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[Aaron Elder]

this is my first posting on this group. although i wish i could contribute
something to these discussions that have been occuring, i am unable to
because of my realitive newness to all subjects metaphysical. however i did
come across an interesting insight today. i had just recieved my limited
edition boxed set from tool called salival. on the music video dvd it had
the video aenema. i had seen this video before but because my recent
exposure to david's page and this group i am of the opinion now that the
video is full of references to the upcoming phase shift, ascension, whatever
u would like to call it. you can download the video for free from
toolshed.down.net . anyone who has seen this video please share their
thoughts with me on this. also i would like to make very clear that i am in
no way advertising for tool.

aaron
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[Aaron Elder]

small question from an inquizitive mind. i have read in many of david's
writings how he will interface with the higher realms, densities, through
meditation or trance correct? i believe i have also read several times that
these densities exist at a higher frequency state. but readings taken by eeg
indicate that in a state of meditation the brain oscillates at a lower
frequency. and the data i have seen indicates the closer to mastery of
meditation the person is, the lower the frequency they can cause their brain
to oscillate at. any comments on this anyone?

aaron
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[Aaron Elder]

gee this list sure is quiet. in reference to the earlier email from david
about the earthquakes wasn't there one in new york city too? i don't that
has ever happened before. there have been lots of tremors and small quakes
over here in okinawa, last week one hit in the early morning and made an
f-15 go off the end of the runway here at kadena ab. my astronomy professor
dr. bailey says that alot of geologists think mt. fuji near tokyo is about
to get active. on another note i have been having wierd dreams lately, i
don't remember much about a dream last night except that i was watching the
news and some russian was defecting to the us. he was pulling a russian flag
down off his vehicle which was very dune buggyish. y a dune buggy i don't
know. has anyone on this list had an out of body experience? i keep getting
strange pressure sensations in my head mainly, not uncomfortable, kind of
funny feeling and my sense of hearing kind of fades out to be replaced by a
high pitched whine, sometimes more and sometimes less.
aaron
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[Aaron Elder]

i think i achieved a weak reflex astral projection last night, while lying
somewhere between awake and asleep i projected, it was not really hard to
do, but the the memories are very hazy, not sure whether it was because it
was a weak projection or my brain has trouble fathoming what i saw. is there
anyone else on this list who would like to discuss this or projects also?
aaron
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[Aaron Elder]

just curious, how many of u have the new tool cd "lateralus", and what u
think of it if u have it. i think my 2 favorites on that cd are #9-lateralus
and #11-reflection. i know sgt peppr (sp?) expressed some interest in tool's
music on here and their ascendance themes, just curious if anyone else on
here shares those tastes.
aaron
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[Aaron Elder]

anyone been keeping up with the earthquakes? there have been like 4 in the
last month over 6 on the scale.
aaron
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[Aaron Elder]

well to start a new subject i had a dream the other night, and the music
that was playing in it was "us and them" by pink floyd. don't remember the
dream just the music i heard in it. cool huh. its weird cause i am not a big
floyd fan, i figure i would be more likely to hear a tool song, but i heard
a pink floyd song.
aaron

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richard and any others interested in the readings that i posted an excerpt
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awakening-healing site which is not yet finished. at the bottom of the
readings, the following link is provided to subscribe to the free mailings.
the readings also have links to many other sites which you may enjoy as well.
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[doomstars]

i haven't read everything yet, but i've read some of it so far.
thinking about ra, and the law of one, one question i comes to mind.
how does the devil or the antichrist fit into the picture? cause
reading stuff from nostradamus and such, like from
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/nostradamus/part1, it seems that there is a
son of the devil spirit, and since everything is basically one, how
does that work out? i'm not sure if i explained this correctly, but
i'm sure this what i've said is understandable.

