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Tarzan
09-25-2001, 08:28 AM
from: bjorn_nitmou@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=uorvp7tx7frygnt3dpuhnikizy49jqeyurz3va 3zwgnaj9qw9sgpvkz9jsq2jsgyfjrmk72wcx3sdultglwt) http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/wtcface.htm#add
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bjorn,

thank you for the link. man, if those photos are as genuine as claimed,
then they are stunning, indeed.

they are not, however, elementals, since the energies known as "elementals"
are essentially peaceful beings who are involved with the basic funcions of
living beings/energies on our planet. they are focused on life, not death,
nor fear. the elementals are in charge of the natural life as we know it.
if they were to go on strike, the planet would cease to be habitable for
most creatures in 48 hours. the elementals are the unsung heros in their
support for the sustenance of the ongoing saga of life on earth. the
elementals are one of the triad that are responsible for the
creation/management of life on earth; the other two are humans and beings of
the 1st/2nd densities, as i understand it.

if these faces did, in fact, happen as shown, then they are the ones of the
dark forces showing its face to the world in the kind of event that they
just love, for it shows the power that they have, or, more importantly, the
power that we give them, based on the belief systems of the masses, all of
whom are, on some level, co-creating this mass event of trrr. if you are
aware of it, you are part of the creation of it. this event is a gift to us
showing in a very powerful way how much energy we, as a whole, invest in
dark thoughts/energies. the dark forces are not to be hated, but to be seen
as an important mirroring aspect of the distorted energies of the one.

i have a sense that this event is a pivotal event in which the
immediate(next several years, if that)future probabilities that would occur
are pivoted on the responses to this seminal event. so far the responses
has been towards more hate and war, which would cause more of the same to
happen in american soil, which would trigger more hatred/war etc., until
enough people awaken to the folly of hatred/war. many people are already
awakened to the folly of it, but not enough to influence the mass
consciousness--yet. but maybe after several more awful events in american
soil, some of the masses of people will begin to awaken and ponder on the
folly of vlnce/wr and the value of awareness and forgiveness.

so at this early stage of the unfolding of these events, it is absolutely
imperative, i feel, that the group of people, known as the cultural
creatives, who are now 50-million strong, who, as a whole, oppose any
retributional acts of vlnce/wr in response to this seminal event in noo yawk
and dee cee, to stand up and speak out wherever they can in favor of peace
and in opposition to vlnce/wr. some are already doing that; many more are
needed.

we can use more "senseless acts of love"...we can plant seeds of peace in
moments of connection with those of the masses by focusing on solutions of
peace and understanding the reality of how/why this event and subsequent
events have happened.

in peace,

seth

Jeremy Weiland
09-26-2001, 10:20 AM
this is interesting. i've never heard anything about
elementals other than david's and your posts on the
topic. i always thought that elementals were 1d
lifeforms such as rocks and stuff, but i've never
given it much thought. can somebody point me to an
info source on this stuff?

thanks,

jeremy


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ibphyb@...
09-26-2001, 12:48 PM
in a message dated 9/26/2001 12:28:03 pm eastern daylight time,
tarzan@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=52xwyugjnfhatystn8t48nflit6ki3srvf5mdv vbjs7nbpah7mw7okvzf2uomw5wbfmcz3zk_cnung) writes:
<< many people are already awakened to the folly of it, but not enough to
influence the mass consciousness--yet. but maybe after several more awful
events in american soil, some of the masses of people will begin to awaken
and ponder on the folly of vlnce/wr and the value of awareness and
forgiveness. >>
---
seth, i enjoyed your mail and i, too, felt in the beginning that those of us
wanting peace would not be able to make a difference in such a way to stop
the wheels of war already set in motion. now, i am not so sure. i have
written about the scientifc global consciousness project research work at
princeton university that one of the group members mentioned a day or so ago
(noosphere@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=0tietzpw8vx9umvytpa2ko7bz-jw7q-typa3bsl1kjvwyktgr0hu8r_hc2gxklot8fmp1u2m1kui1ycz-w)). if you go into this site and look at the
measurements of the "mass consciousness" immediately before, during and after
the attacks on the 11th, it is almost unbelievable. once the researchers
began to see such drastic spikes in their readings, they paid particular
attention to what would happen during the national day of prayer. i believe
they specifically looked at the first three mintues of the prayer vigil and
the effects were significant and noticeable immediately! their conclusions
were that when large numbers of people do maintain a focus, it affects their
readings around the world.

