Dream Visions in Action

[saturnova_2012]

Peace! my brothers and sisters-
This is my first post and I'm grateful that this group has come
together to share yourselves with others, and with me. It seems that
this group has a Vision, a version of evolution in the universe that
allows me/us to see clearly what my/our purpose is here: to
perpetuate LOVE. And I'd like to humbly thank David and Ra for
removing the veil from my spirit, and allowing me to see Me and the
ways that I could be.

David: I respect your mission to create a movie, to spread the
message, and to highlight its importance in "everyday" life. This is
no doubt an important mission and I question not your intentions,
but rather the resulting Vision?
Once the message is out, what are We supposed to do with it? We
certainly cannot continue living in apathy, can we? We need a path
so we don't lose the Vision...

But I am Lost now brothers and sisters. I lost my path when my
spirit was enlightened by Ra's insight, and so going to college and
getting "that job" has not become my path, for I know that my
purpose is to be of service to others- to help others see these
things that you now see, by reading these pages. And I ask YOU, are
YOU too not Lost in this world of turbulence and violence? What is
OUR Vision? Where is Our path?
I read some of your dreams and was very interested in the message
that was presented. It seems that some people were charged with the
position of bringing people together (for whatever reason) and so
you did, without even being certain WHY you were in such a hurry to
do so. It seems like you wanted to help, and not just yourself but
everyone- beacause we are all one and the same and we need help!!
I feel like this is my Path and I want to Help! Although I am not
sure how to begin, I know that NO other begining in my life is as
important as this mission is to me. So today I am sending out an
SOS, because if I feel Lost- Maybe you do too. And maybe it is not
my path to travel alone. It can be Our path, and We can gather
people in Love and in Light and focus on Joy instead of money, and
loving instead of bombing.
I have read many theories on the date 2012, some Hopeful some....not
so much. Regardless of whether or not the "world will end," times
are changing and I hope you can feel it. But we still have 6 years
to do SOMETHING! I was just wondering with all of these fantastic
ideas that you are seeking for yourself, do you also not seek
somthing greater?
I ask, what is your Dream Vision? What can we do to help our planet
and our people during these times of change? There is something more
that just knowing that there is another way, it is living another
way everyday.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE FEEL THE WAY THAT I FEEL ABOUT
BEING OF SERVICE TO OTHERS? Are you ready?

Peace! and don't lose the vision
Tanji (pronounced Tan-Gee) :)

[MeSk8rdude@...]

Wow Tanji, what you said really resonated with me and brought up a bit of
emotion. I am going to be turning 21 on June 23. Since the age of 18 I have had
a life changing journey that keeps on intensifying every single day. I am on
that same quest as you are, as we all are, to find my soul's purpose. But
what I have come to find is that I am doing my part by just talking, by
speaking
of the truth, by sharing my knowledge with anyone who wants that taste of
spirituality and connection with the universe. I feel the urge to just "BE" is
getting stronger every day. To have this wisdom, the revelations (literally
meaning the removal of the veil), the emotions, and the passion for raising
awareness is absolutely amazing and by just making changes in yourself you will
soon see people around you begin to change. So just share the light with
others. "There are two ways of spreading light in the world: Being the candle
or
the mirror that reflects it." :)

In the Light and Love,

Jacob


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[Valarie Vousden]

Tanji, you have put into words what has been going around in my brain without a
name. I am still relatively new here and with nothing of the scientific or
research background of some here that I admire and learn from. I am only a
humble reader for whom the stated concepts ring true. But I have wondered what
we can do. What can I do on my own, in my own time...well, I use meditation time
to send out Love and Joy to those I love as well as to the Earth's grid in
general hoping that it will mesh with good intentions sent out by others (and I
know they are there). And I try more and more in decisions to ask, "What
decision would be of greatest Service to Others?" When I see damage, injury,
pain and suffering I send Love and Joy to it's victims. Most times this is in
the form of thought or blessing, sometimes it is a physical action. This has
been my little way of bringing this knowledge into my everyday life.

But beyond this, I, too, am at a loss as to what to do with this great
knowlege. Proselytising isn't my thing, living by example would suit me better.
Though to physically get out there and DO something would be gratifying, I
admit. And with the apathy we see all around us, even in the direst of
situations, I completely understand your passion in moving this forward.

So, to your query of who else out there feels as you do...I am one, also.

