dreams

[Matthew]

although this is completely irrelevant to anything posted on this
group,i'm going to post it anyway. it is a dream i had as a child,
that i have remembered with great clarity. in the dream i am inside a
space ring (it is a ship, but it is a giant ring) and i am looking
down at the earth. there is a war or some great massive destruction
going on, and it is very apparent. i am overwhelmingly sad and
distraught over this. it is almost as if i can feel the conflict and
the fire in my mind. thats it.

[SgtPppr]

now that is very strange. i used to have a dream so similar it's eerie.
in the dream, i remember standing in the living room watching a giant ring
surrounded by three little rings swooping around my backyard. i then
remember being in the ring looking down as my house burned and some kind
of war raged in the field behind my house. very strange indeed.

steve devries
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on wed, 20 dec 2000, matthew wrote:

> although this is completely irrelevant to anything posted on this
> group,i'm going to post it anyway. it is a dream i had as a child,
> that i have remembered with great clarity. in the dream i am inside a
> space ring (it is a ship, but it is a giant ring) and i am looking
> down at the earth. there is a war or some great massive destruction
> going on, and it is very apparent. i am overwhelmingly sad and
> distraught over this. it is almost as if i can feel the conflict and
> the fire in my mind. thats it.
>
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[Tiffani Boswell]

hi...i am in the dfw area....it did seem like no one else on the list was
from teh south :)

question for all

i hear david talk alot and mention his dream logs that he has been logging
for a long time....

my question is i have been writing my dreams down...what is the best way for
interpreting them...unfortunately my dreams are so confusing and weird (like
animals i have never seen and places i have never been colors, people
languages...etc..) i don't know where to start....

my husband has simple dreams...like if we are wondering about someone or
something...he dreams of them "all sitting at a round table and talking
about it" etc...so easy!

so any help would be appreciated

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sent: july 16, 2001 4:12 am
subject: re: [asc2k] to jeremy


> yes, i absolutely concur! hold the image of a washing machine in your
> mind, as it spins...the centrifugal force propels the clothing to the
> outside rim. this same process formed the outer crust and a hollow inner
> earth on this and all planets.
>
> admiral byrd made the journey...and if you read his journal and talk
> to his relative who gives presentations and has written material on the
> admiral's discoveries; you'll be quite impressed to find that he did
> in fact travel into the inner earth. and what is more, there were
thriving
> civilizations there to greet and meet him. the sea of tranquility, as
> it is called by the inhabitants there, extends from the ocean into the
> interior. the inhabitants are evolved sufficiently to masque the openings
> and have confounded naval vessels and other governmental craft who
attempted
> to gain entrance. they were not and have not yet been allowed to enter
> this domain.
>
> furthermore, i have personal knowledge of several of the entrances.
> my half brother was a pilot in the air force and was lost in the devil's
> triangle during one of those infamous storms. i have researched this
> subject thoroughly, because i keep meeting him out-of-body and i wanted
> to understand the phenomena. there are entrances/exits in various
locations,
> like the burmuda triangle, mt. shasta, certain mountain ranges, both
> north and southern polar regions and even in kentucky. the book,
etidorpha,
> describes the journey quite well. i have seen one of the little people,
> as the shoshoni indians call them in wyoming at a museum in casper when
> i was much younger. the mummified adult body, barely three feet in
height,
> was displayed for visitors. it had been found by a miner
underground...the
> male was sitting in the lotus position when he died. fascinating! this
> is given further credence with the legends of lepracauns and the stories
> of middle earth and the hobbits. the tall race, descended from our
off-planet
> ancestors, resembling the watusi often use the tunneling network and
> leave parrot feathers and other articles on separate continents in their
> travels. louis l'amour hinted at this carefully in one of his last books.
> he lived close to me in durango, colorado and this was common knowledge
> among the locals. during one expedition with my husband in this area,
> i actually put my hand on the rock that opened to one of the tunnels
> and passageways. since we didn't have supplies and our children were
> with a babysitter only for the afternoon, we decided not to continue
> to go inside - although i was tempted! that adventure awaits another
> day still to come...anyone interested?
>
> just as john suggests that the egyptians and atlations migrated
underground
> through the tunnels to dwell and survive the cataclysms, there is evidence
> and stories that abound describing this. ram talks about this in great
> detail. even the hopi talk of the coming fifth cleansing, when the people
> will go into the earth again as they have on the previous four occasions.
> and what makes this an even more enticing topic, is that many of our
> merkabah spacecraft inhabit this realm. they come and go freely. they
> often observe surface dwellers to see if we have evolved to the point
> of deserving contact and interaction...then they retreat when they see
> how we treat our fellow man in war and other human exploits. admiral
> byrd saw the flying craft and describes them in his journal. my half
> brother radioed a report during the storm that what they saw was
remarkable
> and that no one would believe them! i do!
>
> there's a lot more to this subject. the aurora borealis lights are
reflections
> of the smoky sun on the interior. the color of the skin of those who
> live there is coppery green from the mineralization of the food and water
> they consume. well, well, well...enough for tonight.
>
> i get carried away with this...it's one of my favorite discussions.
> have any of you looked carefully at the wingmakers/wingmasters?
>
> that will save for another day...
>
> --
> lynn ferguson
> meridianhealth@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=fusfcptft0ajupgkbul0qfxosxndfk44we9blt nlz5i4g_kha1r35hkzbynrgbktkueayzlaw6kq5rndpkdrcka)
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>
>
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[Jeremy Weiland]

i can definately sympathize with you on that aspect of dreams, tiffani.
it seems like my dreams are completely random and bizzarre, and have no
corelation to any sort of message, symbolic or direct. obviously there are
many levels you can interpret dreams at, but my only advice is to be as
consistent, persistent, and precise as possible when recording your dreams.
who knows - they may be telling you something you need to know in a few
years when you go back and look at your diary on a hunch.

as far as interpretation goes, david outlines an approach, and it was
posted to the list some time ago. it's message # 106 in the archives...
maybe this link will take you there:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asc2k/message/106

check it out - great basic info.

hope everyone's doing well.

later,

jeremy

p.s. it was my understanding that we have several people from texas on the
list. and, excuse me, but isn't va considered the "south"? ;-) we're
still fighting the civil war here in fredericksburg (or at least making
money off of it).

-----original message-----
from: tiffani boswell <tiffani@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=bom9l8chwb_g8lsvnoe7jpdbq9ccrwpvjec990 nwtvprxz-it8cuoxuzylxjhm9rs8znhe1jeheg2sl1)>
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date: wednesday, july 18, 2001 1:45 pm
subject: [asc2k] dreams


