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Chris
07-30-2005, 05:25 AM
Hi group,

I saw this last night...The planet is about 1 1/2 times the size of
Pluto. Wow! Chris

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/

Missy
08-01-2005, 12:58 AM
Hello, :)

I have a question about the tenth planet, because this is the third time I've
heard they've found a tenth planet, and maybe I just need to read up a lot.

Originally, in my heart, Charon will always be the tenth planet. When I was
younger, they used to call her Planet X. I think she might have been categorized
as one of Pluto's moons instead, maybe. But in my mind, she already IS the tenth
planet.

Also, about a year ago, they said they found another tenth planet, and that was
''Sedna''. Perhaps they just decided that the orbit for Sedna tends to come our
way, but not too much, so they downgraded that ''planet'' finding as well?
Anybody remember this one? ~lol~

So I was pretty excited that some new folks may have found the tenth planet
again. I feel a little lost about this. What do you think? :)

((Go Charon!!)

Sincerely yours,

~ missy ~


Chris <chris.hamilton2@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=ev5dMzmsy5r8sjEdrJ3PQA6BY9kewH30Kgkwhc eEtqyyWY9t8Atv-uNW0dob_z0TA2F5Ql3IQmYEoR1U1FLduD7M2A-C)> wrote:
Hi group,

I saw this last night...The planet is about 1 1/2 times the size of
Pluto. Wow! Chris

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/

mark stringfellow
08-01-2005, 06:05 PM
> Originally, in my heart, Charon will always be the
> tenth planet. When I was younger, they used to call
> her Planet X. I think she might have been
> categorized as one of Pluto's moons instead, maybe.
> But in my mind, she already IS the tenth planet.
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> Hi Missy,

You can't classify Charon as a planet. It's part of
Pluto's system. However, Charon doesn't orbit around
Pluto like our moon does the earth. Both Pluto and
Charon orbit around a common center like two balls on
opposite ends of a string tacked down in the center.
Charon is slightly smaller than Pluto, which keeps it
from obtaining planet status. Many astronomers even
have trouble classifying Pluto as a planet. But it
won't change because of Pluto's common acceptance for
so long as being a planet in the collective.

I'd like to ask David about what this means to the
solar structure model as it relates to The Shift of
Ages material and the scientific model.

Mark
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Chris Hamilton
08-01-2005, 07:08 PM
From: "Missy" <rimmerkins@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=4QooGu0B9mwaW1AOCBxOrOym6jltECyXHVg4dV Se02ZiHPwpa-tzKOmIT0ybpaLMR3-v-0HXsSuH1jPV-Fg)>
> Originally, in my heart, Charon will always be the tenth planet. > Also,
> about a year ago, they said they found another tenth planet, and that was
> ''Sedna''. Perhaps they just decided that the orbit for Sedna tends to
> come our way, but not too much, so they downgraded that ''planet'' finding
> as well? Anybody remember this one? ~lol~
> Sincerely yours, ~ missy ~

HI Missy,
I love the planets and new discoveries about new possible planets and I have
followed the last new discoveries. As the telescopes get better, so do our
visions expand of other worlds.

My interpretation of these bodies is influenced by the Law of One books,
mostly with the explanation that there was a planet between Mars and Jupiter
that exploded because the people blew themselves up:). My belief of this
advances to the visual of this planet exploding and sending pieces all over
our solar system. One piece, Pluto/Charon, was probably the main mass split
in two. The rest remains as bits and pieces (asteroids) left between Mars
and Jupiter. So, yes, on that theory, I would say Pluto/Charon is a planet
:). Or a portion thereof.

As for Sedna, and the other new one discovered, Quaoar, and now the new
un-named distant object...they are all different. Quaoar is in the Kuiper
Belt (also called Trans-Neptunian Objects, because they cross over Neptunes
orbit at one time or another). It is only 800 miles across and much smaller
than Pluto, so that killed it's planet application:). But, its orbit is
almost entirely elliptical, and it only has an 8 deg declination-Pluto has
like a 30 deg declination, all out of whack.

Sedna is in the Oort Cloud, much more distant than even Pluto. It has like a
10,500 year orbit. It's small like Quaoar, but I find it amazing that
telescopes even found that tiny thing! Because it's smaller than Pluto, I
don't think scientists will ever call it a planet. it's more like a cold
comet waiting to get captured by some planet's gravitational force.

Now, UB313 (the newest one:), is really far out there also, but Mr. Brown
thinks it is LARGER than Pluto by preliminary examination, so, this has hit
the news media. Me/ I am waiting to see what Mr. Brown finds next :) Chris

Missy
08-04-2005, 12:32 AM
Hello!

Thanks Mark and Chris for chatting with me about the Tenth planets! It's so fun
and exciting to learn about new things dealing with astronomy, science, and
physics. You guys really gave me a lot of good clarity on the main points of
each planetoid object found, and I will make notes and look some more
information up, too. Any other information you can share would always be
appreciated. Thank you so much.