Peace and thanks for your words,
Valarie


saturnova_2012 <saturnova_2012@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=hMOXCV4mXZN1q0cQa6tV1yhAHrtDi5C4Z7kFmc q5PsnOJJG5v9sFWs_Qx3qIjGvlvXYZk3vNhyiKscc3VzKpBQ)> wrote:
.... I was just wondering with all of these fantastic ideas that you are
seeking for yourself, do you also not seek something greater? I ask, what is
your Dream Vision? What can we do to help our planet and our people during these
times of change? There is something more that just knowing that there is another
way, it is living another way everyday.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE FEEL THE WAY THAT I FEEL ABOUT BEING OF
SERVICE TO OTHERS? Are you ready?

Peace! and don't lose the vision
Tanji (pronounced Tan-Gee) :)

[bluephoenix010]

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> "saturnova_2012" <saturnova_2012@...> wrote: But I am Lost now
brothers and sisters. I lost my path when my
> spirit was enlightened by Ra's insight, and so going to college and
> getting "that job" has not become my path, for I know that my
> purpose is to be of service to others- to help others see these
> things that you now see, by reading these pages.

Me: Exactly. I was in the middle of college and suddenly found myself
getting very upset that I was being lied to all the time. In biology
classes, my brain would just annoyingly remind me: Lie, lie, lie.
Every so often. I even figured out some of the specific things were
lies from other sources, after my inner voice had told me. Very
annoying. It feels like you are being closed in on. How can you study
psychology and not mention chakra's, or by studying 'statistical
data'. I didn't know why that was wrong at the time, but now I
realise that with different incarnations, the statistics change
completely. I had wanted to be a psychologist. Grrr. Didn't do too
well at college. After good grades before that.


> "saturnova_2012" <saturnova_2012@...> wrote: I ask, what is your
Dream Vision? What can we do to help our planet
> and our people during these times of change? There is something
more
> that just knowing that there is another way, it is living another
> way everyday.
> I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE FEEL THE WAY THAT I FEEL ABOUT
> BEING OF SERVICE TO OTHERS? Are you ready?

Me: I think we are guided in this way. It's quite ironic that sorting
out our own lives and emotions is the best way, in touch with spirit
etc.

Some ideas of the new world were in an old thread.

My vision/ the near future; is of my own perfect personality, as and
after I achieve some of the things I want to achieve, I simply spread
my happiness around. Be a thrillseeker, speak and do things with
passion and bring out the best in those around me, achieve in the
physical, creative and the spiritual. I will be able to heal people,
and will do great healings, spread enthusiasm and help people
understand certain things, which seem simple to me but that other
people apparently struggle with. E.g. integrity, (but only help
understand, passively)

Basically, I create my world so that I feel the emotions that I want
to feel, then I spread this to others. People will like my energies
from being around me, they do not feel judged in my presence and I
have a way of 'leading them' to interesting information, such as
divine cosmos, healing books etc. I'm already part of the way there.

I rephrase being of SERVICE TO OTHERS, into, making my own vibrations
higher, which translates into, doing cool things, being real healthy.
Feeling good about myself and others, (because I can't hate
something that is me, I love me. Lol)

[Elmer]

Tanji wrote:
What can we do to help our planet
and our people during these times of change? There is something more
that just knowing that there is another way, it is living another
way everyday.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE FEEL THE WAY THAT I FEEL ABOUT
BEING OF SERVICE TO OTHERS? Are you ready?


Elmer: Hey Tanji, and all other newcomers. I'm certainly not an old-hand
around here or nearly as schooled as some of the posters here, but this thread
reminds me so much of what I experienced, and most of us experience, when the
blinding flash of truth first pierces through the cloud of questions we've
struggled with our whole lives.

The immediate and natural reaction is "OMG - I could save the world if somehow
I could just tell everybody about this". That's true, a mass realization that we
are all one, that we are made from love, and that we literally form reality from
our thoughts could change the world. I discovered a couple things when I shot
out of the cannon and ricocheted around a while:

First, when I tried to tell the people that were closest to me I found that
mostly I got blank stares, shaking heads and rolling eyes, or in some cases
outright hostility. The truth is, even when presented with the secrets of the
universe most people's belief systems won't allow them to assimilate it, and
sometimes trying to force the issue does more harm than good because you may
alienate someone from this material who might have discovered it on their own.

