Ra Terminology

[lottacontinuum]

Here`s another one of the phrases that I don`t thoroughly understand
in the Ra material: The use of the word "transient".
In my english/german dictionary it is discribed as something
that "passes by" or is "not lasting".

but these explanations don`t seem to cover the meaning that Ra gives the word.
Can anyone help me on this one?

Thanks
Lotta

[E. Drake]

Gutentag Lotta,

Your attempt at understanding the Loo through a German/English framework is
admirable given that even we, with English as our native tongue, also struggle
at times with Ra, the Loo, and their terminology.

Transient may also mean inconsequential, insignificant, or of little to no
importance.



Drake


lottacontinuum <lottacontinuum@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=I8_-uiIb2Huz_tdHzCzpQCmq8GgQaj0WmUB65J97HaMwf5ErV_q1qx XgiSBoWzb-hut_Evj9gJ9UqxE2)> wrote:
Here`s another one of the phrases that I don`t thoroughly understand
in the Ra material: The use of the word "transient".
In my english/german dictionary it is discribed as something
that "passes by" or is "not lasting".

but these explanations don`t seem to cover the meaning that Ra gives the word.
Can anyone help me on this one?

Thanks
Lotta










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[Monica Leal]

My interpretation of 'transient' as used by Ra indicates info that was
irrelevant to Ra's objective, which was the disemmination of some very
specific information, the Law of One.

The more recent channelings available at llresearch.org seem to focus
more on the applications of the LoO, as relate to our daily lives.
These contain valuable info on dealing with emotions, dealing with
other-selves, etc.

These issues would have been considered 'transient' during the Ra
channelings. However, they are no less important. Transient does not
mean 'unimportant' since all of us deal with transient issues on a
daily basis. It's just that there were/are plenty of other sources of
good info dealing with transient issues, and if Ra had allowed the
dialog to get diverted into such issues, they would not have been able
to accomplish their objective of getting the LoO info transmitted.

The Law of One is not transient because it transcends personal
concerns and the details of this lifetime - it deals with concepts
that are eternal.

How to APPLY the Law of One in our lives, however, while seemingly
transient, is crucially important.

--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=BQcm8n2DoMT8yDBVYfXacRiCHvAF9fC3XrpqYf 0vaECztquqsfI34vE8VLUNl4b4AWFFaz4RBQ_Zh-U), "lottacontinuum" <lottacontinuum@w...>
wrote:
>
> Here`s another one of the phrases that I don`t thoroughly understand
> in the Ra material: The use of the word "transient".
> In my english/german dictionary it is discribed as something
> that "passes by" or is "not lasting".
>

[Pi]

--- <lotta> wrote: Here`s another one of the phrases that I don`t
thoroughly understand in the Ra material: The use of the
word "transient". In my english/german dictionary it is discribed as
something that "passes by" or is "not lasting".
but these explanations don`t seem to cover the meaning that Ra gives
the word. Can anyone help me on this one?


Pi: Wie gehts Ihnen, Frau Lotta? Ich kann nur ein bischen Deutsche,
warum vor acht und dreizig jahre habe ich bei der Lufthansa
gearbeiten und im Frankfurt-am-Mein gewohnt!

In the LoO books, transient can be interpreted as the antonym of the
meaning in the following excerpt that's given for NON-TRANSIENT,
which i put in caps.

Bk 2, Session 37, 3/12/81
Questioner: I have been very hesitant to ask certain questions for
fear that they would be regarded, as I regard them, as questions of
unimportance or too great a specificity and thereby reduce our
contact with you. In order to disseminate some of the information
that I consider to be of extreme importance; that is, the non-
transient type of information, INFORMATION HAVING TO DO WITH
EVOLUTION OF MIND, BODY, AND SPIRIT, it seems almost necessary in our
society to include information that is of little value simply because
that is how our society works, how the system of distribution
appraises that which is offered for distribution. Will you comment on
this problem that I have?
Ra: I am Ra. We comment as follows: It is quite precisely correct
that the level and purity of this contact is dependent upon the level
and purity of information sought. Thusly, the continued requests for
specific information from this particular source is deleterious to
the substance of your purpose. Moreover, as we scanned your mind to
grasp your situation as regards the typescript of some of our words,
we found that you had been criticized for the type of language
construction used to convey data. Due to our orientation with regard
to data, even the most specifically answered question would be worded
by our group in such a way as to maximize the accuracy of the nuances
of the answer. This, however, mitigates against what your critic
desires in the way of simple, lucid prose. More than this we cannot
say. These are our observations of your situation. What you wish to
do is completely your decision and we remain at your service in
whatever way we may be without breaking the Way of Confusion.


