Dr. Semkiw says 6 yr old is Cayce - not Wilcock

[meynardlevinson]

I was listening to Dr. Walter Semkiw today on The Aware Show on KPFK
radio in Los Angeles.

Semkiw - see http://johnadams.net/about.html for details - has worked
with reincarnation researchers, has a book to sell and otherwise went
on to claim that David Wilcock isn't really a continuation of Cayce but
rather an associate of his which accounts for some overlap and confusion
in the mind of Wilcock.

According to Semkiw's sources the real Cayce is currently reincarnated
in a 6 year old.

He went on to say that Cayce himself communicated through a channel
that he wanted David to stop claiming he had been Cayce.

I notice that David is appearing along with Dr. Semkiw and others in
the upcoming New Living Expo this month. I'm intrigued if David is
aware of Semkiw's take and how he might comment on it.

Meynard

[Chris Hamilton]

> I was listening to Dr. Walter Semkiw today on The Aware Show on KPFK radio
> in Los Angeles.
went on to claim that David Wilcock isn't really a continuation of Cayce
but rather an associate of his which accounts for some overlap and
confusion in the mind of Wilcock.

Meynard, here is the way I perceive this (and, btw, my opinion is not the
only one:). I have known DW for 6 years...here is MY Opinion only and not
what he or anyone else thinks......

I believe that DW has access to the "Akashic Records"
of which Cayce spoke. This enables DW to vibrate at a similar rate as Cayce
and see some past life experiences where they parralled in experience. BUT,
we are all separate, unique creatures when we incarnate in 3D. WE ARE NEVER
THAT SAME PERSON IN TIME, EVER, IN 3D. We may have the memories because of
energy patterns, but, we are never that person...twins are a good example of
our uniqueness in physical form.

Our singular experiences in 3D are simply because we are physical, and this
creates an experience with polarites, and infinite differences and free will
choices. Our spirit may be contracting a singular experience for us, in this
case with DW, it is the responsibility of educating those awake enough to
hear his message :). His personal quest in 3D is indeed atached to this,
but, again, his own personal 3D stuff is his to process, not ours. He has
just been kind enough in many cases to tell us what he is going thru in his
attempt to put some light bulbs in our heads about our own personal
behaviours compared to what he is going thru:). He gets criticized for this
many times, but I think we can all understand that by communicating his
humaness to us, that we might just be able to understand our personal
motivations. Anyway, that is what I personally feel David is trying to do,
and, if he wasn't leaving for Egypt in about 24 hours, I think he would
comment on my opinion:).

Reincarnation and being someone else is really quite confused in our
culture....we have to understand that if we remember a past life, it does
not mean we aren't unique from this memory. We ARE special in every
incarnation even if our soul is part of a whole consciousness. Love you all,
Chris



> He went on to say that Cayce himself communicated through a channel
> that he wanted David to stop claiming he had been Cayce.
>

[Charlie]

"meynardlevinson" wrote:

> According to Semkiw's sources the real Cayce is currently reincarnated
> in a 6 year old.
>
> He went on to say that Cayce himself communicated through a channel
> that he wanted David to stop claiming he had been Cayce.


Watch out David, you're going to have a six year old after you!

Might have a metaphysical lawsuit on your hands =)

But seriously I wouldn't put too much faith in what a channeler has to
channel, especially when they mention some who is still living. RED FLAG.

Is reincarnation even linear anyway?

David is David.

Aloha
Charlie

[David Wilcock]

From: meynardlevinson


I was listening to Dr. Walter Semkiw today on The Aware Show on KPFK
radio in Los Angeles.

Semkiw - see http://johnadams.net/about.html for details - has worked
with reincarnation researchers, has a book to sell and otherwise went
on to claim that David Wilcock isn't really a continuation of Cayce but
rather an associate of his which accounts for some overlap and confusion
in the mind of Wilcock.

According to Semkiw's sources the real Cayce is currently reincarnated
in a 6 year old.

He went on to say that Cayce himself communicated through a channel
that he wanted David to stop claiming he had been Cayce.