Then I thought about selling all my worldly possessions, giving the money to
charity and joining the Peace Corps. But I realized that while this would
satisfy my growing spiritual urges, it would also place those people that I love
and that depend upon me in a serious hardship. No, I didn't tell my wife about
this plan :)

Interestingly, as I read more and more of David and Carla's work I found that
this issue was specifically asked about and addressed. Those of RA and Q'uo tell
us that this reaction to newfound enlightenment is common and perfectly normal.
They also tell us that right now, at this time, the absolute MOST important
thing you can do is work on your OWN spiritual growth. Become the change you
most want to see in the world. Spread enlightenement by living the example and
simply BE the best and highest version of who YOU are. This, more than anything
else is what will save the world now.

Personally, I found that as I meditated, studied, and tried my best to treat
everyone and every situation with love and acceptance I encountered people who
responded to me. I've found three people at the small office I work in who share
my beliefs and we now meet from time to time to discuss these ideas. One of them
had just discovered the Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce book and was amazed I knew
the material.

I don't want this to in any way dampen anybody's enthusiasm for creating
positive change in the world. I continue to look for opportunities to give to
charity, discuss ideas, get people thinking. For me though, I've found it works
best when I wait for them to show an interest, or for example, if I anonymously
mail a book to someone I know is hurting and can benefit from certain material.

In the end I realized that not only is it OK to get a good job and provide for
those around you, but done with love it's an excellent way of serving the
Creator.

Other thoughts?

With love,
Elmer



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[vmvanhs]

> Tanji wrote:
> What can we do to help our planet
> and our people during these times of change?
>
>
> Elmer said: treat everyone and every situation with love and acceptance >
I continue to look for opportunities to give to charity, discuss ideas, get
people
thinking. For me though, I've found it works best when I wait for them to show
an
interest,
> In the end I realized that not only is it OK to get a good job and provide
for those
around you, but done with love it's an excellent way of serving the Creator.
>
> Other thoughts?

vmvanhs says: Right on, Elmer! I'm also new to this group, but not new to
experiences in life that have taught me that helping others to "see" beyond
their
present "vision" is, for the most part, not possible. They have to make the
choice.
There is this thing called FREE WILL. I believe we ALL are connected to
God/All-There
-Is or whatever you want to call It - It doesn't care what you call It - in
ways that, for
the most part, we do not yet fully comprehend - and from that connection we have
FREE WILL, which is a sacred thing. Even though we are all ONE, in our present
condition (with egos) we think of ourselves as individuals and the Free Will
thing
seems to apply to each of us. Therefore it is not possible to force or even try
to
convince others that they should learn about what you have discovered; because
if
they are not ready to give up their current fear, anger, or whatever it is that
keeps
them in the "place" they are, they will only think you are nuts. Elmer says that
he
sometimes sends books to people anonymously, and that's about as close as one
can
come to trying to influence others if they are not ready. Forgiveness and
Unconditional Love is all each of us can offer to each other. And that means
accepting
everyone for "where" they are and "what" they are, as we all traverse this wheel
of
time. There is something I call "waking-up-enthusiasm" that propels one to want
to
share what we have learned with others and even more to convince them that they
should also learn this. Of course it gets far more involved than just that. Its
almost a
pre-requisite to beginning to wake up - this enthusiasm that makes us want to
change the world. Been there, done that!!! And now, while still working on
myself, I'm
also working on forgiveness of others for "where" they are and just loving them
regardless. And with that I send love to all who may read this.

[John Dekker]

saturnova_2012 wrote:

>
>I feel like this is my Path and I want to Help!
>
>
Yo Tanji,

Allow me to state a few principles that I learnt from Ra and David Wilcock:
To teach is to learn.
If you teach one, you teach all.
Free will is paramount.
Opportunities will come, sometimes in subtle and/or unexpected ways.
Don't become co-dependant about this; you can't save anyone.

John Dekker

[Ken Rozsahegyi]

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>
<If you teach one, you teach all.
Free will is paramount.
Opportunities will come, sometimes in subtle and/or unexpected ways.
Don't become co-dependant about this; you can't save anyone.>

Yes John!

It's been a while since I started college back in 1975, but the
feelings expressed on this topic resonate with my experience. (by
the way, I still feel like a college kid- don't let go of that
feeling of potential and excitement!).