[doomstars]

regarding http://ascension2000.com/ra-section4.htm

ra: yes, but the number is small. a few have penetrated the 8th level
(while in 3rd density).

question: what are some specific examples? (b1, 117)

ra: taras bulba, genghis khan and rasputin. they were aware, through
memory of atlantean understandings involving use of the various
centers of mind/body/spirit complex energy influx in attaining the
gateway to intelligent infinity. (b1, 118)


---------------------------------------------

regarding the above.
i find it incrediably ironic that the site
http://www.revelation13.net but more specifically
http://www.revelation13.net/russians.html metions of how they think
president putin of russia is supposively the 3rd anti-christ. being a
person to appear as an angel of light but is really evil. evil, being
in the sense discussed on asc2k of being negative polarity. now, it
says on the site the below. i apologize if this is a lot i am putting
in here, but i find this so ironic. if you agree with me, i'd
appreciate a reply of sorts confirming this, but hopefully not many
will reply as i'd personally in my opinion like to keep things not
being posted a whole lot so people have time to just read the
overview. i wish yahoo! would thread the results so more could be
posted without losing info in searching for replies as is.

-- note the similarity of "putin" to "rasputin", rasputin being the
strange prophet-healer who put the last russian czar's wife under his
spell, and therefore contributed to the public unrest that eventually
resulted in the fall of the russian monarchy and the communists
coming to power. rasputin could symbolically stand for "ra put in",
ra being the egyptian sun god who was thought by them to be the
creator of light and of the world, and who was represented by the
pharoah. note on this page below where i show how st. petersburg
where putin is from is directly north of the egyptian pyramids,
geographically, with a diamond shape formed. this could relate to
putin becoming a pharoah-like dictator of russia, and worshipped as a
deity there. remember, "satan comes as an angel of light". also, ra
was sometimes depicted as having the sun as his eye, this could
relate to putin being said to have very menacing eyes, similar to
hitler being able to hypnotize people with his strange eyes (in
hitler's case his eyes were almost white). also note that "peten"
(similar to putin) in hebrew means "cobra", and ra was depicted as
having a falcon head, with the sun disk and a cobra.

[doomstars]

the fact that ra has made a mistake in the past with the atlateans or
whatever. the fact that knowledge given was twisted. i'd would have
asked a question like the below and hope it would be correct.

if given the chance, you wouldn't have changed the past of all the
mistakes you may have done, correct?

[bCM :\]

to all.

it has been channeled many times of the reasons for whales and dolphins the
dolphins are the custodians of wisdom and the whales are the libraries of
knowledge. the dolphins have been waitng eons for us to reclaim our spirituality
and rejoin them in the woeld of peace and love. we are on the horizon and the
sun is rising we need merely to cross into the dimension awaiting us.

chris m
bcm
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[bCM :\]

i am new to this club. i can see already there are many searchers of truth out
there. david has a good grasp of things and should be read before asking about
that he covers. we all have the answers before we ask the questions, all that is
required is to acquire the answers through consciousness. a thing to consider is
the notion of prophesy, it is noticed that many refer back to past prophesies
and tend to put tremedous credence in those words. again remember all things can
be changed by our collective consciousness that can void any prior prophesy, and
change anything.

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[laureli4487]

the article i found here concerns the date range and the astronomy
associated with the end-date of the mayan calendar (and the projected
time of ascension.)

