Service

[lynn51]

thanks Jeremy and David for your comments and definitions. They bring
up more questions . What about people who are inbetween the two
definitions and are in 6 to 50% in service to others- what happens to
them?
What about acts of service to others that are at the same time
serving
oneself? What about people who are healers and spiritual teachers ( I
know two like this) who are so self- sacrificing that they ignore
their own health, which deteriorates, and end up not being able to
function well or to help others.It seems people have to discover how
to pace themselves so that this wont happen. At the moment I have far
more questions than answers and will have to pose these to spirit to
try and get some clarification. Maybe y'all will have resolved some
of
these.
The question of service and giving brought to mind a woman I met on a
plane who was a photographer for national geographic magazine. She
had
been to India, and said how many, many beggars there were , each
holding their hand out to her.I asked her how she dealt with it. She
said she didn't give money to anyone, but never left anyone
empty-handed. I pictured her holding each of their hands, and filling
them up with love.

It is beginning to seem like it is not adding up all the physical
things that one does that are of the utmost in importance but the
intent and feelings behind ones actions.

[Jeremy Weiland]

Hi Lesta! I'll try to answer your questions to my best understanding of
the Law of One information. All this stuff is in the Law of One books,
which is a great source for this information if you're interested in
exploring these concepts further. Also, David has a great Ra study guide on
his website. If anyone is planning on reading tLoO books, I highly
reccommend digesting the concepts in the study guide first, as Ra has a very
particular "vocabulary" that can throw you for a loop if you're not prepared
for it :-)

http://ascension2000.com/Ra-studyguide.htm

> What about people who are in between the two
> definitions and are in 6 to 50% in service to others- what happens to
> them?

Well, the way that Ra explains it, there are different experiential
goals that an entity is supposed to achieve in each dimension they progress
through (1->8). In 3D, our goal here is simply to choose which path our
future spiritual evolution will take. We have two options: service to
others, or service to self. We can only proceed to the next step (4D) once
we have decided which path to take. So people who have not chosen yet
(which means they are not 51% sts or 95% sto) cannot be said to have
fulfilled the purpose of their 3D mission, and must return to 3D until they
polarize sufficiently, or choose (same thing). Those who have not polarized
one way or another sufficiently by the end of the cycle will have / choose
to repeat the cycle until they have decided which path they will take /
which way they will polarize. People who have not polarized sufficiently
are not *ready* for the next step to 4D, and it's not so much that they will
be "held back" from proceeding like they want, but rather that they (or
rather their higher selves) will choose not to proceed until they are fully
ready for 4D lessons.

> What about acts of service to others that are at the same time
> serving
> oneself?

Well, like I posted earlier, Ra says that sts IS sto, and sto IS sts.
It's just the emphasis you put on it - whether you are acting in accordance
with reality (which is unity) or in accordance with unreality (which is
separation). So sto is ALWAYS self service, in a way. If I understand you
correctly, however, I think maybe you are referring to people who seem to be
serving others but are really hurting others for percieved self benefit. I
think it has less to do with the actual action you take and more to do with
the path you have chosen, although your actions almost always show your
path.

My take on it is that if you are sto you are acting in service of self
inasmuch as you are furthering your evolution on the path you have chosen.
If you're sts you're acting in service to self as well by furthering your
evolution on *that* path. You're always serving others and you're always
serving self - the question is whether you put the emphasis on unity or
separation. Only you can determine where you have decided the emphasis
should lie.

> What about people who are healers and spiritual teachers ( I
> know two like this) who are so self- sacrificing that they ignore
> their own health, which deteriorates, and end up not being able to
> function well or to help others.It seems people have to discover how
> to pace themselves so that this wont happen.

Yeah. Finding your pace allows you to serve more efficiently than if
you simply burn yourself out
all the time (I really reccommend reading the Ra material, as Ra talks about
precisely this topic in the context of the channel, Carla). If you burn
yourself out, you can't serve as much as you can if you pace yourself, so if
your goal is maximum service, the answer is really obvious.

> At the moment I have far
> more questions than answers and will have to pose these to spirit to
> try and get some clarification. Maybe y'all will have resolved some
> of these.

