to david in regards to ancient civilizations

[waymon smith]

because my knowledge of avenues to get new theories out in the public is
lacking, im writing to david in hopes that he could get this idea where it needs
to be if it proves worthwhile. i believe that lemuria has become the
subcontinent india. if you look at maps of pangaea, the super continent, youll
notice a huge island continent in the indian ocean exactly where lemuria suppose
to be. further in the future that island disappears from its location and india
pops up on the map out of nowhere! i believe some time in the past lemuria
merged with the eurasian continent and formed india. if this is true there
should be some geographical evidence...there is. when two landmasses join
together mountains are formed. in this case those mountains are the himalayas!!
also pangaea would explain some anomalies weve encountered. why was there an
olmec head with negroid features found in mesoamerica? because in pangaea
mesoamerica was attached to the left of africa! this also explains why animals
from different continents have been found huddled in mass grave sites together!
they were originally apart of the same supercontinent. there is more anomalies
thatll be solved if this theory pans out. two problems one will encounter with
this theory is that humans havent been around that long, and pangaea was
millions of years ago. this too can be answered with modern evidence. there have
been human footprints found alongside dinosaur footprints showing we just maybe
alot older than we thought. also pangaea was built on the outdated
uniformitarianist thinking that things happen gradually over long periods of
time i.e. evolution and continental drift. what if the cataclysmic geologists
are right and thinks happen swiftly after huge cataclysms. then pangaea doesnt
have to be so old and could have been destroyed in a huge cataclysm.



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--- waymon smith <vice797979@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=hzxm6nxdxmcjdxc0q8vhx-1zu_t0fd3qdu1ywibjahtj6qk_2obxn1oqkwij93dmo6o-ri_a6v46rttjha)> wrote:

i believe that lemuria has become the subcontinent
india.
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thomas: greetings & salutations waymon. i cannot give
exact answers to support that which you seek, but i
congratulate you on/in your efforts to debunk "common
sense" or "revisionist history" as it exists in our
world today. there are forces at work in this world
who wish to continually keep us in the dark (no pun
intended) as to our "true" past, and forever disengage
us from the process(es) of true spiritual
enlightenment & ultimately, ascension itself. dw has
gone a long way to putting all of this scattered
information together for everyone, and his efforts are
greatly appreciated, as is evidenced in this wonderful
forum. he himself, will not take credit for all of
this work, as much of what he has printed/spoken
of/written in the past is the result of many, many
individuals' work across the globe. his work is a
living embodiment to "the law of one," which is the
nature of the universe. "all is one" is that
nature..............but it is a collective one at
that, and no one individual achieves any such
thing..............only through a concertive effort in
a common goal. at the risk of being long-winded (of
which i am oh-so-woefully guilty of most of the time)
i will give you some of links that should help you on
not only your spiritual path, but for historical &
sociological perspectives as well............

first, and probably the most obvious, would be to
visit dw's website & check out the three of his
"e-books"................a veritable cornucopiea of
information abounds there........

second, would be to visit http://llresearch.org &
click on their "search" link...........type in
"lemuria" or "mu" and you'll see all the articles that
contain that reference, some being in "the law of one"
themselves.......caveat: even though you are looking
for physical evidence (i.e. a fossil, or some
wonderful cuneiform tablet, or whatever) be aware that
you are on a metaphysical journey here, and much of
what you seek is not only of the physical realm, but
that which is beyond as well................the inner
will provide for the outer, more so than the opposite,
if that makes any sense.

third, check out one of my favorite sites (besides
dw's own site), http://www.grahamhancock.com which is
mostly about egypt, but he has delved into global
ancient civilizations as well, and if you are not
satisfied with all that he has to offer there, then
check out his links page, which is rather extensive in
information on global civilizations, in and of itself.

and that is about all i will offer at this time. i
have more links, but i will stop there. this is my
official "pointing in that direction" moment of the
day. i could write & write & write here, give you link
after link after link, to gather information on that
which you seek, but, ultimately it is your journey. i
would like to think that starting with those three
will lead you to countless other links, and countless
other discussions, and countless other
journies..............all along the path to
self-enlightenment.........and for that thought alone
i get a warm tummy & goosebumps all over!

i wish you well in your journey my
friend..............

~ thomas



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[M.W.]

hi, waymond, those are most interesting speculations, however there
is one "fact" mentioned that you should probably delete....

... "this too can be answered with modern evidence. there have
been human footprints found alongside dinosaur footprints showing we
just maybe a lot older than we thought"

or dinosaurs around a lot longer?

this mutual footprint evidence has supposedly been debunked. some
skeptic's wryly claim it stems from the eager imagination of
avid "creationists". anyway, it is arguably wrong so best not used.

i can't help but think of the beyond-herculean job going on
somewhere in the cosmos ... the huge task of fashioning a complete
replicate earth. a duplicate planet that, i assume, will even have
added fossile records and evidences of ancient civilizations -- all
this to accomodate non-harvestable 3d'rs from a soon to be vanished
3d earth,

of course one the the christian's fundamentalist's defenses against
the idea of evolution -- with its embarrasing evidence of the fossile
record -- is that "the devil did it!"; why? "well, all the better to
confuse us, dear hearts!"

so i do wonder...in some future time, on an earth #2, will this
argument come up again? i think i can hear it now! listen up!

hark ye all!!! evolution is a lie! the fossiles are clever
counterfeits! do not pay heed or creedence to these filthy things! i
tell you truthfully that they were only recently put deep into the
earth just to fool us, to make our faith waver! how did this happen?
here is god's truth for your ears! this horrible deception was done
by satan's minions -- those that scripture call, the demonic
positive polarities! and, "why"? you ask again. my dear
children....only to confuse us from knowing the truth and to make you
fail to make the coming harvest. remember! when taking the great
exam the right answer and glorius truth is that great diety created
us in only six days!

any other questions?

