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Light Eye
01-12-2006, 09:53 AM
dear friends,


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be well, be love.

david
at last scientist are discovering the soul january 11th, 2006 thomas
herold-->by deepak chopra

think of a sunset? as soon as you see this image there is a binary code of
photons coding for that experience in your brain. think of a dark room with the
flame of a candle.

now if i were able to look inside your brain, there would be no candle there -
just a binary code of photons flickering on and off. the question is, where was
that image before i asked you to think of it? the point i am trying to make is
that when i ask you to envisage a sunset or a candle flame, before you remember
it that information is not in your brain. the information shows up in your brain
as soon as you have the intention to remember. so where was it before that? it
existed as potential in consciousness but it wasn?t in your brain.
my memories therefore are not in my brain. this is a very important point
because the reductionist model says our memories are in our brains. why does it
say that? because when the brain is damaged people have damaged memories -
whether through alzheimer?s disease, or a comatose state, or through
drunkenness.

but the argument is fallacious: it?s the same thing as saying my radio set is
damaged and no music is coming out, therefore the music must be manufactured by
my radio. the radio doesn?t manufacture the music; it only actualises the music.
my television set doesn?t manufacture all those people that i see inside the
box; it only actualises them from somewhere else. so, too, your brain is not the
source of your thoughts.

your brain is a quantum instrument that causes the collapse of wave functions
that exist as possibilities before you actualise them as space-time events. so
your brain takes possibilities and actualises them into space-time events. it?s
a quantum instrument that converts possibility into actuality. it takes the
unmanifest and makes it manifest, both in imagination and also as sensory
experience.





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* Zia
01-12-2006, 10:29 AM
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be well, be love.

david
at last scientist are discovering the soul january 11th, 2006 thomas
herold-->by deepak chopra

hi david :) fabulous that this is entering main stream thought, for not
only may the memories not be stored in the brain, rather all around us is
could be 'mind'! what we are thinking is viewable by psychics or perhaps a
better term, those using higher levels of consciousness, accessing what is
surrounding the body. perhaps we are walking and accessing a mind, a
'remote mind' that is a huge quantum database of not only potentials but
everything we see and experience as it is always constantly available, and
replayed according to our thought!. parallel realities horizontally in
time, and higher levels of consciousness and their realities vertically in
time.

perhaps our brain is a profound multi-processor to all levels of
consciousness, and all minds, with the database being the universe itself,
and our brain's processing speed 'instantaneous' being not governed by
time/distance/space when accessed through higher levels of consciousness. i
have personally observed the thoughts of other's coming out of their
forehead as they are talking, such as giving directions on how to reach a
destination, seeing the thoughts of their memories of specific landmarks
given, and then as i drive according to their instructions, i pass by
recognizing the houses in the pictures i saw coming from their brain
earlier! another astonishing thing is to stand in front of a painted
picture (an original) and 'see' the thoughts the painter had while painting
the picture. they record and stay with the picture! thus to paint pictures
long ago in 'rock' caves, those pictures still contain those thoughts of the
painter, for rocks hold a thought for a very long time!

imagine that we could spend five minutes (missing from 3d) and be spending 8
hours on another level of consciousness. ahh the mysteries of time :)

dancing within time to a different beat :) z

Petrus
01-12-2006, 06:09 PM
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interesting...some of this could be a theoretical basis for the proverbial
twelfth monkey story, as well as a number of paranormal abilities.