Dear Meynard and Group,

It is unfortunate that Walter has decided to formally declare war. Yet,
as Hoagland says, "The only time to worry is when they stop paying
attention." Which is precisely why I give this whole silly story no PR
whatsoever, until someone asked me about it directly. I may not ever
write about it again and will not answer questions if Semkiw tries to
confront me on stage.

There is very little I can say about this that wouldn't get into Law of
Confusion territory. Suffice it to say that any channel that would talk
about others while they are still alive (and especially to issue dark
threats and warn of "consequences", the part he's probably not saying
on-air), is not a positive source.

As anyone here knows, I devote very little of my time or focus on
whether or not I was someone else before. That only underlines the
silliness of their argument. Any positive Confederation source would
naturally want to advertise the Cayce connection as a means of
establishing credibility for a vitally important message - mainstreaming
and enhancing the Law of One material.

Peace be with you -

- David

[Jonathan Bethel]

It's amazing to watch people trying to further their story by taking odds
with your being,

I'm sorry this man has declared war with you. It's obvious this man is
trying to ride the

coattails of the "David Wilcock-Edgar Cayce" story by attempting to defame
it.

Mr. Semkiw should not try to gain attention by casting aspersions on you,
David.

And I agree with Hogland. "The only time to worry is when they stop paying
attention."

At least you know you got their attention.



Seshua





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From: meynardlevinson


I was listening to Dr. Walter Semkiw today on The Aware Show on KPFK
radio in Los Angeles.

Semkiw - see http://johnadams.net/about.html for details - has worked
with reincarnation researchers, has a book to sell and otherwise went
on to claim that David Wilcock isn't really a continuation of Cayce but
rather an associate of his which accounts for some overlap and confusion
in the mind of Wilcock.

According to Semkiw's sources the real Cayce is currently reincarnated
in a 6 year old.

He went on to say that Cayce himself communicated through a channel
that he wanted David to stop claiming he had been Cayce.

Dear Meynard and Group,

It is unfortunate that Walter has decided to formally declare war. Yet,
as Hoagland says, "The only time to worry is when they stop paying
attention." Which is precisely why I give this whole silly story no PR
whatsoever, until someone asked me about it directly. I may not ever
write about it again and will not answer questions if Semkiw tries to
confront me on stage.

There is very little I can say about this that wouldn't get into Law of
Confusion territory. Suffice it to say that any channel that would talk
about others while they are still alive (and especially to issue dark
threats and warn of "consequences", the part he's probably not saying
on-air), is not a positive source.

As anyone here knows, I devote very little of my time or focus on
whether or not I was someone else before. That only underlines the
silliness of their argument. Any positive Confederation source would
naturally want to advertise the Cayce connection as a means of
establishing credibility for a vitally important message - mainstreaming
and enhancing the Law of One material.

Peace be with you -

- David




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[Maryannatr7@...]

I wonder what proof he has that this 6 yr old is the reincarnation...it
sounds pretty
crazy that he would warn David about his role even his astrological record.is
significantly
like Edgars and certainly looks like him

I have been told I was Annie Besant whom I never known. When I investigated
her I found that she was born on the same day as me and also died shortly
before I was born.Although I have no memory of her there are similaritiesAnnie
was in the theosophical community
was married to a preacher and then became disenchanted with the Christian
religion.
Maryanna


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[Ed]

meynardlevinson wrote:
>
> I was listening to Dr. Walter Semkiw today on The Aware Show on KPFK
> radio in Los Angeles.
>
> Semkiw - see http://johnadams.net/about.html for details - has worked
> with reincarnation researchers, has a book to sell and otherwise went
> on to claim that David Wilcock isn't really a continuation of Cayce but
> rather an associate of his which accounts for some overlap and confusion
> in the mind of Wilcock.
>
> According to Semkiw's sources the real Cayce is currently reincarnated
> in a 6 year old.
>
> He went on to say that Cayce himself communicated through a channel
> that he wanted David to stop claiming he had been Cayce.
>

I would say that the probability of all the phenomena of
astrological features and the facial resemblances between Cayce and
Wilcock is almost impossible to be just by chance. One in a million,
or billion, or whatever.