The best resolution to your questions lies in the Ra material. Studying
the LoO books is the best way to get answers to these questions, as the
answers are all explicitly covered in there. Sorry to be coming back to my
book recommendation all the time, and I certainly don't have a problem
answering your questions :-) , but it sounds like you're very curious about
this stuff and I want you to know where you can find your answers.

> The question of service and giving brought to mind a woman I met on a
> plane who was a photographer for national geographic magazine. She
> had
> been to India, and said how many, many beggars there were , each
> holding their hand out to her.I asked her how she dealt with it. She
> said she didn't give money to anyone, but never left anyone
> empty-handed. I pictured her holding each of their hands, and filling
> them up with love.

Now we're starting to get to the idea of physical vs. vibrational
service that I posted about. Is there an obligation to give these people
what they ask for (money)? My inclination now is that there is no
obligation. But obviously there is nothing to lose and everything to be
gained by performing vibrational service, or loving the people. And, of
course, if you have money to spare and feel moved to give to people, then of
course you should trust your intuition. Unfortunately, my intuition is not
as developed as I wish it were and I find myself making decisions based more
on principle than on the intuition of the moment.

> It is beginning to seem like it is not adding up all the physical
> things that one does that are of the utmost in importance but the
> intent and feelings behind ones actions.

It's beginning to seem that way, I believe, because that's the way it
is. We are here to work on ourselves, period. How you do this (sts/sto)
*determines* the actions you will take - but the actions in and of
themselves are not the salvation, but rather the attitude is.

Hope this helps, and feel free to keep conversation flowing!!!

Later,

Jeremy

[Tiffani Boswell]

i have a question as well....

so thse people that are less than 51% .... well there is a place being
perpared for them or something as i understand it right...where everything
just keeps going on?

Now all the literature (Bible, new age, scriptures) that hint that one
person will be there and then the other will be taken away...

so there is a marriage of a two people one is less than 51% and one is
more....so theoretically the less than 51% goes on to the 3D place and the
more than 51% goes to 4D....

if the less than 51% does not remember the transition to the new 3D
place....does this person remember that his/her mate is missing!

I have read contradicting material on this...some stating that this will be
the catalyst that will wake the rest up to the fact of what is really going
on when a ton of people ascend....

but i have also heard that the 3D people will go on and not remember the
ascension....???

i welcome anyone's comments
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Sent: June 28, 2001 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [asc2k] re. service


