy

> once again i log on to spill my drivel. the phenomena that
>pervades my mind is apathy. bottom line is...most people don't give a
>****. lately i have been pondering over physics, of the
>hyperdimensional sort, and as a result of my mental over-indulgence,
>i have taken my hobbie to work. during slow hours i ponder over the
>possibilities that present themselves within aetheirc, or string
>theory type (spin) physics. i'm casually interuppted by the
>inquisitive," what in the hell are you doing?" i respond with," i'm
>trying to unravel the mobius strip of reality, and find god within
>myself." i receive with mirth the statement of," your ****in crazy."
>this string of words echoes within my skull for quite some
>time....your ****in crazy.
>i am.
>why?
>cause i give a ****.
>
>cause i contain within me a hunger that supercedes the need for food.
>i want to know. i have to know. perhaps i never left the "why" stage
>of a four year old. perhaps my shoes were two sizes too small. but i
>care about what is really going on. and in my quest to interest
>people in how much there is to learn, and how vastly perfect the
>universe is in design and quanta, i have been thwarted. by none other
>than the subjective wall of perspective.
>
>it is true that we create our own reality. we are responsible (for
>the most part) for our own happiness. and how is this?
>reality is completely subjective! my reality is golden, i have
>managed to think myself out of negativity, i have managed to wrest
>(for the most part) control of my emotions and behavior. i have
>discovered the key to happiness. but i have been lucky.
>
>imagine the reality of a starving child. a child disheveled and
>tortured through a lack of sustenance. withered musculature too weak
>to respond to the fly that rests on the cornea. too dazed from fever
>to swallow water. knowing only the visceral pains of deprivation.
>
>imagine the reality of your average american. who is outraged that
>his bigmac had too much lettuce, and pissed that he didn't get what
>he wanted for christmas. this person's largest concern is how he
>looks, what he wears, and what he does. this person is ambivalent to
>the state of the world and likewise apathetic to all but himself and
>his concerns. his life is empty because it is composed souly of him,
>and the pursuit of things for him. i asked a guy i know (he claims to
>be a devout christian) what he thought heaven was ( mind you this
>person is not stupid and above average intelligence) his reply
>was "in heaven you get all the stuff you wanted, you can have
>anything as a rewaard for being a good christian" my reply was "you
>have got be kidding me"
>
>i know not the mind of every man, but i am disturbed by the overall
>lack of caring, lack of thought, and lack of meaning that is promoted
>by western society. we have become a social machine based on
>production, solicitation, and purchase. bereft of truth we languish
>in the primordial magma of ignorance.
>
>my dilemma:
>how do you fix this problem
>how do you prompt self-thought
>how do you convince people to turn of the goddamn tv and think about
>something other than themselves
>how do you inspire contemplation all things
>
>answer:
>you can't
>look at what happened to jesus
>look what happened to socrates
>look what happened to every ****ing martyr that had something good to
>say and inspired people.
>
>conclusion:
>most people throughout history would rather languish in a
>materialistic slave-style pursuit of nothing. most people would
>prefer to maintain the status quo. most people would rather be told
>what to do. most people would rather be safe than be free.
>
>none is more enslaved than he who mistakenly beleives himself to be
>free. - goethe
>
>free the slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
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