The $64,000 Question?

[bob_dunham]

i was wondering how often david actually channels ra. i know it must have have
been quite
frequent when he was doing client readings. did i also read somewhere that the
ra that
david channels and the one that carla channeled for the loo series are actually
a little bit
different?

can david ask ra whatever he wants, or does ra just tend to say whatever they
want?

so heres my $64,000 question. can david channel ra and ask follow up questions
to the
law of one that don never asked?

[arcadia]

> --- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=vris9n8ctch7fu1asasdh-hczlr6hfi3k6xrdd2z__y5et6zmrba4-lnqoi7dfxoowq8iydn9aculdni0ueg0w), "bob_dunham" <bob_dunham@...> wrote:
> >
> > i was wondering how often david actually channels ra. i know it
> must have have been quite
> > frequent when he was doing client readings.

dw: four times a week at the time. i have not wanted to do it as things got so
stressful with the move - but now that i have found a great place, i am about to
fly back to kentucky, finish moving my stuff in 3 days, and fly back. once i get
settled i should be able to get back into the swing.

> did i also read
> somewhere that the ra that
> > david channels and the one that carla channeled for the loo series
> are actually a little bit
> > different?

dw: there was some very significant unexpected upheaval when i moved in to l/l
research that i found quite distressing. despite knowing everything about me and
my work before i moved, within just days of my arrival there was very strong
pressure from carla for me to drop the name ra entirely and change it to "gus,"
for "guidance system."

there is an l/l transcript from early in 2003, one of the only times this issue
was benign enough that we actually co-channeled together, and she puts this name
forward in the context of a reading. the issue was not concretely dropped until
the reincarnation? book came out in march 2004, since by then the establishment
of my connection to ra had been made irreversible. even afterwards i would hear
from others in the group that "it would be a really good idea if you would drop
the name ra since names aren't important anyway."

i was not willing to make such a severe change just due to political pressure
and this was one of the biggest hot issues, perhaps the biggest. for carla it
seemed to amount to nothing less than identity theft, and i tried to be very
sensitive to that by never, ever discussing it. this uncomfortable question has
forced the issue. now that i am truly leaving kentucky i feel less concerned in
talking about it.

the political compromise was that i felt obligated to make the distinction, in
writing, that my higher self is an entity within the ra social memory complex,
and that my male and female fifth-density selves, grandfather and lucia, often
facilitate the translation of this information, thus enabling the contact to
occur in a more conscious state. however i have certainly had "level 5"
channeling, not in the context of client readings, where i am completely unaware
of anything that is being said because i am so far out - and those would have
the most powerful metaphorically-encrypted messages in them.

> > can david ask ra whatever he wants, or does ra just tend to say
> whatever they want?

dw: there are very strict guidelines about what you do and do not ask about.
anything that is not directly related to the evolution of mind, body and spirit
is considered "transient" and can get you in real trouble for asking. in my case
i can just do a reading without there being a question other than "whatever will
work for the greatest good, let it be."

> >
> > so heres my $64,000 question. can david channel ra and ask follow
> up questions to the
> > law of one that don never asked?

dw: there's three major books online that answer that question, called
convergence. if the question is, "can this discussion group start firing
questions at david for his readings," then you'll just notice a mysterious
breach in my posting for a while as the issue is discussed...

have to go fly back now... peace be with you -

- david

[bob_dunham]

i am sorry for not being able to find this specific refference, but a
few weeks ago, in one of davids posts he mentioned something that "we
dont know because don never asked a follow-up question." (im
paraphrasing) also, i just figured there must be a few occasions where
david is re-reading the material and comes up with a followup
question. am i wrong about this? and are you saying that you asked
followup questions in order to write the convergence series? im
confused.


--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=zn3ze3lulfcuieepd2m0kawahdchjlrqatqamm ups-diggf5ifnfu0hsn0c_f5yxhx891olnu-sylry), djw333@... wrote:
> dw: there's three major books online that answer that question,
called convergence. if the question is, "can this discussion group
start firing questions at david for his readings," then you'll just
notice a mysterious breach in my posting for a while as the issue is
discussed...
>
> have to go fly back now... peace be with you -
>
> - david
>

[* Zia]

from: "bob_dunham" <bob_dunham@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=mnhcga2wrfa6eb-kspstzwbjseec2pq1odqfclqa2to_agkuyute1xlir9ibjzbpx dwgzqaxjv9pd-pyh_yx)>

i was wondering how often david actually channels ra. i know it must have
have been quite
frequent when he was doing client readings. did i also read somewhere that
the ra that
david channels and the one that carla channeled for the loo series are
actually a little bit
different?

can david ask ra whatever he wants, or does ra just tend to say whatever
they want?

so heres my $64,000 question. can david channel ra and ask follow up
questions to the
law of one that don never asked?


hi bob :) this is an excellent question. my answer would be of course,
yes. however, it is also up to ra or any being on higher levels for that
matter, as to their choice to answer us, and this also depends upon many
considerations. in experiencing entities that others also channel, what i
have personally discovered is that these entities do not tend to repeat
themselves :) what comes through one, is a 'point of view' applicable and
appropriate to the questioner, and potentially others frequency specific to
that point of view, and the contemplation (using information as catalyst)
that has the potential to further their spiritual progress. what comes
through another, is equally applicable and appropriate again frequency
specific to the receiver and those 'others' that may partake of that point
of view. all points of view, expand all that is. one must also realize
that what is so on one level of consciousness could actually be quite the
reverse on the next higher level! and that one must in a sense discard all
that came before, and receive with a fresh, clear, open mind and if in
doubt, simply ask 'why is this true?' or 'show me how this could be true?'
these two questions unfold within one's own 'christ' consciousness far more
of what is not said, that is intentionally designed for individual unfolding
if and as is ready with the ability to so unfold such greater truths. thus
many come unstuck when comparing outer messages received, which is simply a
form of judgment, and destined to cause doubt and confusion, for the truth
is felt, understood and known within, not because of who or what is being
given in the outer world of illusions :) z

[* Zia]

from: djw333@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=uoxi7ltsldqshmi-pxonmis-fdqzxzmuyeutqi2gcfcx7hoxam-nd27coejrop5sog9h8nmeyvcjzks)

the political compromise was that i felt obligated to make the distinction,
in writing, that my higher self is an entity within the ra social memory
complex, and that my male and female fifth-density selves, grandfather and
lucia, often facilitate the translation of this information, thus enabling
the contact to occur in a more conscious state.

hi david :) in making this distinction is it possible that there are many
entities in the ra social memory complex? do these complexes grow in number
as we go up the ladder of levels, densities? this brings to mind another
question, do we continue to channel the same beings from one lifetime to the
next, or possibly over different lifetimes? is it possible carla has
channelled ra before, or maybe not at all? my experience is entities on
the other side also have many names just as we have had across time in the
physical??!! z