>hi...i am in the dfw area....it did seem like no one else on the list was
>from teh south :)
>
>question for all
>
>i hear david talk alot and mention his dream logs that he has been logging
>for a long time....
>
>my question is i have been writing my dreams down...what is the best way
for
>interpreting them...unfortunately my dreams are so confusing and weird
(like
>animals i have never seen and places i have never been colors, people
>languages...etc..) i don't know where to start....
>
>my husband has simple dreams...like if we are wondering about someone or
>something...he dreams of them "all sitting at a round table and talking
>about it" etc...so easy!
>
>so any help would be appreciated
>
>----- original message -----
>from: "lynn ferguson" <meridianhealth@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=f5ctyiylxw9whpqj_hqyqzjveb579ej3dj-3jyolgocka09jlouwpxbo8-kqt0hs_zfccofpn-t0gkel53eum7-sx8u)>
>to: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=ydu7e0p1mcggj7nlgvelxr4hczm6nlvsrr5ige dizoixr6ysmioasid9vplcgtxvtkrhsl6oui5xpva)>
>sent: july 16, 2001 4:12 am
>subject: re: [asc2k] to jeremy
>
>
>> yes, i absolutely concur! hold the image of a washing machine in your
>> mind, as it spins...the centrifugal force propels the clothing to the
>> outside rim. this same process formed the outer crust and a hollow inner
>> earth on this and all planets.
>>
>> admiral byrd made the journey...and if you read his journal and talk
>> to his relative who gives presentations and has written material on the
>> admiral's discoveries; you'll be quite impressed to find that he did
>> in fact travel into the inner earth. and what is more, there were
>thriving
>> civilizations there to greet and meet him. the sea of tranquility, as
>> it is called by the inhabitants there, extends from the ocean into the
>> interior. the inhabitants are evolved sufficiently to masque the
openings
>> and have confounded naval vessels and other governmental craft who
>attempted
>> to gain entrance. they were not and have not yet been allowed to enter
>> this domain.
>>
>> furthermore, i have personal knowledge of several of the entrances.
>> my half brother was a pilot in the air force and was lost in the devil's
>> triangle during one of those infamous storms. i have researched this
>> subject thoroughly, because i keep meeting him out-of-body and i wanted
>> to understand the phenomena. there are entrances/exits in various
>locations,
>> like the burmuda triangle, mt. shasta, certain mountain ranges, both
>> north and southern polar regions and even in kentucky. the book,
>etidorpha,
>> describes the journey quite well. i have seen one of the little people,
>> as the shoshoni indians call them in wyoming at a museum in casper when
>> i was much younger. the mummified adult body, barely three feet in
>height,
>> was displayed for visitors. it had been found by a miner
>underground...the
>> male was sitting in the lotus position when he died. fascinating! this
>> is given further credence with the legends of lepracauns and the stories
>> of middle earth and the hobbits. the tall race, descended from our
>off-planet
>> ancestors, resembling the watusi often use the tunneling network and
>> leave parrot feathers and other articles on separate continents in their
>> travels. louis l'amour hinted at this carefully in one of his last
books.
>> he lived close to me in durango, colorado and this was common knowledge
>> among the locals. during one expedition with my husband in this area,
>> i actually put my hand on the rock that opened to one of the tunnels
>> and passageways. since we didn't have supplies and our children were
>> with a babysitter only for the afternoon, we decided not to continue
>> to go inside - although i was tempted! that adventure awaits another
>> day still to come...anyone interested?
>>
>> just as john suggests that the egyptians and atlations migrated
>underground
>> through the tunnels to dwell and survive the cataclysms, there is
evidence
>> and stories that abound describing this. ram talks about this in great
>> detail. even the hopi talk of the coming fifth cleansing, when the
people
>> will go into the earth again as they have on the previous four occasions.
>> and what makes this an even more enticing topic, is that many of our
>> merkabah spacecraft inhabit this realm. they come and go freely. they
>> often observe surface dwellers to see if we have evolved to the point
>> of deserving contact and interaction...then they retreat when they see
>> how we treat our fellow man in war and other human exploits. admiral
>> byrd saw the flying craft and describes them in his journal. my half
>> brother radioed a report during the storm that what they saw was
>remarkable
>> and that no one would believe them! i do!
>>
>> there's a lot more to this subject. the aurora borealis lights are
>reflections
>> of the smoky sun on the interior. the color of the skin of those who
>> live there is coppery green from the mineralization of the food and water
>> they consume. well, well, well...enough for tonight.
>>
>> i get carried away with this...it's one of my favorite discussions.
>> have any of you looked carefully at the wingmakers/wingmasters?
>>
>> that will save for another day...
>>
>> --
>> lynn ferguson
>> meridianhealth@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=f5ctyiylxw9whpqj_hqyqzjveb579ej3dj-3jyolgocka09jlouwpxbo8-kqt0hs_zfccofpn-t0gkel53eum7-sx8u)
>>
>>
>>
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[Lynn Ferguson]

when i studied with dr. david foukes, one of the leading researchers
in sleep and dreams (psychologist) at the univ. of wyoming, we developed
several excellent methods to assist in creating a system for individuals
to make their own dream dictionary and journal.

rather than trying to take someone else's arbitrary interpretation of
a symbol or image or event; you write down your dreams as you would in
any journal, but you also have a section where you begin to take the
word images and symbols and write down associations and correlations
from your own life. then you keep referring back to the dream images
to find correlations and meaning that is specific to your own inner language.
it is highly introspective and the process continues for years, decades,
the rest of your life - but i can attest to its ultimate value, as my
dream language has expanded and offered many insights and useful information.


you can begin with universal symbols and their relative meaning that
you find to be your personal truth. take a red rose and a white rose
for instance. is the rose a symbol for love for you as it is for many
others? then you would determine if the red would be added to reflect
the dynamic passionate energy of love, which could be given a sexual
connotation or an active connotation. for me, a red rose is symbolic
of a particular spiritual master, because he has told me that his symbol
is the crimson rose and we'll often smell the fragrance of roses when
he is present. so for me, a red rose is very differenct than for the
average person. you have to decide for you what it's going to represent,
but let's say it's passionate love. whereas, a white rose could be given
the connotation of purity in love or unmanifested love for the lack of
color in its petals. you have to decide what it is going to represent
for you...and when you do, the very act of deciding allows your subconscious
mind to use those exact symbols to convey the message it wishes to communicate
through your dreams.

for instance, i had a systemic infection several years ago that was so
severe, it threatened my life and i was having a difficult time finding
what natural remedy would be effective against the infection after using
most everything in my arsenal of knowledge without success. i asked
spirit to bring me the knowledge of what substance would address the
infection and save my life. within days, i had an unusual dream and
found myself going into a beautiful room. in the middle of the room,
there was a throne and i intuitively knew i was supposed to sit in the
throne. as i was sitting on the throne, i noticed the wood that it was
carved from - it was made of rosewood. i awakened and considered my
dream and wrote it in my journal. since the type of wood had been important
and memorable in my dream, i researched rosewood. i found that rosewood
essential oil was used to effectively treat bacterial gram positive infections.
i had not studied rosewood before that, but i paid attention to my dream
image and the research in my waking state, and acquired some rosewood
essential oil. within two days, the infection began to clear and within
a week, i was out of the proverbial 'woods' as far as it being life-threatening.
it then completely cleared the infection...and i celebrated for being
humble enough to have listened intently to my subconscious mind, knowing
that it is indeed the mind of god with access to universal mind.

there are other methods as well, but creating your own dream dictionary
and inner language always appeals to me to be as the most favorable.




--
lynn ferguson
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[LO]

hi:
i have found the mary summer rain has the best
dream interpertation book on the market it has
always been very accurate it has 17,000 dream
symbols and i have found it very useful...
lm/lo
--- jeremy weiland <jweiland@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=jmtkiila0ee0bw2fm0ojm9vlbrwua1gj7mx-ft0hytvyhdueciv5fgncxqidrxiphcdplwmoh4jm3jg0c64)> wrote:
> i can definately sympathize with you on that
> aspect of dreams, tiffani.
> it seems like my dreams are completely random and
> bizzarre, and have no
> corelation to any sort of message, symbolic or
> direct. obviously there are
> many levels you can interpret dreams at, but my only
> advice is to be as
> consistent, persistent, and precise as possible when
> recording your dreams.
> who knows - they may be telling you something you
> need to know in a few
> years when you go back and look at your diary on a
> hunch.
>
> as far as interpretation goes, david outlines an
> approach, and it was
> posted to the list some time ago. it's message #
> 106 in the archives...
> maybe this link will take you there:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asc2k/message/106
>
> check it out - great basic info.
>
> hope everyone's doing well.
>
> later,
>
> jeremy
>
> p.s. it was my understanding that we have several
> people from texas on the
> list. and, excuse me, but isn't va considered the
> "south"? ;-) we're
> still fighting the civil war here in fredericksburg
> (or at least making
> money off of it).
>
> -----original message-----
> from: tiffani boswell <tiffani@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=3gjagu2tscpacla27pxpdxdmhdoyfcczqm5xfz _l92msip_lgnicic6l98gs1ylqua-8c51xnnczebptd1ri)>
> to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=qh4fcuquthmxa2a1or_k9uglkfran1rmacyrty s_egpfwcquienmmnjetvenu-ttfewhvttbhzlb6sbvig) <asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=qh4fcuquthmxa2a1or_k9uglkfran1rmacyrty s_egpfwcquienmmnjetvenu-ttfewhvttbhzlb6sbvig)>
> date: wednesday, july 18, 2001 1:45 pm
> subject: [asc2k] dreams
>
>
> >hi...i am in the dfw area....it did seem like no
> one else on the list was
> >from teh south :)
> >
> >question for all
> >
> >i hear david talk alot and mention his dream logs
> that he has been logging
> >for a long time....
> >
> >my question is i have been writing my dreams
> down...what is the best way
> for
> >interpreting them...unfortunately my dreams are so
> confusing and weird
> (like
> >animals i have never seen and places i have never
> been colors, people
> >languages...etc..) i don't know where to start....
> >
> >my husband has simple dreams...like if we are
> wondering about someone or
> >something...he dreams of them "all sitting at a
> round table and talking
> >about it" etc...so easy!
> >
> >so any help would be appreciated
> >
> >----- original message -----
> >from: "lynn ferguson" <meridianhealth@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=1cq67cpogooiwldef2fnticnv7qe3dr9hacisz vq2iissi8qsonya-8jiwubquyexgkmo425vxvkcoljph3p)>
> >to: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=qh4fcuquthmxa2a1or_k9uglkfran1rmacyrty s_egpfwcquienmmnjetvenu-ttfewhvttbhzlb6sbvig)>
> >sent: july 16, 2001 4:12 am
> >subject: re: [asc2k] to jeremy
> >
> >
> >> yes, i absolutely concur! hold the image of a
> washing machine in your
> >> mind, as it spins...the centrifugal force propels
> the clothing to the
> >> outside rim. this same process formed the outer
> crust and a hollow inner
> >> earth on this and all planets.
> >>
> >> admiral byrd made the journey...and if you read
> his journal and talk
> >> to his relative who gives presentations and has
> written material on the
> >> admiral's discoveries; you'll be quite impressed
> to find that he did
> >> in fact travel into the inner earth. and what is
> more, there were
> >thriving
> >> civilizations there to greet and meet him. the
> sea of tranquility, as
> >> it is called by the inhabitants there, extends
> from the ocean into the
> >> interior. the inhabitants are evolved
> sufficiently to masque the
> openings
> >> and have confounded naval vessels and other
> governmental craft who
> >attempted
> >> to gain entrance. they were not and have not yet
> been allowed to enter
> >> this domain.
> >>
> >> furthermore, i have personal knowledge of several
> of the entrances.
> >> my half brother was a pilot in the air force and
> was lost in the devil's
> >> triangle during one of those infamous storms. i
> have researched this
> >> subject thoroughly, because i keep meeting him
> out-of-body and i wanted
> >> to understand the phenomena. there are
> entrances/exits in various
> >locations,
> >> like the burmuda triangle, mt. shasta, certain
> mountain ranges, both
> >> north and southern polar regions and even in
> kentucky. the book,
> >etidorpha,
> >> describes the journey quite well. i have seen
> one of the little people,
> >> as the shoshoni indians call them in wyoming at a
> museum in casper when
> >> i was much younger. the mummified adult body,
> barely three feet in
> >height,
> >> was displayed for visitors. it had been found by
> a miner
> >underground...the
> >> male was sitting in the lotus position when he
> died. fascinating! this
> >> is given further credence with the legends of
> lepracauns and the stories
> >> of middle earth and the hobbits. the tall race,
> descended from our
> >off-planet
> >> ancestors, resembling the watusi often use the
> tunneling network and
> >> leave parrot feathers and other articles on
> separate continents in their
> >> travels. louis l'amour hinted at this carefully
> in one of his last
> books.
> >> he lived close to me in durango, colorado and
> this was common knowledge
> >> among the locals. during one expedition with my
> husband in this area,
> >> i actually put my hand on the rock that opened to
> one of the tunnels
> >> and passageways. since we didn't have supplies
> and our children were
> >> with a babysitter only for the afternoon, we
> decided not to continue
> >> to go inside - although i was tempted! that
> adventure awaits another
> >> day still to come...anyone interested?
> >>
> >> just as john suggests that the egyptians and
> atlations migrated
> >underground
> >> through the tunnels to dwell and survive the
> cataclysms, there is
> evidence
> >> and stories that abound describing this. ram
> talks about this in great
> >> detail. even the hopi talk of the coming fifth
> cleansing, when the
> people
> >> will go into the earth again as they have on the
> previous four occasions.
> >> and what makes this an even more enticing topic,
> is that many of our
> >> merkabah spacecraft inhabit this realm. they
> come and go freely. they
> >> often observe surface dwellers to see if we have
> evolved to the point
> >> of deserving contact and interaction...then they
> retreat when they see
> >> how we treat our fellow man in war and other
> human exploits. admiral
> >> byrd saw the flying craft and describes them in
> his journal. my half
> >> brother radioed a report during the storm that
> what they saw was
> >remarkable
> >> and that no one would believe them! i do!
> >>
> >> there's a lot more to this subject. the aurora
> borealis lights are
> >reflections
> >> of the smoky sun on the interior. the color of
> the skin of those who
>
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[LO]

