The "rational" mind/rantings of a conspiracy theorist

[infinitelybanta]

Hello all,

Allow this post to be my re-entry/entry into the group. I was a member
of the group about a year ago until an incident occured (if anyone
remembers an individual named Malai... I was the one who took "his
side" in the disagreement), at which point I left the group. Now,
being a year older and wiser, I'm coming to see that perhaps I was
seeing evils in the shadows where none existed. Allow me to explain a
bit further why I believe that was.

I got into all of this Law of One/spirituality "stuff" (not to sell
any of it short by calling it "stuff"!) while on my search for the
"truth." Now, at the beginning of the quest, I considered the "truth"
to be a much more tangible thing... something that I could actually
write down on a sheet of paper and show to others, to free them from
their bondage, so to speak. Certainly, there is no lack of tangible
evidence that the general public is being lied to with some
consistency in the mass media and if you combine that with a variety
of childhood factors, one can develop a mindset of "Oh my! The world
is damned and I must save it! I must carry this burden and trust no one!"

That's why what my "rational" mind can sometimes perceive the quest
for transcedence/ascension/inner tranquality as another way of people
burying their heads in the sand or more nefariously, a conspiracy of
some "powers that be" to get others to tune out the travesties being
commited on the planet. Of course, that's a very simplistic way of
looking at things and if there's one thing that I have some certainty
of is that seeing the world in black and white isn't the best course
of action. And although I have had multiple experiences which have
shown me the natural divinity of existence, I feel a part of me
demands nothing less than Ra manifesting himself in 3D form and
slapping me in the face.

What I ask then is whether any others in this group have had similiar
experiences and how they learned to deal with the ego's desire for
control when it manifests itself in such a tricky way. In the coming
days, I will continue to search through the archives of this forum and
perhaps I will find that this issue has already been addressed, but
until then, I felt I had to relate my story because recently it's been
becoming all too clear to me that I cannot continue my habit of seeing
conspiracies where there aren't any.

I thank you all for your time and for your posts that you made over a
year ago which served to eventually bring me back here.

With love,
Terry

[congahead2000]

Good for you for making a few ahahs! The dance with the ego is an
important part of living in this here earthly dimension. To recoginze
when the ego is giving you the push, and when your intuition/spirit is
doing the talking, is a process that gets ever refined. And the Ego
self hates to loose control and finds subtler and trickier methods of
trying to throw you from the quest. It is our primary catalist.
I am a constant lurker here ( from the begining) and VERY
occasionally post, but this is a topic I am quite familiar with. Been
thrown and had to dust myself off (ahem) a few times..
Good luck to ya!
Rob

[Howard Batie]

Terry --

And what if there really are conspiracies "out there"? Look for the love and
light in the situation. Perhaps just believing that there is the possibility
of a conspiracy brings one closer to the point of having to make a choice --
what are you going to DO about it? Are you going to wring your hands in fear
and weep for humanity, or are you going to thank that perceived conspiracy for
helping you choose to move away from fear, power, and control by "others"? It
appears you've made your choice!

Just a thought....

In light and love,

Howard

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Subject: [asc2k] The "rational" mind/rantings of a conspiracy theorist


Hello all,

Allow this post to be my re-entry/entry into the group. I was a member
of the group about a year ago until an incident occured (if anyone
remembers an individual named Malai... I was the one who took "his
side" in the disagreement), at which point I left the group. Now,
being a year older and wiser, I'm coming to see that perhaps I was
seeing evils in the shadows where none existed. Allow me to explain a
bit further why I believe that was.

I got into all of this Law of One/spirituality "stuff" (not to sell
any of it short by calling it "stuff"!) while on my search for the
"truth." Now, at the beginning of the quest, I considered the "truth"
to be a much more tangible thing... something that I could actually
write down on a sheet of paper and show to others, to free them from
their bondage, so to speak. Certainly, there is no lack of tangible
evidence that the general public is being lied to with some
consistency in the mass media and if you combine that with a variety
of childhood factors, one can develop a mindset of "Oh my! The world
is damned and I must save it! I must carry this burden and trust no one!"

That's why what my "rational" mind can sometimes perceive the quest
for transcedence/ascension/inner tranquality as another way of people
burying their heads in the sand or more nefariously, a conspiracy of
some "powers that be" to get others to tune out the travesties being
commited on the planet. Of course, that's a very simplistic way of
looking at things and if there's one thing that I have some certainty
of is that seeing the world in black and white isn't the best course
of action. And although I have had multiple experiences which have
shown me the natural divinity of existence, I feel a part of me
demands nothing less than Ra manifesting himself in 3D form and
slapping me in the face.