>your brain is a quantum instrument that causes the collapse of wave
functions that exist as possibilities before you actualise them as
space-time events. so your >brain takes possibilities and actualises them
into space-time events.

i don't believe this, personally. if this were true, i don't believe we'd
have anything like the degree of commonality that we do, because we'd all
each be living in a different universe with varying degrees of divergence.
i can go outside and have an experience which is felt by me and can be
viewed by another ten people in essentially exactly the same way, barring
minute physical differences in things such as where a person is standing,
etc.

i'm not saying i believe reality is always *exactly* what we think it
is...apart from anything else, i've read too many trip reports for that.
but i most certainly do not believe the holographic universe/each person in
their own universe stuff, either. as i said, if that was true, i would
expect to see a lot of stuff that we *don't* see.

smileyjaiy
01-13-2006, 04:09 PM
> interesting...some of this could be a theoretical basis for the
proverbial
> twelfth monkey story, as well as a number of paranormal abilities.
>
> >your brain is a quantum instrument that causes the collapse of wave
> functions that exist as possibilities before you actualise them as
> space-time events. so your >brain takes possibilities and actualises
them
> into space-time events.
>
> i don't believe this, personally. if this were true, i don't
believe we'd
> have anything like the degree of commonality that we do, because
we'd all
> each be living in a different universe with varying degrees of
divergence.
> i can go outside and have an experience which is felt by me and can be
> viewed by another ten people in essentially exactly the same way,
barring
> minute physical differences in things such as where a person is
standing,
> etc.

jaiyson: but you have to remember the only reason the 10 other people
are having similar experiences is because they have the same similar
instruments,eg. human body, that shapes the experience in a similar
fashion. a rock, a tree or even a mole do not experience the same
enviroment the same way because 'their' instruments are structured
differently. it really is as you make it and that depends upon what
you make it with.


>
> i'm not saying i believe reality is always *exactly* what we think it
> is...apart from anything else, i've read too many trip reports for that.
> but i most certainly do not believe the holographic universe/each
person in
> their own universe stuff, either. as i said, if that was true, i would
> expect to see a lot of stuff that we *don't* see.
>

Chris Hamilton
01-13-2006, 06:25 PM
>> >your brain is a quantum instrument that causes the collapse of wave
>> >functions that exist as possibilities before you actualise them as
>> >space-time events. so your >brain takes possibilities and actualises
>> >them into space-time events.
>>
>> i don't believe this, personally. if this were true, i don't believe
>> we'd have anything like the degree of commonality that we do, because
>> we'd all
>> each be living in a different universe with varying degrees of
>> divergence.

chris: petrus, i don't think you understood what was said in that
paragraph:) sometimes people are very poetic and some ideas become veiled to
us. can i try to explain what was meant? i hope so and i will try.

"your brain is a quantum instrument that causes the collapse of wave
functions that exist as possibilities before you actualise them as
space-time events".

chris: every thought we have is a possibility to exist in our 3d world, but
if we do not verbalize or physicalize them, then they will not become our
reality. it's like thinking, 'wow! that girl is hot', but not telling anyone
else your thought-it gets lost and not physicalized by others. so, only you
know that girl is hot, and it goes into the realm of fantasy :).

"so your brain takes possibilities and actualises them into space-time
events."

chris: by communicating with other 3d personalities, we make things real.
that's why other people are so important in 3d. we mirror each other and
help each other to see our 3d reality. according to loo, we are here to
learn this and to learn love, which is reality also.sometimes, like you, we
learn non-love, so we can understand love in it's infiniteness:).
you must understand that you are blessed here, because this will make you a
healer for others who have had your experiences? you must learn to perfect
your healing because you would be be fulfilling your creator's mission to
learn/teach this.

Jacob Almond
01-15-2006, 03:39 AM
chris:
>we mirror each other and help each other to see our 3d reality.

jake:
yep! it would not be possible to experience emotions/feelings without
somebody to 'share' them with.

that goes along with the whole story of why the 'singularity' split
itself up into seperate entities.
the cwg books express it as (paraphrasing):

*************
god exists.

god imagines love.

god realises that it is not possible to experience being loved
without 'something else' to love you.

god seperates into a seperate entity (and then a whole lot more!)

god realises that love cannot be forced and complete free will is the
only means of experiencing being loved.
*************

so yeah, you cannot see yourself without a mirror. and other people
are our mirrors.

cheers

jake