hi:
i have found the mary summer rain has the best
dream interpertation book on the market it has
always been very accurate it has 17,000 dream
symbols and i have found it very useful...
lm/lo
--- jeremy weiland <jweiland@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=bnxb-_j62votoatepyei3wgu5olvhpbnrytderx7zltngeahlwuyhp6 eyr-5kfndwey1q7yr6u9c-ycsig)> wrote:
> i can definately sympathize with you on that
> aspect of dreams, tiffani.
> it seems like my dreams are completely random and
> bizzarre, and have no
> corelation to any sort of message, symbolic or
> direct. obviously there are
> many levels you can interpret dreams at, but my only
> advice is to be as
> consistent, persistent, and precise as possible when
> recording your dreams.
> who knows - they may be telling you something you
> need to know in a few
> years when you go back and look at your diary on a
> hunch.
>
> as far as interpretation goes, david outlines an
> approach, and it was
> posted to the list some time ago. it's message #
> 106 in the archives...
> maybe this link will take you there:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asc2k/message/106
>
> check it out - great basic info.
>
> hope everyone's doing well.
>
> later,
>
> jeremy
>
> p.s. it was my understanding that we have several
> people from texas on the
> list. and, excuse me, but isn't va considered the
> "south"? ;-) we're
> still fighting the civil war here in fredericksburg
> (or at least making
> money off of it).
>
> -----original message-----
> from: tiffani boswell <tiffani@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=n5wn5xd4gzgxcdzgvjvnwem8i5-pd9_-gbb-o_k3dzv__qokthonrymqtzkctsz0vslap-sfhuhbpdyvxmei)>
> to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=rpqmnowch_-thv1uir6ccgmoi9oraihmjvlzkm2ujn-6byv1nudcp8y1b_ud9r6khjnxtdqco0ke0c88wt-m1a) <asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=rpqmnowch_-thv1uir6ccgmoi9oraihmjvlzkm2ujn-6byv1nudcp8y1b_ud9r6khjnxtdqco0ke0c88wt-m1a)>
> date: wednesday, july 18, 2001 1:45 pm
> subject: [asc2k] dreams
>
>
> >hi...i am in the dfw area....it did seem like no
> one else on the list was
> >from teh south :)
> >
> >question for all
> >
> >i hear david talk alot and mention his dream logs
> that he has been logging
> >for a long time....
> >
> >my question is i have been writing my dreams
> down...what is the best way
> for
> >interpreting them...unfortunately my dreams are so
> confusing and weird
> (like
> >animals i have never seen and places i have never
> been colors, people
> >languages...etc..) i don't know where to start....
> >
> >my husband has simple dreams...like if we are
> wondering about someone or
> >something...he dreams of them "all sitting at a
> round table and talking
> >about it" etc...so easy!
> >
> >so any help would be appreciated
> >
> >----- original message -----
> >from: "lynn ferguson" <meridianhealth@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=7kqvdo5cothktoimmp627ofxx1k4m6wj0diwhn hx69spuxhukcykelz2pfav_kslcdcnhrxtaezpgesj7jdcfq)>
> >to: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=rpqmnowch_-thv1uir6ccgmoi9oraihmjvlzkm2ujn-6byv1nudcp8y1b_ud9r6khjnxtdqco0ke0c88wt-m1a)>
> >sent: july 16, 2001 4:12 am
> >subject: re: [asc2k] to jeremy
> >
> >
> >> yes, i absolutely concur! hold the image of a
> washing machine in your
> >> mind, as it spins...the centrifugal force propels
> the clothing to the
> >> outside rim. this same process formed the outer
> crust and a hollow inner
> >> earth on this and all planets.
> >>
> >> admiral byrd made the journey...and if you read
> his journal and talk
> >> to his relative who gives presentations and has
> written material on the
> >> admiral's discoveries; you'll be quite impressed
> to find that he did
> >> in fact travel into the inner earth. and what is
> more, there were
> >thriving
> >> civilizations there to greet and meet him. the
> sea of tranquility, as
> >> it is called by the inhabitants there, extends
> from the ocean into the
> >> interior. the inhabitants are evolved
> sufficiently to masque the
> openings
> >> and have confounded naval vessels and other
> governmental craft who
> >attempted
> >> to gain entrance. they were not and have not yet
> been allowed to enter
> >> this domain.
> >>
> >> furthermore, i have personal knowledge of several
> of the entrances.
> >> my half brother was a pilot in the air force and
> was lost in the devil's
> >> triangle during one of those infamous storms. i
> have researched this
> >> subject thoroughly, because i keep meeting him
> out-of-body and i wanted
> >> to understand the phenomena. there are
> entrances/exits in various
> >locations,
> >> like the burmuda triangle, mt. shasta, certain
> mountain ranges, both
> >> north and southern polar regions and even in
> kentucky. the book,
> >etidorpha,
> >> describes the journey quite well. i have seen
> one of the little people,
> >> as the shoshoni indians call them in wyoming at a
> museum in casper when
> >> i was much younger. the mummified adult body,
> barely three feet in
> >height,
> >> was displayed for visitors. it had been found by
> a miner
> >underground...the
> >> male was sitting in the lotus position when he
> died. fascinating! this
> >> is given further credence with the legends of
> lepracauns and the stories
> >> of middle earth and the hobbits. the tall race,
> descended from our
> >off-planet
> >> ancestors, resembling the watusi often use the
> tunneling network and
> >> leave parrot feathers and other articles on
> separate continents in their
> >> travels. louis l'amour hinted at this carefully
> in one of his last
> books.
> >> he lived close to me in durango, colorado and
> this was common knowledge
> >> among the locals. during one expedition with my
> husband in this area,
> >> i actually put my hand on the rock that opened to
> one of the tunnels
> >> and passageways. since we didn't have supplies
> and our children were
> >> with a babysitter only for the afternoon, we
> decided not to continue
> >> to go inside - although i was tempted! that
> adventure awaits another
> >> day still to come...anyone interested?
> >>
> >> just as john suggests that the egyptians and
> atlations migrated
> >underground
> >> through the tunnels to dwell and survive the
> cataclysms, there is
> evidence
> >> and stories that abound describing this. ram
> talks about this in great
> >> detail. even the hopi talk of the coming fifth
> cleansing, when the
> people
> >> will go into the earth again as they have on the
> previous four occasions.
> >> and what makes this an even more enticing topic,
> is that many of our
> >> merkabah spacecraft inhabit this realm. they
> come and go freely. they
> >> often observe surface dwellers to see if we have
> evolved to the point
> >> of deserving contact and interaction...then they
> retreat when they see
> >> how we treat our fellow man in war and other
> human exploits. admiral
> >> byrd saw the flying craft and describes them in
> his journal. my half
> >> brother radioed a report during the storm that
> what they saw was
> >remarkable
> >> and that no one would believe them! i do!
> >>
> >> there's a lot more to this subject. the aurora
> borealis lights are
> >reflections
> >> of the smoky sun on the interior. the color of
> the skin of those who
>
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[Louise Rioux]

