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David Wilcock
12-19-2000, 06:41 PM
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><font face="courier new" size="2">incidently this is not a critique jeremy, but there is all this talk about the others on this forum, but while there are
over sixty members yours is the only opinion besides david which i see outside of a few other inquiries here and
there. what do the rest of you think. am i off topic. if so just say so and i will shut up (incidently a week from
tommorow i will be gone anyway.... but i'll be back).</font>
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><font face="courier new" size="2">korga,</font>
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><font face="courier new" size="2">three people unsubscribed today. your attacks depress me. please leave us alone.</font>
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><font face="courier new" size="2">- david</font>
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korga@...
12-20-2000, 06:29 AM
> korga,
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> three people unsubscribed today. your attacks depress me. please leave us
alone.
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> - david

david,

honestly, i seriously do appologize if you feel that first i have been
attacking you. and if you feel this is
the cause of three people to leave the list i appologize again. that this has
depressed you depresses me. that
you would have me leave saddens me. it's difficult for me to really respond to
this because it has become
obvious that you no longer care to listen. it is strange to me how you could
have such a breadth of knowledge
and find what i have to say to be threatening. i suspect david that you may
have already begun the reifying
process and if there is but one thing that you take from me let it be to walk
the reification path with caution if at
all. you are on a wonderful track but its getting dangerous. seriously.
there's little more than i can say.

jeremy,

in light of david's mssg replying to yours may be a bit unneccessary, but
please remember that i never
claimed i was right and anyone was wrong, i merely said that no one (including
myself) was right. also i have
read all of david's material (printing it all out cost me so much toner) except
the whole ra study guide and when
ciii i'll read that as well. i'm not about debating with philosophers because
they do so without belief.
philosophy with those who believe is difficult because they tend not to see a
relation. but it does exist. to you
and to everyone on this list i suggest that you reread my posts to this forum
and truly determine what i have
said. the questions i've raised are of importance and that i won't be raising
them anymore does not mean you
shouldn't search for answers to them. in addition to this i leave a few words
from a previously ascended master
(david you might remember that i once sent you an email about a year ago to
check out the gospel of thomas,
you said you read it but your reply to my email hinted that you hadn't grasped
the breadth of it. if you get the
chance reread it. and read thinking and destiny to see the beauty of another
metaphor with a closer parallel).

the gospel of thomas was written transcribed by jesus' brother (mary's son)
didymous jude thomas. it is a
collection of esoteric sayings from jesus' life (many of which can be found in
the new testament). it was left out
of the bible specifically because of its difficult nature and because it was
thought that the people would not be
able to interpret the sayings. i post it here because the underlying topic of
it is ascension and indeed the
metaphysics of ascension. i hope you can see the relevence.

1) and he said, "whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not
experience death."
2) jesus said, "let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. when he
finds, he will become troubled.
when he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the all."
3) jesus said, "if those who lead you say, `see, the kingdom is in the sky,'
then the birds of the sky will precede
you. if they say to you, `it is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you.
rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and
it is outside of you. when you come to know yourselves, then you will become
known, and you will realize that it is
you who are the sons of the living father. but if you will not know yourselves,
you dwell in poverty and it is you
who are that poverty."
4) jesus said, "the man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child
seven days old about the place of life,
and he will live. for many who are first will become last, and they will become
one and the same."
5) jesus said, "recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from
you will become plain to you. for
there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."
6) his disciples questioned him and said to him, "do you want us to fast? how
shall we pray? shall we give
alms? what diet shall we observe?" jesus said, "do not tell lies, and do not do
what you hate, for all things are
plain in the sight of heaven. for nothing hidden will not become manifest, and
nothing covered will remain without
being uncovered."
7) jesus said, "blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man;
and cursed is the man whom
the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."
8) and he said, "the kingdom is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into
the sea and drew it up from the sea
full of small fish. among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. he
threw all the small fish back into the
sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. whoever has ears to hear, let
him hear."
9) jesus said, "now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and
scattered them. some fell on the road;
the birds came and gathered them up. others fell on the rock, did not take rood
in the soil, and did not produce
ears. and others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. and
others fell on the good soil
and produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per
measure."
10) jesus said, "i have cast fire upon the world, and see, i am guarding it
until it blazes."
11) jesus said, "this heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass
away. the dead are not alive, and the
living will not die. in the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it
what is alive. when you come to
dwell in the light, what will you do? on the day when you were one you became
two. but when you become two,
what will you do?"
12) the disciples said to jesus, "we know that you will depart from us. who is
to be our leader?" jesus said
to them, "wherever you are, you are to go to james the righteous, for whose sake
heaven and earth came into
being."
13) jesus said to his disciples, "compare me to someone and tell me whom i am
like." simon peter said to
him, "you are like a righteous angel." matthew said to him, "you are like a
wise philosopher." thomas
said to him, "master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like."
jesus said, "i am not your
master. because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated by the bubbling
spring which i have measured
out." and he took him and withdrew and told him three things. when thomas
returned to his companions,
they asked him, "what did jesus say to you?" thomas said to them, "if i
tell you one of the things which he
told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of
the stones and burn you up."
14) jesus said to them, "if you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves;
and if you pray, you will be
condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. when you go
into any land and walk about in
the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and heal
the sick among them. for what goes
into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your mouth - it
is that which will defile you."
15) jesus said, "when you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate
yourselves on your faces and worship
him. that one is your father."
16) jesus said, "men think, perhaps, that it is peace which i have come to cast
upon the world. they do not know
that it is dissension which i have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and
war. for there will be five in a
house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the
son, and the son against the
father. and they will stand solitary."
17) jesus said, "i shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has
heard and what no hand has touched
and what has never occurred to the human mind."
18) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us how our end will be." jesus
said, "have you discovered, then, the
beginning, that you look for the end? for where the beginning is, there will the
end be. blessed is he who will take
his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."
19) jesus said, "blessed is he who came into being before he came into being.
if you become my disciples and
listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. for there are five trees
for you in paradise which remain
undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. whoever becomes
acquainted with them will not
experience death."
20) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us what the kingdom of heaven is like."
he said to them, "it is like a
mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds. but when it falls on tilled soil, it
produces a great plant and becomes a
shelter for birds of the sky."
21) mary said to jesus, "whom are your disciples like?" he said, "they are
like children who have settled in a
field which is not theirs. when the owners of the field come, they will say,
`let us have back our field.' they (will)
undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and give it
back to them. therefore i say to
you, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his
vigil before he comes and will not let
him into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. you, then, be on your
guard against the world. arm
yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for
the difficulty which you expect will
(surely) materialize. let there be among you a man of understanding. when the
grain ripened, he came quickly
with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. whoever has ears to hear, let him
hear."
22) jesus saw infants being suckled. he said to his disciples, "these infants
being suckled are like those who
enter the kingdom." they said to him, "shall we then, as children, enter
the kingdom?" jesus said to
them, "when you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside
and the outside like the
inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female
one and the same, so that
the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the
place of an eye, and a hand in
place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a
likeness; then will you enter [the
kingdom]."
23) jesus said, "i shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten
thousand, and they shall stand as
a single one."
24) his disciples said to him, "show us the place where you are, since it is
necessary for us to seek it." he
said to them, "whoever has ears, let him hear. there is light within a man of
light, and he (or "it") lights up the
whole world. if he (or "it") does not shine, he (or "it") is darkness."
25) jesus said, "love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of
your eye."
26) jesus said, "you see the mote in your brothers eye, but you do not see the
beam in your own eye. when
you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the
mote from your brother's eye."
27) <jesus said,> "if you do not fast as regards the world, you will not find
the kingdom. if you do not observe
the sabbath as a sabbath, you will not see the father."
28) jesus said, "i took my place in the midst of the world, and i appeared to
them in the flesh. i found all of
them intoxicated; i found none of them thirsty. and my soul became afflicted for
the sons of men, because they
are blind in their hearts and do not have sight; for empty they came into the
world, and empty too they seek to
leave the world. but for the moment they are intoxicated. when they shake off
their wine, then they will repent."
29) jesus said, "if the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a
wonder. but if spirit came into being
because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. indeed, i am amazed at how this
great wealth has made its
home in this poverty."
30) jesus said, "where there are three gods, they are gods. where there are two
or one, i am with him."
31) jesus said, "no prophet is accepted in his own village; no physician heals
those who know him."
32) jesus said, "a city being built on a high mountain and fortified cannot
fall, nor can it be hidden."
33) jesus said, "preach from your housetops that which you will hear in your
ear {(and) in the other ear}. for no
one lights a lamp and puts it under a bushel, nor does he put it in a hidden
place, but rather he sets it on a
lampstand so that everyone who enters and leaves will see its light."
34) jesus said, "if a blind man leads a blind man, they will both fall into a
pit."
35) jesus said, "it is not possible for anyone to enter the house of a strong
man and take it by force unless he
binds his hands; then he will (be able to) ransack his house."
36) jesus said, "do not be concerned from morning until evening and from
evening until morning about what you
will wear."
37) his disciples said, "when will you become revealed to us and when shall we
see you?" jesus said, "when
you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them under
your feet like little children
and tread on them, then [will you see] the son of the living one, and you will
not be afraid"
38) jesus said, "many times have you desired to hear these words which i am
saying to you, and you have no
one else to hear them from. there will be days when you look for me and will not
find me."
39) jesus said, "the pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge
and hidden them. they
themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to.
you, however, be as wise as
serpents and as innocent as doves."
40) jesus said, "a grapevine has been planted outside of the father, but being
unsound, it will be pulled up by
its roots and destroyed."
41) jesus said, "whoever has something in his hand will receive more, and
whoever has nothing will be deprived
of even the little he has."
42) jesus said, "become passers-by."
43) his disciples said to him, "who are you, that you should say these things
to us?" <jesus said to them,>
"you do not realize who i am from what i say to you, but you have become like
the jews, for they (either) love
the tree and hate its fruit or love the fruit and hate the tree."
44) jesus said, "whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, and
whoever blasphemes against the
son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be
forgiven either on earth or in
heaven."
45) jesus said, "grapes are not harvested from thorns, nor are figs gathered
from thistles, for they do not
produce fruit. a good man brings forth good from his storehouse; an evil man
brings forth evil things from his evil
storehouse, which is in his heart, and says evil things. for out of the
abundance of the heart he brings forth evil
things."
46) jesus said, "among those born of women, from adam until john the baptist,
there is no one so superior to
john the baptist that his eyes should not be lowered (before him). yet i have
said whichever one of you comes to
be a child will be acquainted with the kingdom and will become superior to
john."
47) jesus said, "it is impossible for a man to mount two horses or to stretch
two bows. and it is impossible for a
servant to serve two masters; otherwise he will honor the one and treat the
other contemptuously. no man drinks
old wine and immediately desires to drink new wine. and new wine is not put into
old wineskins, lest they burst;
nor is old wine put into a new wineskin, lest it spoil it. an old patch is not
sewn onto a new garment, because a
tear would result."
48) jesus said, "if two make peace with each other in this one house, they will
say to the mountain, `move away,'
and it will move away."
49) jesus said, "blessed are the solitary and elect, for you will find the
kingdom. for you are from it, and to it
you will return."
50) jesus said, "if they say to you, `where did you come from?', say to them,
`we came from the light, the place
where the light came into being on its own accord and established [itself] and
became manifest through their
image.' if they say to you, `is it you?', say, `we are its children, we are the
elect of the living father.' if they ask
you, `what is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, `it is movement and
repose.'"
51) his disciples said to him, "when will the repose of the dead come about,
and when will the new world come?"
he said to them, "what you look forward to has already come, but you do not
recognize it."
52) his disciples said to him, "twenty-four prophets spoke in israel, and all
of them spoke in you." he said
to them, "you have omitted the one living in your presence and have spoken
(only) of the dead."
53) his disciples said to him, "is circumcision beneficial or not?" he
said to them, "if it were beneficial, their
father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. rather, the true
circumcision in spirit has become
completely profitable."
54) jesus said, "blessed are the poor, for yours is the kingdom of heaven."
55) jesus said, "whoever does not hate his father and his mother cannot become
a disciple to me. and whoever
does not hate his brothers and sisters and take up his cross in my way will not
be worthy of me."
56) jesus said, "whoever has come to understand the world has found (only) a
corpse, and whoever has found a
corpse is superior to the world."
57) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a man who had [good] seed.
his enemy came by night and
sowed weeds among the good seed. the man did not allow them to pull up the
weeds; he said to them, `i am
afraid that you will go intending to pull up the weeds and pull up the wheat
along with them.' for on the day of the
harvest the weeds will be plainly visible, and they will be pulled up and
burned."
58) jesus said, "blessed is the man who has suffered and found life."
59) jesus said, "take heed of the living one while you are alive, lest you die
and seek to see him and be
unable to do so."
60) <they saw> a samaritan carrying a lamb on his way to judea. he said to his
disciples, "(why does) that man
(carry) the lamb around?" they said to him, "so that he may kill it and eat
it." he said to them, "while it
is alive, he will not eat it, but only when he has killed it and it has become a
corpse." they said to him, "he
cannot do so otherwise." he said to them, "you too, look for a place for
yourself within the repose, lest you
become a corpse and be eaten."
61) jesus said, "two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and other will
live." salome said to him, "who are
you, man, that you, as though from the one, have come up on my couch and eaten
from my table?" jesus
said to her, "i am he who exists from the undivided. i was given some of the
things of my father." <salome
said,> "i am your disciple." <jesus said to her,> "therefore i say, if he
is <undivided>, he will be filled with
light, but if he is divided, he will be filled with darkness."
62) jesus said, "it is to those [who are worthy of my] mysteries that i tell my
mysteries. do not let your left hand
know what your right hand is doing."
63) jesus said, "there was a rich man who had much money. he said, `i shall put
my money to use so that i
may sow, reap, plant, and fill my storehouse with produce, with the result that
i shall lack nothing. such were his
intentions, but that same night he died. let him who has ears hear."
64) jesus said, "a man had received visitors. and when he had prepared the
dinner, he sent his servant to invite
guests. he went to the first one and said to him, "my master invites you.' he
said, `i have claims against some
merchants. they are coming to me this evening. i must go and give them my
orders. i ask to be excused from
the dinner.' he went to another and said, `my master has invited you.' he said
to him, `i have just bought a house
and am required for the day. i shall not have any spare time.' he went to
another and said to him, `my master
invites you.' he said to him, `my friend is going to get married, and i am to
prepare the banquet. i shall not be
able to come. i ask to be excused from the dinner.' he went to another and said
to him, `my master invites you.'
he said to him, `i have just bought a farm, and i am on my way to collect the
rent. i shall not be able to come. i
ask to be excused.' the servant returned and said to his master, `those whom you
invited to the dinner have
asked to be excused.' the master said to his servant, `go outside to the streets
and bring back those whom you
happen to meet, so that they may dine.' businessmen and merchants will not enter
the places of my father."
65) he said, "there was a good man who owned a vineyard. he leased it to tenant
farmers so that they might
work it and he might collect the produce from them. he sent his servant so that
the tenants might give him the
produce of the vineyard. they seized his servant and beat him, all but killing
him. the servant went back and told
his master. the master said, `perhaps <they> did not recognize <him>.' he sent
another servant. the tenants
beat this one as well. then the owner sent his son and said, `perhaps they will
show respect to my son.' because
the tenants knew that it was he who was the heir to the vineyard, they seized
him and killed him. let him who has
ears hear."
66) jesus said, "show me the stone which the builders have rejected. that one
is the cornerstone."
67) jesus said, "whoever believes that the all itself is deficient is (himself)
completely deficient."
68) jesus said, "blessed are you when you are hated and persecuted. wherever
you have been persecuted they
will find no place."
69) jesus said, "blessed are they who have been persecuted within themselves.
it is they who have truly come to
know the father. blessed are the hungry, for the belly of him who desires will
be filled."
70) jesus said, "if you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth
will save you. if you do not bring forth
what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."
71) jesus said, "i shall destroy [this] house, and no one will be able to
rebuild it."
72) [a man said] to him, "tell my brothers to divide my father's possessions
with me." he said to him, "o
man, who has made me a divider?" he turned to his disciples and said to
them, "i am not a divider, am i?"
73) jesus said, "the harvest is great but the laborers are few. beseech the
lord, therefore, to send out laborers
to the harvest."
74) he said, "o lord, there are many around the drinking trough, but there is
nothing in the cistern."
75) jesus said, "many are standing at the door, but it is the solitary who will
enter the bridal chamber."
76) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a merchant who had a
consignment of merchandise and who
discovered a pearl. that merchant was shrewd. he sold the merchandise and bought
the pearl alone for himself.
you too, seek his unfailing and enduring treasure where no moth comes near to
devour and no worm destroys."
77) jesus said, "it is i who am the light which is above them all. it is i who
am the all. from me did the all come
forth, and unto me did the all extend. split a piece of wood, and i am there.
lift up the stone, and you will find
me there."
78) jesus said, "why have you come out into the desert? to see a reed shaken by
the wind? and to see a man
clothed in fine garments like your kings and your great men? upon them are the
fine [garments], and they are
unable to discern the truth."
79) a woman from the crowd said to him, "blessed are the womb which bore you
and the breasts which nourished
you." he said to her, "blessed are those who have heard the word of the
father and have truly kept it. for
there will be days when you will say, `blessed are the womb which has not
conceived and the breasts which have
not given milk.'"
80) jesus said, "he who has recognized the world has found the body, but he who
has found the body is superior
to the world."
81) jesus said, "let him who has grown rich be king, and let him who possesses
power renounce it."
82) jesus said, "he who is near me is near the fire, and he who is far from me
is far from the kingdom."
83) jesus said, "the images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains
concealed in the image of the
light of the father. he will become manifest, but his image will remain
concealed by his light."
84) jesus said, "when you see your likeness, you rejoice. but when you see your
images which came into being
before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to
bear!"
85) jesus said, "adam came into being from a great power and a great wealth,
but he did not become worthy of
you. for had he been worthy, [he would] not [have experienced] death."
86) jesus said, "[the foxes have their holes] and the birds have [their] nests,
but the son of man has no place
to lay his head and rest."
87) jesus said, "wretched is the body that is dependant upon a body, and
wretched is the soul that is dependent
on these two."
88) jesus said, "the angels and the prophets will come to you and give you
those things you (already) have.
and you too, give them those things which you have, and say to yourselves, `when
will they come and take what
is theirs?'"
89) jesus said, "why do you wash the outside of the cup? do you not realize
that he who made he inside is the
same one who made the outside?"
90) jesus said, "come unto me, for my yoke is easy and my lordship is mild, and
you will find repose for
yourselves."
91) they said to him, "tell us who you are so that we may believe in you."
he said to them, "you read the
face of the sky and of the earth, but you have not recognized the one who is
before you, and you do not know
how to read this moment."
92) jesus said, "seek and you will find. yet, what you asked me about in former
times and which i did not tell
you then, now i do desire to tell, but you do not enquire after it."
93) <jesus said,> "do not give what is holy to dogs, lest they throw them on
the dung-heap. do not throw the
pearls to swine, lest they grind it [to bits]."
94) jesus [said], "he who seeks will find, and [he who knocks] will be let in."
95) [jesus said,] "if you have money, do not lend it at interest, but give [it]
to one from whom you will not get it
back."
96) jesus [said], "the kingdom of the father is like a certain woman. she took
a little leaven, [concealed] it in
some dough, and made it into large loaves. let him who has ears hear."
97) jesus said, "the kingdom of the [father] is like a certain woman who was
carrying a jar full of meal. while
she was walking [on] a road, still some distance from home, the handle of the
jar broke and the meal emptied
out behind her on the road. she did not realize it; she had noticed no accident.
when she reached her house, she
set the jar down and found it empty."
98) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a certain man who wanted to
kill a powerful man. in his own
house he drew his sword and stuck it into the wall in order to find out whether
his hand could carry through. then
he slew the powerful man."
99) the disciples said to him, "your brothers and your mother are standing
outside." he said to them,
"those here who do the will of my father are my brothers and my mother. it is
they who will enter the kingdom of
my father."
100) they showed jesus a gold coin and said to him, "caesar's men demand taxes
from us." he said to
them, "give caesar what belongs to caesar, give god what belongs to god, and
give me what is mine."
101) <jesus said,> "whoever does not hate his father and his mother as i do
cannot become a disciple to me.
and whoever does [not] love his father and his mother as i do cannot become a
[disciple] to me. for my mother
[gave me falsehood], but [my] true [mother] gave me life."
102) jesus said, "woe to the pharisees, for they are like a dog sleeping in the
manger of oxen, for neither does
he eat nor does he let the oxen eat."
103) jesus said, "fortunate is the man who knows where the brigands will enter,
so that he may get up, muster
his domain, and arm himself before they invade."
104) they said [to jesus], "come, let us pray today and let us fast." jesus
said, "what is the sin that i have
committed, or wherein have i been defeated? but when the bridegroom leaves the
bridal chamber, then let them
fast and pray."
105) jesus said, "he who knows the father and the mother will be called the son
of a harlot."
106) jesus said, "when you make the two one, you will become the sons of man,
and when you say, `mountain,
move away,' it will move away."
107) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep. one of
them, the largest, went
astray. he left the ninety-nine sheep and looked for that one until he found it.
when he had gone to such
trouble, he said to the sheep, `i care for you more than the ninety-nine.'"
108) jesus said, "he who will drink from my mouth will become like me. i myself
shall become he, and the things
that are hidden will become revealed to him."
109) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a man who had a [hidden] treasure in his
field without knowing it. and
[after] he died, he left it to his son. the son did not know (about the
treasure). he inherited the field and sold
[it]. and the one who bought it went plowing and found the treasure. he began to
lend money at interest to
whomever he wished."
110) jesus said, "whoever finds the world and becomes rich, let him renounce the
world."
111) jesus said, "the heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your presence.
and one who lives from the living
one will not see death." does not jesus say, "whoever finds himself is superior
to the world?"
112) jesus said, "woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the soul
that depends on the flesh."
113) his disciples said to him, "when will the kingdom come?" <jesus said,>
"it will not come by waiting for it.
it will not be a matter of saying `here it is' or `there it is.' rather, the
kingdom of the father is spread out upon
the earth, and men do not see it."
114) simon peter said to him, "let mary leave us, for women are not worthy of
life." jesus said, "i myself
shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living
spirit resembling you males. for
every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

