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Light Eye
04-21-2006, 01:07 PM
Dear Friends,

As with the last article I posted from the Sedonajournal there's no link to
this channeling so I'm posting the whole thing. Sorry about the length. This one
is from Carla & Jim.

Be Well, Be Love.

David

The Subconscious and the Conscious Minds
Q'uo through Carla and Jim

April 2006 SEDONA Journal of EMERGENCE - http://www.sedonajournal.com

The question this afternoon has to do with coordination between the
feminine portion of our minds, the subconscious, and the male
portion of our minds, the conscious. How can this interaction
produce a symbiotic relationship and create a wholeness of
experience, a wholeness of being, so that we are inspired to move in
the direction that is most appropriate? How can we gain a clearer,
more stable access to that subconscious, feminine portion of our
minds? How can we learn to appreciate this process? What exactly
occurs in this process when the inspiration is given from the
subconscious to the conscious? Where does it come from? How is the
subconscious aligned with our overall pattern of learning and
serving that allows this process to occur? How can we, as we
appreciate our own subconscious mind and ability to transform
ourselves, become examples or teachers or facilitators to others who
may come to us seeking this kind of assistance?

Q'uo through Carla

Iam Q'uo. Greetings in the love and in the light of the one infinite
Creator. How blessed it is to be with you at this circle of seeking.
We offer each of you blessing and thanks, for by calling us to
respond to your query, you offer us employment in the service of the
one infinite Creator. This is our dearest desire and our chosen mode
of learning, for as we teach, we learn; as we serve, we are given
service by your beautiful hopes, ideals and single-hearted desires.
You cannot imagine how manyfold are the blessings we receive, the
learning we receive as we do what is called teaching. We share
opinion, not truth, and would not do any the disservice of asking
for the status of authority. Please discriminate among our opinions,
choosing those thoughts that seem useful and discarding the
remainder. This we would appreciate.

EXAMINING "MALE" AND "FEMALE" AS SEXUAL TERMS

As we look for an entry into the wide question asked this day, we
find that we first would wish to examine the terms "male"
and "female" as sexual terms, for these terms create a kind of
stumbling block to grasping more thoroughly the actual goal of
seeking for the wisdom within. Each, as you sit in this circle, is
biologically male or female. The selfconsciousness concerning this
is at a minimum, yet there is within each some distortion concerning
the relative excellence of the body, which carries sexuality, and
the mind, emotions and spirit, which are given masculine and
feminine characteristics, seemingly somewhat separated from the
consideration of biological sexuality. To lift the stigma of
physicality from sexuality would be a well-conceived effort. The
sexuality of the physical vehicle expresses very well, very
beautifully and sacramentally, the dynamics that are seen in the
mental, emotional and spiritual journey. Because of the vulgar use
of bodies by their owners and by those who would possess bodies, the
body is seen as beautiful in its sexuality or innocent of sin, if
you would use such a word, yet this sexuality has much to study in
its possibilities in this incarnation pattern.

To many cultures, the eroticism of hidden genitalia and physical
forms in general is considered a positive beauty, a pure truth, and
were each biological male and female to value the body
sacramentally, it would become clear that human physical sexuality
is an information resource that, like any other, speaks of the love
and the light of the one infinite Creator. Therefore, as one turns
to face the mystery of the deep mind, there is a close resource?the
seeker's own sexuality. As each seeker moves along the highway of
the Father's mystery seeking love and truth, it is well to encourage
the self to love and accept the self, beginning with the physical
body?its sexuality and its every curve, dimple and seemingly marred
place or imperfect place. Loving the self within the skin is far
more readily attempted when one has loved and accepted the skin, the
shell of physicality that carries about the consciousness which you
truly are and which manifests within this illusion your field of
consciousness, desires, questions and often cryptic answers.

SEEKING THAT WHICH IS ARCHETYPICALLY FEMALE

To this end, let us pause and let each feel the heavy, familiar
physical vehicle. This is that which has given itself that you may
think and feel and express your free will and your choices in this
life experience. Feel the breathing, the limbs resting, the muscles
as they are supported. You may perhaps feel as if you are driving a
car all of a sudden. This is a feeling we would like for you to
experience. You are not your body, but your body is a second-density
form. Every cell of this body vibrates with the love and the light
of the infinite One. Take this moment to thank this beautiful animal
form for the sacrifice of its instinctually lived life; that life
you have tipped upon the ear, and that life is not possible. This
body of yours is living your life and dying your death.