hi everyone,
i had a 16 year old labrador who came into my life when he was three months
old. recently he was starting to have a tumor in his mouth and the vet said
i should think of having him euthanized because he was too old to be
operated. he was still eating well and did not seem to be suffering. i
couldn't make up my mind to separate from my best friend. i asked him what
he wanted. for several days, i didn't seem to receive any answer. one day i
was talking on the phone to a friend and suddenly i remembered that i had
had the same dream twice within the last week. i dreamed that my dog was
trying to climb a concrete wall to go to the other side and he couldn't make
it and he seemed desperate and needed help...so i finally got the courage to
help my companion to cross to the other side because i knew that's what he
wanted.
this happened last week.
lol
louise.

[Tiffani Boswell]

hi again...

thanks jeremy for the link to the post of david's about dreams...i wrote a
lot of it down...while i was writing it down alot of dreams started coming
back to me...but it was really hard for me to apply (even how great it was)
what david said....there was too much weirdness in my dreams...

and has he ever referred to flying...alot about vehicles and being above
looking down...but not specifically flying...

i am feeling frustrated having more and more dreams sometimes two or three a
night and vivid and writing them down but clueless....

did you happen to post some places that david talks about them on the
website...could you resend those links por favor...

another thing i am having a hard time with is relating everything, every
person, car, etc to parts of me....that is hard...especially when there are
people i know in the dream....ie: mom, friend, etc...and when weird things
happen that don't seem to fit...and i seem to have alot of animals in my
dreams lately...certain breeds of dogs...some cats...and even animals that
arelike these pink half rabbit/ half bird...

any other suggestions?

thanks so much!!!!!

tiffani
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subject: [asc2k] video games and aether


> i just noticed a game that's coming out called, strifeshadow. its a
> real-time strategy game like starcraft. anyways, i noticed a screenshot
and
> in the upper right hand corner...one of the resources is aether. here is
a
> link,
>
>
http://www.voodooextreme.com/shot.taf?image=apache/shots/strife/july/bg01.jp
> g
>
> also notice the gyroscope device, and the crystals on top of the
buildings.
> the company making the game is also called ethermoon entertainment.
>
> check out the game at http://www.ethermoon.com/main/index.phtml
>
> just thought i would pass this along.
>
> take care,
> mark
>
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[Jeremy Weiland]

> back to me...but it was really hard for me to apply (even how great it
was)
> what david said....there was too much weirdness in my dreams...

don't be too hard on yourself... i have a lot of really wierd dreams
that don't make any sense at all as well. one thing i find that helps is to
remember what you were thinking in the dream, or how you felt. that can
often give you the key to how you approach the interpretation of your dream.

and sometimes you just have wierd dreams :-) i can tell you, though,
that the more you pay attention to your dreams, clean up your diet,
meditate, etc, the more sense your dreams make - not neccessarily
interpretation-wise, but more in a general understanding sense. you don't
feel like you just got out of the twilight zone when you wake up. when i
was heavy into the best et diet i could manage, getting to bed early,
meditating on a regular basis, and basically behaving, i found that although
i couldn't get the gist of every dream, i felt the experiences in my dreams
made more sense, at least at an intuitive level. i was more comfortable
with the dreams, even if i didn't understand the messages completely. i
don't know how to describe it neccessarily, but my dreams were not as
bizzare and disjointed as they were before.

> did you happen to post some places that david talks about them on the
> website...could you resend those links por favor...

if i did post some places where david talks about "them" (not sure what
you mean by "them"), you can check the asc2k archives at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asc2k/messages and see what i posted. the
only place i'm aware of david talking about dream interpretation is in that
post i referred you to. maybe david could give us some more resources...
<nudge, nudge>.

> another thing i am having a hard time with is relating everything, every
> person, car, etc to parts of me....that is hard...especially when there
are
> people i know in the dream....ie: mom, friend, etc...and when weird things
> happen that don't seem to fit...and i seem to have alot of animals in my
> dreams lately...certain breeds of dogs...some cats...and even animals that
> arelike these pink half rabbit/ half bird...

again, settle down, you're not alone. i don't think any of us can
interpret our dreams 100%. remember that these messages contained in dreams
are coming from another *dimension*. the communication is not instantaneous
like speaking or writing email; rather, you gain information about dreams
through a more intuitive, contemplative form of study. and who among us
doesn't need to brush up on their intuitive skills? :-) like, for instance,
don't concentrate on what the rabbit-bird *was* exactly, concentrate on your
reaction to it in the dream. visualize it in contemplation. worth a try.

i can attest to the fact that most of the people in your dream are
representing aspects about yourself. any aspect that we notice in others is
something that is latent and potential within ourself. sometimes the only
way we can recognize a latent aspect of personality is through other people.
maybe the unconscience uses these people as symbols for those qualities that
we recognize in them but ultimately reside within ourselves as well. kinda
like projection, y'know.

that's just my theory, but it's why i think you have to look at everyone
as representing an aspect of you - i mean, why would you be getting
information from your higher self about anything other than yourself? think
about it - ultimately *all* work we do in this life is on the self, because
that's all that exists!

food for thought.

later,

jeremy

[Lynn Ferguson]

before you enter the twilight stage of sleep, while you are still aware
of your thoughts; give yourself the command to dream in images and people
who represent what you want/need to know - even about the meaning of
dream images that confound you.

in your dream, become the rabbit, and then take on the form of the other
animals that appeared in your previous dreams. this is the technique
that shamans and medicine men use to 'know' when they enter an altered
state of consciousness through trance, dance, or contemplation. once
you are in the animal form, you will see from those eyes...and know.
be curious, be willing to re-enter that same dreamscape and explore
it more deeply, until you have the knowledge that the subconscious mind
is conveying to you. it will come, if you expect and allow it.

one of the reasons why a dream will take on more distorted and uncommon
images and combinations that are unfamiliar to us, is because you have
not been paying attention to the previous dream messages and their significance
for you. so the subconscious mind (the living god within you) finds
it necessary to intensify the dream images, to get your attention, to
alert you, to capture your imagination; so you give it the consideration
it deserves.

once you learn your inner language, then the next step in the dreamscape
is to learn to leave your body at rest and travel in the realm of infrared,
and then beyond into the other five seals and their dimensional doorways.
once you've mastered this, then the next initiation in the dreamstate,
will be to dream your following day into being. now that's a master!

--
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[dreskir]

> once you've mastered this, then the next initiation in the
dreamstate,
> will be to dream your following day into being. now that's a
master!
>


what specificly do you mean by the previous statment?

[Jeremy Weiland]

>> once you've mastered this, then the next initiation in the
>>dreamstate,
>> will be to dream your following day into being. now that's a
>>master!
> what specificly do you mean by the previous statment?


well, i'm reading seth speaks right now and the entity seth is talking about
all the different things we do while we're asleep. he does mention that one
of the things our more multidimensional selves do is (partially) program the
events we will experience for the coming day. just how this is done is not
explained (and quite likely beyond our conscious comprehension).

hope that helps!

later,

jeremy

[Brian V. Cox]

all,

i just started keeping a dream journal about a month ago, and i still
cant remember most dreams. i seem to be dreaming and remembering them
more since i started to write them down, but i still dont have too many
dream memories...but looking back at my journal, the two dreams that
i was able to transcribe in the most detail keep sticking out at me
like they are/were trying to tell me something...i've never really
thought of any of my dreams as being predictive or precognitive, except
for a couple a few years ago that did indeed come true, but those
were for personal events in my own life.

i dont know why i'm posting these, other than to see what you guys
might think are some of the meanings in the symbolism, and see if
my own interpretations have any merit.


anyway, here they are. i'll put comments in there too...

