The use of the Words of Don Juan and Other threads!

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i became involved in this board in order to learn david's perspective
and how this knowledge relates to my own tradition. i have never come
to this board and tried to challenge, dilute, change or instruct. i
have made a few posts and the issue of wtc conflict roused my fingers
to type. i really enjoy this board, i think it is important to listen
alot more than to speak. i am 18 years nagual of a toltec jaguar
lineage that has a direct pre-colombian inheritance. our origins are
near vercruz which is pre-toltec, at least 1200 years in duration. i
seek commonality with asc2k and there exists great commonality,
different terminology but the same heart! i really enjoy the open
forum! i hope that you keep the open forum, i would like to be able
to communicate using your terminology! the looming crisis is like all
crisis a wakeup call to ascend, to see the world from fresh eyes. we
must use even our tears to help us overcome the conditions of our
world and through service and leadership forge a path that ascends.
like the hundredth monkey principle, those that are truly ascendent
will evoke a path of ascendency with heart. i believe that david is
providing a forum for such to be accomplished! thank you david!

[David Wilcock]

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i became involved in this board in order to learn david's perspective
and how this knowledge relates to my own tradition.

dw: that's the right reason to be here. :)

i have never come
to this board and tried to challenge, dilute, change or instruct. i
have made a few posts and the issue of wtc conflict roused my fingers
to type.

dw: my father is a vietnam veteran. it is an unfortunate reality that while
we are in 3d, it is very difficult to avoid physical conflicts.

i really enjoy this board, i think it is important to listen
alot more than to speak. i am 18 years nagual of a toltec jaguar
lineage that has a direct pre-colombian inheritance. our origins are
near vercruz which is pre-toltec, at least 1200 years in duration. i
seek commonality with asc2k and there exists great commonality,
different terminology but the same heart!

dw: amplifying similarities instead of differences is the goal here. the
ascension into 4d+ is so simple to make, relatively speaking. i'm not here
to try to teach a select few how to make a 5,6 or 7d ascension... i'm here
predominantly for the common people. the people need truth, not status quo,
and this work can eliminate a great deal of confusion as to exactly what is
occurring on the earth at this time.

a nagual studies and experiences the archetypal mind through a cultural
context. i've worked with my dreams for so long now that i can see the many
ways in which the metaphors of the higher planes can be expressed, and my
readings often use metaphorical language to train people in understanding
its usage.

i was getting therapeutic massage today (tomorrow is my 9-year anniversary
of sobriety, btw) and i had a knot in my neck, on the left side. the
therapist asked me what that was, and i immediately got that i hadn't been
respecting myself enough. so your points are well-taken. if i had more
self-respect the warring and dissension from a small but vocal few wouldn't
have gone on anywhere near this long.

i really enjoy the open
forum! i hope that you keep the open forum, i would like to be able
to communicate using your terminology!

dw: for the time being and my current popularity level, it shall remain
open. if we get a slew of vandals in our future we may need to go closed,
but everyone here could still participate just the same... it would simply
be a little more complex to get one's foot in the door.

the looming crisis is like all
crisis a wakeup call to ascend, to see the world from fresh eyes. we
must use even our tears to help us overcome the conditions of our
world and through service and leadership forge a path that ascends.

dw: i was a bit hasty in how soon i thought society would deconstruct, and
the next article in progress will explain how i'm now seeing humanity in a
"fractal" sense as a complex adaptive system. the fact is, the sun rises and
sets, the oceans rage, the rivers flow, plants grow and we have many, many
intelligent and resourceful people. if the current way of doing things
collapses that isn't cause for alarm... humans are amazingly adaptable
creatures and we'll sort it out for our own good prior to the vortex
opening. i'm also going to mention that worldwide benefit concert that aired
friday night, which i thought was the most useful thing i've seen on tv in a
very long time... what little tv i ever see.

>like the hundredth monkey principle, those that are truly ascendent
will evoke a path of ascendency with heart. i believe that david is
providing a forum for such to be accomplished! thank you david!

dw: the scientific data doesn't come with a dogma in tow. it is up to each
person to discern how the energy systems in the universe are functioning and
then to find out how they interrelate with that. as can be seen in the last
two or three chapters of convergence iii now online, this same system of
physics is seen in almost all ancient cultures with remarkable similarity.
so it carries very little weight when someone barges in here and says it's
all useless bs. some of the later castenada books have wonderful, accurate
descriptions of how this energy system works. find the science, see the
system, it's all there waiting to be re-discovered.

mitakuye oyasin,

- david