Chris, I have read before that there may have been a planet between Mars and
Jupiter, and I didn't know that it was mentioned in the Law of One series!! I am
still reading a bit slowly through the Law of One and whereas I am very new to
the idea of channelin' folks from far away, (~~ with my sincerest apologies to
Qu'o, because I always love what he has to say!)((Qu'o's brought a lot of
comfort to my soul.)) I'm a *BIG* fan. :)

~ I am still learning. Most of my questions about the Law of One series would
probably sound kinda' primative; there are certain conceptual problems I am
having with the books, and with how some concepts relate to each other.
(I was wondering if I might be able to post those questions here? --Even though
my ignorance might shine like nothing you've seen!

However, there is no doubt in my mind that I am a Wanderer. Nothing else I've
ever come across in my life has ever made more sense. The questionnaire that
determines if you are a Wanderer, I could have written myself, because every
single question I can answer affirmatively. DW's writings and all of the
articles to read over at L/L Research's website is great!! It's given me a
wonderful new perspective on life and also been very comforting and encouraging.

Someday I hope to make a pilgrimage to the Research institute/facility. Just to
say hi and let them know I'm here for them, should they need anything.

Thanks again for the information you guys! :) I'll keep reading the email posts,
as always. If I can post some basic questions regarding the Law of One books,
that'll be great!

Sincerely yours,

~ missy ~

From: mark stringfellow
Subject: Re: A Tenth Planet Found

You can't classify Charon as a planet. It's part of
Pluto's system. However, Charon doesn't orbit around
Pluto like our moon does the earth. Both Pluto and
Charon orbit around a common center like two balls on
opposite ends of a string tacked down in the center.
Mark

From: "Chris Hamilton"
HI Missy,
I love the planets and new discoveries about new possible planets and I have
followed the last new discoveries. As the telescopes get better, so do our
visions expand of other worlds.

My interpretation of these bodies is influenced by the Law of One books, mostly
with the explanation that there was a planet between Mars and Jupiter that
exploded because the people blew themselves up:). My belief of this advances to
the visual of this planet exploding and sending pieces all over our solar
system.

Jan Wicherink
08-04-2005, 03:57 PM
I'm just reading Sitchen's book `The 12th planet', page 239 when
synchronicity wants it that you are discussing the law of One series
mentioning a 10th planet between Mars and Jupiter which was destroyed
by their inhabitants.

Well according to Zecharia Sitchen, the Sumerians clay tablets are
clear about the existence of a 12th planet called Nibiru (they
counted the Sun and moon as planets) who's orbit passes between Mars
and Jupiter. According to Sitchen the planet Marduk (Nibiru) collided
with the planet Tiamat. After this collision, Tiamat split in two,
whereas one part became planet Earth and the rest of Tiamat was
shattered to form the Asteroid Belt.

Now what really intrigues me is the fact that the Sumerians depicted
this planet Nibiru as a winged globe, which is exactly the same
symbol used by the Egyptians to symbolize Ra. From the law of One
series we know that Ra descended to Earth during the time of the
Egyptian dynasties to intervene with mankind and bestow upon man `the
law of One'. However, the teachings of the `law of One' were
misunderstood by the Egyptians and finally the Egyptians ended up
worshipping Ra instead. A pharaoh that could have qualified as an
emissary of Ra and could have decreed the `law of One' was Akhenaten,
identified by many as the biblical figure Moses (Sigmund Freud for
one).

Could there be a relation between the Annunaki and Ra given the fact
that the same symbol `the winged globe' is being used to depict
them? At least it's very interesting to notice that the law of One
agrees with Sitchen's claims of a 10th planet (12 if we count in the
Sun and the moon) which has an orbit between Mars and Jupiter?

Love,
Jan

PS: The newly discover 10th planet does not qualify for Sitchen's
12th planet since it's orbit doesn't match.


> Chris, I have read before that there may have been a planet between
Mars and Jupiter, and I didn't know that it was mentioned in the Law
of One series!! I am still reading a bit slowly through the Law of
One and whereas I am very new to the idea of channelin' folks from
far away, (~~ with my sincerest apologies to Qu'o, because I always
love what he has to say!)((Qu'o's brought a lot of comfort to my
soul.)) I'm a *BIG* fan. :)

Chris Hamilton
08-04-2005, 06:59 PM
From: "Jan Wicherink" <jan.wicherink@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=hLhij-FYp1emXrQRGLghkkzVR8U5pf7c8MLsCNxvFvuLN8G3VZQDfddB VD7bhwsac0MzEvvMclj4iEMqQ0Y)>


> I'm just reading Sitchen's book `The 12th planet', page 239 when
> synchronicity wants it that you are discussing the law of One series
> mentioning a 10th planet between Mars and Jupiter which was destroyed by
> their habitants.

