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nathaniel 4x vance
03-18-2006, 05:34 PM
dear valerie vousden,
i believe your question concerns what buddhists call nirvana, and it means as
you said the re-absorption and annihilation of an entity back into the creator
after perfection have been attained. i don?t know of any other religion of note,
which ascribe to such a belief. however, such a belief as this smacks of the
nonsensical, as it would mean that the creator have need of our souls us in a
most unusual way. i think nirvana can easily be dismissed as another of our 3rd
density distortions, which doesn?t merit much thought! elmer said that ?ra? said
that no matter what, we will eternally retain our unique identity no matter what
developmental level we attain, and, i most certainly agree with this and so do
most of the sources which i have come across. the seth material is just one if i
may mention it. also, concerning your question about whether ufos are from 3rd
and higher densities, again i agree with elmer and ?ra? that their answer is
correct by what i have read and believe. that
is, yes they can and do come from 3rd and higher densities. i would like to say
also that there are other forms of space travel which we 3rd density baby diaper
earthlings have little or no knowledge about!
lastly, i understand that 3rd density is where all of us as soul entities
first get our start or spark, and that 3rd density is relatively incomparable
with the other higher densities in terms of knowledge, wisdoms, or potential for
growth. this is why i said we are more or less still in our baby diapers! also,
i understand that 3rd density is more like a whistle stop when compared to the
other higher densities, and mostly in our density is to determine whether we
want to experience life further in a planetary community amongst either sto or
sts entities, and this will occur when we are promoted to the next 4th density.
maybe you or some other members may help or correct me here if i am wrong. i
have not gotten my ra book yet, so i can?t say what ra would say about this as
yet. i do plan to get my ra book next month!
salaam/thanks


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Strider
03-19-2006, 08:11 AM
nathaniel 4x vance <brotherali4x@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=lkcg9izh1q2rrr1brekr-0--iurhi9jr4w3gdrbqbj3e8i9nunxcjcvs3mvhol9hrj1whauj_7 dqeo8ngg)> wrote:i believe your
question concerns what buddhists call nirvana, and it means as you
said the re-absorption and annihilation of an entity back into the
creator after perfection have been attained. i don?t know of any
other religion of note, which ascribe to such a belief. however,
such a belief as this smacks of the nonsensical, as it would mean
that the creator have need of our souls us in a most unusual way. i
think nirvana can easily be dismissed as another of our 3rd density
distortions, which doesn?t merit much thought!


good morning!

here's what the ra materials have to say: "...in the cycle of
completion there exists only the present. we, ourselves, seek to
learn this understanding. at the seventh level or dimension, we
shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one wilth all,
thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing
in the all." (book i, session 16). that sounds, to me, like "re-
absorption and annihilation of an entity back into the creator after
perfection have been attained", or nirvana.

does this mean that the the creator has "need of our souls in a
most unusual way?" the answer, i think, is "absolutely!" the ra
materials state: "the intelligent infinity discerned a concept. this
concept was discerned to be freedom of will of awareness. this
concept was finity [as opposed to infinity]. this was the first and
primal paradox or distortion of the law of one. thus the one
intelligent infinity invested itself in an exploration of many-
ness." (book i, session 13.) elsewhere, the ra materials state: "the
nature of the vibratory patterns of your universe is dependent upon
the configurations placed upon the original material or light by the
focus of love using its intelligent energy to create a certain
pattern of illusions or densities in order to satisfy its own
intelligent estimate of a method of knowing itself." (book ii,
session 27). in other words, as i read this, the creator created the
illusions of "you" and "me" in order to fulfill its desire or "need"
to more fully know itself and its infinite potential. eventually,
when the illusions of "you" and "me" are no longer required, "you"
and "i" will remember ourselves as one self, all that ever was or
ever will be.

that, at least, is my take on it.

peace,
strider





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