08/14/01: (mayan kin 223, 2 akbal, blue lunar night)

i'm on the bridge/ramp by work. galatyn parkway [9/14: this is
in the telecom corridor area of richardson, tx] it looks about the
same as in reality. it's dark and very quiet. i'm with many people
walking north. a sliver of an overhead transparency is on the ground.
someone picks it up, and rejoices that it's a test, or answers to
a test, like in high school. we then see that the debris littering
the bridge is from an accident. the first car i see is facing me,
a little to the right. the car has been cut in half. someone
recognizes the car as their teacher's/professor's, and says "alright!...
must be my test! [9/14: answers to their test, since it was their prof]
apparently, i'm the only one that recognizes the carnage of the wreck.
i keep walking and there must be a dozen cars at least, all in various
levels of destruction. all of the drivers are still in their cars,
some are alive, others obviously not.
an ambulance tries to get through the people, but has trouble.
all the random people are still looking at all the overhead tranparencies
as they walk, completely oblivious to the people half-dead in their cars.

09/06/01: (mayan kin 246, 12 kimi, white crystal world bringer)

running from something unknown, i jump into an airplane.
it's a large commercial airplane. i'm on the freeway (59) near
my mom's house [9/14: in humble, tx, very near george bush airport]
for some reason i think the freeway is too short to take off, so the
takeoff is aborted. i take the airplane like a car through traffic,
somehow fitting the wings between other cars and trees. then, the
wing clips something and a fire starts. i jump out of the plane and
run as the plane explodes. [9/14: this explosion was very vivid and orange]
i easily avoid the explosion, and start calmly walking like nothing
happened. no one knows it was me driving the plane.

[9/14: the first dream has very interesting symolism with the "overhead
transparencies" as "a test or answers to a test." in retrospect,
this could be connected to the piles of papers and documents
at the wtc, or could be literally referring to the "overhead
transparency" left above the nyc skyline by the buildings being
gone. i didnt think much of the "walking north with a crowd
of people" part until i kept hearing all the reports after
the attack saying that everyone was walking/running north in
lower manhattan together through the debris.

the second dream really is interesting to me not just because
of the airplane and the explosion, but because of the last line:
"no one knows it was me driving the plane." my intuition tells
me that this means that i or we as humanity were really the pilots
of the plane in the dream, and possibly the real planes in nyc,
through our own negativity. we are really all one, and this
action was done by the negative part of our group conciousness.
relating this to the first dream, it is a test for humanity.]

am i reaching here? i'm going to try to keep writing down my dreams,
maybe it will get easier to remember them in the future. for now i
have only been able to get maybe one or two a week.

in lak'ech, brian

ps i've been keeping another journal in which i keep the mayan day count,
and also do sketches and "automatic writing" which is stream-of-conciousness
type writing where you just write whatever is coming into your head.
here is what i wrote on 8/14, the day of the first dream:

first, this is the mayan dreamspell energizing poem for 8/14/01:

i polarize in order to dream
stabilizing intuition
i seal the input of abundance
with the lunar tone of challenge
i am guided by the power of vision

here is what i wrote: (i write down songs that pop into my head too)

8/14/01:

"and when you lose control,
you'll reap the harvest you have sown" [9/14: a pink floyd lyric]

synchronized dreaming, the language of
the soul, returns my awareness back to
the source of knowledge. time-lapse
realization of harmonic interactions of
the past and future.

"i can't belive i spent so long,
living lies i knew were wrong inside,
i've just begun to see the light..."

"is there anybody listening?
is there anyone that sees what's going on?
think for yourself and feel the walls
become sand beneath your feet" [9/14: a queensryche lyric]

back to the synchronization of the
dream memory complex. patterns emerge in the
timeless cascade of symbiotic moments.
water cleanses in more ways than we know.
unity is the aspiration of the radiant
being, consonance defines. butterfly wings
flap knowledge of the infinite, the
frequency of its beat in perfect accord
with concious intelligent energy, that is
the golden light ocean i find myself
immersed within.
fractalization of the universal body
informs the one of the experiences of
the many. each subself experience is unique
in its own reference frame, but similar to
all. in one cell of the ant is contained
the genetic knowledge of the universal whole.
such is the definition of self-similar
compartmentalization.


sorry this was so long, i dont have anything
to do at work right now.

if anyone is interested, i'll post more
of my automatic writings. this one
i just typed in is the first one
i've share with anyone.

later...brian




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[Tiffani Boswell]

<table bgcolor="#ffffff">
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">as some on the list have been interested in dreams lately i am going to post some stuff from an article about edgar cayce and dreams...sorry it is not online (got it in the mail) so i can't give a link...and it lines up well with what david recommends...(its ok for me to quote things that i have "subscribed" to as long as i give reference...right...without violating their copyright or whatever???) also...not saying it is all perfect for dream interpreation..but take what you need and leave the rest...</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">enjoy...</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">to remember edgar cayce recommends:</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">1. give yourself a pre-sleep suggestion</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">2. don't move the body upon waking (just hover between sub conscious and daily consciousness or risk jumping into the body consciousness to fast)</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">3. record teh content or impressions right away.</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">cayce says..."dreams are of different natures, and have their inception from influences either in teh body, in the mind, or from the realm of the soul and spirit." so first identify the influence behind the dream: is it body, the mind, or the soul?</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">"cayce says that the most common influence impelling dreams is "menal development"...our subconscious (mind of our soul) and our superconscious (mind of our godly self) are attempting to correlate events and decisions with eternal, spiritual ideals and purposes.</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">generally the feeling that accompanies the dream reveals how our soul feels about events, decisions, or conditions. beyond correlating, some dreams reflect conditions in the body that need to be cared for; some deal with opportunities that need to be seized; others are non-physical experiences in other dimensions of life that help us expand our consciousness. in some dreams we reak the time barrier and see far into the past or even into the future.</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">dreams are multidimensional. it is this very quality that makes them so difficult to understand.....from biblical jouneys with god to modern scientific breakthrough, dreams have played a major role in human experience (tiffani - didn't i read somewhere, maybe here that edison dreamt of the light bulb !) </font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">cayce always said that the best interpreter of the dream is the dreamer: 'you interpret dreams in yourself. not by a dream book, not by what others say, but dreams are presented in symbols, in signs." it is important to recognize that the dreamer is our inner self. therefore the best interpreter is our inner self, so we should obtain the interpreattion while still in or near the dreaming self. trying to translate the dream laster with only our outer, three-dimensional self is very difficult.</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">here are some quick steps toward better interpretation:</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">1. watch your mood upon waking. this will give you the best sense of whether the inner self is happy or unhappy about conditions.</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">2. get the gist of the dream first, details second.jesus once observed that we tend to strain for gnats while we are swallowing camels. the big picture, the overriding theme, is much more important for us to grasp than the details.</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">3. understand that the subsconscious may use exaggeration to get our attention. exaggerated activities and shocking imagery will do more to get out attention than swettly whispered instructions...don't let them overwhelm you or cause fear..in fact, the bizarre image or activity is likely the key to interpreting the entire dream.</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">4. dreams are usually symbolic. they speak in imagery that represents more than literal appearance. like good parables they tell a story that has deeper meaning thatn the detail...often they use figures of speech.</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">5. finally, nothing will help us get better dream guidance than using dream content in our lives...ask yourself, how can i use this dream in my life today? even if you are not really sure of the dream's meaning, attempt to use some portion of it. in this way your inner self will be stimulated to bring more insight and guidance through the dream channel and it will become clearer and more relevant.</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">love you all
tiffani</font>

[Sunny One]

thanks tiffani,

i've been dreaming a lot lately, very
uncommon for me...one fragment included
becoming nauseated after seeing a guy
eat chunks of meat in motor oil, reminded
me of david's "windy city stew"....could
there be a correspondance, i.e. could
many people dream similar things?

this question:
"how can i use this dream in my life today?"
influences me quite a bit because i let it.
if we let our dreams influence us, is it us
influencing ourselves, or is it some higher
source influencing via the dream vehicle?

thanks again and sweet dreams,
pat


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[zhing311]

later in the day after reading tiffany's post about dreams i finally
got a chance to read the are newsletter i had yet to open - and it
was the same material about dreams - good timeing. as it happened i
read it right before bed - whats funny, is that last night i had a
dream, and after the dream was "over," within my dream, i began to
write down my dream!! i dont write them down in real life, but i did
in the dream. it was on some funny peice of paper - of couse its
gone now cause the dream is over - but in the dream, i wrote down
everything that happened in the previous dream - i just thought that
was cool. btw, my dream or at least the small part i remember was
about golf. i was teeing off against sergio garcia at some wierd
course. i was using a 3 wood, and the ball was teed up very very
high but i couldnt do anything about it - whenever i would get ready
to hit, i would mistakenly knock the ball off - i found this to be
very very frustrating as i wanted to hit an awesome shot! god only
knows what that could mean......but i am going to the driving range
tonight, although its obviously symbolic.