from http://www.alignment2012.com/truezone.htm/
the true alignment zone


when does the solstice-galaxy alignment occur most precisely?
can we really nail it down to a day?
these are important questions, and we must identify the parameters of
the alignment zone and the most important factors involved in the
alignment.
in my book the center of mayan time (february 1995), i discussed the
astronomical fact that the alignment of the sosltice meridian with
the galactic equator - the alignment the maya were trying to indicate
with their 2012 end-date - in fact occurs sometime between 1997 and
1999. this was an estimate based upon my careful analysis of sky
charts. later, information from an article by james roylance came to
my attention that calculated, using norton's 2000.0 star atlas, that
this "solstice-galaxy" alignment would be most precise between
february 1998 and november 1999. i published this estimate in my book
maya cosmogenesis 2012 (1998). as my book was going to press, an
article by daniel giamario pointed out that european astronomer jean
meeus calculated and puiblished in his book mathematical astronomy
morsels, the date of may 1998 for the alignment. later on in '98, i
was told that the nautical observatory calculated - with
overconfident precision in my opinion - october 27, 1998.
in thinking this through carefully, i feel that the parameters and
features involved in this question allow for at least a plus or minus
one year for even the most precise scientific calculation. more
generally, any calculation could easily be "off" by some five to ten
years. why? the precise calculation of the solstice galaxy alignment
is predicated upon identifying the precise location of the solstice
meridian and the galactic equator. of these two abstract locations,
the galactic equator is subject to variation depending on whether you
chose to identify with gravitational, visual, or electromagnetic
criteria. if the currently accepted astrophysical location for either
the solstice meridian or the galactic equator is inaccurate by as
little as 1/60th of a degree (1 minute of arc), the calculation of
the precession-caused alignment of the solstice meridian with the
galactice equator would be subject to a &#43;/- variable of five months.
and how big is 1/60th of a degree? well, the full moon is about 1/2 a
degree, or 30 minutes of arc in diameter. so, imagine slicing the
full moon into thirty parts - one of those parts is 1/60th of a
degree. it would seem reasonable that variations in the currently
accepted locations of either of the solstice meridian or the galactic
equatorcoulkd be at least this much. the other consideration involves
acknowledging that we are not dealing here with abstract lines and
meridians, we are dealing with astrophysical bodies that have size
and shape. when can we expect that the solstice meridian will have
effectively moved to "the other side" of the galactic equator? an
analogy we can use is the earth's equator. field effects in the
northern hemisphere compared to field effects in the southern
hemisphere include the directional rotation of hurricanes and
tornadoes, or more locally, water spinning down a drain. so, which
way does water spin down the drain when you are right on the equator?
and how far do you need to move north or south to get a definitive
directional spin? i suspect that there is an orb of ambiguity, or a
zone in which effects are at their peak. if we include the size of
the solstice sun (1/2 a degree wide) then, as i pointed out in my
book maya cosmogenesis 2012, the solstice sun will not have precessed
clear of the galactic equator until roughly a.d. 2018 (a.d. 2016 if
you want to get technical). perhaps the most important consider in
trying to identify the true "moment" of transformation comes from
straight social history. in mesoamerica, major socio-political
changes have always taken place very close to a period ending in the
indigenous calendar. the best example of this is the revolution that
culminated around 1820, leading to many countried in latin america
declaring their independence from the tyranny of spain. this period,
as dennis tedlock pointed out, was five calendar rounds after the
calendar round ending of 1554. around 1554, quiche maya leaders
decided that the end to "the world as they knew it" had come, and set
to recording the popol vuh. we might expect, for purely sociological
reasons, that 2012 will be a rally cry for repressed indigenous
people throughout the americas to revolt.

for historical reasons, i explained in a lecture given in denver on
december 13, 1998, that december 22 of 1998 might be called day one
of the next 26,000-year precessional cycle. and thus 1999 would be
year 1. however, i leave this debate to those who find it important.
perhaps the true transition will only be identifiable in hindsight.
maybe it's a function of how dense we are. maybe we will only be able
to speak about it in turns of a period of years.

recent information (june 1999):

the winter-solstice sun is closest to the galactic equator in 1998.
this presumably corresponds to the meeus/usno calculation. the
distance from the sun to the galactic centre at that time is 6.4396
degrees (measured in apparent place).

the winter-solstice sun has cleared the galactic equator by 2021.

the winter-solstice sun is closest to the galactic centre in 2219,
with a couple of years either side also candidates for this epoch
because of nutation. the distance to the galactic centre at the 2219
solstice is 5.6367 degrees, 0.8029 degrees closer than in 1998.

the winter-solstice sun and galactic center share the same apparent-
place meridian in 2225.

patrick wallace
starlink project manager
rutherford appleton laboratory
chilton, didcot, oxon ox11 0qx, uk

thank you patrick wallace for these calculations. this valuable
information fine-tunes the galactic alignment dynamic. the 2021
calculation i think is very important because the question of when
the shift "to the other side" might begin to actually be felt
(following the earth-equator metaphor described above) will be most
critical to understand, at least for those who plan on being alive
for the next forty or so years. clearly, the alignment window needs
to incorporate the entire process, including the solstice sun's
closest approach to the galactic center (in 2219). this is roughly
208 years, or two venus rounds, after 2012! and so long-range
prognosticators may look to the year 2220 for other
astronomical/astrological phenomenon.

