multiple souls or not?

[michael grogan]

Does the Ra material discuss the existence of multiple souls in one
person simultaneously?

[E. Drake]

michael grogan <tropical@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=2vMezBwyKd-KtoPyJz0PV21jGCk3JU1HUajeG5afgPLtme_L71rt0Bb8dcU1O XZxqfhetsVUUpHZzxqCa6WIEg)> wrote: Does the Ra material discuss
the existence of multiple souls in one person simultaneously?



Drake: Perhaps to a certian extent, as in the case of Ra, as well as other
fused souls into one harmonic oneness in higher density. But I suspect that this
is certainly not to your question as to multiple souls in one person
simultaneously in 3D.

Same question in reverse: Does the RA Material discuss the existence of
multiple persons in one soul simultaneously, either in one life-time or more to
the point in many, in oneness time, i.e. reincarnation, as there is no time but
one time?

[* Zia]

"michael grogan": Does the Ra material discuss the existence of multiple
souls in one
person simultaneously?

HI Michael :) Not that I have found, and I have spent a couple of days
(when I had a moment) searching. I would like to see if I could 'divinely
reason' this question, and perhaps then something that could be found, would
be found :)

Multiple souls in one body could only occur in my humble opinion, when one
exists and another enters, such as a walk-in situation. Or when one has
left their body, and another enters briefly, this I have experienced, and
know to be possible, but no experience of two in one :) Even if two souls
are vying for a body, the result could be what we call twins. Since the
'soul' is determining the genetic selection, perhaps souls are also coming
in by choice together... very close together, yet still separate bodies :)

Which reminds me, Jesus had a twin. Thoma means twin, as does Didymus mean
twin... and the twin's name was Jude... thus Thomas Didymus Jude (or vice
versa) is 'twin twin Jude' :) This will be out in mainstream fairly soon :)

What is interesting is the concept of 'multiple personalities' and a movie
worth seeing regarding this is 'The Three Faces of Eve' (if I remember the
correct title... about Eve anyway :) One could wonder if there were
multiple souls with 'multiple personalities', as quite often at least two
personalities will not know of the other's existance, yet in such cases once
the additional personality/-ties has been determined to be created due to
traumatic events locked away, denying self, and those personalities dissolve
back from whence they came (the imagination), then it is self evident that
there is still only one soul.

The other interesting thought, is could we channel more than one Entity at a
time? It has been my experience that more than one entity can be present,
and the mind's incredibly fast processing of information through mental
telepathy would allow for multiple entities just like your television set
allows for multiple channel selection... only one does not have to turn the
knob or hit a button however. In fact it is very much like being present
with a group in a physical sense and being aware and receiving from
different people as each speaks in their turn :)

I personally wonder if one has a soul above 3d, since 3d and below is when
one is disconnected in a sense from the Creator, and Spirit is only accessed
through the Soul. 4d and above, one is aware of the Creator, and is
operating in an immortal body, thus one would wonder if there is a soulon
those higher levels??!! I also see our descent differently to what is
presented by RA (uh oh hope this does not qualify for not being allowed :)
in that the Creator would have created the vastness of the universe, and all
the logoi, and I believe the 7th through the 4th levels. Perhaps we got
stuck at the 4th level, not progressing. Then from the fourth (the garden
of Eden Level) our exit from the garden caused the split into
positive/negative (shattering at the light) engaging our holographic world
from 1d to 2d to 3d, at which point we make a choice/decision that allows
for the JUMP to 4d leaving the animal/plant/mineral bodies behind. Thus
while here in 3d I already exist in 4d through 7d, however in evolving back
through these densities of light I carry knowledge/wisdom of the 1 - 3d
experiences. In order to go to the next octave, one must in this Solar
System experience 1d - 3d and evolve back up the ladder 4d - 8d in order to
be harvested into the next octave of experiences. I am aware of entities
that exist in the higher densities that have NEVER been below 4th level in a
physical animal body, and yet must at some time do so in order to go to the
next octave. Perhaps there is some confusion here, yet I can only go by my
personal experiences :)

Input welcomed :) Z

[joanne esten]

Greetings Beloved Kin,

I myself have a multiple soul contract which was initiated prior to conception.
Usually multiple soul contracts are given under specific circumstances, and must
be agreed upon prior to birth.
If a person is to incarnate with a mission, or a agenda which reflects changes
in human evolution oftentimes permission is granted for extenuating
circumstances. I am a walk in, apparently walk ins transfer souls from one
physical body, after a preset event, walking out, the process of transfering
energy bodies takes 3 to 5 days depending on the status of the incoming soul
Disconnecting, and reconnecting energy bodies into the planetary holigram. I
was suppose to participate in the anchoring of ascension vibrational frequencies
into the planetary grid with my twin soul. She and I (male soul) walked in
together, and spent 11 years together working on ascension manifestation, and
spiritual growth and development. Namaste Divine

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Subject: RE: [asc2k] multiple souls or not?

"michael grogan": Does the Ra material discuss the existence of multiple
souls in one
person simultaneously?