Hi Jan,
Sitchin correlates many of the Law of One solar system models. I loved that
book, and read it too:).
>
Jan: According to Sitchen the planet Marduk (Nibiru) collided with the
planet Tiamat. After this collision, Tiamat split in two, whereas one part
became planet Earth and the rest of Tiamat was shattered to form the
Asteroid Belt.

Chris: Ra calls 'Sitchin's 'Marduk' "Maldek". However, my opinion here
differs from Sitchin because I am looking at the Law of One's explanation,
which is that the Maldekians simply blew themselves up. Sitchin says another
rogue 'something' (planet, star, comet, asteroid, whatever :) came into the
path of Tiamet, knocked it out of orbit where it was in what we know of as
the asteroid belt and broke it up and then conveniently placed Tiamet (now
right in Earth's nice elliptical orbit:) as Earth and our moon. I simply
can't picture such a cataclysmic occurence creating such a perfect
elliptical orbit as Earth has. No, Earth has been here since the beginning,
I think. That's why I believe Pluto/Charon is the big piece of
Maldek/Tiamet. Other peieces also blew outward and probably devastated
Mars...but that is just my theory :)
>
>Jan: Now what really intrigues me is the fact that the Sumerians depicted
>this planet Nibiru as a winged globe, which is exactly the same symbol
>used by the Egyptians to symbolize Ra. From the law of One series we know
>that Ra descended to Earth during the time of the
> Egyptian dynasties to intervene with mankind and bestow upon man `the law
> of One'. However, the teachings of the `law of One' were misunderstood by
> the Egyptians and finally the Egyptians ended up worshipping Ra instead.

Chris: Yes, you are well-versed :). Very well said.

Jan: A pharaoh that could have qualified as an emissary of Ra and could
have decreed the `law of One' was Akhenaten, identified by many as the
biblical figure Moses (Sigmund Freud for one).

Chris: That is interesting, because I spent a period of time studying
Ahkenaten, also known as Iknaten. His original name was Amenhotep (I forget
his #, I think IV:). He brought a monastic (one god) religion to Egypt but
it didn't stick. Hey People are people:) They have their needs, and one god
just got in their ego interests, I guess:) Just an opinion, mind you. I'm
not familiar with his possibility, however, as him being Moses, but if we
look at history and how humans tend to make myths out of real people, that
is a possibility, yes.

Jan: Could there be a relation between the Annunaki and Ra given the fact
that the same symbol `the winged globe' is being used to depict them? At
least it's very interesting to notice that the law of One agrees with
Sitchen's claims of a 10th planet (12 if we count in the
> Sun and the moon) which has an orbit between Mars and Jupiter?

Chris: I definately believe the Sumerians had contact with Ra, yes. The
accounts involving 10,000 years BCE with archaeological artifacts, which
more and more are being discovered, supplies a great back-up. Sitchin, being
an archaeologist (with a BIG imagination:) has wonderful access to the
possibilities presented (although Nibiru is NOT one of them in my opinion).
Maybe soon we will find a CD or something buried under Sphinx's paw that
blows our minds:). INSERT DISC and FIND THE PAST :). Shades of Dune, laugh.

Jan Wicherink
08-05-2005, 02:14 PM
Christ wrote:
I simply can't picture such a cataclysmic occurence creating such a
perfect elliptical orbit as Earth has. No, Earth has been here since
the beginning,I think. That's why I believe Pluto/Charon is the big
piece of Maldek/Tiamet.

Hi Chris,

I do agree that Zecharia Sitchen has his a kind liberate
interpretation of what may have happened.

The re-arrangement of the orbits of the planets and their satellites
due to the crossing of the `Planet of Crossing' (Nibiru) could be a
script from `Star Wars'.

Supposedly, Tiamat was split in two, one part became Earth in an orbit
closer to the Sun, the other part was shattered to become the Asteroid
Belt. On a second round of Nibiru, the Kingu (the moon) a former
planet with it's own orbit, was forced to become a satellite of the
Earth and a satellite of Saturn was kicked into outer orbit to become
Pluto. In addition Tiamats satellites were kicked in reverse orbit to
become the comets.

The reason why Amenhotep IV or Akhenaten of the 18th Dynasty life's
story bears a strong resemblance to the biblical story of Moses is
that Akhenaten drastically changed the Egyptian religious system from
polytheism to monotheism. No longer was it allowed to worship the
whole pantheon of Egyptians deities but only one of them the Aten, the
sun disk. Since his kingdom was overthrown, Akhenaten had to flee from
Egypt. The resemblance with the biblical story of Moses who got the
Ten Commandments from the hand of God and was instructed to tell his
people to only obey one God is obvious. I personally have come to
believe that Akhenaten may have been one of the emissaries of Ra who
in the time of Egypt intervened with the spiritual destiny of this
planet. Although Akhenaten's reign was short lived (18 years) his
influence was tremendous, since it was the first time in recorded
history of mankind that a One God or monotheistic religion was introduced.

Hopefully we find a DVD in stead of a CD in the Hall of Records,
otherwise I would be really disappointed about our ancestors achievements!

With love,
Jan