another significant piece of information here is the difference in
distance between 1998 and 2219 - .8029 degrees. this is 1 and 2/3rds
sun diameters, fairly significant in terms of possible
intensification of effects as we move from 1998 toward 2219. looks
like we might have more time than we thought...
jmj 6-99

[retlaw144]

http://www.redmoonrising.com/maitreya.htm

interesting, is it not, how similar the proposed maitreya of benjamin
creme looks to osama bin laden.

osama bin laden, titled the king of terror (sponsored by the new
world order i might add).

maitreya
=
i am terah
=
i am terror

interesting don't you think.

creme reports that maitreya appeared in kenya and took up residence
in london.

funny, i could have sworn that osama bin laden was schooled in london
and has journeyed through much of the middle eastern and african
muslim countries.

the similarities become more and more astounding the further you look
into it.

how sad yet laughable, all these would-be light-workers fooled by
this network of satanism.

i would hate to be in their shoes when people find out just how
awefully they have been misled.

the so-called ascended masters popularized by madame blavatsky
through the theosophical society (whose disciples included adolph
hitler and anton levay {acolyte of aleister crowley and high priest
of the church of satan), are in fact the fallen masters of lucifer.

they are not the genuine christed host of 144,000.

[thedruid2012]

dear group,

after digesting david's last posting, went over to www.live365.com to
listen to some music, here's what was written on the playlist.

circular ruins - evening of inocence - n/a
james reynolds - mind's eye - the mind's eye
kevin keller trio - across the sky, part 2 - across the sky
remanence - 1st wave - apparitions
ryan farish - daydreamer - daydreamer

not working today - gonna take the day off - see where it leads.

welcome back karen :-) (hug)

love/longing,

mike.

[neochook]

a new group for users and prospective users of market analyst charting
software has been created. the reason this has been done is that the
"official" group is censored by ma management, as i found out today.
i believe this to be totally unsatisfactory. i believe this cavalier
attitude to their paying customers will not serve them well in the
long run and it definitely does not serve their customers. the new
group will be a venue where people can raise and share their concerns
and questions freely. i also welcome participation by ma management
and staff. i hope this will be for the benefit of all. the group will
also of course be a place to hear about the good things about ma!

the new group can be accessed at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marketanalyst

check it out. look forward to seeing you there. spread the word.


cheers,

henry rech.

[Light Eye]

dear friends,

from david;

don't be afraid of
the smackdown just because i called a few posts transient.

my question is then -

wasn't it thoth who was resposible for the building of the gp and many of the
other sacred sites?

just wondering...

with love and light and in service.

david

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[Robin Ramage]

hi group...

i know this is a little off topic and somewhat transient in the grand scheme of
things but i could do with some advice if possible, and don't know where else to
ask. i am considering getting my tongue pierced and possibly a tattoo... would
this affect my body/energy detrimentally in any way? also would piercings be
seen as a form of self mutilation or a form of expression/art in the higher
densities?

i really am clueless here and dont want to make the wrong decision so any
opinions would be greatly appreciated... thanks.

robin.


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[Missy O''Malley]

ha ha ha...kudos david!!!! perfectly responded to.

love & light...missy

> are there any other groups like this one that davd wilcock is on, or
> that he contributes to? i heard he went off line due to security
> reasons. is this true? is that why the web page hasnt been updated,
> or will it be shut down? his book will still be finished though
> right?

dw: oh, this is rich... you heard, eh? a top contender for the "most
paranoid email of 2003" award and we've only just begun... the spins of
humor i could take off on from this are so multi-varied as to make my
head
spin - if only someone would say something this wide-open when i'm doing
my
own lectures... however, most of it requires the exaggerated facial
expressions, pacing, delivery and crowd vibe of a live performance so i
won't bother to confuse people with fun-poking sarcasm on email, which
is
only a small percentage of the laugh-power behind it.

10pm on a friday night, eh? you probably had a more dynamic night than i
did... why don't you pass around whatever you've got for the others?
don't
bogart it, dude!

whups... i said i wasn't going to do any jokes. that's right, i'm not in
a
very funny mood as i'm duckin' bullets from the feds and tryin' to bribe
my
server to let me stay online... pray for me you moron! pray! o no, here
day
come! whadoo i do! hep me mama! gaaaahhhh%*(*%~!

