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Ron Erickson
08-06-2005, 03:55 PM
I haven't had a regular source of income for several years, so I have mostly
left the experience of shopping malls and consumerism behind. Still, on the
rare event that I go to shop, I feel like an outsider - an outsider to
people who practically live in shopping malls, and an outsider to people
rushing to attend to families and the daily pilgrimage in automobiles to
their source of consumer sustenance - their jobs in corporate palaces. I've
never owned a car, and I've become an outsider to the culture of the
"consumerist orgy", the perceived necessity for constant consumption and
constant income and of pacifism. This is life and a lifestyle within an
illusion presented as a multimedia feast to the senses, through all forms of
media, but it seems there is, spiritually, little more than a void inside.

I often feel most alone when I'm in a crowd - like I'm invisible. When I am
physically alone, I can feel isolated - especially when I can imagine deeply
connecting with another person. At least I can feel something inside - a
reminder that I can still have feelings. Sometimes, I actually feel
strangely connected when I'm "alone". I like to ride my bicycle at night -
to places where no one goes - to a park, a ravine, or a path by the lake -
so that I can hear the sounds that are usually hidden by city traffic noises
during the day. These create images in my mind of living spaces, of
connection and even of light. Chances are that if I met someone in this
setting, it would likely be a man who is looking for a brief "physical
encounter". (Well, I suppose everything has its place...) Regardless of
what we experience through our senses, we need to try to connect all of our
living moments with our passion within.

Below are some more Hawkwind lyrics. These also create, for me, images of
light and dark, thoughtfulness and passion.


Hawkwind lyrics for "Mirror of Illusion" (from the first album "Hawkwind",
1970)

In the cold grey-mask of morning I cry out
But no-one feels the sound that I shout
and you don't see me through the tears you've shed
and the dream-world that you've found
Will one day drag you down
The mirror of illusion reflects the smile

The world from your back door seems so wide
The house, so tiny it is from inside
A box that you're still living in
I cannot see for why
You think you've found perception's doors
They open to a lie


Hawkwind lyrics for "Magnu" (from the album "Warrior on the Edge of Time",
1975)

Magnu horse with golden mane
I want your help yet once again
Walk not the Earth but fly through space
As lightning flash or thunder's race
Swift as the arrow from the bow
Come to me so that no one can know,

Sunbeams are my shafts to kill,
All men who dare imagine ill
Deceit that fears the light of day
Fly from the glory of my ray
Good minds open and take new light
Until we diminish by the reign of night
A burning brand was seen to fall,
It lit the darkness of the hall
The flying hoof beats circling in,
Come to me and let us spin

Sunbeams are my shafts to kill,
All men who dare imagine ill
Deceit that fears the light of day
Fly from the glory of my ray
Good minds open and take new light
Until we diminish by the reign of night


Hawkwind lyrics for "You Know You're Only Dreaming" (from the album "In
Search of Space", 1971)

One more touch and then you'll see a world of hidden mystery,
Visions of you know you're only dreaming
Colours change, I stand upright
Screaming souls in the night
Visions of you know you're only dreaming
Chaos all within my mind
Wanna live with my kind
Visions of you know you're only dreaming.


Hawkwind lyrics for "Standing at the Edge" (from the album "Warrior on the
Edge of Time", 1975)

We're standing on the edge
The edge of time
And it is dark, so dark on the edge of time
And we're tired of making love
We are the lost
We are the ravaged
We are the unkind
We are the soldiers at the edge of time
And we're tired of making love
Where are our children
Where are our fathers
Where is our desire
And it's so cold on the edge of time
Where is our joy
Where is our hope
Where is our fire
And it's cold, so cold on the edge of time
We are the lost
We are the forgotten
We are the undying
We are the soldiers at the edge of time
The victims of thousands of psychic wars
We are the soldiers at the edge of time
The victims of the savage truth
We are the soldiers at the edge of time
And we're tired of making love


Ron

Pi
08-09-2005, 07:01 AM
Ron,
we are not [ever!] alone.
i've had no regular xource of income since 1993. i stopped viewing
consumer ads, going to malls & watching boob tubes circa 1995. this
created a bonanza of great fortune --i am now free to be the person
i choose to be. Autonomy is an invitation to a "brave new world" of
self-creation. Example: the status of being politically correct is
outside the box of normal behavior & may be a form of insanity.
it may be hepful to realize the (sur)reality of understanding that,
no body & no spirit & no thing is capable of being happy except self.
peace & love, johnny


--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=-qxEKyKIHjbWwAnhPAIRisLq8umlxvVoMqXH3-pnvfPp-X5IG8HVFMsblxDEdVP78zrEgz8K8-K-EpQ2r9JdMg), "Ron Erickson" <ronerick@i...> wrote:
I haven't had a regular source of income for several years, so I
have mostly left the experience of shopping malls and consumerism
behind. Still, on the rare event that I go to shop, I feel like an
outsider - an outsider to people who practically live in shopping
malls, and an outsider to people rushing to attend to families and
the daily pilgrimage in automobiles to their source of consumer
sustenance - their jobs in corporate palaces. I've never owned a
car, and I've become an outsider to the culture of the "consumerist
orgy", the perceived necessity for constant consumption and constant
income and of pacifism. This is life and a lifestyle within an
illusion presented as a multimedia feast to the senses, through all
forms of media, but it seems there is, spiritually, little more than
a void inside.