Very well, if we have been able to encourage feelings of acceptance
and respect and love for the gallant body, then it is time to move
on to the seeking of that within that seems archetypically female.
Within each culture, the male and female dance a somewhat different
courting dance, play somewhat differing roles. It is not well to
generalize and we hope to be accurate, but insofar as one can be
general, the male feels that it has chosen a female. The female
waits for the choosing. When one applies this to the seeking of the
intuitive wisdom of the subconscious, one may focus upon the male
portion, which chooses to reach for the chosen one, the pearl among
all other and less entities, the very most nearly perfect of all
possible choices. It is with this lover's delight in the right
choice that the conscious mind reaches for the lovely, gentle and
very powerful subconscious.

The subconscious is coy, hidden and not always immediately
responsive. The first feminine characteristic of the conscious
mind's learning, therefore, is patience. There is the reaching but
not the immediate grasping; not the rapid, obvious success but the
long, patient, tender courtship of these qualities within, which are
lighter, freer and wiser than conscious, plodding thought. How
difficult it is to be patient; how weary one is of the waiting! At
this point, the second feminine quality is evoked by need?that is,
the faith that patience is deserved and appropriate. Faith is a
fruit of the wisdom within the spiritual self of the deep mind, yet
it cannot be reached except by faith.

THE FERTILE ASPECT OF TRUTH

Thusly?and we are generalizing?as the male portion of the self, as
the conscious mind reaches for the unconscious, intuitive heart's
wisdom, it uses faith, that which it believes it does not yet have.
Yet the very reaching for this perfect bride of wisdom evokes that
principle, and faith is found and persistence is able to be
sustained. In the journey of the seeker, there are times or periods
when the spirit within seems to burst into bloom and flowers appear
in the conscious mind, the blossoms that are daughters of the
patience, the faith and the waiting. The farmer cannot say how the
seed germinates and grows, nor can the seeker say how inspiration
has come, yet the farmer knows to collect seeds of the appropriate
type when it is planting season, and so the intelligence of the
conscious mind chooses its seeds in the fastidiousness of its
courtly, loving and patient approach to the fertile subconscious.

Let us use a sexual image to further focus upon the fertile aspect
of the spirit of truth. The desire of the conscious mind for truth,
for information about how to love the Creator, how to know the
Creator, how to serve the Creator, may be further and further
purified as seeking proceeds. The questions do not change, but the
process of seeking the answers can be more and more refined so that
the lover of truth has ever more abilities to penetrate in a gentle
yet fruitful way the recesses of the unconscious. The reaching
becomes very single-pointed, very courtly and very passionate, and
the fruitful wisdom within is made into a living being of new
concept. Something is born, something that as a unit may rise
through dreams, through daydreams or, for those whose thresholds of
consciousness are permeable, simply through the limen of the
conscious mind. The desire truly impregnates intuition.

YOU ARE CREATING YOUR OWN INFORMATION

There may perhaps be a figure that may explicate this feeling. The
guide or teacher has been seen in your spiritual studies often as
angelic, wise, without a body or with a lightbody, but certainly as
that which comes down from the higher planes to touch the hearts of
seekers. See that consciousness within which is the spirit of truth,
the unconscious, as that which is touched by fire, that which
becomes the fire, so that as the seekers seek within themselves,
they are aware that that which they seek within is a miniature,
holographic representation of that highest truth that is the
infinite Creator, the intelligent infinity who, moving through
ethers and ethers, dimensions and dimensions, stays true to Its
spirit as octaves stay true to their tone, so that the subconscious
or unconscious is in a fruitfully thought-of way the Creator, the
Highest Self. And this Creator may create, and you as cocreator may
cocreate and invent and manifest so that as you seek within, the
unconscious organizes itself according to the gentle, loving
courtliness it has received from the conscious mind and becomes
attuned toward wishing to give the outer, or conscious, portion of
itself more information so that the way in which you approach wisdom
creates the precise kind of information you shall receive. You are
creating your own information, because you are the Spirit you seek.

"SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND"

Now, the other portion of this figure is that when information has
been reached for lovingly, received with respect and molded to the
self's person or spirit or character, it may then have a strength
that is not simply your own but contains higher octaves of spiritual
wisdom, so that as you are able to manifest the blossoms and fruits
of the subconscious. These retain a quality of infinity and are able
to refresh and renew not simply the self but other selves as well?
and this without tiring in any way the conscious self.

The more the conscious mind becomes impatient for knowledge, the
more knowledge will recede from the spiritual seeker. The
instructions are to desire greatly the wisdom of the heart, yet one
is not rewarded for translating great desire into eager and
impatient great desire. In this kind of desiring, we ask each to
consider the value of feeling the beauty and purity of the desire,
appreciating it in and of itself, seeing its virtue and knowing that
no matter how long it may seem that the search goes on before
results occur, this desire, this stance, this way of being is in
itself a witness to a life lived in the heart. For is it not a value
of the heart to wait patiently upon wisdom, knowing that it cannot
come at an appointed time but must always surprise the seeker? Dwell
peacefully with the desire without taking away the intensity;
peacefully and intently await the impregnation of the heart by your
desire. "Seek and ye shall find." These words of your holy book are
true. The time factor is not mentioned.

HELPING OTHERS WITH THEIR SEEKING

A portion of your query looked into how to aid others concerning the
seeking and learning of and from the unconscious portion or deeper
portion of the mind. In this regard, it is well to reflect upon the
entities who have aided the self. Perhaps within there was the need
for reassurance, but insofar as the teacher took responsibility for
your learning, just so did the teacher vitiate the progress made by
creating a false dependency, so when one gives counsel and is able
to act as an effective catalyst for deep learning, the overwhelming
response of the client or patient is gratitude and the giving of
credit away from the self to the catalyst.

The way in which this dynamic is handled by the teacher is
potentially quite helpful and potentially quite disempowering. To
empower the student, the client, the patient, one may do one of two
things: Firstly, one may smile and say nothing. The lack of feedback
will be a catalyst for the student to work through the realization
that a blank wall cannot be given credit. The other and perhaps
seemingly more humane method of dealing with this situation is to
explain the action of the self with the self when it strikes a
catalyst. The catalyst remains unchanged; the work and the reward
are both those of the reagent, in this case the mind and portions
thereof of the student.

In either case, only so much can be affected by any means of
communication. Entities who wish to be dependent will simply choose
to be dependent. In those situations, it is well to know the self
and to protect the self as if from a biting insect. The repellent is
thought, a simple thought that catalysts are only that; that
responsibility cannot be taken; that much as one would like
sometimes to have an effect upon others, one's work is always with
the self. Dwelling in this realization, giving thanks for it and
praising the infinite One for the harmony and resonance of this
aspect of the Creator's universe seats one in this fluid thought,
marinates one in the precious well of selfknowledge. The limits are
here, and here this is peacefully affirmed and known, and like balm
upon the skin that insects will choose not to taste, so do the
hungry dependencies of students find themselves unable to fasten
upon you.

In the world of metaphysics, thoughts are your tools. We began with
the sexuality of the third-density physical body because the process
of spiritual evolution is sexual without the stigma attached to that
word among your peoples. The wisdom of the heart is not touched but
absorbed, and it does not move in a linear fashion to inform; it is
born and its DNA is coded by the purity, patience and lovingness of
your desire.

We realize we have barely scratched the surface of this interesting
query, yet the instrument requests that we move on. We would leave
some portion of this working for queries.

However, this instrument is somewhat fatigued, and we would prefer
to transfer the contact to the one known as Jim. We thank this
instrument and leave her in love and light. We are known to you as
the principle Q'uo.

Q'uo through Jim

Iam Q'uo, and I greet each again in love and in light through this
instrument. At this time, we would ask if there might be any other
queries to which we may speak. Is there a query at this time?

(Q): I have a query. I am curious as to the nature of restlessness?
restlessness and always constantly finding boredom in things and the
different work that I do. I do something for a while and become
bored and must move on to something else, and I do that for a while,
and there never seems to be anything that I am settled in for very
long. Is there something that I can do to become more rested and
settled?