*david wilcock is now in our custody. surrender now while you still have
the
chance. this email will self-destruct in thirty seconds.*



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[zhing311]

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=peu-gtqr1b1lwtughfzje_98hmidqqrdh62ko1kawx24l6zrn5qihs gbwfrmy8wswqw7a561uqeu2cc), "missy o'malley" <missyom@i...> wrote:
> ha ha ha...kudos david!!!! perfectly responded to.
>
> love & light...missy


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yes haha kudos!!!!!?? a perfect 10 david, youre number1!!........??
you too missy! perfect responce to a responce....kudos
???....???

????????????

[Razsmile@...]

hi,
my email address has changed to razsmile@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=2lqi6k0exfc2xzgnrkcv4-qzpazvxjfsjajethz0jsfago99do6c1tbi4xwmlis2psjmbghs-qde0k_fa-cpmdb4mdm).

regards,

paul:)


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[Sabine Roelofs]

hello everyone,

yesterday at college my teacher used the following quote to help illustrate his
story about how mankind used to look outward for answers (through for instance
religion) and are now starting to look inward. i thought it might be interesting
to share it with you. :)

"so what will their religion be like? their god will be radically
immanent...they will feel life as a stream of energies fountaining up within the
self...flowing out to form and reform the world of experience. they thus
experience, day by day, the divine life coursing through them, and the creation
of their world happening through their own activity... now when god returns into
human hearts, people get their own creativity back" (cupitt, 1995:130)

l/l

sabine

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[marijnclarie]

hi to everyone,
i just uploaded a document "still point physics" in the files
section. it is by dan winter. i think it fits in very well with
post 10937 by david wilcock. any comments would be greatly
appreciated. by the way, dw, post 10937 was fantastic!

next are 2 samples, first one from dan w, the other from david w
1.dan winter
what is "implosion"?
implosion means nothing but still point engaged in physical
transformation. physical space is but an inversion of the
equal "acceleration" path through the centre of the dimensional
donut. either "acceleration" is linear, and space is "warped", or
acceleration is warped, and space is linear:

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sincerely,
marijn

[fraterandros1]

hi all,

i am very happy to be with you today. i wonder if any of you can
help me? i have been doing nutritional research in the context of
the energetic, vibration nature of foods and their relation to the
ascension process for many years and have tried almost all possible
dietary programs there are, right across the spectrum.

what i'm hoping is that i could get some information on each of
your own experiences of what has worked for you in the past or
present. food in the nutrition biochemical sense is less important,
i'm concerned with its vibration nature, and using it to help boost
my vibration along with my other spiritual practices, or at least
avoiding food pulling my vibration down and dulling my mind etc. i
would love to hear your insights.

the other thing i wanted to ask you all about, is your meditation
practices, i am specifically focused on at this time the breathing
practices found through out the worlds traditions and their influence
on the human mind, particularly the induction of trance states, with
an emphasis on achieving samadhi. i would "love" to hear of what you
have found to be the most efficient and effective meditation method
you have come across,

personally i am aware of countless methods from all over the
world particularly indian and tibetan yogic methods, my reason for
asking is i am looking for anecdotal evidence of the effectiveness of
particular meditation practices. i have felt intuitively that there
is a method of moving very quickly into deep trance that is both very
simple and natural. so many techniques i feel are unnecessarily
complex. i very much look forward to any assistance any of you can
give me,

in the presence of the most high,

adam.

[Tony E. P.]

http://asia.reuters.com/newsarticle.jhtml?
type=sciencenews&storyid=3401200

soundless music shown to produce weird sensations
sun september 7, 2003 07:09 pm et
by patricia reaney
manchester, england (reuters) - mysteriously snuffed out candles,
weird sensations and shivers down the spine may not be due to the
presence of ghosts in haunted houses but to very low frequency sound
that is inaudible to humans.