(:>)

just curious, and wondering. inquiring minds sometimes need to be
shut off,so,,,

goonite

billybobwhowillprobablynotmakeitandwillbefindingfo ssilsonearth#2.


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>
> because my knowledge of avenues to get new theories out in the
public is lacking, im writing to david in hopes that he could get
this idea where it needs to be if it proves worthwhile. i believe
that lemuria has become the subcontinent india.

[waymon smith]

hello bill, im curious as to just how was the footprints debunked. with what
evidence did they conclude with convidence that the footprints either wasn't
human or was made on a different timeline as the dinosaurs. you stated that the
skeptics claim it stems from eager imaginations of avid creationists but what
proof do they offer. the proponents of the footprints offer evidence in the way
of photos. not only that but the footprints have been found in a variety of
places including glen rose, texas, mountains of new mexico, tuba city, arizona,
and turkmenistan. were all of these the product of eager imaginations?

"m.w. (bill )gieskieng" <skykieng@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=ignypssrzhf_dadkuvpeznmptuene_6uvewaqi il8u7_iwkcd7bed7pm09svnoccog6dg8e325-mya)> wrote:
hi, waymond, those are most interesting speculations, however there
is one "fact" mentioned that you should probably delete....

... "this too can be answered with modern evidence. there have
been human footprints found alongside dinosaur footprints showing we
just maybe a lot older than we thought"

or dinosaurs around a lot longer?

this mutual footprint evidence has supposedly been debunked. some
skeptic's wryly claim it stems from the eager imagination of
avid "creationists". anyway, it is arguably wrong so best not used.

[M.W.]

this goes back several years when i was doing a study on the
evolution controversy, and i would have to do some digging to find it.

you might try a google and see what comes up.

as i remember the prints involved were found in texas. i believe
that the doubt was directed to the prints being humanoid. in any case
it might be best to concentrate elsewhere rather than becoming
involved in petty controversy.

bill g



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>
> hello bill, im curious as to just how was the footprints debunked.
with what evidence did they conclude with convidence that the
footprints either wasn't human or was made on a different timeline as
the dinosaurs. you stated that the skeptics claim it stems from
eager imaginations of avid creationists but what proof do they
offer. the proponents of the footprints offer evidence in the way of
photos. not only that but the footprints have been found in a
variety of places including glen rose, texas, mountains of new
mexico, tuba city, arizona, and turkmenistan. were all of these the
product of eager imaginations?

[E. Drake]

i am reminded with respect to this thread of the cayce readings with regard to "
huimans living in the times of dinasours" converastion. to those of you
familira with the cayce readings, i would ask for some participatory recall on
this subject as well. i had in fact been a fan of cayce for quite some time. it
was he who in fact introduced me to ra over tea one afternoon. the two got along
quite splendidly in fact. but i digress. the point being that in one of the
cayce readings, in a book entitled "cayce on atlantis" i believe, the more
developed and advanced nations/continents gathered together in council to
resolve the continuing menace that the lage creatures imposed upon man. they
resloved to be rid of them.

this hardly serves as scientific evidence to the fact attesting to the age of
man, but it has been written and mentioned in other sources such as cayce.

faithfully,

drake


waymon smith <vice797979@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=tbph-3f06vy2j0mjycgapetynth7woljtykxv4ttffnsuld3a_vodju iqqzrodwykkyxwx9neny2ww)> wrote:
hello bill, im curious as to just how was the footprints debunked.

"m.w. (bill )gieskieng" <skykieng@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=en0o5td_lmbkjel9g7wtnbteybe3ka51iybk8v sqi120lvpqtwgikz-sfxqtgalptylyo-a-cn4gxti)> wrote:
this mutual footprint evidence has supposedly been debunked. some
skeptic's wryly claim it stems from the eager imagination of
avid "creationists". anyway, it is arguably wrong so best not used.

[M.W.]

yeah, deep,

i can recall reading the bit you mention below about eliminating the
big fauna from the flora. my memory keeps nudging me that there was
some negative kick-back resulting from the attempt.

i just tried a google on, cayce dinosaurs, and some likely urls came
up but my 'puter connection is off and i couldn't open up the
material.

best. billybosaurus



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>
> i am reminded with respect to this thread of the cayce readings
with regard to " huimans living in the times of dinasours"
converastion. to those of you familira with the cayce readings, i
would ask for some participatory recall on this subject as well. i
had in fact been a fan of cayce for quite some time. it was he who
in fact introduced me to ra over tea one afternoon. the two got along
quite splendidly in fact. but i digress. the point being that in one
of the cayce readings, in a book entitled "cayce on atlantis" i
believe, the more developed and advanced nations/continents gathered
together in council to resolve the continuing menace that the lage
creatures imposed upon man. they resloved to be rid of them.
>
> this hardly serves as scientific evidence to the fact attesting to
the age of man, but it has been written and mentioned in other
sources such as cayce.
>
> faithfully,
>
> drake
>
>
> waymon smith <vice797979@y...> wrote:
> hello bill, im curious as to just how was the footprints debunked.
>
> "m.w. (bill )gieskieng" <skykieng@i...> wrote:
> this mutual footprint evidence has supposedly been debunked. some
> skeptic's wryly claim it stems from the eager imagination of
> avid "creationists". anyway, it is arguably wrong so best not used.
>