(Q'uo): I am Q'uo, and I am aware of your query, my sister. As we
look upon the characteristics of any seeker's life pattern, we see
that there are those who are understood in some degree and not
understood in other ways. Each entity, as it journeys upon the path
of seeking the truth, will find that there is a pattern that
develops that will inevitably create the web of information and
service opportunities that was desired before the incarnation began.
Thus we are cautious in attempting to give information that would
infringe upon this process, in that there would be the loss of
opportunity if certain characteristics were altered. However, as we
look upon the query you have offered to us, we may comment by
suggesting that within the personality structure that you have
adopted for this incarnation, there is the need to gather a great
deal of information in a variety of fields so that there is a
resource available to you upon a very deep level of your own being
that will allow you to create a mythology, shall we say, that is
various, that is full and that is of a balanced nature so that you
are able to express feeling tones and emotions and desires in a way
that is satisfying.

We can suggest that if you feel that this quality that you have
described as restlessness is playing a detrimental part in your
overall process of growth, examine your desires to move from one
endeavor to another very carefully within the meditative state and
picture that which is your current experience as fully as is
possible. See this experience from a point of view that looks at
relationships of self to others, self to concepts, self to the
environment about you, and begin to see this experience as one
portion or piece of a larger puzzle. Look at those areas that have
been enriched by it, look at the possibilities that depend on it and
then look at that feeling that has grown within yourself that you
describe as boredom and follow that feeling as if it were a trail,
exploring each turn and tangent that is touched as you explore it so
that you come to a more complete understanding of its origin, its
process and its consequences.

Thus, as you accomplish this meditative examination, you may inform
yourself as to the step that you are taking and become aware of its
significance upon a level that is more fully informed than would be
possible if you merely moved upon the impulse with a more cursory
kind of examination. Is there a further query, my sister?

(Q): No, thank you very much.

(Q'uo): I am Q'uo, and we thank you, my sister. Is there another
query?

SEEING THE FLIP SIDE OF THE COIN

(Q): Is there a principle here to look at? Is it probable that each
time we think we have a fault or that something is inconvenient to
us, if we follow it through, we see that it's one side of the coin,
the other side of which is our greatest opportunity?

(Q'uo): I am Q'uo, and we are aware of your query, my sister. In
general, this is correct. It is easy within your illusion to see
feelings and experiences as separate from the overall journey that
is being made. So there is the possibility that one portion of value
may be discarded as irrelevant when, in fact, it has a close
connection to the primary program for the incarnation if more
carefully examined. Thus, each portion of the experience presents
the opportunity for discovery of the self and of the great Self from
whom we all come and to whom we all return. Is there a further
query, my sister?

(Q): No, thank you very much.

(Q'uo): I am Q'uo, and we thank you once again, my sister. Is there
another query?

(Q): How does one find lessons for the self in frustrations
encountered during the seeking?

(Q'uo): I am Q'uo, and I am aware of your query, my brother. The
lessons that are before you, oftentimes as they are becoming
apparent, are in large part hidden so that what is necessary is the
continued application of attention and effort by the seeker upon
that which is the source of frustration, for there is within each
frustration a trigger point or place of beginning that is the key to
unraveling more of the nature of the experience that is before you.
If you can look?and again we suggest the meditative state for this
looking?at the experience that provides the frustration and look at
that experience objectively so that it is but experience and see the
frustration that comes to you as that which you have created and
which is not inherently contained within the experience, then it is
more likely that you will see the point at which frustration becomes
the experience for you.

FOLLOWING THE TRAIL

This examination will provide you the means, once again, of
following a trail. The trail begins at the point when frustration is
noted. Look at the series of events, the relationships, the entities
involved in each of the portions of the experience before you. Look
at them not only in the practical and mundane sense of everyday
activities, but look at them also as symbols of higher principles
that are at work within your incarnation pattern. The more carefully
you have observed patterns of all kinds within your incarnation, the
more easily you will be able to connect the relationships of these
patterns to the nature of the lessons that are yours to learn and
the services that are yours to offer within your incarnation.