What I ask then is whether any others in this group have had similiar
experiences and how they learned to deal with the ego's desire for
control when it manifests itself in such a tricky way. In the coming
days, I will continue to search through the archives of this forum and
perhaps I will find that this issue has already been addressed, but
until then, I felt I had to relate my story because recently it's been
becoming all too clear to me that I cannot continue my habit of seeing
conspiracies where there aren't any.

I thank you all for your time and for your posts that you made over a
year ago which served to eventually bring me back here.

With love,
Terry








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[j_stubler]

--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=8wRqFm-R_ix0pqr4UwjWgCD4GSt5Eke6DUrtzpeb5UZeqO7sjD6lWMEQ2 9qzTs0rNianBNX4Nz-nMFveexc), "infinitelybanta" <infinitelybanta@...>
wrote:
>
>We all get smarter and wiser as we go .... welcome along on the
journey ...

[infinitelybanta]

--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=X1ijyiP6tdBr5wncunLee5yV7O-t9MUVYb--1geHe9WSTiwlOr729HzAmZG_y2uBurBcAEHRamoz_xTYIiaeqA ), "Howard Batie" <hbatie@...> wrote:
>
> Terry --
>
> And what if there really are conspiracies "out there"? Look for the
love and light in the situation. Perhaps just believing that there
is the possibility of a conspiracy brings one closer to the point of
having to make a choice -- what are you going to DO about it? Are you
going to wring your hands in fear and weep for humanity, or are you
going to thank that perceived conspiracy for helping you choose to
move away from fear, power, and control by "others"? It appears
you've made your choice!
>
> Just a thought....
>
> In light and love,
>
> Howard
>

This is a revelation that I had somewhat recently. Even if a belief in
the power of light and good conquering evil is promoted by an evil
"powers that be" so others don't do anything to improve the world,
ultimately, is it going to change the fact that fundementally I DO
believe in the light? No. The funny part is, I spent a great deal of
time fretting over this when the answer was always right there inside
of me, not to get too cliche. But then again, I suppose that's why
some of the sayings that we have are lasting...

I thank you all for your comments. Before I conclude this post, I have
a question that's been on my mind since reading through some of the
posts here, none from anything recent per se, but I felt replying to
an old thread wouldn't be the best course of action. Now, I admit that
my question is of somewhat a frivolous nature and certainly there
isn't anything close to an definite answer, but I am curious: Ra
stated at several points in the Law of One that the goal of third
density (and now I'm paraphrasing) is to decide whether you are to be
of service to others or service to self. Now at several points in this
forum and within Ra's own words, it is noted that excessive service to
others can be detrimental, because in that case, you are forgetting
about an aspect of One, which is yourself. The question that I have
is, despite the fact that a person might be lacking in these
categories and not having perfect balance, will this prevent one from
ascending at the proper time? I know that Ra says that all that is
required is 51% in the direction of others, but it seems to me that
putting a percentage on it like that is somewhat general and could
mean a lot of things. I guess more specifically what I'm asking is, if
someone is trying to incorporate the lessons of love and wisdom, which
are of the forth and fifth density, while in the third, is this
acceptable? Or even possible? Is it that although the goal of the
third density is to polarize, it doesn't hurt one to get started on
the higher density lessons? Or is that a great deal of people who are
TOO STO are Wanderers from a higher density, simply trying to reclaim
what their Higher Selves know as reality?

Wow, that was longer than I expected it to be. Once again, I reiterate
that the question(s) is(are) somewhat arbitrary, but I am only trying
to learn.

With love,
Terry

[Tobey Wheelock]

Sorry that this is belated. I posted it from the wrong address
originally.

TW


> I guess more specifically what I'm asking is, if someone is trying to
> incorporate the lessons of love and wisdom, which are of the forth and
> fifth density, while in the third, is this acceptable? Or even
> possible?


IMO, yes, it's acceptable, possible, and even recommended. In their
synopsis of their healing curriculum (session 4), Ra said that "[t]he
second part has to do with the disciplines of the body complexes. In
the streamings reaching your planet at this time, these understandings
and disciplines have to do with the balance between love and wisdom in
the use of the body in its natural functions."

So they specifically recommend balancing love and wisdom in the use of
the body. Similarly, they repeatedly urged Carla to balance love and
wisdom in the scheduling of the sessions.

L/L,
Tobey W.