> Hi Lesta! I'll try to answer your questions to my best understanding
of
> the Law of One information. All this stuff is in the Law of One books,
> which is a great source for this information if you're interested in
> exploring these concepts further. Also, David has a great Ra study guide
on
> his website. If anyone is planning on reading tLoO books, I highly
> reccommend digesting the concepts in the study guide first, as Ra has a
very
> particular "vocabulary" that can throw you for a loop if you're not
prepared
> for it :-)
>
> http://ascension2000.com/Ra-studyguide.htm
>
> > What about people who are in between the two
> > definitions and are in 6 to 50% in service to others- what happens to
> > them?
>
> Well, the way that Ra explains it, there are different experiential
> goals that an entity is supposed to achieve in each dimension they
progress
> through (1->8). In 3D, our goal here is simply to choose which path our
> future spiritual evolution will take. We have two options: service to
> others, or service to self. We can only proceed to the next step (4D)
once
> we have decided which path to take. So people who have not chosen yet
> (which means they are not 51% sts or 95% sto) cannot be said to have
> fulfilled the purpose of their 3D mission, and must return to 3D until
they
> polarize sufficiently, or choose (same thing). Those who have not
polarized
> one way or another sufficiently by the end of the cycle will have / choose
> to repeat the cycle until they have decided which path they will take /
> which way they will polarize. People who have not polarized sufficiently
> are not *ready* for the next step to 4D, and it's not so much that they
will
> be "held back" from proceeding like they want, but rather that they (or
> rather their higher selves) will choose not to proceed until they are
fully
> ready for 4D lessons.
>
> > What about acts of service to others that are at the same time
> > serving
> > oneself?
>
> Well, like I posted earlier, Ra says that sts IS sto, and sto IS sts.
> It's just the emphasis you put on it - whether you are acting in
accordance
> with reality (which is unity) or in accordance with unreality (which is
> separation). So sto is ALWAYS self service, in a way. If I understand
you
> correctly, however, I think maybe you are referring to people who seem to
be
> serving others but are really hurting others for percieved self benefit.
I
> think it has less to do with the actual action you take and more to do
with
> the path you have chosen, although your actions almost always show your
> path.
>
> My take on it is that if you are sto you are acting in service of self
> inasmuch as you are furthering your evolution on the path you have chosen.
> If you're sts you're acting in service to self as well by furthering your
> evolution on *that* path. You're always serving others and you're always
> serving self - the question is whether you put the emphasis on unity or
> separation. Only you can determine where you have decided the emphasis
> should lie.
>
> > What about people who are healers and spiritual teachers ( I
> > know two like this) who are so self- sacrificing that they ignore
> > their own health, which deteriorates, and end up not being able to
> > function well or to help others.It seems people have to discover how
> > to pace themselves so that this wont happen.
>
> Yeah. Finding your pace allows you to serve more efficiently than if
> you simply burn yourself out
> all the time (I really reccommend reading the Ra material, as Ra talks
about
> precisely this topic in the context of the channel, Carla). If you burn
> yourself out, you can't serve as much as you can if you pace yourself, so
if
> your goal is maximum service, the answer is really obvious.
>
> > At the moment I have far
> > more questions than answers and will have to pose these to spirit to
> > try and get some clarification. Maybe y'all will have resolved some
> > of these.
>
> The best resolution to your questions lies in the Ra material.
Studying
> the LoO books is the best way to get answers to these questions, as the
> answers are all explicitly covered in there. Sorry to be coming back to
my
> book recommendation all the time, and I certainly don't have a problem
> answering your questions :-) , but it sounds like you're very curious
about
> this stuff and I want you to know where you can find your answers.
>
> > The question of service and giving brought to mind a woman I met on a
> > plane who was a photographer for national geographic magazine. She
> > had
> > been to India, and said how many, many beggars there were , each
> > holding their hand out to her.I asked her how she dealt with it. She
> > said she didn't give money to anyone, but never left anyone
> > empty-handed. I pictured her holding each of their hands, and filling
> > them up with love.
>
> Now we're starting to get to the idea of physical vs. vibrational
> service that I posted about. Is there an obligation to give these people
> what they ask for (money)? My inclination now is that there is no
> obligation. But obviously there is nothing to lose and everything to be
> gained by performing vibrational service, or loving the people. And, of
> course, if you have money to spare and feel moved to give to people, then
of
> course you should trust your intuition. Unfortunately, my intuition is
not
> as developed as I wish it were and I find myself making decisions based
more
> on principle than on the intuition of the moment.
>
> > It is beginning to seem like it is not adding up all the physical
> > things that one does that are of the utmost in importance but the
> > intent and feelings behind ones actions.
>
> It's beginning to seem that way, I believe, because that's the way it
> is. We are here to work on ourselves, period. How you do this (sts/sto)
> *determines* the actions you will take - but the actions in and of
> themselves are not the salvation, but rather the attitude is.
>
> Hope this helps, and feel free to keep conversation flowing!!!
>
> Later,
>
> Jeremy
>
>
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[Tiffani Boswell]

thanks jeremy it does...


as the new 3D will not....
now as 4D will we remember?

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Sent: June 28, 2001 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [asc2k] re. service