--- in asc2k@y..., sunny one <sol72us@y...> wrote:
> thanks tiffani,
>
> i've been dreaming a lot lately, very
> uncommon for me...one fragment included
> becoming nauseated after seeing a guy
> eat chunks of meat in motor oil, reminded
> me of david's "windy city stew"....could
> there be a correspondance, i.e. could
> many people dream similar things?
>
> this question:
> "how can i use this dream in my life today?"
> influences me quite a bit because i let it.
> if we let our dreams influence us, is it us
> influencing ourselves, or is it some higher
> source influencing via the dream vehicle?
>
> thanks again and sweet dreams,
> pat
>
>
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[Iaen23]

hi mawk

thanks for your feedback. ra has played a major role in my understanding of my
higher self.

this morning i had an interesting experience while chanting. i woke up at
4:30am here in the southern caribbean, trinidad and chanted for 3o minutes. my
apartment is on the ocean and mountains, south, west north west.

there is large swimming pool that is lighted at night. as i chanted i saw the
pool change colors from yellow, green, blue, dark blue and purple.

it was the first time i had this experience while chanting on my balcony. i
will do it again tommorow and see if the colors are there.


jeff

[Mawk]

hi jeff,

interesting experience. chanting has been a powerful tool for me too. while
i don't chant myself i often listen to the gyuto monks (tibetan) on cd while
meditating. while recently helping three tibetan monks build a stupa (small
shrine: 9-10 feet high) i was privileged to sit on a couple of their
chanting ceremonies aimed at blessing the stupa. great experience, one of
their chants went for over 2 hours but seemed like 15 minutes.

cheers,

mawk

[Brian Cox]

trance music is another way of entering those same realms...

check out some sound tribe sector 9 sometime...they try
to harmonize with cosmic rhythms through their music...

(sound tribe sector 9 was a tribe of the maya supposedly,
dedicated to exploring harmony through sound)

http://www.sts9.com


"music is the medicine of the future" -edgar cayce

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interesting experience. chanting has been a powerful tool for me too.
while


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[Tony P.]

i am not demanding an answer by the way.

how many different types of dreams are there? there are normal
dreams, and vivids dreams, i guess. but i think i had one once that
didn't fall into either of them. it's hard to remember it. vivid ones
are easier to remember. but this dream, it was realistic, but i
wasn't knowing it was a dream. but i think my level of thinking or
logic in the dream was more than it would normally be. maybe this is
nothing, and i'm just confused.

[BG]

good observation there, doomstars. good question, too.
problem being that dreams are not objects to be quantified for any reason
other than conversation. dreams are essentially qualitative in that they
gift the dreamer with residual memory be it joy or horror.
by the way, confused is a fine way to be but no way to dream...


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> i am not demanding an answer by the way.
>
> how many different types of dreams are there? there are normal
> dreams, and vivids dreams, i guess. but i think i had one once that
> didn't fall into either of them. it's hard to remember it. vivid ones
> are easier to remember. but this dream, it was realistic, but i
> wasn't knowing it was a dream. but i think my level of thinking or
> logic in the dream was more than it would normally be. maybe this is
> nothing, and i'm just confused.
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[bob_dunham]

if you smack a snooze button, you ain't sleepin' alone. according to
usa today, more than a third of american adults hit the snooze button
every morning an average of three times.

snooze alarms can do more than just make you late for work. they can
train you to remember your dreams. see, early morning is heavy rapid-
eye-movement time, when we dream heavily. the snooze alarm can be
your guide in and out of that dreamscape, as you might have noticed
on a morning when you hit the snooze button several times.

charles mcphee, the nationally syndicated columnist and radio host
known as "the dream doctor," says if you can't remember your dreams
you can try this exercise.

on a morning when you can sleep in, set your alarm and when it
sounds, hit the snooze alarm. lie still and work back in your mind to
what you were just dreaming about. remember your emotions and
whatever snippets of the dream you can. see if you can piece together
the outline of a dream, and write it in a notebook by your bed. then
go back to sleep and repeat the process each time the snooze alarm
buzzes.

this can train your mind to better remember your dreams, mcphee says.

[David Wilcock]

from: asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=rityeqtjizsvc-bzg6z-avbtk2-b-6yr68shjmehvlprlpiprw9rhusaosxlwzxopzov57xh3cv3bs7 afpnj) [mailto:asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=rityeqtjizsvc-bzg6z-avbtk2-b-6yr68shjmehvlprlpiprw9rhusaosxlwzxopzov57xh3cv3bs7 afpnj)] on behalf of
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--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=rityeqtjizsvc-bzg6z-avbtk2-b-6yr68shjmehvlprlpiprw9rhusaosxlwzxopzov57xh3cv3bs7 afpnj), "david wilcock" <djw333@i...> wrote:
> snip snip
> documenting my dreams every morning religiously
> for the previous 4 years straight, and following their guidance.
> snip snip
> suffice it to say that for four years before this all started, i was
> very in touch with my higher self and well aware of most of what it
> wanted already. dreams are really not hard to figure out once you
> learn the language.

>do you or anybody else have any more tips concerning dream
interpretation? in the files section there is a file named "handy
checklist for dream analysis" from you.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asc2k/files/david%27s%20handy%20checklist%20fo
r%20dream%20analysis

>do you have any more tips since then or any new insights concerning
dream analysis and how others can interpretate their dreams. i have a
very hard time interpretating my dreams, i write them down every
morning since 3 years and most of the time i can't make much out of
them only when it's a right in my face kind of message.

dw: there is no shortcut to enlightenment. just keep persisting in trying to
see how every character, every thing that happens in the dream, every
environment, is telling you a story about yourself.

the more you learn this, the more you will be able to go back through
previous dream transcripts and say "oh my god! duh... how could i not see
this?"

so the documentation is not a waste. keep doing it. the more detail you can
bring back the more likely you are to actually benefit from its analysis.
five sentences a morning is not sufficient.

peace be with you -

- david

[Teresa Espinoza]

i have been told by everyone that i need to record my dreams, but if
i get to sleep i can never remember my dreams. i am trying to be
patient, but i used to take sleeping pills every night until a
couple of months ago when i decided it was time to quit all the
anxiety meds. when(if) i sleep i do not remember any of my dreams. i
try and then i get very angry. i wake up and almost immediately feel
infuriated. i really feel like i need to figure out how to "dream"
all over again. meditation gets the same results usually. when i
start to move along i am shocked back to the present by something
and i feel fear. i am really working on it. it seems the more
passive i have become to other people the worse things are getting
for me, and i know that is not true. i thought things would come
together after i stopped with the meds (for panic attacks)and i have
completely changed my life around only to have it happen all over
again (ex husband causing trouble, money worries, car trouble, etc.)
i knew it would take time, but it has been a couple of months and i
thought all the drugs would be out of my system and i would start
over. the last thing i want to do is go back on medication, but i
cannot sleep, and i am very tired. just sort of trying to hang on.
i have reflexology, accupuncture and reiki on a regular basis and i
believe i am physically in much better shape, so i do not feel any
problems there. spiritually i am stronger than ever (still have a
long way to go). i also seem to be happier than ever. i just do
not understand. any thoughts? i know this is not the normal thing
to talk about, i just need a little direction. i have read most of
david's material (and many others) and i know someone will be able
to direct me back to the right path. sorry for all the chatter.
love to all,
teresa

[Michaelangelo]

shalom sister teresa

everyone told me i should write my dreams down too, but i never did for
a while either. then one day i decided to try writing mine down too
regardless of what i remembered, and then was (finally) able to start
remembering them. don't be discouraged if it takes you about 6 months
to ~ 1 year to be able to remember your dreams. hang in there! where
there is a will, there is a way!

here are some tips...

* as you fall asleep, mentally say to yourself, "/i remember my
dreams./" (avoid affirmations which involve the future, or failure.
i.e. "/i will.../", or "/i will not forget my dreams./" instead it
should be about current success.)

* when you awake in the morning, immediately don't move!

* recall what you can of your dream -- this will trigger you to remember
more. once you start remembering, start writing the details down; again
this will trigger a little more each time.

* it can be tempting to be upset, at the lack of progress, but as with
all things, practice is the key. since you are on meds, you will have a
difficult time, but remember the adage:
"/success is 5% inspiration, 95% persistence./"

* become obsessed with it -- remind yourself throughout the day that you
have the ability to remember you dreams.