So if non-transient refers to information having to do with evolution
of mind, body, and spirit, i'd suppose transient refers to all other
types of information. Here's an excerpt referring to an example:

Bk 3, Session 51, 5/13/81
Questioner: This next question I feel to be a transient type of
question; however, it has been asked me by one whom I have
communicated with who has been involved intensely in the UFO portion
of the phenomenon. If you deem it too transient or unimportant we'll
skip it, but I have been asked how it is possible for the craft of
the fourth-density to get here since it seems that as you approach
the velocity of light the mass approaches infinity. My question would
be why craft would be necessary at all?
Ra: I am Ra. You have asked several questions. We shall respond in
turn. Firstly, we agree that this material is transient....

i am not sure if the same meaning would apply to other transcripts.

peace & love, pi

[lottacontinuum]

Hello Pi,

> Pi: Wie gehts Ihnen, Frau Lotta? Ich kann nur ein bischen Deutsche,
> warum vor acht und dreizig jahre habe ich bei der Lufthansa
> gearbeiten und im Frankfurt-am-Mein gewohnt!

Very good Pi! So with Drake and you, I can even exchange some
german words here on the list! But what is even greater is the thought,
that I am talking to humans whose souls have travelled a long way
through numerous planets and lifetimes and finally arrived here at
the same space/time-slot on this planet as I have. Isn`t that unbelievable?

> Ra: I am Ra. We comment as follows: It is quite precisely correct
> that the level and purity of this contact is dependent upon the level
> and purity of information sought. Thusly, the continued requests for
> specific information from this particular source is deleterious to
> the substance of your purpose.

This is quite interesting. It seems that the contact also mirrors the channeling
group. If the
questions are asked out of fear for example or out of another ego distortion,
then the
contact gets disturbed or maybe even changed in vibration to match the
questioners
better. So it seems that one can only hold a high contact like this one, when
one really
tries to live that talk.

But I think I understood the meaning of transient now. :-)

Thanks
Lotta

[lottacontinuum]

Hi Drake,

> Your attempt at understanding the Loo through a German/English framework is
admirable given that even we, with English as our native tongue, also struggle
at times
with Ra, the Loo, and their terminology.

It is hard sometimes, but I have the feeling that some of the material is not
exclusively
transported through words, but that the higher self also helps and that I
"feel" the
meaning sometimes more than I actually understand it intellectually. But still,
it would be
such a gift if the "law of one" would be translated....maybe the request from
foreign
language readers will be high enough someday so that a publisher will publish it
in a
couple of more languages.

> Transient may also mean inconsequential, insignificant, or of little to no
importance.

Thanks!
Lotta

[E. Drake]

lottacontinuum <lottacontinuum@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=eG9aO54f0fQqsAJDkqOTGY9BiPItNsepm0VX2m uMkoSSNqNa_UEm7j4WQDSV5JVVTkLrYwM2o-PZKlE)> wrote:

Lotta: ....Very good Pi! So with Drake and you, I can even exchange some german
words here on the list!



Drake: Vielen Dank Lotta und Hallo. Pi sprecht auch Deutsch? Also dann, sehr
gut. Wir drei konnen al verwundert sein.

(Thank you Lotta and hello. Pi speaks German too? Very good then. All three of
us can be equally amazed and in wonder.)

__________________________________________________ _____________



Lotta:...This is quite interesting. It seems that the contact

also mirrors the channeling group. If the questions are asked out of fear for
example or out of another ego distortion, then the contact gets disturbed or
maybe even changed in vibration to match the questioners better. So it seems
that one can only hold a high contact like this one, when one really tries to
live that talk.




Drake: Thank you for this too Lota. It is a wonderful find. It speaks very
precisely to another post earlier I made as to the "source" of the Ra Material,
and to us in honoring it as the "narrow band communication" we presumably
believe it to be, and that, in my humble opinion, "all" other channeled material
to date I have ever encountered, has "all" been either fluff to false at worst,
or questionable to mixed to not as clean at best, this as a result of the
"Hubris Band" interfering with the "Narrow Band" , as it were, making for noise
as opposed to music.



Noch ein mal Lotta, veilen dank,

(Once more, Lotta, thank you)



Drake














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[Pi]

> Lotta: ....Very good Pi! So with Drake and you, I can even
exchange some german words here on the list!

> Drake: Vielen Dank Lotta und Hallo. Pi sprecht auch Deutsch? Also
dann, sehr gut. Wir drei konnen al verwundert sein.
(Thank you Lotta and hello. Pi speaks German too? Very good then. All
three of us can be equally amazed and in wonder.)


Pi: Vielen Dank fur diese Worten freundliche. Ich war aus Mittwoch
abwesend und 'offline'. (<--- worte Deutsche?).

> Lotta:...This is quite interesting. It seems that the contact also
mirrors the channeling group. If the questions are asked out of fear
for example or out of another ego distortion, then the contact gets
disturbed or maybe even changed in vibration to match the questioners
better. So it seems that one can only hold a high contact like this
one, when one really tries to live that talk.