[Tony E. P.]

scientists find mystery particle

by dr david whitehouse
bbc news online science editor

fermilab confirmed the discovery
scientists have found a sub-atomic particle they cannot explain using
current theories of energy and matter.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3277579.stm

[LAWNMAN]

saddam replaces jesus just in 'time'
saddam hussein has belatedly replaced jesus christ on the cover of
time magazine, resulting in more than a million copies of the latest
edition having to be reworked.

the cover with christ was going to be used to illustrate a feature on
the earliest biblical texts.

more than 30 per cent of time's four-million copies had already been
printed when managing editor jim kelly saw the news conference in
baghdad announcing saddam's capture.

he said the photo of the deposed iraq leader was so remarkable that
it had to be on the cover.

so the bearded figure of christ was replaced by a close up of a
bearded saddam with the paul bremer quote: "we got him".

[Tony P.]

(i hope i'm thinking straight, kind of tired. i hope this isn't
jumbled.)

cayce was born in 1877. wilcock was born in 1973. cayce predicted
something about a golden era starting in 1938 (but i believe hitler
went "insane" and changed that due his lack of unconditional love)
but that didn't happen. well, i take 1938-1877 and get 61. i take 61
and add it to 1973 and get 2034. 2034 is the mid-point between 2029
and 2039. and if you know d. cannon's nostradamus stuff, 2029 is
about a shift and 2039 is about a world government. (i believe the
dolores cannon nostradamus material is supported by the site too.)

[akashar3000]

hi everyone,

thanks for the responses to the article. for me i think the idea of
not taking money too seriously is good. i think we shouldn't give
our power over to it and that we shouldn't see it as some sort of
corrupting negative thing. its our own personal interaction with it
that determines the outcome and to view it positively and playfully,
rather than in a possessive way, is the key. just my evolving ideas
on it :-)

namaste,
story

[Gail Sherman]

who noticed the difference after the venus transit? more love abounding and
rebounding. i am a wide eyed child again! trusting and receiving with no
fear. no fear, no fear! i am speeding my way home bringing with me as many
as possible. mercy to all, peace to all, love to all! it is not given to me
to understand science or mathematics in depth but still the truth is given
to me! joy to all!



gail sherman





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[kimonokraken]

maybe i'm imagining it, who knows, but i think i know what you mean!
everything seems open and the things that don't matter are dropping
out of my head with greater frequency. which is all good. it's hard
to worry about things. i welcome whatever comes.

love and light,
graeme

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> who noticed the difference after the venus transit? more love
abounding and rebounding.

[Michael Papa]

hi i am new to the group.

while reading seth in chapter 6 on the ascension site there was a reference
and recommendation of the use of the monroe binaural beat brainwave
technology to help attain a deep meditative state and other altered states
(out of body). i found this free experimental engine and samples of tones
to aid in this based on centerpoint and monroe's techniques. here is the
link:

http://uazu.net/sbagen/

it is windows, linux and mac compatible.

there is a text documentation i suggest you read it first as it contains
links to pertinent information regarding the background and use of beat
brainwave technology to access higher plains of conciousness.

i used it twice so far and it is pretty dramatic to say the least. i was
able to attain deep meditative states (for me at least) both times and both
very different.

onward and upward

mike

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[Ron Adams]

mike:
i have been thinking of my friend david k., which i haven't spoken to
for a couple of years, and he has monroe's tapes.

i use to go over and visit him and he would let me use them.

they are fantastic.

i guess i must call him and see how he is doing, and borrow his tapes.

thanks for the reconnection with my wandering thoughts.

peace,
sunwolf
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> while reading seth in chapter 6 on the ascension site there was a
reference
> and recommendation of the use of the monroe binaural beat brainwave
> technology to help attain a deep meditative state and other altered
states
> (out of body). > there is a text documentation i suggest you read
it first as it contains
> links to pertinent information regarding the background and use of
beat
> brainwave technology to access higher plains of conciousness.
> mike
<snip>

[John Michael Roods]

some interesting notes abot the energy changes occurring.

some observations and reporting on unprecedendented "energy blasts striking
our planet..."
causing abnormal weather patterns....perhaps only identifiable to prehistory
events!!!!!
veriifies what we have read on ascension2000.