The point of frustration is as a sticking point, shall we say, at
which time there is more that is not understood than there is that
is understood. If you can explore what qualities within yourself
have brought about the response of frustration in relationship to
the experience before you, you will have informed yourself of the
basic relationship that can yield more understanding not only of the
experience but of yourself as well. If you can, shall we say, cross-
reference the various causes of this frustration, you may begin to
see themes repeating in your pattern of experience, and as these
themes repeat, you may discover that there is a certain quality
within your character or personality that you are developing, and
that the feeling of frustration is a kind of friction that wears
away those lesser qualities, those that are no longer useful to you.
And this provides you with a more polished surface so that you may
see yourself more clearly. Thus, frustration can be an indicator
that there is an opportunity to expand one's concept of self, of
service and of learning within any particular experience. Is there a
further query, my brother?

(Q): No, thank you very much.

(Q'uo): I am Q'uo, and as we have exhausted the queries, we would
take this opportunity to thank each of those offering queries and
each present for inviting us to join your circle of seeking on this
afternoon. We are most honored to do so and feel a great joy of
walking with you upon your journeys. We feel a great affinity for
seekers such as are gathered here this afternoon, for the desire
that is evident to know the nature of your paths and the desire to
be of service as you travel them are most inspiring for us to
observe, for we know that the path that each of you travels during
an incarnation in this illusion is a path that is filled with
mystery, is a path that is filled with difficulty and is a path that
has much confusion. For most of the qualities of the one Creator
that we all seek have been covered quite carefully by the nature of
your illusion so that those lessons and services that you are able
to discern are far, far more valuable than would be lessons and
services within an illusion that was less heavy, less dense and less
filled with mystery. Your challenges are great, yet we see that your
desire is greater, and we commend each of you for your stout-
heartedness, your good will and your cheer upon this difficult
journey.

At this time, we shall take our leave of this instrument and this
group. We are known to you as those of Q'uo, and we leave each of
you, as always, in the love and in the light of the one infinite
Creator. Adonai, my friends, adonai.







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

* Zia
04-23-2006, 11:19 AM
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<universal_heartbeat2012@...> wrote:

Dear Friends,

As with the last article I posted from the Sedonajournal there's
no link to this channeling so I'm posting the whole thing. Sorry
about the length. This one is from Carla & Jim.

Be Well, Be Love.

David

The Subconscious and the Conscious Minds
Q'uo through Carla and Jim

April 2006 SEDONA Journal of EMERGENCE - http://www.sedonajournal.com


HI David, thank you for posting this. Imagine my 'surprise' and delight in
finding this posted once I had processed/understood the issue of teaching,
the responsibilities taken, and the 'value of self' that is tied up in
receiving from a teacher that creates a dependency upon the teacher! This
cannot be highlighted enough, for those of us that see ourselves as
teachers, and what the 'underlying' need/belief/fear is inherent within
that!

Our love and trust of God, that is unseen IS the value of ourSELF. Yet this
is sooo rejected in the outer world unless an other has begun to experience
God and gained that value of SELF. Yet the moment we 'share' that SELF, we
often experience ridicule, scorn and exile, everything that can be perceived
within the life of Jesus the Christ. For my self personally, my 'teacher'
was the ONLY one that valued my SELF, and I became dependent upon that
teacher, for the value of Self. That seen and corrected was a profound
release. Upon completed documentation, there was the Q'uo transcript.

Recognizing our fear of ridicule, fear of scorn, and fear of exile, and
often choosing 'self-exile' from life because of rejection, and happily
finding within God TOTAL ACCEPTANCE and such brilliance and love and... well
it just goes on and on.... and NOT being able to reconcile that with the
outer... is a tremendous challenge. And sadly if we have received
rejection, ridicule, at some level when we forget our Self and will respond
in kind, particularly to our Self!

INDEPENDENCE comes with the knowledge that ONLY when an other awakens to who
and what they really are, and dissolves the fearful dreamed belief system,
will RECOGNITION, ACCEPTANCE, and VALUE to our SELF from the outer occur.
What Q'uo has put forward here is sooo close to what I came to understand
from the Knowingness God unfolded within during the lead up to Easter :) and
I see this as most valuable knowledge to be applied through creating the
experience to gain our own wisdom that over-rides the past conditioned
fears. "From Q'uo":


"HELPING OTHERS WITH THEIR SEEKING

A portion of your query looked into how to aid others concerning the
seeking and learning of and from the unconscious portion or deeper
portion of the mind. In this regard, it is well to reflect upon the
entities who have aided the self. Perhaps within there was the need
for reassurance, but insofar as the teacher took responsibility for
your learning, just so did the teacher vitiate the progress made by
creating a false dependency, so when one gives counsel and is able
to act as an effective catalyst for deep learning, the overwhelming
response of the client or patient is gratitude and the giving of
credit away from the self to the catalyst."