> Like I said before, this is my best shot at answers as I understand the
> material, so with that caveat...
>
> > so thse people that are less than 51% .... well there is a place being
> > perpared for them or something as i understand it right...where
everything
> > just keeps going on?
>
> I don't think everything "keeps going on" as in 21st century earth history
> continues, but rather that another 3d planet is being developed where they
> continue their evolution and polarization, probably in a new culture
similar
> to earth, as our earth culture is somewhat similar to the past cultures of
> Maldek and Mars (man, that does *sound* flakey :-) when they ended.
>
> > Now all the literature (Bible, new age, scriptures) that hint that one
> > person will be there and then the other will be taken away...
> >
> > so there is a marriage of a two people one is less than 51% and one is
> > more....so theoretically the less than 51% goes on to the 3D place and
the
> > more than 51% goes to 4D....
>
> The marriage exists as a way for people to learn and develop, so
> naturally if the conditions are no longer suitable for one person's
> development, he or she will leave to go to the next level. The other
person
> won't want to move on until he or she is properly polarized. So yeah
you're
> correct as I understand it.
>
> > if the less than 51% does not remember the transition to the new 3D
> > place....does this person remember that his/her mate is missing!
>
> Umm... not quite sure... I don't think that it is a smooth continuity
to
> the new 3D planet. I was always of the impression that a new culture
would
> start on the new planet, but who knows - maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, if the
> other person feels the loss of the mate, it would probably be a vague
> underlying feeling and not a direct feeling of loss, since past lives are
> blocked from memory courtesy of the "veil of forgetting".
>
> > I have read contradicting material on this...some stating that this will
> be
> > the catalyst that will wake the rest up to the fact of what is really
> going
> > on when a ton of people ascend....
>
> Well, from what David is saying, there will be more than one ascension
> before the end of 3D earth, so there will be increased opportunities to
> polarize for whatever reason. I'm sure that people ascending would be a
> catalyst to the people left behind to put more emphasis on their spiritual
> development (just got an 11:11!).
>
> > but i have also heard that the 3D people will go on and not remember the
> > ascension....???
>
> I interpret this as the people who do not ascend by the end of the
cycle
> will go to the new 3D planet in a new incarnation - and neccessarily not
> remember their old lives directly. However, David seems to stress that
> there is more than one opportunity in the coming years to ascend, and the
> events that precipitate ascension (like UFOs or earth changes) will also
act
> as catalysts for the further polarization of others.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Later,
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
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[Jeremy Weiland]

Like I said before, this is my best shot at answers as I understand the
material, so with that caveat...

> so thse people that are less than 51% .... well there is a place being
> perpared for them or something as i understand it right...where everything
> just keeps going on?

I don't think everything "keeps going on" as in 21st century earth history
continues, but rather that another 3d planet is being developed where they
continue their evolution and polarization, probably in a new culture similar
to earth, as our earth culture is somewhat similar to the past cultures of
Maldek and Mars (man, that does *sound* flakey :-) when they ended.

> Now all the literature (Bible, new age, scriptures) that hint that one
> person will be there and then the other will be taken away...
>
> so there is a marriage of a two people one is less than 51% and one is
> more....so theoretically the less than 51% goes on to the 3D place and the
> more than 51% goes to 4D....

The marriage exists as a way for people to learn and develop, so
naturally if the conditions are no longer suitable for one person's
development, he or she will leave to go to the next level. The other person
won't want to move on until he or she is properly polarized. So yeah you're
correct as I understand it.

> if the less than 51% does not remember the transition to the new 3D
> place....does this person remember that his/her mate is missing!

Umm... not quite sure... I don't think that it is a smooth continuity to
the new 3D planet. I was always of the impression that a new culture would
start on the new planet, but who knows - maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, if the
other person feels the loss of the mate, it would probably be a vague
underlying feeling and not a direct feeling of loss, since past lives are
blocked from memory courtesy of the "veil of forgetting".

> I have read contradicting material on this...some stating that this will
be
> the catalyst that will wake the rest up to the fact of what is really
going
> on when a ton of people ascend....

Well, from what David is saying, there will be more than one ascension
before the end of 3D earth, so there will be increased opportunities to
polarize for whatever reason. I'm sure that people ascending would be a
catalyst to the people left behind to put more emphasis on their spiritual
development (just got an 11:11!).

> but i have also heard that the 3D people will go on and not remember the
> ascension....???

I interpret this as the people who do not ascend by the end of the cycle
will go to the new 3D planet in a new incarnation - and neccessarily not
remember their old lives directly. However, David seems to stress that
there is more than one opportunity in the coming years to ascend, and the
events that precipitate ascension (like UFOs or earth changes) will also act
as catalysts for the further polarization of others.

Hope this helps!

Later,

Jeremy

[Jeremy Weiland]

I believe that there is no veil of forgetting in 4D, and that we will
have access to all our previous experiences as fully developed 4D entities.
The veil of forgetting only exists so that we make the sts/sto choice based
soley on faith.