http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index601.htm
22 december 2004

www.globalresearch.ca
29 december 2004
the url of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/faa412a.html


peace
mike

as i do to others, i do to myself

[madonnafra]

for two days in a row i have received e-mails concerning the necessity of
laughing for good health. mikey brought this subject up and this is scientific
confirmation of the importance of this in our lives in these physical 4 layer
bio-suits ( a line from "what the bleep do we know").
http://www.mercola.com/2005/apr/2/laughter_health.htm
http://cholesterolmatters.msn.com/article.aspx?aid=25
love and blessings,
gayle
gs5555
texas wind


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[John Michael Roods]

david,

can i post your appearance here in sw florida on asc2k. there are probably
a number in the state that might be interested.

mike



as i do to others, i do to myself

[Chase747@...]

question 2. can someone clarify what the last sentence
means? (beginning with "in any case ..." and ending
with "... channel.") why "vulnerable"? is it because
the persona can be subconsciously influenced by
others' emotions around him/her and can get carried
over into waking life? the works of edgar cayce, if
my assumption is correct, were the results of contact
with his magical personality because he was an adept
as ra-ta?

thanks.

tanoyo

the sixth density personality has its own work to do as well.the channel is
left open when invoking the magical personality which in truth is the
"guardian angel", over seer, protector etc.

there fore leaving one open to attack since its guardian is not at its post
..

..this in terms of channeling in the trance state...as opposed to it being
a conscious channeling session..which is the preferred method of channeling
since it is more natural as if holding a conversation with the universe which
is your friend, or your inner/over self which is thyself quite naturally thy
friend in all that you do.

the cayce case went by way of subconscious to higher conscious,very
true.this is a natural way of communication to ones higher self, at times the
cayce
source would tap the universal mind, all dependant upon the requested
information.

and again in magical works the higher self has its part to play as we have
our part to play .and invoking it is for the time being to do what is to be
done and once done must be returned to its post so to speak cause it is the god
which you pray to.the adept understands this..

ln l

erik




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[gardendome1]

does anyone have a good source of information regarding post -
ascension life?im not actually worried, really,just curious and enjoy
speculation.last night i kept wondering abot my student loans - lol!do
they follow me?i recently read "planet two" and i havent decided
exactly how i feel about parts of it.did anyone else read that?

[Teresa Hunter]

can someone please post the link to the books on initiation? i am having a hard
time finding it.

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[bjorn_nitmou]

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/asc2k/files/mystery%20school%20texts/



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> can someone please post the link to the books on initiation? i am having a
hard time
finding it.
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[Mr Gary T.]

hi group,

i've recently been noticing the references to an entity called q'uo and would
appreciate it if someone would fill me in on precisely who/what that is.i'm
surmising that it's a social memory complex like ra and that it's the successor
in the communication line to ra. what exactly happened to ra? does anybody
know? ra said that it takes 75,000,000 years to become ripe for harvest in
their dimension so i'm assuming that they haven't graduated up to some even
higher level where communication with us becomes impossible; was it simply
decided that q'uo would now be a more appropriate teacher? if so, was any
reason given? has ra morphed into q'uo?

it has to be said that the languaging in q'uo's communications is much better
than ra's and whilst i am grateful that ra initiated the contact with carla,
don and jim that bequeathed this fascinating data to the human race, there's a
part of me that feels profoundly relieved that it appears to have been decided
on high that dissemination of the law of one will be better served if the
information is presented in a more fluent format that facilitates easy
comprehension!

on a disrelated matter i've been following the badinage between bill and gen
with entertainment; i agree with you bill that the 'meatbody' is fatuously
overrated in importance in our current civilisation. not only ra but also other
authoritative spiritual preceptors all agree in saying that the human being is
a tripartite entity consisting of body, mind and spirit, and that of these
three the body is by far and away the least important! this can be easily
verified experientially by anybody caring to try the experiment of making the
wellbeing of their spirit primary in their concerns and observing what tends to
happen when they do so. in practice it will be found that matters pertaining to
physical and mental wellbeing will spontaneously re-arrange themselves in a way
that serves more optimal - and happier - functioning.


man i love this group! keep posting y'all!

gary t.



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