Good channels and psychics say that there is always a sizable
possibility of error when they get material psychically or off the
akashic records; they might be 80 or 90% correct on average. The
channeled source may be correct but the imperfect human who is the
channel can filter the information knowingly or unknowingly, or may
lack the vocabulary or conceptual background to corectly translate the
material being presented into words. Another possibility is that the
channeled source is not what it says it is; it can be some STS being
claiming to be Jesus or St. Germain or whoever is very acceptable,
including Cayce. But the voice calling itself someone doesn't make it
true. This is why good channels always tell you to evaluate the
vibration and truth of the material and reject it if it doesn't feel
right.

So I would go with the extreme unusualness of the coincidences between
DW and Cayce as DW presents them.

All the best, Ed




> I notice that David is appearing along with Dr. Semkiw and others in
> the upcoming New Living Expo this month. I'm intrigued if David is
> aware of Semkiw's take and how he might comment on it.
>
> Meynard

[grantcleveland]

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>
precisely why I give this whole silly story no PR
> whatsoever, until someone asked me about it directly. I may not ever
> write about it again and will not answer questions if Semkiw tries to
confront me on stage.

Thanks for the refreshment David. You have no reason to prove yourself.
Doubt has nothing to do with how another should view thier own reality.
Your story is what it is for you and each person individually.

Controversy should do very well for getting your book out there too. No
press is bad press...

I hope you have an extremely rewarding experience in Egypt. I would
deffinately be there if possible. Please fill us all in when you get
back.

Peace-
Grant

[lealdragon]

Well said, David. This reminds me of a comment I once heard from the
CEO of a health food company, when asked about the 'competition'. He
said, 'bless them - they are helping us get this health food to the
people!'

I thought that was really cool, and indicates the positive source.

I think to fret over 'Will the Real Edgar Cayce Please Stand Up' is
really silly. I personally do think DW is probably indeed the
reincarnation of Cayce, but it really doesn't matter to me whether he
is or not. What matters is what DW is doing NOW, and what he is doing
is obviously important and valid.


> Confusion territory. Suffice it to say that any channel that would talk
> about others while they are still alive (and especially to issue dark
> threats and warn of "consequences", the part he's probably not saying
> on-air), is not a positive source.
>
> As anyone here knows, I devote very little of my time or focus on
> whether or not I was someone else before. That only underlines the
> silliness of their argument. Any positive Confederation source would
> naturally want to advertise the Cayce connection as a means of
> establishing credibility for a vitally important message - mainstreaming
> and enhancing the Law of One material.
>

[GenoNess1@...]

I think I need more information on the 6 year old.
love, me


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[Michael Bergman]

To me this whole reincarnation dispute is just silly. We are all
reincarnations of each other, of the one that is all. There is only one
self remember, there is only the one infinite Creator incarnating as all of
us. The Creator which we all are is me, is you, is David, is Cayce, is the
6 year old, is Dr.Semkiw and every other incarnation of isness that there
is. Who isn't the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce is a better question? I
know I am for if I wasn't I wouldn't be complete, I couldn't be the Creator
without being all of creation and that means every incarnation.

peace,
Mikey

[Shawn Bernal]

I thought the same thing, and knew that other truly enlightened folks looked at
the whole issue with kind amusement.
We are all One!