* look into alternatives -- i.e. guided meditation. i like robert
monroe's hemi-sync "/lucid dreaming/" or "/gateway/" series.
http://www.toolsforwellness.com/71051.html
http://www.toolsforwellness.com/monroe.html

* worry less about the goal, and focus more on enjoying the journey. if
you will excuse me for being extremely candid, "do you worry when you
don't have orgasm when having sex?" in other words, enjoy the moment
of the "now" -- the goal is just a "bonus."

with practice, you'll start lucid dreaming, where you are aware that you
are dreaming -- and this is where the real fun starts.
hope this helps.

peace
michaelangelo


teresa espinoza wrote:
> i have been told by everyone that i need to record my dreams, but if
> i get to sleep i can never remember my dreams. i am trying to be
> patient, but i used to take sleeping pills every night until a
> couple of months ago when i decided it was time to quit all the
> anxiety meds. when(if) i sleep i do not remember any of my dreams. i
> try and then i get very angry. i wake up and almost immediately feel
> infuriated. i really feel like i need to figure out how to "dream"
> all over again. meditation gets the same results usually. when i
> start to move along i am shocked back to the present by something
> and i feel fear. i am really working on it. it seems the more
> passive i have become to other people the worse things are getting
> for me, and i know that is not true. i thought things would come
> together after i stopped with the meds (for panic attacks)and i have
> completely changed my life around only to have it happen all over
> again (ex husband causing trouble, money worries, car trouble, etc.)
> i knew it would take time, but it has been a couple of months and i
> thought all the drugs would be out of my system and i would start
> over. the last thing i want to do is go back on medication, but i
> cannot sleep, and i am very tired. just sort of trying to hang on.
> i have reflexology, accupuncture and reiki on a regular basis and i
> believe i am physically in much better shape, so i do not feel any
> problems there. spiritually i am stronger than ever (still have a
> long way to go). i also seem to be happier than ever. i just do
> not understand. any thoughts? i know this is not the normal thing
> to talk about, i just need a little direction. i have read most of
> david's material (and many others) and i know someone will be able
> to direct me back to the right path. sorry for all the chatter.
> love to all,
> teresa
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[Teresa Hunter]

i really appreciate you taking the time to help. i may be wanting to move
faster than i should. i have never been very patient, but that is getting
better. i know it will come, i just feel like there is something else i need to
be doing, so i think i am trying to rush things, and of couse with out my usual
nightly cocktails i am tossing and turning and frustrated. i will hang in
there. thank you so much, i will check into those links and have faith that it
will come to me.

with much love,

teresa

michaelangelo <michaelangelotruth@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=wspjhgm-3rhitnjvgjurpmpqpun8bantt_mkfxha8ssw2gptxbfuaupt91 ekucvfv_x5av46vhicavxuw304fawvca)> wrote:
shalom sister teresa

everyone told me i should write my dreams down too, but i never did for
a while either. then one day i decided to try writing mine down too
regardless of what i remembered, and then was (finally) able to start
remembering them. don't be discouraged if it takes you about 6 months
to ~ 1 year to be able to remember your dreams. hang in there! where
there is a will, there is a way!

here are some tips...

* as you fall asleep, mentally say to yourself, "/i remember my
dreams./" (avoid affirmations which involve the future, or failure.
i.e. "/i will.../", or "/i will not forget my dreams./" instead it
should be about current success.)

* when you awake in the morning, immediately don't move!

* recall what you can of your dream -- this will trigger you to remember
more. once you start remembering, start writing the details down; again
this will trigger a little more each time.

* it can be tempting to be upset, at the lack of progress, but as with
all things, practice is the key. since you are on meds, you will have a
difficult time, but remember the adage:
"/success is 5% inspiration, 95% persistence./"

* become obsessed with it -- remind yourself throughout the day that you
have the ability to remember you dreams.

[pollytabscott]

i am tossing and turning and frustrated. i will hang in there. thank
you so much, i will check into those links and have faith that it will
come to me.


polly: hi theresa, i too am getting much less sleep than i *want*
because i sleep with a 3yo (on saturday!) and an 8.5 month old :-} i
am trying to take that awake time to both meditate and pray, as it is
quiet, and if i will just remember to see it that way, this time is a
gift! i also heard some dream experts on c2c who said to actually ask
a question of your higher self to "incubate" a dream that will answer
your question. haven't been able to consciously do this one yet, but
i'm working on it. maybe tonight!
blessings,
peace be with you,
polly miriam

[Chris Hamilton]

i just want to encourage you polly :) the law of one is always talking about
choices, particularly our own :). pre-incarnativly we decide what we want
our next physical life to include so that we may learn the lessons we have
chosen as a theme of sorts. to me, the choice to bear and raise children is
the most important choice we ever make:). it requires so many
sacrifices-this life choice is truly a service-to-other path :). i
congratulate you on that choice. chris
________
polly:

polly: hi theresa, i too am getting much less sleep than i *want*
because i sleep with a 3yo (on saturday!) and an 8.5 month old :-} i
am trying to take that awake time to both meditate and pray, as it is
quiet, and if i will just remember to see it that way, this time is a
gift! peace be with you, polly miriam

[Teresa Hunter]

i remember those days well! mine are 16 & 10 (girls) now. i have a whole new
set of worries now, but it has been so worth it!!!!
i am reading "animal speak" along with other things right now and it is
starting to help. thank you for your encouragement. enjoy those cuddle times!!
peace and love,
teresa

pollytabscott <pollytabscott@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=m_bqez0vakik8bshlc91danz05jnm7lr_i1qwf dhdptekzwotf0tjbnxik4puync4jan3octbew4ijsww1cu_q)> wrote:
i am tossing and turning and frustrated. i will hang in there. thank
you so much, i will check into those links and have faith that it will
come to me


polly: hi theresa, i too am getting much less sleep than i *want*
because i sleep with a 3yo (on saturday!) and an 8.5 month old :-} i
am trying to take that awake time to both meditate and pray, as it is
quiet, and if i will just remember to see it that way, this time is a
gift! i also heard some dream experts on c2c who said to actually ask
a question of your higher self to "incubate" a dream that will answer
your question. haven't been able to consciously do this one yet, but
i'm working on it. maybe tonight!
blessings,
peace be with you,
polly miriam

[bluephoenix010]

there is a field and business devoted around the process of 'image
streaming'. this is a process of visualisation similar to dreaming,
you can look it up on the internet, the creator was win wenger. i
have had some very helpful and psychically recieved answers from a
related process called 'high thinktank'

i have seen many, many of these types of problems before, the ones
that come down to a similar thing. just think that if you do have the
strength and courage to pull yourself through your situation, you
will be strong indeed!

the symptoms you spoke of all have a common theme. of being
ungrounded and not having your energies in your lower chakra's. lack
of sleep comes from being ungrounded. panic attacks come from you
literally nearly 'leaving your body' and moving away from the root
chakra. not 'being here'. when your root chakra is healthy, and of
it's optimum colour (red) then you are well grounded and in the 'here
and now', as well as connected to the earth, you are also secure and
do not have frequent financial worries. though your reiki healer
should have explained this.

you mentioned getting regular treatments of three different
therapies. make sure you are comfortable about this, because you can
only move as fast as your consciousness can handle. the changes
required for healing have to be dealt with on a personal level
and 'you' can only move so fast. too much isn't harmful as far as i
know, but can be stressful so that makes it slightly counter
productive.

i don't know if you have any traumas or physical ailments that keep
you away from the root chakra, the 'here and now'. but some things
that help the root chakra are being near the earth, in the
countryside etc. your relationship with your mother (improving).
being in the here and now, and obviously, something that is helpful
all round is improving your diet to include roughage (fruit, veg,
nuts etc.), thereby improving your elimination system (root chakra).

avoid caffeine as well, raises your energies, and very stressful, but
that one can be a b*tch to stop. the most important thing is to only
go as fast as you can handle, you don't want to overstress yourself
and break down. ultimately, your inner guidance is there all the
time, only you really know what's best for yourself. obviously, your
most pressing problems are what you are being guided to sort out at
this time.

if you are taking all those therapies, things can only get better in
the long run.

namaste,



--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=csrk0ipxupinb--4gmuorttd-bqww1fvewjzdzszgvurbqv_yhwnxci0s1a7q9dd_0w_zqevjwb 2zso), "teresa espinoza" <teresamh7@...> wrote:
>
> ..... i thought things would come
> together after i stopped with the meds (for panic attacks)and i
have
> completely changed my life around only to have it happen all over
> again (ex husband causing trouble, money worries, car trouble,
etc.)
> .....> i have reflexology, accupuncture and reiki on a regular
basis and i
> believe i am physically in much better shape, so i do not feel any
> problems there. spiritually i am stronger than ever (still have a
> long way to go). i also seem to be happier than ever. i just do
> not understand. any thoughts?