i wish you all well. and may you see the path that has you destined to ascend.

incarnations
korga

David Wilcock
12-20-2000, 08:07 AM
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><font face="arial" size="2">soul who has named itself korga for internet purposes and all others, </font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">i am not a savior to anyone and don't want to be. i f---ed this one up pretty good. let that stand as a testament to the fact that i'm not an ascended being, but still on my path as everyone else. and i think that in net-land you've all seen a dramatized version of a huge spiritual struggle that i am undergoing, which i finally understand and am prepared to move through to a higher level of myself. </font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">i was definitely acting from the "monkey mind" to play god and issue a blanket condemnation such as that. people should have their free will to say what they want to say on this list. i apologize. all i can change is how i respond and how much priority it gets.as you'll see in the most recent posted reading, ihave truly been going through a crisis of the soul and it wasgetting dramatic - insomnia for more thana week and my health was failing, too exhausted to cry. i'm more dependent on the presence of others like sabrina than i let myself realize. i think i've pulled out of the worst of it already but yesterday i was at the complete end of my rope. let me explain the reasons.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">my experience has been that i only have received about five to eight challenging emails in the entire time that i have done this website. seriously. and most of themhave written from such a simplistic, judgmentalspace that eventually i would just laugh it off.most of those people would be honored by a response from me and they would become friends of mine in the end, even book readings.but at the outset,each time i received one, it could set me off for up to two days straight, unable to function. sabrina's presence lessened that, but she's not here until the 28th, 12 hours before i've got to go on my enforced vacation. and my normal reaction has been, "if someone is a problem, give them your time, write a nice letter and the pain will stop." well, guess what. my divorced child didn't reconcile this and i've been hurting myself instead of refraining from battle. our family is going to be dysfunctional forever if this is a public list, and i can't care one whit about it - each person must decide if they want to receive this every day. </font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">so the crisis hits town, i'd pour my heart out, somewhat relieved by the fact that others could see the fruit of my efforts, and then another passive-aggressive email would come in that would start out nicely enough, telling me that i am a beautiful writer, and then contort into all sorts of misstatements about who i am and what this site is about.i cannot, and must not, give my energy to these things. and if i am about to bump up a major popularity level, i've got to totally get over this kind of stuff now while it's still a dull roar.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">really i just can't continue to participate, good or bad, if i want to get this book finished.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">i don't dislike you as a person and i certainly have heard the points that you are trying to make. the main reason why i didn't want to go with an email group in the beginning of all this was because of the potential for it to just turn into an endless flood of flame wars clogging my inbox. but that's something that anyone must be willing to accept as a possibility.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">i have decided to set up my email program to route all asc2k posts into a separate folder so that i am not feeling so overwhelmed and can still maintain my normal flow of correspondence, which is mammoth enough by itself.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">pythagoras condemned a student once and that student immediately plunged off a cliff to his death. the lesson that was supposed to have been learned was "never condemn another." i apologize for having not remembered that lesson this time. what i call attacks are actually part of a bizarre metaphysical process that i am going through, enunciated in the reading i posted, that is all about the "killing off" of my ego self for good, to be hollowed out and replaced with unity. so what you heard was a death cry of the me that will no longer be. i have pledged to implement the suggestions of that reading already - and it should be up on the site later today.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">i apologize to all for my insolent behavior. this monkey won't be posting anymore. until i get sober enough to be who i truly am i'm not going to write anything more.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">peace be with you -</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">- david</font>
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style="font: 10pt arial">sent: wednesday, december 20, 2000 9:29 am
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<tt>> korga,
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> three people unsubscribed today. your attacks depress me. please leave us alone.
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> - david

david,

honestly, i seriously do appologize if you feel that first i have been attacking you. and if you feel this is
the cause of three people to leave the list i appologize again. that this has depressed you depresses me. that
you would have me leave saddens me. it's difficult for me to really respond to this because it has become
obvious that you no longer care to listen. it is strange to me how you could have such a breadth of knowledge
and find what i have to say to be threatening. i suspect david that you may have already begun the reifying
process and if there is but one thing that you take from me let it be to walk the reification path with caution if at
all. you are on a wonderful track but its getting dangerous. seriously. there's little more than i can say.

jeremy,

in light of david's mssg replying to yours may be a bit unneccessary, but please remember that i never
claimed i was right and anyone was wrong, i merely said that no one (including myself) was right. also i have
read all of david's material (printing it all out cost me so much toner) except the whole ra study guide and when
ciii i'll read that as well. i'm not about debating with philosophers because they do so without belief.
philosophy with those who believe is difficult because they tend not to see a relation. but it does exist. to you
and to everyone on this list i suggest that you reread my posts to this forum and truly determine what i have
said. the questions i've raised are of importance and that i won't be raising them anymore does not mean you
shouldn't search for answers to them. in addition to this i leave a few words from a previously ascended master
(david you might remember that i once sent you an email about a year ago to check out the gospel of thomas,
you said you read it but your reply to my email hinted that you hadn't grasped the breadth of it. if you get the
chance reread it. and read thinking and destiny to see the beauty of another metaphor with a closer parallel).

the gospel of thomas was written transcribed by jesus' brother (mary's son) didymous jude thomas. it is a
collection of esoteric sayings from jesus' life (many of which can be found in the new testament). it was left out
of the bible specifically because of its difficult nature and because it was thought that the people would not be
able to interpret the sayings. i post it here because the underlying topic of it is ascension and indeed the
metaphysics of ascension. i hope you can see the relevence.

1) and he said, "whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."
2) jesus said, "let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. when he finds, he will become troubled.
when he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the all."
3) jesus said, "if those who lead you say, `see, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede
you. if they say to you, `it is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and
it is outside of you. when you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is
you who are the sons of the living father. but if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you
who are that poverty."
4) jesus said, "the man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life,
and he will live. for many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."
5) jesus said, "recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you. for
there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."
6) his disciples questioned him and said to him, "do you want us to fast? how shall we pray? shall we give
alms? what diet shall we observe?" jesus said, "do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are
plain in the sight of heaven. for nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without
being uncovered."
7) jesus said, "blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom
the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."
8) and he said, "the kingdom is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea
full of small fish. among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. he threw all the small fish back into the
sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
9) jesus said, "now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them. some fell on the road;
the birds came and gathered them up. others fell on the rock, did not take rood in the soil, and did not produce
ears. and others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. and others fell on the good soil
and produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."
10) jesus said, "i have cast fire upon the world, and see, i am guarding it until it blazes."
11) jesus said, "this heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. the dead are not alive, and the
living will not die. in the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. when you come to
dwell in the light, what will you do? on the day when you were one you became two. but when you become two,
what will you do?"
12) the disciples said to jesus, "we know that you will depart from us. who is to be our leader?" jesus said
to them, "wherever you are, you are to go to james the righteous, for whose sake heaven and earth came into
being."
13) jesus said to his disciples, "compare me to someone and tell me whom i am like." simon peter said to
him, "you are like a righteous angel." matthew said to him, "you are like a wise philosopher." thomas
said to him, "master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like." jesus said, "i am not your
master. because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated by the bubbling spring which i have measured
out." and he took him and withdrew and told him three things. when thomas returned to his companions,
they asked him, "what did jesus say to you?" thomas said to them, "if i tell you one of the things which he
told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."
14) jesus said to them, "if you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves; and if you pray, you will be
condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. when you go into any land and walk about in
the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and heal the sick among them. for what goes
into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your mouth - it is that which will defile you."
15) jesus said, "when you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship
him. that one is your father."
16) jesus said, "men think, perhaps, that it is peace which i have come to cast upon the world. they do not know
that it is dissension which i have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. for there will be five in a
house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the
father. and they will stand solitary."
17) jesus said, "i shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched
and what has never occurred to the human mind."
18) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us how our end will be." jesus said, "have you discovered, then, the
beginning, that you look for the end? for where the beginning is, there will the end be. blessed is he who will take
his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."
19) jesus said, "blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. if you become my disciples and
listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. for there are five trees for you in paradise which remain
undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. whoever becomes acquainted with them will not
experience death."
20) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us what the kingdom of heaven is like." he said to them, "it is like a
mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds. but when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a great plant and becomes a
shelter for birds of the sky."
21) mary said to jesus, "whom are your disciples like?" he said, "they are like children who have settled in a
field which is not theirs. when the owners of the field come, they will say, `let us have back our field.' they (will)
undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and give it back to them. therefore i say to
you, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his vigil before he comes and will not let
him into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. you, then, be on your guard against the world. arm
yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for the difficulty which you expect will
(surely) materialize. let there be among you a man of understanding. when the grain ripened, he came quickly
with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
22) jesus saw infants being suckled. he said to his disciples, "these infants being suckled are like those who
enter the kingdom." they said to him, "shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?" jesus said to
them, "when you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the
inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that
the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in
place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter [the
kingdom]."
23) jesus said, "i shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten thousand, and they shall stand as
a single one."
24) his disciples said to him, "show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it." he
said to them, "whoever has ears, let him hear. there is light within a man of light, and he (or "it") lights up the
whole world. if he (or "it") does not shine, he (or "it") is darkness."
25) jesus said, "love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye."
26) jesus said, "you see the mote in your brothers eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. when
you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye."
27) <jesus said,> "if you do not fast as regards the world, you will not find the kingdom. if you do not observe
the sabbath as a sabbath, you will not see the father."
28) jesus said, "i took my place in the midst of the world, and i appeared to them in the flesh. i found all of
them intoxicated; i found none of them thirsty. and my soul became afflicted for the sons of men, because they
are blind in their hearts and do not have sight; for empty they came into the world, and empty too they seek to
leave the world. but for the moment they are intoxicated. when they shake off their wine, then they will repent."
29) jesus said, "if the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. but if spirit came into being
because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. indeed, i am amazed at how this great wealth has made its
home in this poverty."
30) jesus said, "where there are three gods, they are gods. where there are two or one, i am with him."
31) jesus said, "no prophet is accepted in his own village; no physician heals those who know him."
32) jesus said, "a city being built on a high mountain and fortified cannot fall, nor can it be hidden."
33) jesus said, "preach from your housetops that which you will hear in your ear {(and) in the other ear}. for no
one lights a lamp and puts it under a bushel, nor does he put it in a hidden place, but rather he sets it on a
lampstand so that everyone who enters and leaves will see its light."
34) jesus said, "if a blind man leads a blind man, they will both fall into a pit."
35) jesus said, "it is not possible for anyone to enter the house of a strong man and take it by force unless he
binds his hands; then he will (be able to) ransack his house."
36) jesus said, "do not be concerned from morning until evening and from evening until morning about what you
will wear."
37) his disciples said, "when will you become revealed to us and when shall we see you?" jesus said, "when
you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them under your feet like little children
and tread on them, then [will you see] the son of the living one, and you will not be afraid"
38) jesus said, "many times have you desired to hear these words which i am saying to you, and you have no
one else to hear them from. there will be days when you look for me and will not find me."
39) jesus said, "the pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge and hidden them. they
themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. you, however, be as wise as
serpents and as innocent as doves."
40) jesus said, "a grapevine has been planted outside of the father, but being unsound, it will be pulled up by
its roots and destroyed."
41) jesus said, "whoever has something in his hand will receive more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived
of even the little he has."
42) jesus said, "become passers-by."
43) his disciples said to him, "who are you, that you should say these things to us?" <jesus said to them,>
"you do not realize who i am from what i say to you, but you have become like the jews, for they (either) love
the tree and hate its fruit or love the fruit and hate the tree."
44) jesus said, "whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the
son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven either on earth or in
heaven."
45) jesus said, "grapes are not harvested from thorns, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they do not
produce fruit. a good man brings forth good from his storehouse; an evil man brings forth evil things from his evil
storehouse, which is in his heart, and says evil things. for out of the abundance of the heart he brings forth evil
things."
46) jesus said, "among those born of women, from adam until john the baptist, there is no one so superior to
john the baptist that his eyes should not be lowered (before him). yet i have said whichever one of you comes to
be a child will be acquainted with the kingdom and will become superior to john."
47) jesus said, "it is impossible for a man to mount two horses or to stretch two bows. and it is impossible for a
servant to serve two masters; otherwise he will honor the one and treat the other contemptuously. no man drinks
old wine and immediately desires to drink new wine. and new wine is not put into old wineskins, lest they burst;
nor is old wine put into a new wineskin, lest it spoil it. an old patch is not sewn onto a new garment, because a
tear would result."
48) jesus said, "if two make peace with each other in this one house, they will say to the mountain, `move away,'
and it will move away."
49) jesus said, "blessed are the solitary and elect, for you will find the kingdom. for you are from it, and to it
you will return."
50) jesus said, "if they say to you, `where did you come from?', say to them, `we came from the light, the place
where the light came into being on its own accord and established [itself] and became manifest through their
image.' if they say to you, `is it you?', say, `we are its children, we are the elect of the living father.' if they ask
you, `what is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, `it is movement and repose.'"
51) his disciples said to him, "when will the repose of the dead come about, and when will the new world come?"
he said to them, "what you look forward to has already come, but you do not recognize it."
52) his disciples said to him, "twenty-four prophets spoke in israel, and all of them spoke in you." he said
to them, "you have omitted the one living in your presence and have spoken (only) of the dead."
53) his disciples said to him, "is circumcision beneficial or not?" he said to them, "if it were beneficial, their
father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become
completely profitable."
54) jesus said, "blessed are the poor, for yours is the kingdom of heaven."
55) jesus said, "whoever does not hate his father and his mother cannot become a disciple to me. and whoever
does not hate his brothers and sisters and take up his cross in my way will not be worthy of me."
56) jesus said, "whoever has come to understand the world has found (only) a corpse, and whoever has found a
corpse is superior to the world."
57) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a man who had [good] seed. his enemy came by night and
sowed weeds among the good seed. the man did not allow them to pull up the weeds; he said to them, `i am
afraid that you will go intending to pull up the weeds and pull up the wheat along with them.' for on the day of the
harvest the weeds will be plainly visible, and they will be pulled up and burned."
58) jesus said, "blessed is the man who has suffered and found life."
59) jesus said, "take heed of the living one while you are alive, lest you die and seek to see him and be
unable to do so."
60) <they saw> a samaritan carrying a lamb on his way to judea. he said to his disciples, "(why does) that man
(carry) the lamb around?" they said to him, "so that he may kill it and eat it." he said to them, "while it
is alive, he will not eat it, but only when he has killed it and it has become a corpse." they said to him, "he
cannot do so otherwise." he said to them, "you too, look for a place for yourself within the repose, lest you
become a corpse and be eaten."
61) jesus said, "two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and other will live." salome said to him, "who are
you, man, that you, as though from the one, have come up on my couch and eaten from my table?" jesus
said to her, "i am he who exists from the undivided. i was given some of the things of my father." <salome
said,> "i am your disciple." <jesus said to her,> "therefore i say, if he is <undivided>, he will be filled with
light, but if he is divided, he will be filled with darkness."
62) jesus said, "it is to those [who are worthy of my] mysteries that i tell my mysteries. do not let your left hand
know what your right hand is doing."
63) jesus said, "there was a rich man who had much money. he said, `i shall put my money to use so that i
may sow, reap, plant, and fill my storehouse with produce, with the result that i shall lack nothing. such were his
intentions, but that same night he died. let him who has ears hear."
64) jesus said, "a man had received visitors. and when he had prepared the dinner, he sent his servant to invite
guests. he went to the first one and said to him, "my master invites you.' he said, `i have claims against some
merchants. they are coming to me this evening. i must go and give them my orders. i ask to be excused from
the dinner.' he went to another and said, `my master has invited you.' he said to him, `i have just bought a house
and am required for the day. i shall not have any spare time.' he went to another and said to him, `my master
invites you.' he said to him, `my friend is going to get married, and i am to prepare the banquet. i shall not be
able to come. i ask to be excused from the dinner.' he went to another and said to him, `my master invites you.'
he said to him, `i have just bought a farm, and i am on my way to collect the rent. i shall not be able to come. i
ask to be excused.' the servant returned and said to his master, `those whom you invited to the dinner have
asked to be excused.' the master said to his servant, `go outside to the streets and bring back those whom you
happen to meet, so that they may dine.' businessmen and merchants will not enter the places of my father."
65) he said, "there was a good man who owned a vineyard. he leased it to tenant farmers so that they might
work it and he might collect the produce from them. he sent his servant so that the tenants might give him the
produce of the vineyard. they seized his servant and beat him, all but killing him. the servant went back and told
his master. the master said, `perhaps <they> did not recognize <him>.' he sent another servant. the tenants
beat this one as well. then the owner sent his son and said, `perhaps they will show respect to my son.' because
the tenants knew that it was he who was the heir to the vineyard, they seized him and killed him. let him who has
ears hear."
66) jesus said, "show me the stone which the builders have rejected. that one is the cornerstone."
67) jesus said, "whoever believes that the all itself is deficient is (himself) completely deficient."
68) jesus said, "blessed are you when you are hated and persecuted. wherever you have been persecuted they
will find no place."
69) jesus said, "blessed are they who have been persecuted within themselves. it is they who have truly come to
know the father. blessed are the hungry, for the belly of him who desires will be filled."
70) jesus said, "if you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. if you do not bring forth
what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."
71) jesus said, "i shall destroy [this] house, and no one will be able to rebuild it."
72) [a man said] to him, "tell my brothers to divide my father's possessions with me." he said to him, "o
man, who has made me a divider?" he turned to his disciples and said to them, "i am not a divider, am i?"
73) jesus said, "the harvest is great but the laborers are few. beseech the lord, therefore, to send out laborers
to the harvest."
74) he said, "o lord, there are many around the drinking trough, but there is nothing in the cistern."
75) jesus said, "many are standing at the door, but it is the solitary who will enter the bridal chamber."
76) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a merchant who had a consignment of merchandise and who
discovered a pearl. that merchant was shrewd. he sold the merchandise and bought the pearl alone for himself.
you too, seek his unfailing and enduring treasure where no moth comes near to devour and no worm destroys."
77) jesus said, "it is i who am the light which is above them all. it is i who am the all. from me did the all come
forth, and unto me did the all extend. split a piece of wood, and i am there. lift up the stone, and you will find
me there."
78) jesus said, "why have you come out into the desert? to see a reed shaken by the wind? and to see a man
clothed in fine garments like your kings and your great men? upon them are the fine [garments], and they are
unable to discern the truth."
79) a woman from the crowd said to him, "blessed are the womb which bore you and the breasts which nourished
you." he said to her, "blessed are those who have heard the word of the father and have truly kept it. for
there will be days when you will say, `blessed are the womb which has not conceived and the breasts which have
not given milk.'"
80) jesus said, "he who has recognized the world has found the body, but he who has found the body is superior
to the world."
81) jesus said, "let him who has grown rich be king, and let him who possesses power renounce it."
82) jesus said, "he who is near me is near the fire, and he who is far from me is far from the kingdom."
83) jesus said, "the images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the
light of the father. he will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."
84) jesus said, "when you see your likeness, you rejoice. but when you see your images which came into being
before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!"
85) jesus said, "adam came into being from a great power and a great wealth, but he did not become worthy of
you. for had he been worthy, [he would] not [have experienced] death."
86) jesus said, "[the foxes have their holes] and the birds have [their] nests, but the son of man has no place
to lay his head and rest."
87) jesus said, "wretched is the body that is dependant upon a body, and wretched is the soul that is dependent
on these two."
88) jesus said, "the angels and the prophets will come to you and give you those things you (already) have.
and you too, give them those things which you have, and say to yourselves, `when will they come and take what
is theirs?'"
89) jesus said, "why do you wash the outside of the cup? do you not realize that he who made he inside is the
same one who made the outside?"
90) jesus said, "come unto me, for my yoke is easy and my lordship is mild, and you will find repose for
yourselves."
91) they said to him, "tell us who you are so that we may believe in you." he said to them, "you read the
face of the sky and of the earth, but you have not recognized the one who is before you, and you do not know
how to read this moment."
92) jesus said, "seek and you will find. yet, what you asked me about in former times and which i did not tell
you then, now i do desire to tell, but you do not enquire after it."
93) <jesus said,> "do not give what is holy to dogs, lest they throw them on the dung-heap. do not throw the
pearls to swine, lest they grind it [to bits]."
94) jesus [said], "he who seeks will find, and [he who knocks] will be let in."
95) [jesus said,] "if you have money, do not lend it at interest, but give [it] to one from whom you will not get it
back."
96) jesus [said], "the kingdom of the father is like a certain woman. she took a little leaven, [concealed] it in
some dough, and made it into large loaves. let him who has ears hear."
97) jesus said, "the kingdom of the [father] is like a certain woman who was carrying a jar full of meal. while
she was walking [on] a road, still some distance from home, the handle of the jar broke and the meal emptied
out behind her on the road. she did not realize it; she had noticed no accident. when she reached her house, she
set the jar down and found it empty."
98) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a certain man who wanted to kill a powerful man. in his own
house he drew his sword and stuck it into the wall in order to find out whether his hand could carry through. then
he slew the powerful man."
99) the disciples said to him, "your brothers and your mother are standing outside." he said to them,
"those here who do the will of my father are my brothers and my mother. it is they who will enter the kingdom of
my father."
100) they showed jesus a gold coin and said to him, "caesar's men demand taxes from us." he said to
them, "give caesar what belongs to caesar, give god what belongs to god, and give me what is mine."
101) <jesus said,> "whoever does not hate his father and his mother as i do cannot become a disciple to me.
and whoever does [not] love his father and his mother as i do cannot become a [disciple] to me. for my mother
[gave me falsehood], but [my] true [mother] gave me life."
102) jesus said, "woe to the pharisees, for they are like a dog sleeping in the manger of oxen, for neither does
he eat nor does he let the oxen eat."
103) jesus said, "fortunate is the man who knows where the brigands will enter, so that he may get up, muster
his domain, and arm himself before they invade."
104) they said [to jesus], "come, let us pray today and let us fast." jesus said, "what is the sin that i have
committed, or wherein have i been defeated? but when the bridegroom leaves the bridal chamber, then let them
fast and pray."
105) jesus said, "he who knows the father and the mother will be called the son of a harlot."
106) jesus said, "when you make the two one, you will become the sons of man, and when you say, `mountain,
move away,' it will move away."
107) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep. one of them, the largest, went
astray. he left the ninety-nine sheep and looked for that one until he found it. when he had gone to such
trouble, he said to the sheep, `i care for you more than the ninety-nine.'"
108) jesus said, "he who will drink from my mouth will become like me. i myself shall become he, and the things
that are hidden will become revealed to him."
109) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a man who had a [hidden] treasure in his field without knowing it. and
[after] he died, he left it to his son. the son did not know (about the treasure). he inherited the field and sold
[it]. and the one who bought it went plowing and found the treasure. he began to lend money at interest to
whomever he wished."
110) jesus said, "whoever finds the world and becomes rich, let him renounce the world."
111) jesus said, "the heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your presence. and one who lives from the living
one will not see death." does not jesus say, "whoever finds himself is superior to the world?"
112) jesus said, "woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the soul that depends on the flesh."
113) his disciples said to him, "when will the kingdom come?" <jesus said,> "it will not come by waiting for it.
it will not be a matter of saying `here it is' or `there it is.' rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon
the earth, and men do not see it."
114) simon peter said to him, "let mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." jesus said, "i myself
shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. for
every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