I was introduced to the Cayce insights then, and keenly felt the
problem of reconciling my new understanding and openness with
traditions, and educational, religious, political and corporate
organizations and culture.

I came to the understanding that this world is the world of chaos
theory. Change does come out of the mix, but not under your direct
control, rather indirectly.

Somehow, someway, we are indeed connected to each other and other
things, so we are part of the mix by default. Be yourself, but be
your best self. That self becomes your contribution to the mix. You
don't have to force it. Those that do try to force it are actually
creating resistance.

Meeting your need to offer services to others can be fun. In
college, I joined the peer counseling helpline, became a residental
advisor in the dorm, spent a couple summers in volunteer programs.
Those were among my best times!

When you are taught in class, realize that western science &
thinking is a strict discipline based on outwardly observable and
measureable evidence. Not a bad thing in itself.

If your interest is metaphysics, comparative religion, psychology,
new age phenomenon, then take courses in that direction. It's all
about movement, learning, and fun.


Ken

[* Zia]

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saturnova_2012 wrote:

>
>I feel like this is my Path and I want to Help!
>
>
Yo Tanji,

Allow me to state a few principles that I learnt from Ra and David
Wilcock:
To teach is to learn.
If you teach one, you teach all.
Free will is paramount.
Opportunities will come, sometimes in subtle and/or unexpected ways.
Don't become co-dependant about this; you can't save anyone.

John Dekker

HI John :) Thank you for relaying very precisely the simple concepts RA
presents. I would simply add some further thoughts to this for your
consideration :)

Learn has 'ear' within it. What I 'hear within' and teach 'give-out' allows
the body (body-consciousness) to learn anew. The body's acceptance
(allowing) of the internal God 'knowingness' will naturally be given
outwardly, 'demonstrated' and I am observing it all. Who is the one I am
teaching then? Is it the body self? In that body's experience am I
demonstrating the truth of Spirit, God, the owner of the body?

Thus by creating experiences for the body, I am teaching/demonstrating my
presence, power and being to my Self while riding in a body. Other bodies
may witness the experiences of my body and consider that to be a teaching to
them; it is simply a demonstration, even if with words as well. Thus the
'one' I am teaching/demonstrating to is my Self, the All. To see my Self.
That is the purpose of Creation! God sees itSELF.

Loved this: 'Don't become co-dependant about this; you can't save anyone.'
:) Absolutely, there is no ONE to save :) God doesn't need to be saved,
just set free to be itSELF :) So perhaps another definition of STS and
STO would be in service to self, we hold the knowingness within; and in
service to 'other' self we give the knowingness out = demonstrate that
knowingness outwardly :) What any 'other' self chooses to do with that
'knowledge demonstrated' is totally up to them :) I am simply being mySELF.

The body can be and IS in service to the God Self riding within, that is the
greatest service there is, for the God within is 'naturally' in service to
ALL LIFE. Removing the past conditioned obstacles of fear that are riding
in the body, renders the body in service to all, the God Self, wearing the
body! God has TOTAL free WILL.

Finally the opportunities that come, are your creation, either prior to
picking up the body, or during the sojourn in the body. Because there is
such an obstacle course running, these opportunities seem to 'just appear'
and we do not connect our creating with the experiencing because of the slow
time lag from creation to manifestation (waiting for the fear to play out
and complete first) :) When the fear-based obstacle course is dissolved,
the thought and the experience, become ONE. Voila, it IS. Now the mind is
whole (unsplit by fear)... holy or Whole I.

Since we were ALL created by Creator God, unfolding unique individual
aspects each carrying the Mind of that Creator God, ALL is shared, because
we are STILL ONE united in Creator God :) Zia

[John Dekker]

Ken Rozsahegyi wrote:

> Meeting your need to offer services to others can be fun.


Hey Ken,

I agree with you entirely. Let me say that the principles I noted are the
very principles I have been working on myself. I'm into healing and I
wanted
to go out and heal everyone until I realised that the laws of karma and
free
will don't allow this foolishness. My advice to myself was to "Lighten up!"
If I think I can help, I offer ... and then I step back and pay a lot of
attention
to the response.

I work in a gas station and I make a point of "accepting" each customer
and "being there" for them. Its quite a contrast to my old introverted self
and I have a lot of fun with it.

John Dekker

May Peace prevail!