[Z P C]

zee here:
teresa is asking for help.

from: "teresa espinoza" teresamh7@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=kl6vtwt4b8_roxqle0q2s_n3ibr604g18r8ybm snb4eduw_wip97johdppjyodkjgtm-vbtc1pncz8pqjq)
subject: dreams

i have been told by everyone that i need to record my dreams, but if
i get to sleep i can never remember my dreams. i am trying to be
patient, but i used to take sleeping pills every night until a
couple of months ago when i decided it was time to quit all the
anxiety meds.

zee here:
teresa, try using 5-htp and 3 mg of melatonin. i use the kind of melatonin that
dissolves under the tongue.
these are substances that are made in your own body. they are not
pharmaceuticals.

as you go to sleep, repeat over to yourself:
"with the waining of rapid eye movement, i will come awake in my dreams,
remember my dreams,
record my dreams, relax, and return to sleep."
you may need to take another dose of 5-htp and melatonin, to get to sleep, if
you awaken, part way through the night.

teresa: when(if) i sleep i do not remember any of my dreams. i
try and then i get very angry. i wake up and almost immediately feel
infuriated.

zee: the 5-htp turns into seratonin. the seratonin turns into melatonin.
the seratonin will help your mood.

a suggested afirmation:
what i am connects to much of the universe, beyond physical reality.

what i am seeks to connect to more of what the universe is, beyond physical
reality.

what i am seeks to sense and to perceive the vast reality which lies beyond
physical reality.

what i am seeks to sense and to perceive physical reality with a mobility of
sensing, and a translational power of perception, beyond the capacities of the
physical senses.

what i am seeks to increase my awareness, my knowledge and my understanding of
that reality, both within and beyond physical reality.

what i am seeks to increase my responsiveness within physical reality, both by
means of internal processing and by means of external behaviour, so as to relate
more, to more, more extensively and more appropriately.

what i am seeks to increase my responsiveness to that reality beyond physical
reality.

what i am seeks this increase in my awareness, in my knowledge, in my
understanding and in my responsiveness, in order for me to engage the
responsibilities i have, the responsibilities i have as a result of the
opportunities of life that have been granted to me.

what i am seeks to augment, to revise, to edit and to refine, the of life i
hold.

what i am seeks to gain the enhanced, the enriched and the elegant associated
with greater energies and with greater energy systems.

what i am seeks this gain in behalf of the frontier of creation, which i
uniquely face, the frontier of creation, for which i am uniquely responsible, as
a creator being created.

what i am seeks a coordination, a cooperation, a consonance and a combining of
effortwith those who share purposes, principles, patterns, policies and
practices.

what i am seeks the assistance and the help of those beings whose commitment,
whose devotionand whose dedication is to the greater oneness, and those forces
and influences which align with the greater oneness.

what i am seeks an exchange, a companionship and / or an association with those
whose experience,whose knowledge and whose understanding are supplementary, are
complementary and / or are unique, with respect to my own.

i take refuge in the greater oneness.

i take refuge in my source of being.

i take refuge in my sources of inspiration and in my sources of guidance.

i take refuge in my spiritual family.


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[Unknown]

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=epq6_4ogunxqn90oltdpnflfuo8w8m40-_ao1y8uu-nmi3det3-lrtynwhxnkasftkq3axjfcvtwcku), "javiergoitia1" <javiergoitia1@...> wrote:
> ive found ra's insistence in the importance of dreams very
> validating. i was trained in working with dreams and ive found it
> to be very powerful. the basic theory is that in a dream all its
> parts are symbolic of a part of yourself. so when you are in some
> kind of conflict within the dream its you fighting against yourself
> really so the technique is used to integrate and reconcile those
> parts. [...] as the person goes through this he will get
> an intuitive understanding of what the dream represents without any
> analysis from the hypnotist.

i have a hard time with the interpretation of dreams.
i've been writing down my dreams every morning for several years and i
know it automatically helps me subcounsciously, but i really want to
learn how to work with them counsciously. i can only understand the
meaning of them when the message is truly right in the face.

anybody has any ideas or guidelines for help with interpretation of
dreams? i know it's a pretty personal thing and the symbolism is
personal but it's hard to recognise symbolism when one is confused.

tnx & greets,
Unknown

[javiergoitia1]

reconciling these parts within yourself is really more important
than actually understanding what the parts were exactly. its harder
to recognize what the benefit was afterwards but usually people can
see the difference after a bit. they may not feel as uncomfortable
in certain situations anymore or wont feel like putting themselves
down all the time like they used to or whatnot... depends on what
the dreams were representing.

using hypnotic dreamwork(which was pioneered by randal churchill,
the current president of the council of hypnotist examiners) the
person will usually come to understand by themselves what the
symbols represented without significant interference by the
hypnotist. sometimes the dreamwork ends up in a regression and that
can be very powerful also.

randal wrote a book called "become the dream: the transformational
power of hypnotic dreamwork" where he shows case stories of his own
clients and students he did this for. it was one of my text books
during class and its really really illuminating. i highly recommend
it.

its not as effective if you do it to yourself because you cant
concentrate and immerse yourself as much in the dream if you also
have to direct the session but it can be done.

basically sit comfortably and relax as your first step. now
remember as much of the dream as you can. then go to the beginning
and start narrating it out loud. stop and try to become one with a
part of the dream, it almost doesnt matter what, and talk like if
you were that thing. describe yourself, try to feel what its like
to be that thing or person. if there is a conflict between parts
talk to the conflicting thing or person, tell them how you feel,
then switch and become the other entity. talk back, switch back and
forth etc etc until you reach a compromise and you have broken the
impasse and come to understand what the parts represent.

as you go you will find the parts of yourself reaching compromises,
accepting each other, seeing that maybe what caused the conflict was
a missunderstanding. its a form of integration therapy and its very
effective particulary because your dreams know what is a priority
and what is not. dreams will lead you to the real points of
difficulty within your personality, rather than what you think in
your concious mind is most important.

i hope that helps you. :) i can give an example later if you want
one. good luck!

javier

> i have a hard time with the interpretation of dreams.
> i've been writing down my dreams every morning for several years
and i
> know it automatically helps me subcounsciously, but i really want
to
> learn how to work with them counsciously. i can only understand the
> meaning of them when the message is truly right in the face.
>
> anybody has any ideas or guidelines for help with interpretation of
> dreams? i know it's a pretty personal thing and the symbolism is
> personal but it's hard to recognise symbolism when one is confused.
>
> tnx & greets,
> Unknown
>

[* Zia]

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=tufsaq_zpfnf0orsfx7lfule90dwkwlxltfz3s 420pi4w4qke6i4dgv3fbl2-tlsdf79tn7nwrrgbaml), "pollytabscott" <pollytabscott@... wrote:
polly: hi theresa, i too am getting much less sleep than i *want* because i
sleep with a 3yo (on saturday!) and an 8.5 month old :-} i am trying to take
that awake time to both meditate and pray, as it is quiet, and if i will just
remember to see it that way, this time is a gift! i also heard some dream
experts on c2c who said to actually ask a question of your higher self to
"incubate" a dream that will answer your question. haven't been able to
consciously do this one yet, but i'm working on it. maybe tonight!

hi polly and theresa,

there is no more challenging job in the world than young children, and
especially if one is parenting on their own! even if not on one?s own, the
sense of responsibility to and for the child/ren is immense :) this pressure
alone can cause the mind to keep gyrating, sleep then hard to come by, and the
level of exhaustion so great that the sleep is extremely deep and the dream
easily lost in simply trying to wake up!

a simple thought for both of you, in that neither of you may care to use any
substance to assist you in the dream state: i have found that wearing a pair of
?blinders? for the eyes at night does a wonderful job of enhancing the melatonin
at night that increases visual acuity in the dream state, and often a deeper
lucidity in that state as well, as well as a good night?s sleep. the moment you
remove those blinders, even in the night, if you must go to a young child, feed
or whatever, then the serotonin that prepares the brain for functioning in
daylight and conscious awareness, kicks in straight away. you will also notice
in doing this that you will develop better night-vision.

so the trick with the blinders is to remember as you awaken to keep the blinders
on for a moment as you consciously remember the dream. then as you remember the
dream, remove the blinders and hopefully have pen and paper right at hand, and
do write it down straight away, even if this is the middle of the night, and
perhaps one is needing you :) at least get the keywords so that you can then
remember and link into the dream upon return.

the other thought that i found in sharing with others, is that usually when we
do not remember our dreams, it is because we have told our self at some point
that we do not want to remember them. getting in touch with what caused us to
forget, is often the most beneficial. understand that cause is usually from
when we are young, and so many children have a fear of the dark, and of dreams
consequently, going to sleep with that sense of fear, and consequently creating
rather fearful dreams. my simple suggestion to unlock that fear is to recall
any dreams you can from childhood, or events that were potentially quite
traumatic, perhaps your parents not being present. even ask your parents
regarding this if they are still alive, did you need to go to sleep with the
light on, and how was that resolved?

to get to sleep, and increase the chances of remembering your dream, is easily
assisted by chanting over and over until you fall asleep, ?i will remember my
dreams upon awakening?. the chanting (repeating) assists as it is the last
command given then prior to sleeping, and it assists as one gets most tired of
the same thought, in going straight to sleep! the other interesting thought is,
when we have what the conscious mind might consider to be a ?bad dream? the
beauty is that?s what gets our attention!

so if you look at the dream and don?t like it, put that thought on hold and
recognize it may have been required to get your attention and thus your memory
working :)

zia


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