i wish you all well. and may you see the path that has you destined to ascend.

incarnations
korga


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12-20-2000, 08:33 AM
i personally found this whole episode to be very interesting and
thought-provoking. definetly not in a bad way mind you, but in an
enlightening sort of way. i myself am a researcher in metaphysics and
genetics and i find it very important that people realize that each one of
us is human and that we do in fact carry the baggage of mankind's previous
forms. dna does not metamorphosize, but continually builds upon itself.
i found david's self-realization and inward view to be very inspiring.
often, i've seen spiritual leaders and thinkers deny the fact they are
formed from the same genetic pool that all mankind is. even i have
struggled with that from time to time. it is hard not to consider
yourself separate or better than others after you've had an awakening, but
maybe that's just the first pitfall that awaits us after revelation.

i also appreciate david's acceptance that others may have a different path
to ascension. every person i have talked to that have reached the same
point as me have come from a different place and along a different route.
i personally belive all teachers and enlightened minds are given their
gifts to be a catalyst to change, not to be the change themselves.
through writing i have found that invoking ideas and emotions is one
hundred times as powerful as attempting to define or explain the path.
each of us has the way and means coded into our dna; it's just
our job to inspire people to look for it. this was essentially every
great master's message: inspire people to find their own way through the
example of your life.

a last note: only through challenge do we prevent stagnation.

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Jeremy Weiland
12-20-2000, 08:44 AM
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><font face="arial" size="2">david (and others),</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> i am overjoyed, literally overjoyed, that you have been able to make this decision. it takes quite a lot of courage to stand silent in the face of adversity or attacks (if they are perceived that way) and you have definately shown yourself to be a humble teacher of the law of one.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> you have had and will continue to have my prayers in the coming days and weeks as this list makes it way through a most difficult period. let me just throw out there the idea that this is a completely normal situation for a mailing list to go thru and we are not an exception to the rule. the only difference between this list and most others is that the effective subject of this list (david) was taking part in the discussion, which actually is a recipe for disaster imho.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> i would much ratherget rid completelyof this discussion list than have it impede david's work in any way. that is the complete opposite of the effect that this list is supposed to have; it's *supposed* to be futhering david's work. and so, although i will miss such a frequent contact with david, if it's for the best i think it's extremely wise and shows remarkable restraint for david to refrain from posting on the list, or from reading the discussions here.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> once again let me reiterate, to all you who have been watching this whole thing: this is a completely normal situation for a mailing list to go thru. we are not immune to the flames and email wars that plague other lists, nor should we expect that nothing like this will ever happen again. i have suggested some guidelines for posting, not because i think these should be the hard fast rules for this list, but because i think they generate the best discussion for furthering an understanding of david's work. however, i am not the head honcho here nordo ipretend tobe. we'll get through this.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> thank you david for all the work, grief, and internal stress you've had to endure. it *is* very sincerely appreciated and i am very proud of what you have accomplished and of what the future holds you you, your work, and all of us. i think this list can be a very positive thing, so let's not give up on it right away.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> please, lurkers, if you have questions / items for discussion, post!!!!!!!</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> love and light to all of you,</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> jeremy</font>
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style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: david wilcock (djw333@exis.net)
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style="font: 10pt arial">sent: wednesday, december 20, 2000 11:07 am
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><font face="arial" size="2">soul who has named itself korga for internet purposes and all others, </font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">i am not a savior to anyone and don't want to be. i f---ed this one up pretty good. let that stand as a testament to the fact that i'm not an ascended being, but still on my path as everyone else. and i think that in net-land you've all seen a dramatized version of a huge spiritual struggle that i am undergoing, which i finally understand and am prepared to move through to a higher level of myself. </font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">i was definitely acting from the "monkey mind" to play god and issue a blanket condemnation such as that. people should have their free will to say what they want to say on this list. i apologize. all i can change is how i respond and how much priority it gets.as you'll see in the most recent posted reading, ihave truly been going through a crisis of the soul and it wasgetting dramatic - insomnia for more thana week and my health was failing, too exhausted to cry. i'm more dependent on the presence of others like sabrina than i let myself realize. i think i've pulled out of the worst of it already but yesterday i was at the complete end of my rope. let me explain the reasons.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">my experience has been that i only have received about five to eight challenging emails in the entire time that i have done this website. seriously. and most of themhave written from such a simplistic, judgmentalspace that eventually i would just laugh it off.most of those people would be honored by a response from me and they would become friends of mine in the end, even book readings.but at the outset,each time i received one, it could set me off for up to two days straight, unable to function. sabrina's presence lessened that, but she's not here until the 28th, 12 hours before i've got to go on my enforced vacation. and my normal reaction has been, "if someone is a problem, give them your time, write a nice letter and the pain will stop." well, guess what. my divorced child didn't reconcile this and i've been hurting myself instead of refraining from battle. our family is going to be dysfunctional forever if this is a public list, and i can't care one whit about it - each person must decide if they want to receive this every day. </font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">so the crisis hits town, i'd pour my heart out, somewhat relieved by the fact that others could see the fruit of my efforts, and then another passive-aggressive email would come in that would start out nicely enough, telling me that i am a beautiful writer, and then contort into all sorts of misstatements about who i am and what this site is about.i cannot, and must not, give my energy to these things. and if i am about to bump up a major popularity level, i've got to totally get over this kind of stuff now while it's still a dull roar.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">really i just can't continue to participate, good or bad, if i want to get this book finished.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">i don't dislike you as a person and i certainly have heard the points that you are trying to make. the main reason why i didn't want to go with an email group in the beginning of all this was because of the potential for it to just turn into an endless flood of flame wars clogging my inbox. but that's something that anyone must be willing to accept as a possibility.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">i have decided to set up my email program to route all asc2k posts into a separate folder so that i am not feeling so overwhelmed and can still maintain my normal flow of correspondence, which is mammoth enough by itself.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">pythagoras condemned a student once and that student immediately plunged off a cliff to his death. the lesson that was supposed to have been learned was "never condemn another." i apologize for having not remembered that lesson this time. what i call attacks are actually part of a bizarre metaphysical process that i am going through, enunciated in the reading i posted, that is all about the "killing off" of my ego self for good, to be hollowed out and replaced with unity. so what you heard was a death cry of the me that will no longer be. i have pledged to implement the suggestions of that reading already - and it should be up on the site later today.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">i apologize to all for my insolent behavior. this monkey won't be posting anymore. until i get sober enough to be who i truly am i'm not going to write anything more.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">peace be with you -</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">- david</font>
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> three people unsubscribed today. your attacks depress me. please leave us alone.
>
> - david

david,

honestly, i seriously do appologize if you feel that first i have been attacking you. and if you feel this is
the cause of three people to leave the list i appologize again. that this has depressed you depresses me. that
you would have me leave saddens me. it's difficult for me to really respond to this because it has become
obvious that you no longer care to listen. it is strange to me how you could have such a breadth of knowledge
and find what i have to say to be threatening. i suspect david that you may have already begun the reifying
process and if there is but one thing that you take from me let it be to walk the reification path with caution if at
all. you are on a wonderful track but its getting dangerous. seriously. there's little more than i can say.

jeremy,

in light of david's mssg replying to yours may be a bit unneccessary, but please remember that i never
claimed i was right and anyone was wrong, i merely said that no one (including myself) was right. also i have
read all of david's material (printing it all out cost me so much toner) except the whole ra study guide and when
ciii i'll read that as well. i'm not about debating with philosophers because they do so without belief.
philosophy with those who believe is difficult because they tend not to see a relation. but it does exist. to you
and to everyone on this list i suggest that you reread my posts to this forum and truly determine what i have
said. the questions i've raised are of importance and that i won't be raising them anymore does not mean you
shouldn't search for answers to them. in addition to this i leave a few words from a previously ascended master
(david you might remember that i once sent you an email about a year ago to check out the gospel of thomas,
you said you read it but your reply to my email hinted that you hadn't grasped the breadth of it. if you get the
chance reread it. and read thinking and destiny to see the beauty of another metaphor with a closer parallel).

the gospel of thomas was written transcribed by jesus' brother (mary's son) didymous jude thomas. it is a
collection of esoteric sayings from jesus' life (many of which can be found in the new testament). it was left out
of the bible specifically because of its difficult nature and because it was thought that the people would not be
able to interpret the sayings. i post it here because the underlying topic of it is ascension and indeed the
metaphysics of ascension. i hope you can see the relevence.