Michael Bergman <bergmanmichael@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=gw31CRbvVrSSKlGmukFVa0DjqFp95vg6gckamt Ng3D5wUwwgGUMqbt1z4vS-xzsigF7SA5jeCw3MMwEXeg)> wrote:
To me this whole reincarnation dispute is just silly. We are all
reincarnations of each other, of the one that is all. There is only one
self remember, there is only the one infinite Creator incarnating as all of
us. The Creator which we all are is me, is you, is David, is Cayce, is the
6 year old, is Dr.Semkiw and every other incarnation of isness that there
is. Who isn't the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce is a better question? I
know I am for if I wasn't I wouldn't be complete, I couldn't be the Creator
without being all of creation and that means every incarnation.

peace,
Mikey




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[Shawn Bernal]

This brings to mind a "soul group" incarnation, where the same "entity"
expresses itself simultaneously in various incarnations.
Though this situation may not be that, its a valid point.
lealdragon <lealdragon@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=8WrkXr9nvf0P8AS2zWqRSu0VsLSkPmVoUPH5P3 cgDt2t0_pPRoxij12mNuk2tvXQGyI4n8XjdnP2UZWcC4b9)> wrote:

Well said, David. This reminds me of a comment I once heard from the
CEO of a health food company, when asked about the 'competition'. He
said, 'bless them - they are helping us get this health food to the
people!'

I thought that was really cool, and indicates the positive source.

I think to fret over 'Will the Real Edgar Cayce Please Stand Up' is
really silly. I personally do think DW is probably indeed the
reincarnation of Cayce, but it really doesn't matter to me whether he
is or not. What matters is what DW is doing NOW, and what he is doing
is obviously important and valid.


> Confusion territory. Suffice it to say that any channel that would talk
> about others while they are still alive (and especially to issue dark
> threats and warn of "consequences", the part he's probably not saying
> on-air), is not a positive source.
>
> As anyone here knows, I devote very little of my time or focus on
> whether or not I was someone else before. That only underlines the
> silliness of their argument. Any positive Confederation source would
> naturally want to advertise the Cayce connection as a means of
> establishing credibility for a vitally important message - mainstreaming
> and enhancing the Law of One material.
>









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[kathpsyche]

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wrote:
>
>
> I was listening to Dr. Walter Semkiw today on The Aware Show on
KPFK
> radio in Los Angeles.
>
> Semkiw - see http://johnadams.net/about.html for details - has
worked
> with reincarnation researchers, has a book to sell and otherwise
went
> on to claim that David Wilcock isn't really a continuation of Cayce
but
> rather an associate of his which accounts for some overlap and
confusion
> in the mind of Wilcock.

Hi, Group -- just wanted to say that I also agree (especially
with "mikey"'s point) that this is a spurious claim and argument. I
have experienced a number of regressions to various past lives of
mine, and one of the most difficult things "I" had to come to terms
with was the direct EXPERIENCE of feeling that I was "I"/me in this
current incarnation, but that I was also an Irish barmaid "me" and a
Native American girl "me" and a drunken Englishmen "me", etc., etc.,
etc., Thing is, I actually felt mySELF to "be" each of those other
incarnations...but it never felt like the barmaid "turned into" the
Native American turned into the English drunk, and so on. (I now
think of it as I have an "I"/Self which is essence/soul, and that the
various incarnations are emanations of that ESSENCE, not of the
previous incarnations. And in line with mikey's point, soul essence
is an emanation of the One, so....we're all One) So from my point of
view neither David nor the 6 yo "are" Cayce...though each might
possibly be another individual emanation/3D expression of the essence
that previously had once incarnated in 3D as Cayce. And doesn't Ra
point out that Cayce was an incarnation of "his" essence (before Ra
moved into 4th and 5th dimensions and "became" "part" of a soul
memory complex rather than an individuated soul?) I thought I read
that in the LofO study guide? Kathy
>
> According to Semkiw's sources the real Cayce is currently
reincarnated
> in a 6 year old.
>
> He went on to say that Cayce himself communicated through a channel
> that he wanted David to stop claiming he had been Cayce.
>
> I notice that David is appearing along with Dr. Semkiw and others
in
> the upcoming New Living Expo this month. I'm intrigued if David is
> aware of Semkiw's take and how he might comment on it.
>
> Meynard

[meynardlevinson]

> Dear Meynard and Group,
>
> It is unfortunate that Walter has decided to formally declare war.