From what I understand, our 4D experience will not be immediate access
to 4D abilites, but will be somewhat gradual as we figure out what we are
capable of.

Later,

Jeremy
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Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [asc2k] re. service


> thanks jeremy it does...
>
>
> as the new 3D will not....
> now as 4D will we remember?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Weiland" <jweiland@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=3NUjOYkzpAgPag7pbM3x2UOAyCcHJP9fxbWyF7 W9DWoXJhZw0HhcpfBzFCuvGWcsEdF8Cfyg2SSl4-Y)>
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> Subject: Re: [asc2k] re. service
>
>
> > Like I said before, this is my best shot at answers as I understand the
> > material, so with that caveat...
> >
> > > so thse people that are less than 51% .... well there is a place being
> > > perpared for them or something as i understand it right...where
> everything
> > > just keeps going on?
> >
> > I don't think everything "keeps going on" as in 21st century earth
history
> > continues, but rather that another 3d planet is being developed where
they
> > continue their evolution and polarization, probably in a new culture
> similar
> > to earth, as our earth culture is somewhat similar to the past cultures
of
> > Maldek and Mars (man, that does *sound* flakey :-) when they ended.
> >
> > > Now all the literature (Bible, new age, scriptures) that hint that one
> > > person will be there and then the other will be taken away...
> > >
> > > so there is a marriage of a two people one is less than 51% and one is
> > > more....so theoretically the less than 51% goes on to the 3D place and
> the
> > > more than 51% goes to 4D....
> >
> > The marriage exists as a way for people to learn and develop, so
> > naturally if the conditions are no longer suitable for one person's
> > development, he or she will leave to go to the next level. The other
> person
> > won't want to move on until he or she is properly polarized. So yeah
> you're
> > correct as I understand it.
> >
> > > if the less than 51% does not remember the transition to the new 3D
> > > place....does this person remember that his/her mate is missing!
> >
> > Umm... not quite sure... I don't think that it is a smooth
continuity
> to
> > the new 3D planet. I was always of the impression that a new culture
> would
> > start on the new planet, but who knows - maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, if
the
> > other person feels the loss of the mate, it would probably be a vague
> > underlying feeling and not a direct feeling of loss, since past lives
are
> > blocked from memory courtesy of the "veil of forgetting".
> >
> > > I have read contradicting material on this...some stating that this
will
> > be
> > > the catalyst that will wake the rest up to the fact of what is really
> > going
> > > on when a ton of people ascend....
> >
> > Well, from what David is saying, there will be more than one
ascension
> > before the end of 3D earth, so there will be increased opportunities to
> > polarize for whatever reason. I'm sure that people ascending would be a
> > catalyst to the people left behind to put more emphasis on their
spiritual
> > development (just got an 11:11!).
> >
> > > but i have also heard that the 3D people will go on and not remember
the
> > > ascension....???
> >
> > I interpret this as the people who do not ascend by the end of the
> cycle
> > will go to the new 3D planet in a new incarnation - and neccessarily not
> > remember their old lives directly. However, David seems to stress that
> > there is more than one opportunity in the coming years to ascend, and
the
> > events that precipitate ascension (like UFOs or earth changes) will also
> act
> > as catalysts for the further polarization of others.
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> >
> > Later,
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> >
> >
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[glen main]

I have heard there will be a false rapture/ascention.
anyone else heard this?

Jeremy Weiland wrote:

> > > > I have read contradicting material on this...some stating that this
> will
> > > be
> > > > the catalyst that will wake the rest up to the fact of what is really
> > > going
> > > > on when a ton of people ascend....
> > >
> > > Well, from what David is saying, there will be more than one
> ascension
> > > before the end of 3D earth, so there will be increased opportunities to
> > > polarize for whatever reason. I'm sure that people ascending would be a
> > > catalyst to the people left behind to put more emphasis on their
> spiritual
> > > development (just got an 11:11!).
> > >

[Jeremy Weiland]

Nope.
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Date: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [asc2k] re. service