1) and he said, "whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."
2) jesus said, "let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. when he finds, he will become troubled.
when he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the all."
3) jesus said, "if those who lead you say, `see, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede
you. if they say to you, `it is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and
it is outside of you. when you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is
you who are the sons of the living father. but if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you
who are that poverty."
4) jesus said, "the man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life,
and he will live. for many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."
5) jesus said, "recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you. for
there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."
6) his disciples questioned him and said to him, "do you want us to fast? how shall we pray? shall we give
alms? what diet shall we observe?" jesus said, "do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are
plain in the sight of heaven. for nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without
being uncovered."
7) jesus said, "blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom
the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."
8) and he said, "the kingdom is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea
full of small fish. among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. he threw all the small fish back into the
sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
9) jesus said, "now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them. some fell on the road;
the birds came and gathered them up. others fell on the rock, did not take rood in the soil, and did not produce
ears. and others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. and others fell on the good soil
and produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."
10) jesus said, "i have cast fire upon the world, and see, i am guarding it until it blazes."
11) jesus said, "this heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. the dead are not alive, and the
living will not die. in the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. when you come to
dwell in the light, what will you do? on the day when you were one you became two. but when you become two,
what will you do?"
12) the disciples said to jesus, "we know that you will depart from us. who is to be our leader?" jesus said
to them, "wherever you are, you are to go to james the righteous, for whose sake heaven and earth came into
being."
13) jesus said to his disciples, "compare me to someone and tell me whom i am like." simon peter said to
him, "you are like a righteous angel." matthew said to him, "you are like a wise philosopher." thomas
said to him, "master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like." jesus said, "i am not your
master. because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated by the bubbling spring which i have measured
out." and he took him and withdrew and told him three things. when thomas returned to his companions,
they asked him, "what did jesus say to you?" thomas said to them, "if i tell you one of the things which he
told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."
14) jesus said to them, "if you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves; and if you pray, you will be
condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. when you go into any land and walk about in
the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and heal the sick among them. for what goes
into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your mouth - it is that which will defile you."
15) jesus said, "when you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship
him. that one is your father."
16) jesus said, "men think, perhaps, that it is peace which i have come to cast upon the world. they do not know
that it is dissension which i have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. for there will be five in a
house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the
father. and they will stand solitary."
17) jesus said, "i shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched
and what has never occurred to the human mind."
18) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us how our end will be." jesus said, "have you discovered, then, the
beginning, that you look for the end? for where the beginning is, there will the end be. blessed is he who will take
his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."
19) jesus said, "blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. if you become my disciples and
listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. for there are five trees for you in paradise which remain
undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. whoever becomes acquainted with them will not
experience death."
20) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us what the kingdom of heaven is like." he said to them, "it is like a
mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds. but when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a great plant and becomes a
shelter for birds of the sky."
21) mary said to jesus, "whom are your disciples like?" he said, "they are like children who have settled in a
field which is not theirs. when the owners of the field come, they will say, `let us have back our field.' they (will)
undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and give it back to them. therefore i say to
you, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his vigil before he comes and will not let
him into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. you, then, be on your guard against the world. arm
yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for the difficulty which you expect will
(surely) materialize. let there be among you a man of understanding. when the grain ripened, he came quickly
with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
22) jesus saw infants being suckled. he said to his disciples, "these infants being suckled are like those who
enter the kingdom." they said to him, "shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?" jesus said to
them, "when you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the
inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that
the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in
place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter [the
kingdom]."
23) jesus said, "i shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten thousand, and they shall stand as
a single one."
24) his disciples said to him, "show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it." he
said to them, "whoever has ears, let him hear. there is light within a man of light, and he (or "it") lights up the
whole world. if he (or "it") does not shine, he (or "it") is darkness."
25) jesus said, "love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye."
26) jesus said, "you see the mote in your brothers eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. when
you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye."
27) <jesus said,> "if you do not fast as regards the world, you will not find the kingdom. if you do not observe
the sabbath as a sabbath, you will not see the father."
28) jesus said, "i took my place in the midst of the world, and i appeared to them in the flesh. i found all of
them intoxicated; i found none of them thirsty. and my soul became afflicted for the sons of men, because they
are blind in their hearts and do not have sight; for empty they came into the world, and empty too they seek to
leave the world. but for the moment they are intoxicated. when they shake off their wine, then they will repent."
29) jesus said, "if the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. but if spirit came into being
because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. indeed, i am amazed at how this great wealth has made its
home in this poverty."
30) jesus said, "where there are three gods, they are gods. where there are two or one, i am with him."
31) jesus said, "no prophet is accepted in his own village; no physician heals those who know him."
32) jesus said, "a city being built on a high mountain and fortified cannot fall, nor can it be hidden."
33) jesus said, "preach from your housetops that which you will hear in your ear {(and) in the other ear}. for no
one lights a lamp and puts it under a bushel, nor does he put it in a hidden place, but rather he sets it on a
lampstand so that everyone who enters and leaves will see its light."
34) jesus said, "if a blind man leads a blind man, they will both fall into a pit."
35) jesus said, "it is not possible for anyone to enter the house of a strong man and take it by force unless he
binds his hands; then he will (be able to) ransack his house."
36) jesus said, "do not be concerned from morning until evening and from evening until morning about what you
will wear."
37) his disciples said, "when will you become revealed to us and when shall we see you?" jesus said, "when
you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them under your feet like little children
and tread on them, then [will you see] the son of the living one, and you will not be afraid"
38) jesus said, "many times have you desired to hear these words which i am saying to you, and you have no
one else to hear them from. there will be days when you look for me and will not find me."
39) jesus said, "the pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge and hidden them. they
themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. you, however, be as wise as
serpents and as innocent as doves."
40) jesus said, "a grapevine has been planted outside of the father, but being unsound, it will be pulled up by
its roots and destroyed."
41) jesus said, "whoever has something in his hand will receive more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived
of even the little he has."
42) jesus said, "become passers-by."
43) his disciples said to him, "who are you, that you should say these things to us?" <jesus said to them,>
"you do not realize who i am from what i say to you, but you have become like the jews, for they (either) love
the tree and hate its fruit or love the fruit and hate the tree."
44) jesus said, "whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the
son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven either on earth or in
heaven."
45) jesus said, "grapes are not harvested from thorns, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they do not
produce fruit. a good man brings forth good from his storehouse; an evil man brings forth evil things from his evil
storehouse, which is in his heart, and says evil things. for out of the abundance of the heart he brings forth evil
things."
46) jesus said, "among those born of women, from adam until john the baptist, there is no one so superior to
john the baptist that his eyes should not be lowered (before him). yet i have said whichever one of you comes to
be a child will be acquainted with the kingdom and will become superior to john."
47) jesus said, "it is impossible for a man to mount two horses or to stretch two bows. and it is impossible for a
servant to serve two masters; otherwise he will honor the one and treat the other contemptuously. no man drinks
old wine and immediately desires to drink new wine. and new wine is not put into old wineskins, lest they burst;
nor is old wine put into a new wineskin, lest it spoil it. an old patch is not sewn onto a new garment, because a
tear would result."
48) jesus said, "if two make peace with each other in this one house, they will say to the mountain, `move away,'
and it will move away."
49) jesus said, "blessed are the solitary and elect, for you will find the kingdom. for you are from it, and to it
you will return."
50) jesus said, "if they say to you, `where did you come from?', say to them, `we came from the light, the place
where the light came into being on its own accord and established [itself] and became manifest through their
image.' if they say to you, `is it you?', say, `we are its children, we are the elect of the living father.' if they ask
you, `what is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, `it is movement and repose.'"
51) his disciples said to him, "when will the repose of the dead come about, and when will the new world come?"
he said to them, "what you look forward to has already come, but you do not recognize it."
52) his disciples said to him, "twenty-four prophets spoke in israel, and all of them spoke in you." he said
to them, "you have omitted the one living in your presence and have spoken (only) of the dead."
53) his disciples said to him, "is circumcision beneficial or not?" he said to them, "if it were beneficial, their
father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become
completely profitable."
54) jesus said, "blessed are the poor, for yours is the kingdom of heaven."
55) jesus said, "whoever does not hate his father and his mother cannot become a disciple to me. and whoever
does not hate his brothers and sisters and take up his cross in my way will not be worthy of me."
56) jesus said, "whoever has come to understand the world has found (only) a corpse, and whoever has found a
corpse is superior to the world."
57) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a man who had [good] seed. his enemy came by night and
sowed weeds among the good seed. the man did not allow them to pull up the weeds; he said to them, `i am
afraid that you will go intending to pull up the weeds and pull up the wheat along with them.' for on the day of the
harvest the weeds will be plainly visible, and they will be pulled up and burned."
58) jesus said, "blessed is the man who has suffered and found life."
59) jesus said, "take heed of the living one while you are alive, lest you die and seek to see him and be
unable to do so."
60) <they saw> a samaritan carrying a lamb on his way to judea. he said to his disciples, "(why does) that man
(carry) the lamb around?" they said to him, "so that he may kill it and eat it." he said to them, "while it
is alive, he will not eat it, but only when he has killed it and it has become a corpse." they said to him, "he
cannot do so otherwise." he said to them, "you too, look for a place for yourself within the repose, lest you
become a corpse and be eaten."
61) jesus said, "two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and other will live." salome said to him, "who are
you, man, that you, as though from the one, have come up on my couch and eaten from my table?" jesus
said to her, "i am he who exists from the undivided. i was given some of the things of my father." <salome
said,> "i am your disciple." <jesus said to her,> "therefore i say, if he is <undivided>, he will be filled with
light, but if he is divided, he will be filled with darkness."
62) jesus said, "it is to those [who are worthy of my] mysteries that i tell my mysteries. do not let your left hand
know what your right hand is doing."
63) jesus said, "there was a rich man who had much money. he said, `i shall put my money to use so that i
may sow, reap, plant, and fill my storehouse with produce, with the result that i shall lack nothing. such were his
intentions, but that same night he died. let him who has ears hear."
64) jesus said, "a man had received visitors. and when he had prepared the dinner, he sent his servant to invite
guests. he went to the first one and said to him, "my master invites you.' he said, `i have claims against some
merchants. they are coming to me this evening. i must go and give them my orders. i ask to be excused from
the dinner.' he went to another and said, `my master has invited you.' he said to him, `i have just bought a house
and am required for the day. i shall not have any spare time.' he went to another and said to him, `my master
invites you.' he said to him, `my friend is going to get married, and i am to prepare the banquet. i shall not be
able to come. i ask to be excused from the dinner.' he went to another and said to him, `my master invites you.'
he said to him, `i have just bought a farm, and i am on my way to collect the rent. i shall not be able to come. i
ask to be excused.' the servant returned and said to his master, `those whom you invited to the dinner have
asked to be excused.' the master said to his servant, `go outside to the streets and bring back those whom you
happen to meet, so that they may dine.' businessmen and merchants will not enter the places of my father."
65) he said, "there was a good man who owned a vineyard. he leased it to tenant farmers so that they might
work it and he might collect the produce from them. he sent his servant so that the tenants might give him the
produce of the vineyard. they seized his servant and beat him, all but killing him. the servant went back and told
his master. the master said, `perhaps <they> did not recognize <him>.' he sent another servant. the tenants
beat this one as well. then the owner sent his son and said, `perhaps they will show respect to my son.' because
the tenants knew that it was he who was the heir to the vineyard, they seized him and killed him. let him who has
ears hear."
66) jesus said, "show me the stone which the builders have rejected. that one is the cornerstone."
67) jesus said, "whoever believes that the all itself is deficient is (himself) completely deficient."
68) jesus said, "blessed are you when you are hated and persecuted. wherever you have been persecuted they
will find no place."
69) jesus said, "blessed are they who have been persecuted within themselves. it is they who have truly come to
know the father. blessed are the hungry, for the belly of him who desires will be filled."
70) jesus said, "if you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. if you do not bring forth
what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."
71) jesus said, "i shall destroy [this] house, and no one will be able to rebuild it."
72) [a man said] to him, "tell my brothers to divide my father's possessions with me." he said to him, "o
man, who has made me a divider?" he turned to his disciples and said to them, "i am not a divider, am i?"
73) jesus said, "the harvest is great but the laborers are few. beseech the lord, therefore, to send out laborers
to the harvest."
74) he said, "o lord, there are many around the drinking trough, but there is nothing in the cistern."
75) jesus said, "many are standing at the door, but it is the solitary who will enter the bridal chamber."
76) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a merchant who had a consignment of merchandise and who
discovered a pearl. that merchant was shrewd. he sold the merchandise and bought the pearl alone for himself.
you too, seek his unfailing and enduring treasure where no moth comes near to devour and no worm destroys."
77) jesus said, "it is i who am the light which is above them all. it is i who am the all. from me did the all come
forth, and unto me did the all extend. split a piece of wood, and i am there. lift up the stone, and you will find
me there."
78) jesus said, "why have you come out into the desert? to see a reed shaken by the wind? and to see a man
clothed in fine garments like your kings and your great men? upon them are the fine [garments], and they are
unable to discern the truth."
79) a woman from the crowd said to him, "blessed are the womb which bore you and the breasts which nourished
you." he said to her, "blessed are those who have heard the word of the father and have truly kept it. for
there will be days when you will say, `blessed are the womb which has not conceived and the breasts which have
not given milk.'"
80) jesus said, "he who has recognized the world has found the body, but he who has found the body is superior
to the world."
81) jesus said, "let him who has grown rich be king, and let him who possesses power renounce it."
82) jesus said, "he who is near me is near the fire, and he who is far from me is far from the kingdom."
83) jesus said, "the images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the
light of the father. he will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."
84) jesus said, "when you see your likeness, you rejoice. but when you see your images which came into being
before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!"
85) jesus said, "adam came into being from a great power and a great wealth, but he did not become worthy of
you. for had he been worthy, [he would] not [have experienced] death."
86) jesus said, "[the foxes have their holes] and the birds have [their] nests, but the son of man has no place
to lay his head and rest."
87) jesus said, "wretched is the body that is dependant upon a body, and wretched is the soul that is dependent
on these two."
88) jesus said, "the angels and the prophets will come to you and give you those things you (already) have.
and you too, give them those things which you have, and say to yourselves, `when will they come and take what
is theirs?'"
89) jesus said, "why do you wash the outside of the cup? do you not realize that he who made he inside is the
same one who made the outside?"
90) jesus said, "come unto me, for my yoke is easy and my lordship is mild, and you will find repose for
yourselves."
91) they said to him, "tell us who you are so that we may believe in you." he said to them, "you read the
face of the sky and of the earth, but you have not recognized the one who is before you, and you do not know
how to read this moment."
92) jesus said, "seek and you will find. yet, what you asked me about in former times and which i did not tell
you then, now i do desire to tell, but you do not enquire after it."
93) <jesus said,> "do not give what is holy to dogs, lest they throw them on the dung-heap. do not throw the
pearls to swine, lest they grind it [to bits]."
94) jesus [said], "he who seeks will find, and [he who knocks] will be let in."
95) [jesus said,] "if you have money, do not lend it at interest, but give [it] to one from whom you will not get it
back."
96) jesus [said], "the kingdom of the father is like a certain woman. she took a little leaven, [concealed] it in
some dough, and made it into large loaves. let him who has ears hear."
97) jesus said, "the kingdom of the [father] is like a certain woman who was carrying a jar full of meal. while
she was walking [on] a road, still some distance from home, the handle of the jar broke and the meal emptied
out behind her on the road. she did not realize it; she had noticed no accident. when she reached her house, she
set the jar down and found it empty."
98) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a certain man who wanted to kill a powerful man. in his own
house he drew his sword and stuck it into the wall in order to find out whether his hand could carry through. then
he slew the powerful man."
99) the disciples said to him, "your brothers and your mother are standing outside." he said to them,
"those here who do the will of my father are my brothers and my mother. it is they who will enter the kingdom of
my father."
100) they showed jesus a gold coin and said to him, "caesar's men demand taxes from us." he said to
them, "give caesar what belongs to caesar, give god what belongs to god, and give me what is mine."
101) <jesus said,> "whoever does not hate his father and his mother as i do cannot become a disciple to me.
and whoever does [not] love his father and his mother as i do cannot become a [disciple] to me. for my mother
[gave me falsehood], but [my] true [mother] gave me life."
102) jesus said, "woe to the pharisees, for they are like a dog sleeping in the manger of oxen, for neither does
he eat nor does he let the oxen eat."
103) jesus said, "fortunate is the man who knows where the brigands will enter, so that he may get up, muster
his domain, and arm himself before they invade."
104) they said [to jesus], "come, let us pray today and let us fast." jesus said, "what is the sin that i have
committed, or wherein have i been defeated? but when the bridegroom leaves the bridal chamber, then let them
fast and pray."
105) jesus said, "he who knows the father and the mother will be called the son of a harlot."
106) jesus said, "when you make the two one, you will become the sons of man, and when you say, `mountain,
move away,' it will move away."
107) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep. one of them, the largest, went
astray. he left the ninety-nine sheep and looked for that one until he found it. when he had gone to such
trouble, he said to the sheep, `i care for you more than the ninety-nine.'"
108) jesus said, "he who will drink from my mouth will become like me. i myself shall become he, and the things
that are hidden will become revealed to him."
109) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a man who had a [hidden] treasure in his field without knowing it. and
[after] he died, he left it to his son. the son did not know (about the treasure). he inherited the field and sold
[it]. and the one who bought it went plowing and found the treasure. he began to lend money at interest to
whomever he wished."
110) jesus said, "whoever finds the world and becomes rich, let him renounce the world."
111) jesus said, "the heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your presence. and one who lives from the living
one will not see death." does not jesus say, "whoever finds himself is superior to the world?"
112) jesus said, "woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the soul that depends on the flesh."
113) his disciples said to him, "when will the kingdom come?" <jesus said,> "it will not come by waiting for it.
it will not be a matter of saying `here it is' or `there it is.' rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon
the earth, and men do not see it."
114) simon peter said to him, "let mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." jesus said, "i myself
shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. for
every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

i wish you all well. and may you see the path that has you destined to ascend.

incarnations
korga


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Jeremy Weiland
12-20-2000, 08:52 AM
> often, i've seen spiritual leaders and thinkers deny the fact they are
> formed from the same genetic pool that all mankind is.

i can personally attest to the fact that david sincerely *does not believe
this at all* about himself. he does, however, recognize the gifts he has
been given and the unique postition that puts him in.

> i also appreciate david's acceptance that others may have a different path
> to ascension. every person i have talked to that have
reached the same
> point as me have come from a different place and along a different route.

absolutely true. david's work is just one "flavor" if you will of the
universal curriculum. in reality, all paths lead to god and unity.
however, i do think it is undesirable for us to come here and risk
neccessarily confusing an understanding of david's work by bringing all
these other curriculla into this forum, since we're supposed to be here to
be furthering an understanding of the work; that is first and formost the
reason we are here.
hopefully you can see that this does not dictate the path you must take
of your own free will choice, but merely the topic of discussion on this
list.

>this was essentially every
> great master's message: inspire people to find their own way through the
> example of your life.

amen, brother. i would like to hear more of your ideas
:-)

>
> a last note: only through challenge do we prevent stagnation.

well, steve, it seems that against all odds we have certainly prevented
stagnation!

take care,
jeremy

Jeremy Weiland
12-20-2000, 09:11 AM
thanks for the quotes, korga!