> Drake: Thank you for this too Lotta. It is a wonderful find. It
speaks very precisely to another post earlier I made as to the source
of the Ra Material, and to us in honoring it as "the narrow band
communication" we presumably believe it to be, and that, in my humble
opinion, "all" other channeled material to date I have ever
encountered, has "all" been either fluff to false at worst, or
questionable to mixed to not as clean at best, this as a result of
the "Hubris Band" interfering with the "Narrow Band", as it were,
making for noise as opposed to music.
> Noch ein mal Lotta, veilen dank,
> (Once more, Lotta, thank you)


Pi: In one instance, Ra credits access of channeling sessions to (1)
purity of desire (of Don, Carla, Jim) to serve the One & (2) energy
created by application of the rule (or law?) of 'power of squares' to
the energy flow generated by the 3 individually. As i recall, Ra says
all 3 had to be present to attain the level of sensitivity needed to
attune to vibrations of a 6d channel. This helps explain why records
of contact with Ra subsequent to Don's death rarely occur.

But it also implies that conditions could be met to that would permit
futher channeling communications by Ra.

Many Edgar Cayce trances ended abruptly. When queried in a subsequent
session, the Source usually attributed premature disruptions to loss
of focus (inattentiveness) by the subject for whom the query was made
(even if a subject was not present) or loss of desire for the purpose
of a query by someone in EC's presence.

In principle, i fully agree with you, mz. drake. i am thankful for
including a point of polarity by references to "all", giving Pi an
opportunity to again balance thread polarity, albeit quite logically
& reasonably. <grin again> Logically, because all is invisible to a
beholder of infinity. Unreasonable, since noise & music are yin/yang
like beauty & beast --errr, i mean beauty & unattractive. (Ugly is a
construct symbolizing unappreciation of beauty, as hate is a symbol
or unappreciation of love.)

peace & love, pi

[E. Drake]

Pi <johnnypi@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=6qfuwtSaUxA3Bx1P-8_0J8fo6Ur-_F9qtw0fTXIR_o5CB59o-vqQVJZ_rZ8fr0W-moln72m5GwlNyKbE)> wrote

In principle, i fully agree with you, mz. drake. i am thankful for including a
point of polarity by references to "all", giving Pi an
opportunity to again balance thread polarity, albeit quite logically &
reasonably. <grin again> Logically, because all is invisible to a
beholder of infinity. Unreasonable, since noise & music are yin/yang like beauty
& beast --errr, i mean beauty & unattractive. (Ugly is a construct symbolizing
unappreciation of beauty, as hate is a symbol or unappreciation of love.)

peace & love, pi


_______________________________________________

Hola Pi...I mean Hallo Pi...oder soll ich lieber Pi schreiben?

In any case, as to the yin/yang principles of constructs symbolizing opposites
in duality, it must be noted without attachment that "Mz." then is likewise in
kind, following the sequence and thread of logic proffered, the construct
symbolizing "Mr." unappreciated, which in fact I am all too often ,
'unappreciated' I mean, as every time I check for affirmation and validation to
the former in southerly direction, approximation, and constellation, I am in
fact always a "Mr". ,,,,you may then henceforth consequently and forever more
refer to me as "Mr. Unappreciated Drake", a construct symbolizing the
unappreciation of Mz. , notwithstanding the bifurcated truth to the latter of
the construct of "unapprecitaed Drake" in symbolism.

Your humor is appreciated, guffawed at, and in reciprocal form and fashion a
construct symbolizing the unappreciation of the all too serious side of
seriousness.

Seriously, all seriousness aside,

Drake




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[Pi]

Ach so, Herr Drake! Gros unrichtig. Es tut mir leid!
The only German proverb i recall also may be germane: Mensch denkt,
Gott lenkt... (man proposes God disposes.) lol
in appreciation of my deleriously unserious of unappreciation for the
whole-ness of shared symbolic interactionism, i sow love & peace. pi


Pi had written: ...noise & music are yin/yang like beauty & beast --
errr, i mean beauty & unattractive. (Ugly is a construct symbolizing
unappreciation of beauty, as hate is a symbol or unappreciation of
love.)


Drake replied: it must be noted without attachment that "Mz." then is
likewise in kind, following the sequence and thread of logic
proffered, the construct symbolizing "Mr." unappreciated, which in
fact I am all too often, 'unappreciated' I mean, as every time I
check for affirmation and validation to the former in southerly
direction, approximation, and constellation, I am in fact always
a "Mr". ,,,,you may then henceforth consequently and forever more
refer to me as "Mr. Unappreciated Drake", a construct symbolizing
the unappreciation of Mz., notwithstanding the bifurcated truth to
the latter of the construct of "unappreciated Drake" in symbolism.
Your humor is appreciated, guffawed at, and in reciprocal form and
fashion a construct symbolizing the unappreciation of the all too
serious side of seriousness.
Seriously, all seriousness aside,