****Taking responsibility for another's learning is a dead weight to the
mind. Questioning WHY one would want others dependent upon themself is very
important... hmm self important :)

"The way in which this dynamic is handled by the teacher is
potentially quite helpful and potentially quite disempowering. To
empower the student, the client, the patient, one may do one of two
things: Firstly, one may smile and say nothing. The lack of feedback
will be a catalyst for the student to work through the realization
that a blank wall cannot be given credit. The other and perhaps
seemingly more humane method of dealing with this situation is to
explain the action of the self with the self when it strikes a
catalyst. The catalyst remains unchanged; the work and the reward
are both those of the reagent, in this case the mind and portions
thereof of the student."

****This is the brilliance of teachers that are NOT HERE physically, for
they can walk away so to speak, and the student is left to reflect on the
knowledge given, and apply accordingly. When we are present in a physical
body, this USE of 'catalyst' that the knowledge IS, has nothing to do really
with the teacher, except for the teacher's own personal experiences that
gave them the wisdom from which they share knowledge, and that knowledge is
GIVEN as a GIFT... do what you will with it! The teacher is not responsible
for another's USE of information!

"In either case, only so much can be affected by any means of
communication. Entities who wish to be dependent will simply choose
to be dependent. In those situations, it is well to know the self
and to protect the self as if from a biting insect. The repellent is
thought, a simple thought that catalysts are only that; that
responsibility cannot be taken; that much as one would like
sometimes to have an effect upon others, one's work is always with
the self. Dwelling in this realization, giving thanks for it and
praising the infinite One for the harmony and resonance of this
aspect of the Creator's universe seats one in this fluid thought,
marinates one in the precious well of selfknowledge. The limits are
here, and here this is peacefully affirmed and known, and like balm
upon the skin that insects will choose not to taste, so do the
hungry dependencies of students find themselves unable to fasten
upon you."

****Ahhh what an amazing reflection on our 'yellow jackets' stories, the
biting insects letting us know when we have become DEPENDENT on someone else
for the value of SELF!!!! By healing my body I was applying the knowledge
and not dependent on someone else healing my body!

Ahhh the recognition that we cannot have an effect upon someone else... they
create their own effects from the knowledge and gain their own personal
wisdom from the created experience! What a beautiful relief. Thus perhaps
the word 'teacher' and 'learn' is ultimately that we must 'each' develop our
own inner 'ear'. In so doing we will create those experiences from which we
will know.... and that is wisdom... IS! Thus can I make someone else angry?
good? anything???? No, it is always their individual choice over what is
potentially received by them? And do we have a choice to receive???? of
course!

If we look at our school teachers, that graded us, in a sense they were
determining a value of us. (We ultimately decided that the grades were the
value of self, yet the teachers certainly enforced that those grades would
determine your future value in the working world!) No wonder, later in
life, when we feel under-valued or devalued by those around us in life, we
search out a teacher, performing, and hoping for good grades :) the value
of ourself! And that we have laid this value system upon God, and thus fear
God and a potential good/bad grade, a judgment from God! and denial/fear of
God is born....

Ahhh the beauty of Q'uo talking in my language of word pictures 'like balm
upon the skin that insects will choose not to taste, so do the hungry
dependencies of students find themselves unable to fasten upon you." Ahhh
the higher frequency of KNOWING you simply and wisely depend on the Creator
God that you are.... that is Love... not a neediness in fear.... a whole
energy that no insect would partake of!!!! The healing/deflecting 'balm of
love' :) Interesting to me because I had some time ago, withdrawn from
writing, and also in my personal work to quite a degree (self-exile) not
wanting to encourage such dependencies in others!!!! Thank you Q'uo for
such a picture-full and creative feast of confirmation and release :) Zia