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> > korga,
> >
> > three people unsubscribed today. your attacks depress me. please leave
us alone.
> >
> > - david
>
> david,
>
> honestly, i seriously do appologize if you feel that first i have been
attacking you. and if you feel this is
> the cause of three people to leave the list i appologize again. that this
has depressed you depresses me. that
> you would have me leave saddens me. it's difficult for me to really
respond to this because it has become
> obvious that you no longer care to listen. it is strange to me how you
could have such a breadth of knowledge
> and find what i have to say to be threatening. i suspect david that you
may have already begun the reifying
> process and if there is but one thing that you take from me let it be to
walk the reification path with caution if at
> all. you are on a wonderful track but its getting dangerous. seriously.
there's little more than i can say.
>
> jeremy,
>
> in light of david's mssg replying to yours may be a bit unneccessary, but
please remember that i never
> claimed i was right and anyone was wrong, i merely said that no one
(including myself) was right. also i have
> read all of david's material (printing it all out cost me so much toner)
except the whole ra study guide and when
> ciii i'll read that as well. i'm not about debating with philosophers
because they do so without belief.
> philosophy with those who believe is difficult because they tend not to
see a relation. but it does exist. to you
> and to everyone on this list i suggest that you reread my posts to this
forum and truly determine what i have
> said. the questions i've raised are of importance and that i won't be
raising them anymore does not mean you
> shouldn't search for answers to them. in addition to this i leave a few
words from a previously ascended master
> (david you might remember that i once sent you an email about a year ago
to check out the gospel of thomas,
> you said you read it but your reply to my email hinted that you hadn't
grasped the breadth of it. if you get the
> chance reread it. and read thinking and destiny to see the beauty of
another metaphor with a closer parallel).
>
> the gospel of thomas was written transcribed by jesus' brother (mary's
son) didymous jude thomas. it is a
> collection of esoteric sayings from jesus' life (many of which can be
found in the new testament). it was left out
> of the bible specifically because of its difficult nature and because it
was thought that the people would not be
> able to interpret the sayings. i post it here because the underlying
topic of it is ascension and indeed the
> metaphysics of ascension. i hope you can see the relevence.
>
> 1) and he said, "whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will
not experience death."
> 2) jesus said, "let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. when
he finds, he will become troubled.
> when he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the
all."
> 3) jesus said, "if those who lead you say, `see, the kingdom is in the
sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede
> you. if they say to you, `it is in the sea,' then the fish will precede
you. rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and
> it is outside of you. when you come to know yourselves, then you will
become known, and you will realize that it is
> you who are the sons of the living father. but if you will not know
yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you
> who are that poverty."
> 4) jesus said, "the man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small
child seven days old about the place of life,
> and he will live. for many who are first will become last, and they will
become one and the same."
> 5) jesus said, "recognize what is in your sight, and that which is
hidden from you will become plain to you. for
> there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."
> 6) his disciples questioned him and said to him, "do you want us to
fast? how shall we pray? shall we give
> alms? what diet shall we observe?" jesus said, "do not tell lies, and do
not do what you hate, for all things are
> plain in the sight of heaven. for nothing hidden will not become manifest,
and nothing covered will remain without
> being uncovered."
> 7) jesus said, "blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by
man; and cursed is the man whom
> the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."
> 8) and he said, "the kingdom is like a wise fisherman who cast his net
into the sea and drew it up from the sea
> full of small fish. among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish.
he threw all the small fish back into the
> sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. whoever has ears to hear,
let him hear."
> 9) jesus said, "now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and
scattered them. some fell on the road;
> the birds came and gathered them up. others fell on the rock, did not take
rood in the soil, and did not produce
> ears. and others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate
them. and others fell on the good soil
> and produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and
twenty per measure."
> 10) jesus said, "i have cast fire upon the world, and see, i am guarding
it until it blazes."
> 11) jesus said, "this heaven will pass away, and the one above it will
pass away. the dead are not alive, and the
> living will not die. in the days when you consumed what is dead, you made
it what is alive. when you come to
> dwell in the light, what will you do? on the day when you were one you
became two. but when you become two,
> what will you do?"
> 12) the disciples said to jesus, "we know that you will depart from us.
who is to be our leader?" jesus said
> to them, "wherever you are, you are to go to james the righteous, for
whose sake heaven and earth came into
> being."
> 13) jesus said to his disciples, "compare me to someone and tell me whom
i am like." simon peter said to
> him, "you are like a righteous angel." matthew said to him, "you are
like a wise philosopher." thomas
> said to him, "master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are
like." jesus said, "i am not your
> master. because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated by the
bubbling spring which i have measured
> out." and he took him and withdrew and told him three things. when
thomas returned to his companions,
> they asked him, "what did jesus say to you?" thomas said to them, "if
i tell you one of the things which he
> told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come
out of the stones and burn you up."
> 14) jesus said to them, "if you fast, you will give rise to sin for
yourselves; and if you pray, you will be
> condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. when
you go into any land and walk about in
> the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and
heal the sick among them. for what goes
> into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your
mouth - it is that which will defile you."
> 15) jesus said, "when you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate
yourselves on your faces and worship
> him. that one is your father."
> 16) jesus said, "men think, perhaps, that it is peace which i have come
to cast upon the world. they do not know
> that it is dissension which i have come to cast upon the earth: fire,
sword, and war. for there will be five in a
> house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father
against the son, and the son against the
> father. and they will stand solitary."
> 17) jesus said, "i shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear
has heard and what no hand has touched
> and what has never occurred to the human mind."
> 18) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us how our end will be."
jesus said, "have you discovered, then, the
> beginning, that you look for the end? for where the beginning is, there
will the end be. blessed is he who will take
> his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience
death."
> 19) jesus said, "blessed is he who came into being before he came into
being. if you become my disciples and
> listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. for there are five
trees for you in paradise which remain
> undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. whoever
becomes acquainted with them will not
> experience death."
> 20) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us what the kingdom of heaven is
like." he said to them, "it is like a
> mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds. but when it falls on tilled soil,
it produces a great plant and becomes a
> shelter for birds of the sky."
> 21) mary said to jesus, "whom are your disciples like?" he said,
"they are like children who have settled in a
> field which is not theirs. when the owners of the field come, they will
say, `let us have back our field.' they (will)
> undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and
give it back to them. therefore i say to
> you, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin
his vigil before he comes and will not let
> him into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. you, then, be on
your guard against the world. arm
> yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you,
for the difficulty which you expect will
> (surely) materialize. let there be among you a man of understanding. when
the grain ripened, he came quickly
> with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. whoever has ears to hear, let
him hear."
> 22) jesus saw infants being suckled. he said to his disciples, "these
infants being suckled are like those who
> enter the kingdom." they said to him, "shall we then, as children,
enter the kingdom?" jesus said to
> them, "when you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the
outside and the outside like the
> inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the
female one and the same, so that
> the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in
the place of an eye, and a hand in
> place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of
a likeness; then will you enter [the
> kingdom]."
> 23) jesus said, "i shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out
of ten thousand, and they shall stand as
> a single one."
> 24) his disciples said to him, "show us the place where you are, since it
is necessary for us to seek it." he
> said to them, "whoever has ears, let him hear. there is light within a man
of light, and he (or "it") lights up the
> whole world. if he (or "it") does not shine, he (or "it") is darkness."
> 25) jesus said, "love your brother like your soul, guard him like the
pupil of your eye."
> 26) jesus said, "you see the mote in your brothers eye, but you do not
see the beam in your own eye. when
> you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast
the mote from your brother's eye."
> 27) <jesus said,> "if you do not fast as regards the world, you will not
find the kingdom. if you do not observe
> the sabbath as a sabbath, you will not see the father."
> 28) jesus said, "i took my place in the midst of the world, and i
appeared to them in the flesh. i found all of
> them intoxicated; i found none of them thirsty. and my soul became
afflicted for the sons of men, because they
> are blind in their hearts and do not have sight; for empty they came into
the world, and empty too they seek to
> leave the world. but for the moment they are intoxicated. when they shake
off their wine, then they will repent."
> 29) jesus said, "if the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a
wonder. but if spirit came into being
> because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. indeed, i am amazed at how
this great wealth has made its
> home in this poverty."
> 30) jesus said, "where there are three gods, they are gods. where there
are two or one, i am with him."
> 31) jesus said, "no prophet is accepted in his own village; no physician
heals those who know him."
> 32) jesus said, "a city being built on a high mountain and fortified
cannot fall, nor can it be hidden."
> 33) jesus said, "preach from your housetops that which you will hear in
your ear {(and) in the other ear}. for no
> one lights a lamp and puts it under a bushel, nor does he put it in a
hidden place, but rather he sets it on a
> lampstand so that everyone who enters and leaves will see its light."
> 34) jesus said, "if a blind man leads a blind man, they will both fall
into a pit."
> 35) jesus said, "it is not possible for anyone to enter the house of a
strong man and take it by force unless he
> binds his hands; then he will (be able to) ransack his house."
> 36) jesus said, "do not be concerned from morning until evening and from
evening until morning about what you
> will wear."
> 37) his disciples said, "when will you become revealed to us and when
shall we see you?" jesus said, "when
> you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them
under your feet like little children
> and tread on them, then [will you see] the son of the living one, and you
will not be afraid"
> 38) jesus said, "many times have you desired to hear these words which i
am saying to you, and you have no
> one else to hear them from. there will be days when you look for me and
will not find me."
> 39) jesus said, "the pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of
knowledge and hidden them. they
> themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish
to. you, however, be as wise as
> serpents and as innocent as doves."
> 40) jesus said, "a grapevine has been planted outside of the father, but
being unsound, it will be pulled up by
> its roots and destroyed."
> 41) jesus said, "whoever has something in his hand will receive more, and
whoever has nothing will be deprived
> of even the little he has."
> 42) jesus said, "become passers-by."
> 43) his disciples said to him, "who are you, that you should say these
things to us?" <jesus said to them,>
> "you do not realize who i am from what i say to you, but you have become
like the jews, for they (either) love
> the tree and hate its fruit or love the fruit and hate the tree."
> 44) jesus said, "whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven,
and whoever blasphemes against the
> son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will
not be forgiven either on earth or in
> heaven."
> 45) jesus said, "grapes are not harvested from thorns, nor are figs
gathered from thistles, for they do not
> produce fruit. a good man brings forth good from his storehouse; an evil
man brings forth evil things from his evil
> storehouse, which is in his heart, and says evil things. for out of the
abundance of the heart he brings forth evil
> things."
> 46) jesus said, "among those born of women, from adam until john the
baptist, there is no one so superior to
> john the baptist that his eyes should not be lowered (before him). yet i
have said whichever one of you comes to
> be a child will be acquainted with the kingdom and will become superior to
john."
> 47) jesus said, "it is impossible for a man to mount two horses or to
stretch two bows. and it is impossible for a
> servant to serve two masters; otherwise he will honor the one and treat
the other contemptuously. no man drinks
> old wine and immediately desires to drink new wine. and new wine is not
put into old wineskins, lest they burst;
> nor is old wine put into a new wineskin, lest it spoil it. an old patch is
not sewn onto a new garment, because a
> tear would result."
> 48) jesus said, "if two make peace with each other in this one house,
they will say to the mountain, `move away,'
> and it will move away."
> 49) jesus said, "blessed are the solitary and elect, for you will find
the kingdom. for you are from it, and to it
> you will return."
> 50) jesus said, "if they say to you, `where did you come from?', say to
them, `we came from the light, the place
> where the light came into being on its own accord and established [itself]
and became manifest through their
> image.' if they say to you, `is it you?', say, `we are its children, we
are the elect of the living father.' if they ask
> you, `what is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, `it is
movement and repose.'"
> 51) his disciples said to him, "when will the repose of the dead come
about, and when will the new world come?"
> he said to them, "what you look forward to has already come, but you do
not recognize it."
> 52) his disciples said to him, "twenty-four prophets spoke in israel, and
all of them spoke in you." he said
> to them, "you have omitted the one living in your presence and have spoken
(only) of the dead."
> 53) his disciples said to him, "is circumcision beneficial or not?"
he said to them, "if it were beneficial, their
> father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. rather, the
true circumcision in spirit has become
> completely profitable."
> 54) jesus said, "blessed are the poor, for yours is the kingdom of
heaven."
> 55) jesus said, "whoever does not hate his father and his mother cannot
become a disciple to me. and whoever
> does not hate his brothers and sisters and take up his cross in my way
will not be worthy of me."
> 56) jesus said, "whoever has come to understand the world has found
(only) a corpse, and whoever has found a
> corpse is superior to the world."
> 57) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a man who had [good]
seed. his enemy came by night and
> sowed weeds among the good seed. the man did not allow them to pull up the
weeds; he said to them, `i am
> afraid that you will go intending to pull up the weeds and pull up the
wheat along with them.' for on the day of the
> harvest the weeds will be plainly visible, and they will be pulled up and
burned."
> 58) jesus said, "blessed is the man who has suffered and found life."
> 59) jesus said, "take heed of the living one while you are alive, lest
you die and seek to see him and be
> unable to do so."
> 60) <they saw> a samaritan carrying a lamb on his way to judea. he said
to his disciples, "(why does) that man
> (carry) the lamb around?" they said to him, "so that he may kill it
and eat it." he said to them, "while it
> is alive, he will not eat it, but only when he has killed it and it has
become a corpse." they said to him, "he
> cannot do so otherwise." he said to them, "you too, look for a place
for yourself within the repose, lest you
> become a corpse and be eaten."
> 61) jesus said, "two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and other will
live." salome said to him, "who are
> you, man, that you, as though from the one, have come up on my couch and
eaten from my table?" jesus
> said to her, "i am he who exists from the undivided. i was given some of
the things of my father." <salome
> said,> "i am your disciple." <jesus said to her,> "therefore i say,
if he is <undivided>, he will be filled with
> light, but if he is divided, he will be filled with darkness."
> 62) jesus said, "it is to those [who are worthy of my] mysteries that i
tell my mysteries. do not let your left hand
> know what your right hand is doing."
> 63) jesus said, "there was a rich man who had much money. he said, `i
shall put my money to use so that i
> may sow, reap, plant, and fill my storehouse with produce, with the result
that i shall lack nothing. such were his
> intentions, but that same night he died. let him who has ears hear."
> 64) jesus said, "a man had received visitors. and when he had prepared
the dinner, he sent his servant to invite
> guests. he went to the first one and said to him, "my master invites you.'
he said, `i have claims against some
> merchants. they are coming to me this evening. i must go and give them my
orders. i ask to be excused from
> the dinner.' he went to another and said, `my master has invited you.' he
said to him, `i have just bought a house
> and am required for the day. i shall not have any spare time.' he went to
another and said to him, `my master
> invites you.' he said to him, `my friend is going to get married, and i am
to prepare the banquet. i shall not be
> able to come. i ask to be excused from the dinner.' he went to another and
said to him, `my master invites you.'
> he said to him, `i have just bought a farm, and i am on my way to collect
the rent. i shall not be able to come. i
> ask to be excused.' the servant returned and said to his master, `those
whom you invited to the dinner have
> asked to be excused.' the master said to his servant, `go outside to the
streets and bring back those whom you
> happen to meet, so that they may dine.' businessmen and merchants will not
enter the places of my father."
> 65) he said, "there was a good man who owned a vineyard. he leased it to
tenant farmers so that they might
> work it and he might collect the produce from them. he sent his servant so
that the tenants might give him the
> produce of the vineyard. they seized his servant and beat him, all but
killing him. the servant went back and told
> his master. the master said, `perhaps <they> did not recognize <him>.' he
sent another servant. the tenants
> beat this one as well. then the owner sent his son and said, `perhaps they
will show respect to my son.' because
> the tenants knew that it was he who was the heir to the vineyard, they
seized him and killed him. let him who has
> ears hear."
> 66) jesus said, "show me the stone which the builders have rejected. that
one is the cornerstone."
> 67) jesus said, "whoever believes that the all itself is deficient is
(himself) completely deficient."
> 68) jesus said, "blessed are you when you are hated and persecuted.
wherever you have been persecuted they
> will find no place."
> 69) jesus said, "blessed are they who have been persecuted within
themselves. it is they who have truly come to
> know the father. blessed are the hungry, for the belly of him who desires
will be filled."
> 70) jesus said, "if you bring forth what is within you, what you bring
forth will save you. if you do not bring forth
> what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."
> 71) jesus said, "i shall destroy [this] house, and no one will be able to
rebuild it."
> 72) [a man said] to him, "tell my brothers to divide my father's
possessions with me." he said to him, "o
> man, who has made me a divider?" he turned to his disciples and said
to them, "i am not a divider, am i?"
> 73) jesus said, "the harvest is great but the laborers are few. beseech
the lord, therefore, to send out laborers
> to the harvest."
> 74) he said, "o lord, there are many around the drinking trough, but
there is nothing in the cistern."
> 75) jesus said, "many are standing at the door, but it is the solitary
who will enter the bridal chamber."
> 76) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a merchant who had a
consignment of merchandise and who
> discovered a pearl. that merchant was shrewd. he sold the merchandise and
bought the pearl alone for himself.
> you too, seek his unfailing and enduring treasure where no moth comes near
to devour and no worm destroys."
> 77) jesus said, "it is i who am the light which is above them all. it is
i who am the all. from me did the all come
> forth, and unto me did the all extend. split a piece of wood, and i am
there. lift up the stone, and you will find
> me there."
> 78) jesus said, "why have you come out into the desert? to see a reed
shaken by the wind? and to see a man
> clothed in fine garments like your kings and your great men? upon them are
the fine [garments], and they are
> unable to discern the truth."
> 79) a woman from the crowd said to him, "blessed are the womb which bore
you and the breasts which nourished
> you." he said to her, "blessed are those who have heard the word of
the father and have truly kept it. for
> there will be days when you will say, `blessed are the womb which has not
conceived and the breasts which have
> not given milk.'"
> 80) jesus said, "he who has recognized the world has found the body, but
he who has found the body is superior
> to the world."
> 81) jesus said, "let him who has grown rich be king, and let him who
possesses power renounce it."
> 82) jesus said, "he who is near me is near the fire, and he who is far
from me is far from the kingdom."
> 83) jesus said, "the images are manifest to man, but the light in them
remains concealed in the image of the
> light of the father. he will become manifest, but his image will remain
concealed by his light."
> 84) jesus said, "when you see your likeness, you rejoice. but when you
see your images which came into being
> before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will
have to bear!"
> 85) jesus said, "adam came into being from a great power and a great
wealth, but he did not become worthy of
> you. for had he been worthy, [he would] not [have experienced] death."
> 86) jesus said, "[the foxes have their holes] and the birds have [their]
nests, but the son of man has no place
> to lay his head and rest."
> 87) jesus said, "wretched is the body that is dependant upon a body, and
wretched is the soul that is dependent
> on these two."
> 88) jesus said, "the angels and the prophets will come to you and give
you those things you (already) have.
> and you too, give them those things which you have, and say to yourselves,
`when will they come and take what
> is theirs?'"
> 89) jesus said, "why do you wash the outside of the cup? do you not
realize that he who made he inside is the
> same one who made the outside?"
> 90) jesus said, "come unto me, for my yoke is easy and my lordship is
mild, and you will find repose for
> yourselves."
> 91) they said to him, "tell us who you are so that we may believe in
you." he said to them, "you read the
> face of the sky and of the earth, but you have not recognized the one who
is before you, and you do not know
> how to read this moment."
> 92) jesus said, "seek and you will find. yet, what you asked me about in
former times and which i did not tell
> you then, now i do desire to tell, but you do not enquire after it."
> 93) <jesus said,> "do not give what is holy to dogs, lest they throw them
on the dung-heap. do not throw the
> pearls to swine, lest they grind it [to bits]."
> 94) jesus [said], "he who seeks will find, and [he who knocks] will be
let in."
> 95) [jesus said,] "if you have money, do not lend it at interest, but
give [it] to one from whom you will not get it
> back."
> 96) jesus [said], "the kingdom of the father is like a certain woman. she
took a little leaven, [concealed] it in
> some dough, and made it into large loaves. let him who has ears hear."
> 97) jesus said, "the kingdom of the [father] is like a certain woman who
was carrying a jar full of meal. while
> she was walking [on] a road, still some distance from home, the handle of
the jar broke and the meal emptied
> out behind her on the road. she did not realize it; she had noticed no
accident. when she reached her house, she
> set the jar down and found it empty."
> 98) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a certain man who
wanted to kill a powerful man. in his own
> house he drew his sword and stuck it into the wall in order to find out
whether his hand could carry through. then
> he slew the powerful man."
> 99) the disciples said to him, "your brothers and your mother are
standing outside." he said to them,
> "those here who do the will of my father are my brothers and my mother. it
is they who will enter the kingdom of
> my father."
> 100) they showed jesus a gold coin and said to him, "caesar's men demand
taxes from us." he said to
> them, "give caesar what belongs to caesar, give god what belongs to god,
and give me what is mine."
> 101) <jesus said,> "whoever does not hate his father and his mother as i
do cannot become a disciple to me.
> and whoever does [not] love his father and his mother as i do cannot
become a [disciple] to me. for my mother
> [gave me falsehood], but [my] true [mother] gave me life."
> 102) jesus said, "woe to the pharisees, for they are like a dog sleeping
in the manger of oxen, for neither does
> he eat nor does he let the oxen eat."
> 103) jesus said, "fortunate is the man who knows where the brigands will
enter, so that he may get up, muster
> his domain, and arm himself before they invade."
> 104) they said [to jesus], "come, let us pray today and let us fast."
jesus said, "what is the sin that i have
> committed, or wherein have i been defeated? but when the bridegroom leaves
the bridal chamber, then let them
> fast and pray."
> 105) jesus said, "he who knows the father and the mother will be called
the son of a harlot."
> 106) jesus said, "when you make the two one, you will become the sons of
man, and when you say, `mountain,
> move away,' it will move away."
> 107) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep.
one of them, the largest, went
> astray. he left the ninety-nine sheep and looked for that one until he
found it. when he had gone to such
> trouble, he said to the sheep, `i care for you more than the
ninety-nine.'"
> 108) jesus said, "he who will drink from my mouth will become like me. i
myself shall become he, and the things
> that are hidden will become revealed to him."
> 109) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a man who had a [hidden] treasure in
his field without knowing it. and
> [after] he died, he left it to his son. the son did not know (about the
treasure). he inherited the field and sold
> [it]. and the one who bought it went plowing and found the treasure. he
began to lend money at interest to
> whomever he wished."
> 110) jesus said, "whoever finds the world and becomes rich, let him
renounce the world."
> 111) jesus said, "the heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your
presence. and one who lives from the living
> one will not see death." does not jesus say, "whoever finds himself is
superior to the world?"
> 112) jesus said, "woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the
soul that depends on the flesh."
> 113) his disciples said to him, "when will the kingdom come?" <jesus
said,> "it will not come by waiting for it.
> it will not be a matter of saying `here it is' or `there it is.' rather,
the kingdom of the father is spread out upon
> the earth, and men do not see it."
> 114) simon peter said to him, "let mary leave us, for women are not worthy
of life." jesus said, "i myself
> shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a
living spirit resembling you males. for
> every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."
>
> i wish you all well. and may you see the path that has you destined to
ascend.
>
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David Wilcock
12-20-2000, 09:31 AM
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><font face="arial" size="2">wow. i set up the asc2k folder in outlook through "tools - message rules - mail - new mail rule" and then keyword "[asc2k]" routed into a folder that i created called 'asc2k,' and the three latest emails came in, were automatically routed into that folder, and the folder simply turned black to let me know that something had happened. hands free! all the active business in the email window stayed where it was. beautiful! i also set up another rule that automaticallyputs a red flag onany email with the word "reading" in the subject heading. this rule function is specifically designed for managing large email volume and i can't believe i never tried it before. now i'll just have to make sure i check the routing folders.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">go on about your business everyone - i'll check in when i have time. this is a great way for me to handle this. the monkey likes his technology! </font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">david (and others),</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> i am overjoyed, literally overjoyed, that you have been able to make this decision. it takes quite a lot of courage to stand silent in the face of adversity or attacks (if they are perceived that way) and you have definately shown yourself to be a humble teacher of the law of one.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> you have had and will continue to have my prayers in the coming days and weeks as this list makes it way through a most difficult period. let me just throw out there the idea that this is a completely normal situation for a mailing list to go thru and we are not an exception to the rule. the only difference between this list and most others is that the effective subject of this list (david) was taking part in the discussion, which actually is a recipe for disaster imho.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> i would much ratherget rid completelyof this discussion list than have it impede david's work in any way. that is the complete opposite of the effect that this list is supposed to have; it's *supposed* to be futhering david's work. and so, although i will miss such a frequent contact with david, if it's for the best i think it's extremely wise and shows remarkable restraint for david to refrain from posting on the list, or from reading the discussions here.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> once again let me reiterate, to all you who have been watching this whole thing: this is a completely normal situation for a mailing list to go thru. we are not immune to the flames and email wars that plague other lists, nor should we expect that nothing like this will ever happen again. i have suggested some guidelines for posting, not because i think these should be the hard fast rules for this list, but because i think they generate the best discussion for furthering an understanding of david's work. however, i am not the head honcho here nordo ipretend tobe. we'll get through this.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> thank you david for all the work, grief, and internal stress you've had to endure. it *is* very sincerely appreciated and i am very proud of what you have accomplished and of what the future holds you you, your work, and all of us. i think this list can be a very positive thing, so let's not give up on it right away.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> please, lurkers, if you have questions / items for discussion, post!!!!!!!</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> love and light to all of you,</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> jeremy</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">soul who has named itself korga for internet purposes and all others, </font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">i am not a savior to anyone and don't want to be. i f---ed this one up pretty good. let that stand as a testament to the fact that i'm not an ascended being, but still on my path as everyone else. and i think that in net-land you've all seen a dramatized version of a huge spiritual struggle that i am undergoing, which i finally understand and am prepared to move through to a higher level of myself. </font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">i was definitely acting from the "monkey mind" to play god and issue a blanket condemnation such as that. people should have their free will to say what they want to say on this list. i apologize. all i can change is how i respond and how much priority it gets.as you'll see in the most recent posted reading, ihave truly been going through a crisis of the soul and it wasgetting dramatic - insomnia for more thana week and my health was failing, too exhausted to cry. i'm more dependent on the presence of others like sabrina than i let myself realize. i think i've pulled out of the worst of it already but yesterday i was at the complete end of my rope. let me explain the reasons.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">my experience has been that i only have received about five to eight challenging emails in the entire time that i have done this website. seriously. and most of themhave written from such a simplistic, judgmentalspace that eventually i would just laugh it off.most of those people would be honored by a response from me and they would become friends of mine in the end, even book readings.but at the outset,each time i received one, it could set me off for up to two days straight, unable to function. sabrina's presence lessened that, but she's not here until the 28th, 12 hours before i've got to go on my enforced vacation. and my normal reaction has been, "if someone is a problem, give them your time, write a nice letter and the pain will stop." well, guess what. my divorced child didn't reconcile this and i've been hurting myself instead of refraining from battle. our family is going to be dysfunctional forever if this is a public list, and i can't care one whit about it - each person must decide if they want to receive this every day. </font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">so the crisis hits town, i'd pour my heart out, somewhat relieved by the fact that others could see the fruit of my efforts, and then another passive-aggressive email would come in that would start out nicely enough, telling me that i am a beautiful writer, and then contort into all sorts of misstatements about who i am and what this site is about.i cannot, and must not, give my energy to these things. and if i am about to bump up a major popularity level, i've got to totally get over this kind of stuff now while it's still a dull roar.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">really i just can't continue to participate, good or bad, if i want to get this book finished.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">i don't dislike you as a person and i certainly have heard the points that you are trying to make. the main reason why i didn't want to go with an email group in the beginning of all this was because of the potential for it to just turn into an endless flood of flame wars clogging my inbox. but that's something that anyone must be willing to accept as a possibility.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">i have decided to set up my email program to route all asc2k posts into a separate folder so that i am not feeling so overwhelmed and can still maintain my normal flow of correspondence, which is mammoth enough by itself.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">pythagoras condemned a student once and that student immediately plunged off a cliff to his death. the lesson that was supposed to have been learned was "never condemn another." i apologize for having not remembered that lesson this time. what i call attacks are actually part of a bizarre metaphysical process that i am going through, enunciated in the reading i posted, that is all about the "killing off" of my ego self for good, to be hollowed out and replaced with unity. so what you heard was a death cry of the me that will no longer be. i have pledged to implement the suggestions of that reading already - and it should be up on the site later today.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">i apologize to all for my insolent behavior. this monkey won't be posting anymore. until i get sober enough to be who i truly am i'm not going to write anything more.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">peace be with you -</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">- david</font>
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<tt>> korga,
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> three people unsubscribed today. your attacks depress me. please leave us alone.
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> - david

