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mikedi5052
04-09-2006, 02:50 PM
Hi Group,
This is my first post after joining and a few weeks of just
listening. So go easy on this newbie.

I understand from the RA material that there are three posibilities
at ascension. 51% positives stay on the new 4th density earth. 95%
negatives go up to 4 density negative elsewhere and the rest go to a
new earth elesewhere to continue in 3rd density.
My question is what happens to 'advanced' 2nd density creatures like
my two Old English sheepdogs. One is more human than dog and I am
sure is ready to go up to 3 rd density. Will she go off to the new
planet? and start a new life as a human? My wife (of blonde North
European stock) had a powerfull detailded dream that our femail dog
would reincarnate as a little girl with big brown eyes to a very
poor eurasian type (light brown skin) family.
We are also Theosophists and CW Leadbeater stated that intelligent
animals with human traits could re-incarnate as humans next time
round.
Any one any ideas?
Love and Light to all

Mike
P.S. Any details of David's cropcircle trip to England (where we
live) in August? I would just love to chance to see / meet him if
at all possible.

bluephoenix010
04-10-2006, 01:12 PM
I do not know what criteria is needed before the 2nd densities move up
to 3rd density. But maybe the current second density beings haven't
discovered themselves enough to move anywhere, maybe they will be with
us as we develop.

A bit of a long shot I know, but in the bible's New Testament, it is
said that the "Lion will lie next to the lamb." Perhaps in a world
filled with love and compassion, these animals will not need to kill
each other anymore and can explore the parts of themselves such as
empathy and compassion in more detail etc.

In fact, it's not really a long shot, we know first density beings will
still be here, such as wind etc. I would personally find it quite
peaceful to be able to go into a forest and hug a non agressive lion,
or watch animal from being invisible.

Steve Nevraumont
04-10-2006, 03:50 PM
Hey Mike,

Welcome to the group! I am pretty new myself but I can tell you that everyone
so far is very warm and inviting.

I have wondered the same thing myself. I do not have enough knowledge to know
if 2nd (3rd density eligible) will relocate with those of 3rd density(now) who
will not graduate in order to continue learning.

I am also not sure if those who are 2nd density and are not eligible for
graduation will remain behind.

I suppose it would depend on the condition of Earth after the harvest. I guess
it will be dictated by just what will happen.Will life as we know it will be
possible here after the harvest or it will be business as usual? Although, my
gut tells me that your wife's dream is a good indication of what is in store for
your furry friends.

I look forward to hearing more on the topic.

Once again, welcome =)


mikedi5052 <mike.kempster7@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=JfLOFl7_bkVUH7qVDvOYlInwouC4VPA-z7k1V7RPcE1gthhuNfjjJGNLNEYgF21E_i8dOTlDSJpYY1Nj5y 0IMYMu)> wrote:
Hi Group,
This is my first post after joining and a few weeks of just
listening. So go easy on this newbie.

I understand from the RA material that there are three posibilities
at ascension. 51% positives stay on the new 4th density earth. 95%
negatives go up to 4 density negative elsewhere and the rest go to a
new earth elesewhere to continue in 3rd density.
My question is what happens to 'advanced' 2nd density creatures like
my two Old English sheepdogs.

Chris Hamilton
04-10-2006, 05:27 PM
From: "bluephoenix010" <1129@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=69F7KI4Vf8WZ6-X0VbErOj_Q9c5WbKXjyXJIE46rB9pkPQ3UQ1__3MMXYJ84y2Ml mXk7a8DDXPnshio)>

>I do not know what criteria is needed before the 2nd densities move up to
>3rd density. But maybe the current second density beings haven't
>discovered themselves enough to move anywhere, maybe they will be with us
>as we develop.

Hello Blue,

In the Law of One, session 13, Ra addresses this question:

Then how does the second density progress to the third?

I am Ra. The second density strives towards the third density which is the
density of self-consciousness or self-awareness. The striving takes place
through the higher second-density forms who are invested by third-density
beings with an identity to the extent that they become self-aware mind/body
complexes, thus becoming mind/body/spirit complexes and entering third
density, the first density of consciousness of spirit.
_______

So, what is being said here is that third density beings (humans) are the
ones teaching the second density as
they reach towards consciousness of spirit. I am sure most of us would agree
that ALL our pets are almost human :) Chris

Jan Mountcastle
04-10-2006, 07:26 PM
So, what is being said here is that third density beings (humans) are the
ones teaching the second density as
they reach towards consciousness of spirit. I am sure most of us would agree
that ALL our pets are almost human :) Chris

Jan writes:
Yes, they learn from us. We learn from them as well.
I have a turtle who really gives me great information.
I guess it is a learn/teach thing. They also keep me in the moment ,the here
and now.




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Kurt Franklyn
04-10-2006, 07:30 PM
let the key word be, love

give an animal love and u give them life beyond

Filip Van Droogenbroeck
04-11-2006, 04:21 AM
Hoi hoi,

Like Chris said humans have the potential to serve their pets so that
they achieve self awareness and by that gradute for 3d. yay party party.
2D beings achieve this "naturally" to without the help of human/people
earthlings with the bipedal vehicle(hahaha) but it takes a lot more
time without the help.
So according to the law of one they will start human life once they
achieved self awareness and go to another 3d planet after this one
goes 4d fully. Or they wait a few hundred years in the after lives so
they reincarnate here again once 3d is possible again here.

BTW theosofie is fun! We just did some interviews with theosophists
for a school work thing. They have a lot in common with the law of one
in my view. At least the lodge I visited.

Peace
Filip




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> Hi Group,

> My question is what happens to 'advanced' 2nd density creatures like
> my two Old English sheepdogs. One is more human than dog and I am
> sure is ready to go up to 3 rd density. Will she go off to the new
> planet? and start a new life as a human?
> We are also Theosophists and CW Leadbeater stated that intelligent
> animals with human traits could re-incarnate as humans next time
> round.
> Any one any ideas?
> Love and Light to all
>
> Mike
> P.S. Any details of David's cropcircle trip to England (where we
> live) in August? I would just love to chance to see / meet him if
> at all possible.
>