on the oprah show today, which was marvelous, people were urged to "think"
about what is going on - to wake up. the theme was that we can make a
difference if we choose to stand in love, forgiveness and peace. marianne
williamson suggested that we choose to not return to normal as we are being
urged, but to continue our focus on healing and that we keep national days of
prayer. she put it in a way that really resonated with me: we are hearing
about "cells of the trrsts" so why not create "cells of peace?" is that
something that we could do on this egroup, as well as in our home
communities?. would members of this egroup like to lead the way and become
one "cell.?" could we set up a time, maybe noon, each day when we could all
stop for just a few minutes to pray and envision peace? to make peace
possible, it is important that we bring large numbers of people together to
hold that focus. then we can all go to the princeton site and see results.

phyllis

anupama
09-27-2001, 05:20 AM
phyllis,
"could we set up a time, maybe noon, each day when we could all
stop for just a few minutes to pray and envision peace? to make peace
possible, it is important that we bring large numbers of people together to hold
that focus. then we can all go to the princeton site and see results."
<i am with you on this. i have had many people contact me to talk about the
attack and i try to keep a positive perspective and it seems to lighten the
hearts of these folks. i think and i am planning on uniting my little circle of
friends here at home and i would love to pray/meditate with ya'll.
love and peace,
donna

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lynn51
09-27-2001, 11:50 AM
do a search on machaelle small wright . she has done a great deal
of work with the elementals and has many books about it.she self
publishes - some may be found in book stores. map is a book for
example , explaining how you set up a medical assistance program to
help you with whatever ails you,(including psycholological , emotional
problems) the team you call in consists of specific elementals and
white brotherhood members. it is a wonderful process . other books
deal with gardening -where she teaches how to talk to the elementals
using kineseology to produce great gardening results. and another
where you balance your microbes instead of killing them with
antibiotics, also clearing trauma from an area of land, etc.the
elementals help you with this too.this last book is highly endorsed by
one of the men who discovered one of the basic antibiotics that we
have overused. he says basically that her methods are our saving grace
from the problem of having over-used antibiotics.

--- in asc2k@y..., jeremy weiland <greenlantern113@y...> wrote:
> this is interesting. i've never heard anything about
> elementals other than david's and your posts on the
> topic.
>
> jeremy
>
>
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u2bsweet2me@...
09-28-2001, 02:19 AM
elementals are also existent in toltec tradition. the generic name
for elementals are called tlaloques. tlaloques are many and varied!
one of the interesting habits of tlaloques are to build upon human
emotions and mental forms. for instance, when we think of building or
acting upon something, tlaloques are anxious to bring form, to build
and add upon those thought forms. our consciousness resonates at
certain frequency and so attracts tlaloques that compliment and work
with that frequency. a healer would attract a certain kind of
tlaloque and a farmer would attract another kind of tlaloque. a dark
aspect of this is that there are other tlaloques that are eager to
build upon dark human thought forms of war and affliction as well .

this reality brought forth a consciousness to the toltecs that
thoughts must be exceedingly ordered in two ways. one way is to order
linear thought forms with will in what is called the tonal, everyday
conscious reality. the other way in non-linear time and describes the
reality of the nagual. dreams and reveries come close to the
boundaries of the tonal where the physical universe is bounded by the
nagual. most human beings at the present time find it difficult to
accept the nagual and the responsibility for the sub-conscious mind.
the nagual is more difficult to address and so the nagual is
therefore ordered by intent. modern man seldom orders the linear or
the non-linear realities within oneself and therefore we are poor
weavers of time. the seventh dimension requires us to order linear
and non-linear time with a brilliant consciousness that orders the
tonal and nagual universes in efficiency and congruency. with well
developed order we will be able to choose to weave congruent time
lines to bring abundant beauty and sustenance!

--- in asc2k@y..., lesta@s... wrote:
> do a search on machaelle small wright . she has done a great deal
> of work with the elementals and has many books about it.she self
> publishes - some may be found in book stores. map is a book for
> example , explaining how you set up a medical assistance program to
> help you with whatever ails you,(including psycholological ,
emotional
> problems) the team you call in consists of specific elementals and
> white brotherhood members. it is a wonderful process . other books
> deal with gardening -where she teaches how to talk to the
elementals
> using kineseology to produce great gardening results. and another
> where you balance your microbes instead of killing them with
> antibiotics, also clearing trauma from an area of land, etc.the
> elementals help you with this too.this last book is highly endorsed
by
> one of the men who discovered one of the basic antibiotics that we
> have overused. he says basically that her methods are our saving
grace
> from the problem of having over-used antibiotics.
>
> --- in asc2k@y..., jeremy weiland <greenlantern113@y...> wrote:
> > this is interesting. i've never heard anything about
> > elementals other than david's and your posts on the
> > topic.
> >
> > jeremy
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > do you yahoo!?
> > get email alerts & new webcam video instant messaging with yahoo!
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