david,

honestly, i seriously do appologize if you feel that first i have been attacking you. and if you feel this is
the cause of three people to leave the list i appologize again. that this has depressed you depresses me. that
you would have me leave saddens me. it's difficult for me to really respond to this because it has become
obvious that you no longer care to listen. it is strange to me how you could have such a breadth of knowledge
and find what i have to say to be threatening. i suspect david that you may have already begun the reifying
process and if there is but one thing that you take from me let it be to walk the reification path with caution if at
all. you are on a wonderful track but its getting dangerous. seriously. there's little more than i can say.

jeremy,

in light of david's mssg replying to yours may be a bit unneccessary, but please remember that i never
claimed i was right and anyone was wrong, i merely said that no one (including myself) was right. also i have
read all of david's material (printing it all out cost me so much toner) except the whole ra study guide and when
ciii i'll read that as well. i'm not about debating with philosophers because they do so without belief.
philosophy with those who believe is difficult because they tend not to see a relation. but it does exist. to you
and to everyone on this list i suggest that you reread my posts to this forum and truly determine what i have
said. the questions i've raised are of importance and that i won't be raising them anymore does not mean you
shouldn't search for answers to them. in addition to this i leave a few words from a previously ascended master
(david you might remember that i once sent you an email about a year ago to check out the gospel of thomas,
you said you read it but your reply to my email hinted that you hadn't grasped the breadth of it. if you get the
chance reread it. and read thinking and destiny to see the beauty of another metaphor with a closer parallel).

the gospel of thomas was written transcribed by jesus' brother (mary's son) didymous jude thomas. it is a
collection of esoteric sayings from jesus' life (many of which can be found in the new testament). it was left out
of the bible specifically because of its difficult nature and because it was thought that the people would not be
able to interpret the sayings. i post it here because the underlying topic of it is ascension and indeed the
metaphysics of ascension. i hope you can see the relevence.

