grantcleveland
08-03-2005, 09:50 PM
Hi all,
It's been a while. How you doing? I hope it doesn't sound too corny
but I've missed the conversations. I just had an unexpected dark
night of the soul to deal with and now I'm back on track. Faith in
the All is an extremely resilient perception to have.
I know that co-dependence has been a topic of late. Wouldn't the
perspective of holding onto the suffering fall into the co-dependent
paradigm? Isn't this the kind of thought process that can get one
stuck in the 3D experience for many life times? Wouldn't we be better
served to drop the cyclical behaviors that repeatedly injure us and
no longer serve us? I think of he old adage of being sick and the
natural process of healing as soon as possible. Acceptance (rather
than fear) of separation in this lifetime could be called a healing
process in itself but why feed the illusion of separation if we know
that it is not an ultimate reality? Shouldn't we focus on
understanding what unity represents, how we best serve it and how we
can accept that ideal rather than keep it at bay. Isn't our goal here
as 3D beings to break through the perceived need of the veil? To
learn our lesson and move on?
Even Ra has stated that 4D is achievable in this lifetime. It was my
understanding, that in order to do this, need for separation must be
left behind.
-peace
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=MOhp2b1zgOqEEx3Xm7EDR1MjAuZ6O5LD9bw2rM qcvxh7MkUnV0Evohe3Sqf7UvIXLPpA5iYeF4ljutqU), "raistlinflux" <raistlinflux@y...>
wrote:
> I don't understand why people are so affraid of the ilusory
> separation. Isn't it that same separation that which faces us with
> the
> catalyst for growth. Separation here has a purpose. Yes all is one,
> yet each of us, here and now, are separate. Instead of wishing to
> return back to the unity of things so fast, which in the end
everyone
> returns to, why not spend some more time in the illusion. Learn
some
> more lessons, make more choices.
>
> I just happen to think that a lot of people who believe in the all
is
> one theory have a tendency to do so because they have had either
> enough of life's hardships or are affraid of those to come, and
they
> want to just get there faster. Some, I'm sure, have an inner grinn
> knowing that unity is near and there's no more work to do. But
unity
> and knowledge is not of this dimension, I think.
>
> So instead of trying to make a desperate dash for the next level,
now
> that we are starting to understand what separation is and its
> purpose, why not embrace it and learn more lessons from it, rather
> then running home to mommy?
>
> And why this urgency all the time, to advance, to get there first,
I
> mean in an infinity of oneness, why is there an urgency? How can
> there
> be one? How can you get there first if time doesn't exist? I guess
> it's all driven by a desire to not suffer, to finally understand,
and
> finally realize the happiness and love that is us, yet still...
there
> is something amiss to me. Guess there always will be in this
world...
>
> hope I stirred some nerves in this one,
> i didn't choose raistlin-flux for nothing!
>
> love is all
It's been a while. How you doing? I hope it doesn't sound too corny
but I've missed the conversations. I just had an unexpected dark
night of the soul to deal with and now I'm back on track. Faith in
the All is an extremely resilient perception to have.
I know that co-dependence has been a topic of late. Wouldn't the
perspective of holding onto the suffering fall into the co-dependent
paradigm? Isn't this the kind of thought process that can get one
stuck in the 3D experience for many life times? Wouldn't we be better
served to drop the cyclical behaviors that repeatedly injure us and
no longer serve us? I think of he old adage of being sick and the
natural process of healing as soon as possible. Acceptance (rather
than fear) of separation in this lifetime could be called a healing
process in itself but why feed the illusion of separation if we know
that it is not an ultimate reality? Shouldn't we focus on
understanding what unity represents, how we best serve it and how we
can accept that ideal rather than keep it at bay. Isn't our goal here
as 3D beings to break through the perceived need of the veil? To
learn our lesson and move on?
Even Ra has stated that 4D is achievable in this lifetime. It was my
understanding, that in order to do this, need for separation must be
left behind.
-peace
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=MOhp2b1zgOqEEx3Xm7EDR1MjAuZ6O5LD9bw2rM qcvxh7MkUnV0Evohe3Sqf7UvIXLPpA5iYeF4ljutqU), "raistlinflux" <raistlinflux@y...>
wrote:
> I don't understand why people are so affraid of the ilusory
> separation. Isn't it that same separation that which faces us with
> the
> catalyst for growth. Separation here has a purpose. Yes all is one,
> yet each of us, here and now, are separate. Instead of wishing to
> return back to the unity of things so fast, which in the end
everyone
> returns to, why not spend some more time in the illusion. Learn
some
> more lessons, make more choices.
>
> I just happen to think that a lot of people who believe in the all
is
> one theory have a tendency to do so because they have had either
> enough of life's hardships or are affraid of those to come, and
they
> want to just get there faster. Some, I'm sure, have an inner grinn
> knowing that unity is near and there's no more work to do. But
unity
> and knowledge is not of this dimension, I think.
>
> So instead of trying to make a desperate dash for the next level,
now
> that we are starting to understand what separation is and its
> purpose, why not embrace it and learn more lessons from it, rather
> then running home to mommy?
>
> And why this urgency all the time, to advance, to get there first,
I
> mean in an infinity of oneness, why is there an urgency? How can
> there
> be one? How can you get there first if time doesn't exist? I guess
> it's all driven by a desire to not suffer, to finally understand,
and
> finally realize the happiness and love that is us, yet still...
there
> is something amiss to me. Guess there always will be in this
world...
>
> hope I stirred some nerves in this one,
> i didn't choose raistlin-flux for nothing!
>
> love is all