>I have heard there will be a false rapture/ascention.
>anyone else heard this?
>
>Jeremy Weiland wrote:
>
>> > > > I have read contradicting material on this...some stating that this
>> will
>> > > be
>> > > > the catalyst that will wake the rest up to the fact of what is
really
>> > > going
>> > > > on when a ton of people ascend....
>> > >
>> > > Well, from what David is saying, there will be more than one
>> ascension
>> > > before the end of 3D earth, so there will be increased opportunities
to
>> > > polarize for whatever reason. I'm sure that people ascending would
be a
>> > > catalyst to the people left behind to put more emphasis on their
>> spiritual
>> > > development (just got an 11:11!).
>> > >
>
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[lynn51]

thanks so much Jeremy. I will look up Ra on the ascenscion website.
You incited me to think about all this further than I ever had. I'd
always taken the Christian version of physically giving as the major
way of giving.There was always that guilt over never doing enough. Now
reading what you, David and Tiffani are saying , it starts to
shift.Actually, I feel some of the best gifts I have given people is
through teaching art and the encouragement to them in getting them to
realize that whether they have artistic talent or not , it does not
matter. That the the important thing is their interest and
determination, and that the artistic process is food for their spirit
. We are given gifts in our lives and when we develop these and share
them, making others part of them,that these are the unique gifts we
can offer people.
Not everyone will be called upon to work in a soup kitchen, but I
admire them if they do. I also know a wealthy philanthropist who does
not treat himself or his family with kindness, and I believe he uses
the charity to excuse that.
I also had started smiling at lots of people and found that it really
lifts spirits, and has that ripple effect.
Best wishes, Lesta

[Tiffani Boswell]

GOOD FOR YOU LESTA!!!
blessings!
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Subject: [asc2k] re. service


> thanks so much Jeremy. I will look up Ra on the ascenscion website.
> You incited me to think about all this further than I ever had. I'd
> always taken the Christian version of physically giving as the major
> way of giving.There was always that guilt over never doing enough. Now
> reading what you, David and Tiffani are saying , it starts to
> shift.Actually, I feel some of the best gifts I have given people is
> through teaching art and the encouragement to them in getting them to
> realize that whether they have artistic talent or not , it does not
> matter. That the the important thing is their interest and
> determination, and that the artistic process is food for their spirit
> . We are given gifts in our lives and when we develop these and share
> them, making others part of them,that these are the unique gifts we
> can offer people.
> Not everyone will be called upon to work in a soup kitchen, but I
> admire them if they do. I also know a wealthy philanthropist who does
> not treat himself or his family with kindness, and I believe he uses
> the charity to excuse that.
> I also had started smiling at lots of people and found that it really
> lifts spirits, and has that ripple effect.
> Best wishes, Lesta
>
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[David Wilcock]

(Dear oldtime group members, sorry about this continuing further. I need to
get back to work and we need to stabilize the list here...)

"Do not offer service where none is requested." - Ra

Dear tfel / Fellowship adherents, who shall remain nameless:

Let me say this as lovingly as I can. I have no personal difficulties with
you guys; if we sat down in a room together I'm sure we'd be able to have
some sort of common consensus, or at least play a decent game of pin the
tail on the donkey. Here's the deal:

You made your point. I've repeatedly made mine. We disagree. This is not the
Fellowship group; please return your discussion to where it belongs. I have
no personal problems with you but if this is where the discussions get
lively, channel that energy back into your own room! The "Call" has been
rejected.

The people who joined this group wanted to learn about and discuss the asc2k
material. That's why they're here. I've already started getting votes for a
closed list where everyone would need to re-apply and supply a bio,
statement of intent, et cetera. We're all getting pretty tired of this, most
voting through silence and private emails to me. I don't have the time or
the energy to keep playing along.

Those from this group who want to join you through their own free will are
more than welcome to. (But they will have to pay for it, won't they? Not to
attack you; a serious question.) I don't even have the time to read all of
your posts anymore.

See you next time, and thanks for the catalyst. :)

Peace be with you -

- David

[theodorepong]

--- In asc2k@y..., "David Wilcock" <djw333@e...> wrote:
>
>
> "Do not offer service where none is requested." - Ra
>
> - David

Very important to keep in mind.
No amount of love bombing will make a difference and it is
inteference to give love if it is not asked for.

This is done ONLY to please the giver.

My opinion of David has just gone up a few notches.