1) and he said, "whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."
2) jesus said, "let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. when he finds, he will become troubled.
when he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the all."
3) jesus said, "if those who lead you say, `see, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede
you. if they say to you, `it is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and
it is outside of you. when you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is
you who are the sons of the living father. but if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you
who are that poverty."
4) jesus said, "the man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life,
and he will live. for many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."
5) jesus said, "recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you. for
there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."
6) his disciples questioned him and said to him, "do you want us to fast? how shall we pray? shall we give
alms? what diet shall we observe?" jesus said, "do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are
plain in the sight of heaven. for nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without
being uncovered."
7) jesus said, "blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom
the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."
8) and he said, "the kingdom is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea
full of small fish. among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. he threw all the small fish back into the
sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
9) jesus said, "now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them. some fell on the road;
the birds came and gathered them up. others fell on the rock, did not take rood in the soil, and did not produce
ears. and others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. and others fell on the good soil
and produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."
10) jesus said, "i have cast fire upon the world, and see, i am guarding it until it blazes."
11) jesus said, "this heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. the dead are not alive, and the
living will not die. in the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. when you come to
dwell in the light, what will you do? on the day when you were one you became two. but when you become two,
what will you do?"
12) the disciples said to jesus, "we know that you will depart from us. who is to be our leader?" jesus said
to them, "wherever you are, you are to go to james the righteous, for whose sake heaven and earth came into
being."
13) jesus said to his disciples, "compare me to someone and tell me whom i am like." simon peter said to
him, "you are like a righteous angel." matthew said to him, "you are like a wise philosopher." thomas
said to him, "master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like." jesus said, "i am not your
master. because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated by the bubbling spring which i have measured
out." and he took him and withdrew and told him three things. when thomas returned to his companions,
they asked him, "what did jesus say to you?" thomas said to them, "if i tell you one of the things which he
told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."
14) jesus said to them, "if you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves; and if you pray, you will be
condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. when you go into any land and walk about in
the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and heal the sick among them. for what goes
into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your mouth - it is that which will defile you."
15) jesus said, "when you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship
him. that one is your father."
16) jesus said, "men think, perhaps, that it is peace which i have come to cast upon the world. they do not know
that it is dissension which i have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. for there will be five in a
house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the
father. and they will stand solitary."
17) jesus said, "i shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched
and what has never occurred to the human mind."
18) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us how our end will be." jesus said, "have you discovered, then, the
beginning, that you look for the end? for where the beginning is, there will the end be. blessed is he who will take
his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."
19) jesus said, "blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. if you become my disciples and
listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. for there are five trees for you in paradise which remain
undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. whoever becomes acquainted with them will not
experience death."
20) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us what the kingdom of heaven is like." he said to them, "it is like a
mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds. but when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a great plant and becomes a
shelter for birds of the sky."
21) mary said to jesus, "whom are your disciples like?" he said, "they are like children who have settled in a
field which is not theirs. when the owners of the field come, they will say, `let us have back our field.' they (will)
undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and give it back to them. therefore i say to
you, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his vigil before he comes and will not let
him into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. you, then, be on your guard against the world. arm
yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for the difficulty which you expect will
(surely) materialize. let there be among you a man of understanding. when the grain ripened, he came quickly
with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
22) jesus saw infants being suckled. he said to his disciples, "these infants being suckled are like those who
enter the kingdom." they said to him, "shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?" jesus said to
them, "when you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the
inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that
the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in
place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter [the
kingdom]."
23) jesus said, "i shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten thousand, and they shall stand as
a single one."
24) his disciples said to him, "show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it." he
said to them, "whoever has ears, let him hear. there is light within a man of light, and he (or "it") lights up the
whole world. if he (or "it") does not shine, he (or "it") is darkness."
25) jesus said, "love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye."
26) jesus said, "you see the mote in your brothers eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. when
you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye."
27) <jesus said,> "if you do not fast as regards the world, you will not find the kingdom. if you do not observe
the sabbath as a sabbath, you will not see the father."
28) jesus said, "i took my place in the midst of the world, and i appeared to them in the flesh. i found all of
them intoxicated; i found none of them thirsty. and my soul became afflicted for the sons of men, because they
are blind in their hearts and do not have sight; for empty they came into the world, and empty too they seek to
leave the world. but for the moment they are intoxicated. when they shake off their wine, then they will repent."
29) jesus said, "if the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. but if spirit came into being
because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. indeed, i am amazed at how this great wealth has made its
home in this poverty."
30) jesus said, "where there are three gods, they are gods. where there are two or one, i am with him."
31) jesus said, "no prophet is accepted in his own village; no physician heals those who know him."
32) jesus said, "a city being built on a high mountain and fortified cannot fall, nor can it be hidden."
33) jesus said, "preach from your housetops that which you will hear in your ear {(and) in the other ear}. for no
one lights a lamp and puts it under a bushel, nor does he put it in a hidden place, but rather he sets it on a
lampstand so that everyone who enters and leaves will see its light."
34) jesus said, "if a blind man leads a blind man, they will both fall into a pit."
35) jesus said, "it is not possible for anyone to enter the house of a strong man and take it by force unless he
binds his hands; then he will (be able to) ransack his house."
36) jesus said, "do not be concerned from morning until evening and from evening until morning about what you
will wear."
37) his disciples said, "when will you become revealed to us and when shall we see you?" jesus said, "when
you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them under your feet like little children
and tread on them, then [will you see] the son of the living one, and you will not be afraid"
38) jesus said, "many times have you desired to hear these words which i am saying to you, and you have no
one else to hear them from. there will be days when you look for me and will not find me."
39) jesus said, "the pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge and hidden them. they
themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. you, however, be as wise as
serpents and as innocent as doves."
40) jesus said, "a grapevine has been planted outside of the father, but being unsound, it will be pulled up by
its roots and destroyed."
41) jesus said, "whoever has something in his hand will receive more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived
of even the little he has."
42) jesus said, "become passers-by."
43) his disciples said to him, "who are you, that you should say these things to us?" <jesus said to them,>
"you do not realize who i am from what i say to you, but you have become like the jews, for they (either) love
the tree and hate its fruit or love the fruit and hate the tree."
44) jesus said, "whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the
son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven either on earth or in
heaven."
45) jesus said, "grapes are not harvested from thorns, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they do not
produce fruit. a good man brings forth good from his storehouse; an evil man brings forth evil things from his evil
storehouse, which is in his heart, and says evil things. for out of the abundance of the heart he brings forth evil
things."
46) jesus said, "among those born of women, from adam until john the baptist, there is no one so superior to
john the baptist that his eyes should not be lowered (before him). yet i have said whichever one of you comes to
be a child will be acquainted with the kingdom and will become superior to john."
47) jesus said, "it is impossible for a man to mount two horses or to stretch two bows. and it is impossible for a
servant to serve two masters; otherwise he will honor the one and treat the other contemptuously. no man drinks
old wine and immediately desires to drink new wine. and new wine is not put into old wineskins, lest they burst;
nor is old wine put into a new wineskin, lest it spoil it. an old patch is not sewn onto a new garment, because a
tear would result."
48) jesus said, "if two make peace with each other in this one house, they will say to the mountain, `move away,'
and it will move away."
49) jesus said, "blessed are the solitary and elect, for you will find the kingdom. for you are from it, and to it
you will return."
50) jesus said, "if they say to you, `where did you come from?', say to them, `we came from the light, the place
where the light came into being on its own accord and established [itself] and became manifest through their
image.' if they say to you, `is it you?', say, `we are its children, we are the elect of the living father.' if they ask
you, `what is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, `it is movement and repose.'"
51) his disciples said to him, "when will the repose of the dead come about, and when will the new world come?"
he said to them, "what you look forward to has already come, but you do not recognize it."
52) his disciples said to him, "twenty-four prophets spoke in israel, and all of them spoke in you." he said
to them, "you have omitted the one living in your presence and have spoken (only) of the dead."
53) his disciples said to him, "is circumcision beneficial or not?" he said to them, "if it were beneficial, their
father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become
completely profitable."
54) jesus said, "blessed are the poor, for yours is the kingdom of heaven."
55) jesus said, "whoever does not hate his father and his mother cannot become a disciple to me. and whoever
does not hate his brothers and sisters and take up his cross in my way will not be worthy of me."
56) jesus said, "whoever has come to understand the world has found (only) a corpse, and whoever has found a
corpse is superior to the world."
57) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a man who had [good] seed. his enemy came by night and
sowed weeds among the good seed. the man did not allow them to pull up the weeds; he said to them, `i am
afraid that you will go intending to pull up the weeds and pull up the wheat along with them.' for on the day of the
harvest the weeds will be plainly visible, and they will be pulled up and burned."
58) jesus said, "blessed is the man who has suffered and found life."
59) jesus said, "take heed of the living one while you are alive, lest you die and seek to see him and be
unable to do so."
60) <they saw> a samaritan carrying a lamb on his way to judea. he said to his disciples, "(why does) that man
(carry) the lamb around?" they said to him, "so that he may kill it and eat it." he said to them, "while it
is alive, he will not eat it, but only when he has killed it and it has become a corpse." they said to him, "he
cannot do so otherwise." he said to them, "you too, look for a place for yourself within the repose, lest you
become a corpse and be eaten."
61) jesus said, "two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and other will live." salome said to him, "who are
you, man, that you, as though from the one, have come up on my couch and eaten from my table?" jesus
said to her, "i am he who exists from the undivided. i was given some of the things of my father." <salome
said,> "i am your disciple." <jesus said to her,> "therefore i say, if he is <undivided>, he will be filled with
light, but if he is divided, he will be filled with darkness."
62) jesus said, "it is to those [who are worthy of my] mysteries that i tell my mysteries. do not let your left hand
know what your right hand is doing."
63) jesus said, "there was a rich man who had much money. he said, `i shall put my money to use so that i
may sow, reap, plant, and fill my storehouse with produce, with the result that i shall lack nothing. such were his
intentions, but that same night he died. let him who has ears hear."
64) jesus said, "a man had received visitors. and when he had prepared the dinner, he sent his servant to invite
guests. he went to the first one and said to him, "my master invites you.' he said, `i have claims against some
merchants. they are coming to me this evening. i must go and give them my orders. i ask to be excused from
the dinner.' he went to another and said, `my master has invited you.' he said to him, `i have just bought a house
and am required for the day. i shall not have any spare time.' he went to another and said to him, `my master
invites you.' he said to him, `my friend is going to get married, and i am to prepare the banquet. i shall not be
able to come. i ask to be excused from the dinner.' he went to another and said to him, `my master invites you.'
he said to him, `i have just bought a farm, and i am on my way to collect the rent. i shall not be able to come. i
ask to be excused.' the servant returned and said to his master, `those whom you invited to the dinner have
asked to be excused.' the master said to his servant, `go outside to the streets and bring back those whom you
happen to meet, so that they may dine.' businessmen and merchants will not enter the places of my father."
65) he said, "there was a good man who owned a vineyard. he leased it to tenant farmers so that they might
work it and he might collect the produce from them. he sent his servant so that the tenants might give him the
produce of the vineyard. they seized his servant and beat him, all but killing him. the servant went back and told
his master. the master said, `perhaps <they> did not recognize <him>.' he sent another servant. the tenants
beat this one as well. then the owner sent his son and said, `perhaps they will show respect to my son.' because
the tenants knew that it was he who was the heir to the vineyard, they seized him and killed him. let him who has
ears hear."
66) jesus said, "show me the stone which the builders have rejected. that one is the cornerstone."
67) jesus said, "whoever believes that the all itself is deficient is (himself) completely deficient."
68) jesus said, "blessed are you when you are hated and persecuted. wherever you have been persecuted they
will find no place."
69) jesus said, "blessed are they who have been persecuted within themselves. it is they who have truly come to
know the father. blessed are the hungry, for the belly of him who desires will be filled."
70) jesus said, "if you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. if you do not bring forth
what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."
71) jesus said, "i shall destroy [this] house, and no one will be able to rebuild it."
72) [a man said] to him, "tell my brothers to divide my father's possessions with me." he said to him, "o
man, who has made me a divider?" he turned to his disciples and said to them, "i am not a divider, am i?"
73) jesus said, "the harvest is great but the laborers are few. beseech the lord, therefore, to send out laborers
to the harvest."
74) he said, "o lord, there are many around the drinking trough, but there is nothing in the cistern."
75) jesus said, "many are standing at the door, but it is the solitary who will enter the bridal chamber."
76) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a merchant who had a consignment of merchandise and who
discovered a pearl. that merchant was shrewd. he sold the merchandise and bought the pearl alone for himself.
you too, seek his unfailing and enduring treasure where no moth comes near to devour and no worm destroys."
77) jesus said, "it is i who am the light which is above them all. it is i who am the all. from me did the all come
forth, and unto me did the all extend. split a piece of wood, and i am there. lift up the stone, and you will find
me there."
78) jesus said, "why have you come out into the desert? to see a reed shaken by the wind? and to see a man
clothed in fine garments like your kings and your great men? upon them are the fine [garments], and they are
unable to discern the truth."
79) a woman from the crowd said to him, "blessed are the womb which bore you and the breasts which nourished
you." he said to her, "blessed are those who have heard the word of the father and have truly kept it. for
there will be days when you will say, `blessed are the womb which has not conceived and the breasts which have
not given milk.'"
80) jesus said, "he who has recognized the world has found the body, but he who has found the body is superior
to the world."
81) jesus said, "let him who has grown rich be king, and let him who possesses power renounce it."
82) jesus said, "he who is near me is near the fire, and he who is far from me is far from the kingdom."
83) jesus said, "the images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the
light of the father. he will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."
84) jesus said, "when you see your likeness, you rejoice. but when you see your images which came into being
before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!"
85) jesus said, "adam came into being from a great power and a great wealth, but he did not become worthy of
you. for had he been worthy, [he would] not [have experienced] death."
86) jesus said, "[the foxes have their holes] and the birds have [their] nests, but the son of man has no place
to lay his head and rest."
87) jesus said, "wretched is the body that is dependant upon a body, and wretched is the soul that is dependent
on these two."
88) jesus said, "the angels and the prophets will come to you and give you those things you (already) have.
and you too, give them those things which you have, and say to yourselves, `when will they come and take what
is theirs?'"
89) jesus said, "why do you wash the outside of the cup? do you not realize that he who made he inside is the
same one who made the outside?"
90) jesus said, "come unto me, for my yoke is easy and my lordship is mild, and you will find repose for
yourselves."
91) they said to him, "tell us who you are so that we may believe in you." he said to them, "you read the
face of the sky and of the earth, but you have not recognized the one who is before you, and you do not know
how to read this moment."
92) jesus said, "seek and you will find. yet, what you asked me about in former times and which i did not tell
you then, now i do desire to tell, but you do not enquire after it."
93) <jesus said,> "do not give what is holy to dogs, lest they throw them on the dung-heap. do not throw the
pearls to swine, lest they grind it [to bits]."
94) jesus [said], "he who seeks will find, and [he who knocks] will be let in."
95) [jesus said,] "if you have money, do not lend it at interest, but give [it] to one from whom you will not get it
back."
96) jesus [said], "the kingdom of the father is like a certain woman. she took a little leaven, [concealed] it in
some dough, and made it into large loaves. let him who has ears hear."
97) jesus said, "the kingdom of the [father] is like a certain woman who was carrying a jar full of meal. while
she was walking [on] a road, still some distance from home, the handle of the jar broke and the meal emptied
out behind her on the road. she did not realize it; she had noticed no accident. when she reached her house, she
set the jar down and found it empty."
98) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a certain man who wanted to kill a powerful man. in his own
house he drew his sword and stuck it into the wall in order to find out whether his hand could carry through. then
he slew the powerful man."
99) the disciples said to him, "your brothers and your mother are standing outside." he said to them,
"those here who do the will of my father are my brothers and my mother. it is they who will enter the kingdom of
my father."
100) they showed jesus a gold coin and said to him, "caesar's men demand taxes from us." he said to
them, "give caesar what belongs to caesar, give god what belongs to god, and give me what is mine."
101) <jesus said,> "whoever does not hate his father and his mother as i do cannot become a disciple to me.
and whoever does [not] love his father and his mother as i do cannot become a [disciple] to me. for my mother
[gave me falsehood], but [my] true [mother] gave me life."
102) jesus said, "woe to the pharisees, for they are like a dog sleeping in the manger of oxen, for neither does
he eat nor does he let the oxen eat."
103) jesus said, "fortunate is the man who knows where the brigands will enter, so that he may get up, muster
his domain, and arm himself before they invade."
104) they said [to jesus], "come, let us pray today and let us fast." jesus said, "what is the sin that i have
committed, or wherein have i been defeated? but when the bridegroom leaves the bridal chamber, then let them
fast and pray."
105) jesus said, "he who knows the father and the mother will be called the son of a harlot."
106) jesus said, "when you make the two one, you will become the sons of man, and when you say, `mountain,
move away,' it will move away."
107) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep. one of them, the largest, went
astray. he left the ninety-nine sheep and looked for that one until he found it. when he had gone to such
trouble, he said to the sheep, `i care for you more than the ninety-nine.'"
108) jesus said, "he who will drink from my mouth will become like me. i myself shall become he, and the things
that are hidden will become revealed to him."
109) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a man who had a [hidden] treasure in his field without knowing it. and
[after] he died, he left it to his son. the son did not know (about the treasure). he inherited the field and sold
[it]. and the one who bought it went plowing and found the treasure. he began to lend money at interest to
whomever he wished."
110) jesus said, "whoever finds the world and becomes rich, let him renounce the world."
111) jesus said, "the heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your presence. and one who lives from the living
one will not see death." does not jesus say, "whoever finds himself is superior to the world?"
112) jesus said, "woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the soul that depends on the flesh."
113) his disciples said to him, "when will the kingdom come?" <jesus said,> "it will not come by waiting for it.
it will not be a matter of saying `here it is' or `there it is.' rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon
the earth, and men do not see it."
114) simon peter said to him, "let mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." jesus said, "i myself
shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. for
every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

i wish you all well. and may you see the path that has you destined to ascend.

incarnations
korga


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><font face="arial" size="2">cool.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">wow. i set up the asc2k folder in outlook through "tools - message rules - mail - new mail rule" and then keyword "[asc2k]" routed into a folder that i created called 'asc2k,' and the three latest emails came in, were automatically routed into that folder, and the folder simply turned black to let me know that something had happened. hands free! all the active business in the email window stayed where it was. beautiful! i also set up another rule that automaticallyputs a red flag onany email with the word "reading" in the subject heading. this rule function is specifically designed for managing large email volume and i can't believe i never tried it before. now i'll just have to make sure i check the routing folders.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">go on about your business everyone - i'll check in when i have time. this is a great way for me to handle this. the monkey likes his technology! </font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">peace be with you -</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">- david</font>
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style="font: 10pt arial">sent: wednesday, december 20, 2000 11:44 am
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><font face="arial" size="2">david (and others),</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> i am overjoyed, literally overjoyed, that you have been able to make this decision. it takes quite a lot of courage to stand silent in the face of adversity or attacks (if they are perceived that way) and you have definately shown yourself to be a humble teacher of the law of one.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> you have had and will continue to have my prayers in the coming days and weeks as this list makes it way through a most difficult period. let me just throw out there the idea that this is a completely normal situation for a mailing list to go thru and we are not an exception to the rule. the only difference between this list and most others is that the effective subject of this list (david) was taking part in the discussion, which actually is a recipe for disaster imho.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> i would much ratherget rid completelyof this discussion list than have it impede david's work in any way. that is the complete opposite of the effect that this list is supposed to have; it's *supposed* to be futhering david's work. and so, although i will miss such a frequent contact with david, if it's for the best i think it's extremely wise and shows remarkable restraint for david to refrain from posting on the list, or from reading the discussions here.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> once again let me reiterate, to all you who have been watching this whole thing: this is a completely normal situation for a mailing list to go thru. we are not immune to the flames and email wars that plague other lists, nor should we expect that nothing like this will ever happen again. i have suggested some guidelines for posting, not because i think these should be the hard fast rules for this list, but because i think they generate the best discussion for furthering an understanding of david's work. however, i am not the head honcho here nordo ipretend tobe. we'll get through this.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> thank you david for all the work, grief, and internal stress you've had to endure. it *is* very sincerely appreciated and i am very proud of what you have accomplished and of what the future holds you you, your work, and all of us. i think this list can be a very positive thing, so let's not give up on it right away.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> please, lurkers, if you have questions / items for discussion, post!!!!!!!</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> love and light to all of you,</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> jeremy</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">soul who has named itself korga for internet purposes and all others, </font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">i am not a savior to anyone and don't want to be. i f---ed this one up pretty good. let that stand as a testament to the fact that i'm not an ascended being, but still on my path as everyone else. and i think that in net-land you've all seen a dramatized version of a huge spiritual struggle that i am undergoing, which i finally understand and am prepared to move through to a higher level of myself. </font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">i was definitely acting from the "monkey mind" to play god and issue a blanket condemnation such as that. people should have their free will to say what they want to say on this list. i apologize. all i can change is how i respond and how much priority it gets.as you'll see in the most recent posted reading, ihave truly been going through a crisis of the soul and it wasgetting dramatic - insomnia for more thana week and my health was failing, too exhausted to cry. i'm more dependent on the presence of others like sabrina than i let myself realize. i think i've pulled out of the worst of it already but yesterday i was at the complete end of my rope. let me explain the reasons.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">my experience has been that i only have received about five to eight challenging emails in the entire time that i have done this website. seriously. and most of themhave written from such a simplistic, judgmentalspace that eventually i would just laugh it off.most of those people would be honored by a response from me and they would become friends of mine in the end, even book readings.but at the outset,each time i received one, it could set me off for up to two days straight, unable to function. sabrina's presence lessened that, but she's not here until the 28th, 12 hours before i've got to go on my enforced vacation. and my normal reaction has been, "if someone is a problem, give them your time, write a nice letter and the pain will stop." well, guess what. my divorced child didn't reconcile this and i've been hurting myself instead of refraining from battle. our family is going to be dysfunctional forever if this is a public list, and i can't care one whit about it - each person must decide if they want to receive this every day. </font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">so the crisis hits town, i'd pour my heart out, somewhat relieved by the fact that others could see the fruit of my efforts, and then another passive-aggressive email would come in that would start out nicely enough, telling me that i am a beautiful writer, and then contort into all sorts of misstatements about who i am and what this site is about.i cannot, and must not, give my energy to these things. and if i am about to bump up a major popularity level, i've got to totally get over this kind of stuff now while it's still a dull roar.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">really i just can't continue to participate, good or bad, if i want to get this book finished.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">i don't dislike you as a person and i certainly have heard the points that you are trying to make. the main reason why i didn't want to go with an email group in the beginning of all this was because of the potential for it to just turn into an endless flood of flame wars clogging my inbox. but that's something that anyone must be willing to accept as a possibility.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">i have decided to set up my email program to route all asc2k posts into a separate folder so that i am not feeling so overwhelmed and can still maintain my normal flow of correspondence, which is mammoth enough by itself.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">pythagoras condemned a student once and that student immediately plunged off a cliff to his death. the lesson that was supposed to have been learned was "never condemn another." i apologize for having not remembered that lesson this time. what i call attacks are actually part of a bizarre metaphysical process that i am going through, enunciated in the reading i posted, that is all about the "killing off" of my ego self for good, to be hollowed out and replaced with unity. so what you heard was a death cry of the me that will no longer be. i have pledged to implement the suggestions of that reading already - and it should be up on the site later today.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">i apologize to all for my insolent behavior. this monkey won't be posting anymore. until i get sober enough to be who i truly am i'm not going to write anything more.</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">peace be with you -</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">- david</font>
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> three people unsubscribed today. your attacks depress me. please leave us alone.
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> - david

david,

honestly, i seriously do appologize if you feel that first i have been attacking you. and if you feel this is
the cause of three people to leave the list i appologize again. that this has depressed you depresses me. that
you would have me leave saddens me. it's difficult for me to really respond to this because it has become
obvious that you no longer care to listen. it is strange to me how you could have such a breadth of knowledge
and find what i have to say to be threatening. i suspect david that you may have already begun the reifying
process and if there is but one thing that you take from me let it be to walk the reification path with caution if at
all. you are on a wonderful track but its getting dangerous. seriously. there's little more than i can say.

jeremy,

in light of david's mssg replying to yours may be a bit unneccessary, but please remember that i never
claimed i was right and anyone was wrong, i merely said that no one (including myself) was right. also i have
read all of david's material (printing it all out cost me so much toner) except the whole ra study guide and when
ciii i'll read that as well. i'm not about debating with philosophers because they do so without belief.
philosophy with those who believe is difficult because they tend not to see a relation. but it does exist. to you
and to everyone on this list i suggest that you reread my posts to this forum and truly determine what i have
said. the questions i've raised are of importance and that i won't be raising them anymore does not mean you
shouldn't search for answers to them. in addition to this i leave a few words from a previously ascended master
(david you might remember that i once sent you an email about a year ago to check out the gospel of thomas,
you said you read it but your reply to my email hinted that you hadn't grasped the breadth of it. if you get the
chance reread it. and read thinking and destiny to see the beauty of another metaphor with a closer parallel).

the gospel of thomas was written transcribed by jesus' brother (mary's son) didymous jude thomas. it is a
collection of esoteric sayings from jesus' life (many of which can be found in the new testament). it was left out
of the bible specifically because of its difficult nature and because it was thought that the people would not be
able to interpret the sayings. i post it here because the underlying topic of it is ascension and indeed the
metaphysics of ascension. i hope you can see the relevence.