HI Michael :) Not that I have found, and I have spent a couple of days
(when I had a moment) searching. I would like to see if I could 'divinely
reason' this question, and perhaps then something that could be found, would
be found :)

Multiple souls in one body could only occur in my humble opinion, when one
exists and another enters, such as a walk-in situation. Or when one has
left their body, and another enters briefly, this I have experienced, and
know to be possible, but no experience of two in one :) Even if two souls
are vying for a body, the result could be what we call twins. Since the
'soul' is determining the genetic selection, perhaps souls are also coming
in by choice together... very close together, yet still separate bodies :)

Which reminds me, Jesus had a twin. Thoma means twin, as does Didymus mean
twin... and the twin's name was Jude... thus Thomas Didymus Jude (or vice
versa) is 'twin twin Jude' :) This will be out in mainstream fairly soon :)

What is interesting is the concept of 'multiple personalities' and a movie
worth seeing regarding this is 'The Three Faces of Eve' (if I remember the
correct title... about Eve anyway :) One could wonder if there were
multiple souls with 'multiple personalities', as quite often at least two
personalities will not know of the other's existance, yet in such cases once
the additional personality/-ties has been determined to be created due to
traumatic events locked away, denying self, and those personalities dissolve
back from whence they came (the imagination), then it is self evident that
there is still only one soul.

The other interesting thought, is could we channel more than one Entity at a
time? It has been my experience that more than one entity can be present,
and the mind's incredibly fast processing of information through mental
telepathy would allow for multiple entities just like your television set
allows for multiple channel selection... only one does not have to turn the
knob or hit a button however. In fact it is very much like being present
with a group in a physical sense and being aware and receiving from
different people as each speaks in their turn :)

I personally wonder if one has a soul above 3d, since 3d and below is when
one is disconnected in a sense from the Creator, and Spirit is only accessed
through the Soul. 4d and above, one is aware of the Creator, and is
operating in an immortal body, thus one would wonder if there is a soulon
those higher levels??!! I also see our descent differently to what is
presented by RA (uh oh hope this does not qualify for not being allowed :)
in that the Creator would have created the vastness of the universe, and all
the logoi, and I believe the 7th through the 4th levels. Perhaps we got
stuck at the 4th level, not progressing. Then from the fourth (the garden
of Eden Level) our exit from the garden caused the split into
positive/negative (shattering at the light) engaging our holographic world
from 1d to 2d to 3d, at which point we make a choice/decision that allows
for the JUMP to 4d leaving the animal/plant/mineral bodies behind. Thus
while here in 3d I already exist in 4d through 7d, however in evolving back
through these densities of light I carry knowledge/wisdom of the 1 - 3d
experiences. In order to go to the next octave, one must in this Solar
System experience 1d - 3d and evolve back up the ladder 4d - 8d in order to
be harvested into the next octave of experiences. I am aware of entities
that exist in the higher densities that have NEVER been below 4th level in a
physical animal body, and yet must at some time do so in order to go to the
next octave. Perhaps there is some confusion here, yet I can only go by my
personal experiences :)

Input welcomed :) Z








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[* Zia]

joanne esten: I myself have a multiple soul contract which was initiated
prior to conception. Usually multiple soul contracts are given under
specific circumstances, and must be agreed upon prior to birth.
If a person is to incarnate with a mission, or a agenda which reflects
changes in human evolution oftentimes permission is granted for extenuating
circumstances. I am a walk in, apparently walk ins transfer souls from one
physical body, after a preset event, walking out, the process of transfering
energy bodies takes 3 to 5 days depending on the status of the incoming soul
Disconnecting, and reconnecting energy bodies into the planetary holigram.
I was suppose to participate in the anchoring of ascension vibrational
frequencies into the planetary grid with my twin soul. She and I (male
soul) walked in together, and spent 11 years together working on ascension
manifestation, and spiritual growth and development. Namaste Divine

Ahhh JOanne :) This does not feel like two souls incarnating or walking
into one body to me. Why? Because a walk-in is usually from a higher level
of cosnciousness than 3d. So let's say you are 4d, or 5d or whatever,
walking-into a 3d available body, made by agreement. Now please understand
I am simply speculating here, using my experiences and what resonates within
me :)

Within 4d/5d/6d whatever, we 'could be' male/female' combined, known as
androgynous. Or perhaps to some 'twin-flames' although personally that term
does not really resonate with me. Yet in splitting our energies at the
light level, 3d; what was ONE became two - positive and negative charged,
and a body and soul usually matching each of those charges, as two separate
bodies, male and female. Thus you COULD represent the union of those
charges, from 4d/5d/6d etc, and thus still be ONE SOUL, walking-into a 3d
negative or positive charge body.

You do say She and You (male soul) and thus only one soul, walked in
together above. What is also interesting is that a walk-in MUST complete
the lifepath plan for the soul that left, thus taking on its Karmas
(unfinished business) so to speak, and this can seriously challenge the
walk-in. Guess this is part of the agreement in handing over the body, its
gift back to the original owner perhaps in some way :)

There is a wonderful mystery about Jesus the Christ. Perhaps it is the
mystery of Christ Consciousness. I was told long ago that Jesus the Christ
came with 13 consciousnesses, not a soul at all! Now think about that
one!?!? Z