I often feel most alone when I'm in a crowd - like I'm invisible.
When I am physically alone, I can feel isolated - especially when I
can imagine deeply connecting with another person. At least I can
feel something inside - a reminder that I can still have feelings.
Sometimes, I actually feel strangely connected when I'm "alone". I
like to ride my bicycle at night - to places where no one goes - to
a park, a ravine, or a path by the lake - so that I can hear the
sounds that are usually hidden by city traffic noises during the
day. These create images in my mind of living spaces, of connection
and even of light. ... Regardless of what we experience through
our senses, we need to try to connect all of our living moments with
our passion within.

Ron Erickson
08-10-2005, 05:06 PM
Hi Johnny/Pi (hey, it rhymes),

Johnny: "the status of being politically correct is outside the box of
normal behavior & may be a form of insanity."

Ron: I'm not quite sure where you are going with this. Did you not mean to
say "..being politically correct is INside the box of normal behavior and
anything outside the box is considered a form of insanity"? This brings me
to another question for you. Why did you remove my text "Chances are that
if I met someone in this setting, it would likely be a man who is looking
for a brief "physical encounter". (Well, I suppose everything has its
place...) " from your message? Did this image make you feel uncomfortable?
You speak of a "brave new world", but do you live it? Perhaps because I've
lived a liberated lifestyle for many years, I forget just how coy and
conservative others still are - even in the context of "the New Age". Here
is a clip from a message that I posted in this forum on July 11: "I was
recently riding naked in downtown Toronto with the World Naked Bike Ride to
protest the unnecessary use of fossil fuels.". I am an avid nudist and
naturist and everyone in this forum should seriously consider naturism in
the context of spirituality and/or whatever other context works for you.
Spirituality must involve the whole self. If it's just relegated to some
particular (controlled) region of the mind - it isn't being lived fully.

Johnny: "it may be hepful to realize the (sur)reality of understanding that,
no body & no spirit & no thing is capable of being happy except self."

Ron: I agree, and my own life has shown me this. I was only 10 years old
when both of my parents were killed in a tragic car accident, and it's been
hard to remain spiritually strong (and sane) without a spiritually strong
mentor to provide a grounding. I must be fairly strong because I never
turned to alcohol or drugs. Also, I realize that I am lucky in many ways -
compared to the many people in this world who suffer daily and struggle to
survive.

Pi
08-11-2005, 07:34 AM
Johnny: "the status of being politically correct is outside the box of
normal behavior & may be a form of insanity."

Ron: I'm not quite sure where you are going with this. Did you not
mean to say "..being politically correct is INside the box of normal
behavior and anything outside the box is considered a form of
insanity"? This brings me to another question for you. Why did you
remove my text "Chances are that if I met someone in this setting, it
would likely be a man who is looking for a brief "physical encounter".
(Well, I suppose everything has its place...) " from your message?
Did this image make you feel uncomfortable? You speak of a "brave new
world", but do you live it? Perhaps because I've
lived a liberated lifestyle for many years, I forget just how coy and
conservative others still are - even in the context of "the New Age".
Here is a clip from a message that I posted in this forum on July 11:
"I was recently riding naked in downtown Toronto with the World Naked
Bike Ride to protest the unnecessary use of fossil fuels.". I am an
avid nudist and naturist and everyone in this forum should seriously
consider naturism in the context of spirituality and/or whatever other
context works for you.
Spirituality must involve the whole self. If it's just relegated to
some particular (controlled) region of the mind - it isn't being lived
fully.

Ron,
Thanks for calling my attention to lack of clarity in the above text.
No, i did not mean to say, "..being politically correct is INside the
box of normal behavior and anything outside the box is considered a
form of insanity" but i neglected to add a proviso like, "the way i
see things sometimes,..." or "from my perspective sometimes,"

That's the personal effect a paradigm shift has, in terms of what is &
is not important (aka 'values'). To clarify further, i'd like to note
that such a transition is not particularly desirable, nor is it
unwanted. It just is. It is something i am aware of at times. And i
see it as a way i use to assure self i am not insane. What i seek is a
mental ability to balance & accept both "pc behavior" & "not being pc
behavior" as normal behavior. i want to obliterate the lines that i
randomly use to classify behavior into subsets of "pc" & "not pc".

Yes, i felt uncomfortable about leaving your statement re a physical
encounter in what i cut & pasted. Parenthetically, you give the basis
for this: "(Well, I suppose everything has its place...) " That phrase
was off-topic, merely a personal digression.

No, i do not appreciate your coy leap of reason, leading you to imply
somehow that i may be conservative, anti-nudist, living other than a
liberated life style. i catch your drift: i even may be opposed to
nudism & naturism. Tsk, tsk,... in lieu of protesting a reference to
phantom behavior, i shall close.

VIVA LA NUDISTA, con paz y amor. johnny