1) and he said, "whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."
2) jesus said, "let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. when he finds, he will become troubled.
when he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the all."
3) jesus said, "if those who lead you say, `see, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede
you. if they say to you, `it is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and
it is outside of you. when you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is
you who are the sons of the living father. but if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you
who are that poverty."
4) jesus said, "the man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life,
and he will live. for many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."
5) jesus said, "recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you. for
there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."
6) his disciples questioned him and said to him, "do you want us to fast? how shall we pray? shall we give
alms? what diet shall we observe?" jesus said, "do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are
plain in the sight of heaven. for nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without
being uncovered."
7) jesus said, "blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom
the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."
8) and he said, "the kingdom is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea
full of small fish. among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. he threw all the small fish back into the
sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
9) jesus said, "now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them. some fell on the road;
the birds came and gathered them up. others fell on the rock, did not take rood in the soil, and did not produce
ears. and others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. and others fell on the good soil
and produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."
10) jesus said, "i have cast fire upon the world, and see, i am guarding it until it blazes."
11) jesus said, "this heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. the dead are not alive, and the
living will not die. in the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. when you come to
dwell in the light, what will you do? on the day when you were one you became two. but when you become two,
what will you do?"
12) the disciples said to jesus, "we know that you will depart from us. who is to be our leader?" jesus said
to them, "wherever you are, you are to go to james the righteous, for whose sake heaven and earth came into
being."
13) jesus said to his disciples, "compare me to someone and tell me whom i am like." simon peter said to
him, "you are like a righteous angel." matthew said to him, "you are like a wise philosopher." thomas
said to him, "master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like." jesus said, "i am not your
master. because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated by the bubbling spring which i have measured
out." and he took him and withdrew and told him three things. when thomas returned to his companions,
they asked him, "what did jesus say to you?" thomas said to them, "if i tell you one of the things which he
told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."
14) jesus said to them, "if you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves; and if you pray, you will be
condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. when you go into any land and walk about in
the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and heal the sick among them. for what goes
into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your mouth - it is that which will defile you."
15) jesus said, "when you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship
him. that one is your father."
16) jesus said, "men think, perhaps, that it is peace which i have come to cast upon the world. they do not know
that it is dissension which i have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. for there will be five in a
house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the
father. and they will stand solitary."
17) jesus said, "i shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched
and what has never occurred to the human mind."
18) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us how our end will be." jesus said, "have you discovered, then, the
beginning, that you look for the end? for where the beginning is, there will the end be. blessed is he who will take
his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."
19) jesus said, "blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. if you become my disciples and
listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. for there are five trees for you in paradise which remain
undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. whoever becomes acquainted with them will not
experience death."
20) the disciples said to jesus, "tell us what the kingdom of heaven is like." he said to them, "it is like a
mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds. but when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a great plant and becomes a
shelter for birds of the sky."
21) mary said to jesus, "whom are your disciples like?" he said, "they are like children who have settled in a
field which is not theirs. when the owners of the field come, they will say, `let us have back our field.' they (will)
undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and give it back to them. therefore i say to
you, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his vigil before he comes and will not let
him into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. you, then, be on your guard against the world. arm
yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for the difficulty which you expect will
(surely) materialize. let there be among you a man of understanding. when the grain ripened, he came quickly
with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
22) jesus saw infants being suckled. he said to his disciples, "these infants being suckled are like those who
enter the kingdom." they said to him, "shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?" jesus said to
them, "when you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the
inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that
the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in
place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter [the
kingdom]."
23) jesus said, "i shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten thousand, and they shall stand as
a single one."
24) his disciples said to him, "show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it." he
said to them, "whoever has ears, let him hear. there is light within a man of light, and he (or "it") lights up the
whole world. if he (or "it") does not shine, he (or "it") is darkness."
25) jesus said, "love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye."
26) jesus said, "you see the mote in your brothers eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. when
you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye."
27) <jesus said,> "if you do not fast as regards the world, you will not find the kingdom. if you do not observe
the sabbath as a sabbath, you will not see the father."
28) jesus said, "i took my place in the midst of the world, and i appeared to them in the flesh. i found all of
them intoxicated; i found none of them thirsty. and my soul became afflicted for the sons of men, because they
are blind in their hearts and do not have sight; for empty they came into the world, and empty too they seek to
leave the world. but for the moment they are intoxicated. when they shake off their wine, then they will repent."
29) jesus said, "if the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. but if spirit came into being
because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. indeed, i am amazed at how this great wealth has made its
home in this poverty."
30) jesus said, "where there are three gods, they are gods. where there are two or one, i am with him."
31) jesus said, "no prophet is accepted in his own village; no physician heals those who know him."
32) jesus said, "a city being built on a high mountain and fortified cannot fall, nor can it be hidden."
33) jesus said, "preach from your housetops that which you will hear in your ear {(and) in the other ear}. for no
one lights a lamp and puts it under a bushel, nor does he put it in a hidden place, but rather he sets it on a
lampstand so that everyone who enters and leaves will see its light."
34) jesus said, "if a blind man leads a blind man, they will both fall into a pit."
35) jesus said, "it is not possible for anyone to enter the house of a strong man and take it by force unless he
binds his hands; then he will (be able to) ransack his house."
36) jesus said, "do not be concerned from morning until evening and from evening until morning about what you
will wear."
37) his disciples said, "when will you become revealed to us and when shall we see you?" jesus said, "when
you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them under your feet like little children
and tread on them, then [will you see] the son of the living one, and you will not be afraid"
38) jesus said, "many times have you desired to hear these words which i am saying to you, and you have no
one else to hear them from. there will be days when you look for me and will not find me."
39) jesus said, "the pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge and hidden them. they
themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. you, however, be as wise as
serpents and as innocent as doves."
40) jesus said, "a grapevine has been planted outside of the father, but being unsound, it will be pulled up by
its roots and destroyed."
41) jesus said, "whoever has something in his hand will receive more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived
of even the little he has."
42) jesus said, "become passers-by."
43) his disciples said to him, "who are you, that you should say these things to us?" <jesus said to them,>
"you do not realize who i am from what i say to you, but you have become like the jews, for they (either) love
the tree and hate its fruit or love the fruit and hate the tree."
44) jesus said, "whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the
son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven either on earth or in
heaven."
45) jesus said, "grapes are not harvested from thorns, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they do not
produce fruit. a good man brings forth good from his storehouse; an evil man brings forth evil things from his evil
storehouse, which is in his heart, and says evil things. for out of the abundance of the heart he brings forth evil
things."
46) jesus said, "among those born of women, from adam until john the baptist, there is no one so superior to
john the baptist that his eyes should not be lowered (before him). yet i have said whichever one of you comes to
be a child will be acquainted with the kingdom and will become superior to john."
47) jesus said, "it is impossible for a man to mount two horses or to stretch two bows. and it is impossible for a
servant to serve two masters; otherwise he will honor the one and treat the other contemptuously. no man drinks
old wine and immediately desires to drink new wine. and new wine is not put into old wineskins, lest they burst;
nor is old wine put into a new wineskin, lest it spoil it. an old patch is not sewn onto a new garment, because a
tear would result."
48) jesus said, "if two make peace with each other in this one house, they will say to the mountain, `move away,'
and it will move away."
49) jesus said, "blessed are the solitary and elect, for you will find the kingdom. for you are from it, and to it
you will return."
50) jesus said, "if they say to you, `where did you come from?', say to them, `we came from the light, the place
where the light came into being on its own accord and established [itself] and became manifest through their
image.' if they say to you, `is it you?', say, `we are its children, we are the elect of the living father.' if they ask
you, `what is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, `it is movement and repose.'"
51) his disciples said to him, "when will the repose of the dead come about, and when will the new world come?"
he said to them, "what you look forward to has already come, but you do not recognize it."
52) his disciples said to him, "twenty-four prophets spoke in israel, and all of them spoke in you." he said
to them, "you have omitted the one living in your presence and have spoken (only) of the dead."
53) his disciples said to him, "is circumcision beneficial or not?" he said to them, "if it were beneficial, their
father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become
completely profitable."
54) jesus said, "blessed are the poor, for yours is the kingdom of heaven."
55) jesus said, "whoever does not hate his father and his mother cannot become a disciple to me. and whoever
does not hate his brothers and sisters and take up his cross in my way will not be worthy of me."
56) jesus said, "whoever has come to understand the world has found (only) a corpse, and whoever has found a
corpse is superior to the world."
57) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a man who had [good] seed. his enemy came by night and
sowed weeds among the good seed. the man did not allow them to pull up the weeds; he said to them, `i am
afraid that you will go intending to pull up the weeds and pull up the wheat along with them.' for on the day of the
harvest the weeds will be plainly visible, and they will be pulled up and burned."
58) jesus said, "blessed is the man who has suffered and found life."
59) jesus said, "take heed of the living one while you are alive, lest you die and seek to see him and be
unable to do so."
60) <they saw> a samaritan carrying a lamb on his way to judea. he said to his disciples, "(why does) that man
(carry) the lamb around?" they said to him, "so that he may kill it and eat it." he said to them, "while it
is alive, he will not eat it, but only when he has killed it and it has become a corpse." they said to him, "he
cannot do so otherwise." he said to them, "you too, look for a place for yourself within the repose, lest you
become a corpse and be eaten."
61) jesus said, "two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and other will live." salome said to him, "who are
you, man, that you, as though from the one, have come up on my couch and eaten from my table?" jesus
said to her, "i am he who exists from the undivided. i was given some of the things of my father." <salome
said,> "i am your disciple." <jesus said to her,> "therefore i say, if he is <undivided>, he will be filled with
light, but if he is divided, he will be filled with darkness."
62) jesus said, "it is to those [who are worthy of my] mysteries that i tell my mysteries. do not let your left hand
know what your right hand is doing."
63) jesus said, "there was a rich man who had much money. he said, `i shall put my money to use so that i
may sow, reap, plant, and fill my storehouse with produce, with the result that i shall lack nothing. such were his
intentions, but that same night he died. let him who has ears hear."
64) jesus said, "a man had received visitors. and when he had prepared the dinner, he sent his servant to invite
guests. he went to the first one and said to him, "my master invites you.' he said, `i have claims against some
merchants. they are coming to me this evening. i must go and give them my orders. i ask to be excused from
the dinner.' he went to another and said, `my master has invited you.' he said to him, `i have just bought a house
and am required for the day. i shall not have any spare time.' he went to another and said to him, `my master
invites you.' he said to him, `my friend is going to get married, and i am to prepare the banquet. i shall not be
able to come. i ask to be excused from the dinner.' he went to another and said to him, `my master invites you.'
he said to him, `i have just bought a farm, and i am on my way to collect the rent. i shall not be able to come. i
ask to be excused.' the servant returned and said to his master, `those whom you invited to the dinner have
asked to be excused.' the master said to his servant, `go outside to the streets and bring back those whom you
happen to meet, so that they may dine.' businessmen and merchants will not enter the places of my father."
65) he said, "there was a good man who owned a vineyard. he leased it to tenant farmers so that they might
work it and he might collect the produce from them. he sent his servant so that the tenants might give him the
produce of the vineyard. they seized his servant and beat him, all but killing him. the servant went back and told
his master. the master said, `perhaps <they> did not recognize <him>.' he sent another servant. the tenants
beat this one as well. then the owner sent his son and said, `perhaps they will show respect to my son.' because
the tenants knew that it was he who was the heir to the vineyard, they seized him and killed him. let him who has
ears hear."
66) jesus said, "show me the stone which the builders have rejected. that one is the cornerstone."
67) jesus said, "whoever believes that the all itself is deficient is (himself) completely deficient."
68) jesus said, "blessed are you when you are hated and persecuted. wherever you have been persecuted they
will find no place."
69) jesus said, "blessed are they who have been persecuted within themselves. it is they who have truly come to
know the father. blessed are the hungry, for the belly of him who desires will be filled."
70) jesus said, "if you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. if you do not bring forth
what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."
71) jesus said, "i shall destroy [this] house, and no one will be able to rebuild it."
72) [a man said] to him, "tell my brothers to divide my father's possessions with me." he said to him, "o
man, who has made me a divider?" he turned to his disciples and said to them, "i am not a divider, am i?"
73) jesus said, "the harvest is great but the laborers are few. beseech the lord, therefore, to send out laborers
to the harvest."
74) he said, "o lord, there are many around the drinking trough, but there is nothing in the cistern."
75) jesus said, "many are standing at the door, but it is the solitary who will enter the bridal chamber."
76) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a merchant who had a consignment of merchandise and who
discovered a pearl. that merchant was shrewd. he sold the merchandise and bought the pearl alone for himself.
you too, seek his unfailing and enduring treasure where no moth comes near to devour and no worm destroys."
77) jesus said, "it is i who am the light which is above them all. it is i who am the all. from me did the all come
forth, and unto me did the all extend. split a piece of wood, and i am there. lift up the stone, and you will find
me there."
78) jesus said, "why have you come out into the desert? to see a reed shaken by the wind? and to see a man
clothed in fine garments like your kings and your great men? upon them are the fine [garments], and they are
unable to discern the truth."
79) a woman from the crowd said to him, "blessed are the womb which bore you and the breasts which nourished
you." he said to her, "blessed are those who have heard the word of the father and have truly kept it. for
there will be days when you will say, `blessed are the womb which has not conceived and the breasts which have
not given milk.'"
80) jesus said, "he who has recognized the world has found the body, but he who has found the body is superior
to the world."
81) jesus said, "let him who has grown rich be king, and let him who possesses power renounce it."
82) jesus said, "he who is near me is near the fire, and he who is far from me is far from the kingdom."
83) jesus said, "the images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the
light of the father. he will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."
84) jesus said, "when you see your likeness, you rejoice. but when you see your images which came into being
before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!"
85) jesus said, "adam came into being from a great power and a great wealth, but he did not become worthy of
you. for had he been worthy, [he would] not [have experienced] death."
86) jesus said, "[the foxes have their holes] and the birds have [their] nests, but the son of man has no place
to lay his head and rest."
87) jesus said, "wretched is the body that is dependant upon a body, and wretched is the soul that is dependent
on these two."
88) jesus said, "the angels and the prophets will come to you and give you those things you (already) have.
and you too, give them those things which you have, and say to yourselves, `when will they come and take what
is theirs?'"
89) jesus said, "why do you wash the outside of the cup? do you not realize that he who made he inside is the
same one who made the outside?"
90) jesus said, "come unto me, for my yoke is easy and my lordship is mild, and you will find repose for
yourselves."
91) they said to him, "tell us who you are so that we may believe in you." he said to them, "you read the
face of the sky and of the earth, but you have not recognized the one who is before you, and you do not know
how to read this moment."
92) jesus said, "seek and you will find. yet, what you asked me about in former times and which i did not tell
you then, now i do desire to tell, but you do not enquire after it."
93) <jesus said,> "do not give what is holy to dogs, lest they throw them on the dung-heap. do not throw the
pearls to swine, lest they grind it [to bits]."
94) jesus [said], "he who seeks will find, and [he who knocks] will be let in."
95) [jesus said,] "if you have money, do not lend it at interest, but give [it] to one from whom you will not get it
back."
96) jesus [said], "the kingdom of the father is like a certain woman. she took a little leaven, [concealed] it in
some dough, and made it into large loaves. let him who has ears hear."
97) jesus said, "the kingdom of the [father] is like a certain woman who was carrying a jar full of meal. while
she was walking [on] a road, still some distance from home, the handle of the jar broke and the meal emptied
out behind her on the road. she did not realize it; she had noticed no accident. when she reached her house, she
set the jar down and found it empty."
98) jesus said, "the kingdom of the father is like a certain man who wanted to kill a powerful man. in his own
house he drew his sword and stuck it into the wall in order to find out whether his hand could carry through. then
he slew the powerful man."
99) the disciples said to him, "your brothers and your mother are standing outside." he said to them,
"those here who do the will of my father are my brothers and my mother. it is they who will enter the kingdom of
my father."
100) they showed jesus a gold coin and said to him, "caesar's men demand taxes from us." he said to
them, "give caesar what belongs to caesar, give god what belongs to god, and give me what is mine."
101) <jesus said,> "whoever does not hate his father and his mother as i do cannot become a disciple to me.
and whoever does [not] love his father and his mother as i do cannot become a [disciple] to me. for my mother
[gave me falsehood], but [my] true [mother] gave me life."
102) jesus said, "woe to the pharisees, for they are like a dog sleeping in the manger of oxen, for neither does
he eat nor does he let the oxen eat."
103) jesus said, "fortunate is the man who knows where the brigands will enter, so that he may get up, muster
his domain, and arm himself before they invade."
104) they said [to jesus], "come, let us pray today and let us fast." jesus said, "what is the sin that i have
committed, or wherein have i been defeated? but when the bridegroom leaves the bridal chamber, then let them
fast and pray."
105) jesus said, "he who knows the father and the mother will be called the son of a harlot."
106) jesus said, "when you make the two one, you will become the sons of man, and when you say, `mountain,
move away,' it will move away."
107) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep. one of them, the largest, went
astray. he left the ninety-nine sheep and looked for that one until he found it. when he had gone to such
trouble, he said to the sheep, `i care for you more than the ninety-nine.'"
108) jesus said, "he who will drink from my mouth will become like me. i myself shall become he, and the things
that are hidden will become revealed to him."
109) jesus said, "the kingdom is like a man who had a [hidden] treasure in his field without knowing it. and
[after] he died, he left it to his son. the son did not know (about the treasure). he inherited the field and sold
[it]. and the one who bought it went plowing and found the treasure. he began to lend money at interest to
whomever he wished."
110) jesus said, "whoever finds the world and becomes rich, let him renounce the world."
111) jesus said, "the heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your presence. and one who lives from the living
one will not see death." does not jesus say, "whoever finds himself is superior to the world?"
112) jesus said, "woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the soul that depends on the flesh."
113) his disciples said to him, "when will the kingdom come?" <jesus said,> "it will not come by waiting for it.
it will not be a matter of saying `here it is' or `there it is.' rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon
the earth, and men do not see it."
114) simon peter said to him, "let mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." jesus said, "i myself
shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. for
every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

i wish you all well. and may you see the path that has you destined to ascend.

incarnations
korga


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