[SNIP]

> I may not ever write about it again and will not answer questions
> if Semkiw tries to confront me on stage.
>
> There is very little I can say about this that wouldn't get into
> Law of Confusion territory. Suffice it to say that any channel that
> would talk about others while they are still alive (and especially
> to issue dark threats and warn of "consequences", the part he's
> probably not saying on-air), is not a positive source.
>
> As anyone here knows, I devote very little of my time or focus on
> whether or not I was someone else before. That only underlines the
> silliness of their argument. Any positive Confederation source would
> naturally want to advertise the Cayce connection as a means of
> establishing credibility for a vitally important message -
> mainstreaming and enhancing the Law of One material.
>
> Peace be with you -
>
> - David

Hi David -

Thanks for your reply. I may come back at a more opportune time to
address your remarks more fully at a later time. I feel I need to
catch up a little on your story since my state of knowledge is parked
back in time a few years ago when I read your online books, your
website and dropped in on this list. The only updates since then have
been your Noory interviews and essays with Hoagland.

I also have your published book, have had it since its publication,
but haven't read it yet. I need to do that to properly address this
subject.

Even so, I'll make a couple of notes.

To me, there are 2 sides of this issue:
1. The truth.
2. Gossip.

As to #1, I'm not in agreement with those who say it doesn't matter
what the truth of reincarnation or specifically your reincarnation
is. If for no other reason I have no doubt your asserted suggestive
links with Cayce have strongly magnetized a lot of peoples' interest
iand perhaps at least an intial trust in you. I have no problem with
that, given you've been truthful and forthcoming in your efforts and
I have the sense you have but that is an intuition and not a final
verification of truth. But given you were Cayce once, you would be
just the person to ask about subjects he discussed since you would
presumably have access to his memory banks.

There are a lot of other issues revolving around #1 which can be
taken up at a different time but deep down for me they are all
expressions of something more central, something which has many names
so I'll pick one: the Road to Truth. Unlike politics, philosopy,
ethics and other potential sophistries, the Road to Truth is about
truth and my sense of you is you are a man after the truth and I
would expect nothing less than the truth in dealing with you.

Leaving that for now, I'll move on to the gossip side of it and that
is I'm left wondering why you didn't go ahead and say just what the
nature of Semkiw's "threats" or pronouncements of "consequences" are.
Referring to them and not stating them leaves me wondering just what
they are. There are many charlatans exploiting seekers in the name of
truth and I reserve a special contempt for these monsters because
nothing is worse to me than betrayal after promising hope and the
highest hope is the hope of spiritual elevation of some kind.

Exposing the shadows and nastiness of these creeps is healthy and
even fun in my book and, frankly, a guilty pleasure.

A reply to this would be nice if you have the time. Otherwise, I
expect I'll catch you on this topic after I've gone over your book.

Meynard

[smileyjaiy]

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> > He went on to say that Cayce himself communicated through a
channel
> > that he wanted David to stop claiming he had been Cayce.
> >
> > I notice that David is appearing along with Dr. Semkiw and others
> in
> > the upcoming New Living Expo this month. I'm intrigued if David
is
> > aware of Semkiw's take and how he might comment on it.
> >
> > Meynard


I wonder what Spongebob thinks about all this........

[Shawn Bernal]

SpongeBob says ask Patrick.

smileyjaiy <jdillon@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=dwS-yGGlgaKuH25eRtxCDVslFN8bZD9KlMyIeWEVhUyVbte0GhD0mG 9le4lP2xRE-Yctl0iMCMPk)> wrote:

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> > He went on to say that Cayce himself communicated through a
channel
> > that he wanted David to stop claiming he had been Cayce.
> >
> > I notice that David is appearing along with Dr. Semkiw and others
> in
> > the upcoming New Living Expo this month. I'm intrigued if David
is
> > aware of Semkiw's take and how he might comment on it.
> >
> > Meynard


I wonder what Spongebob thinks about all this........








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[Bjorn Nitmou]

>
> It is unfortunate that Walter has decided to
> formally declare war.
_______________
Wow David, this is a huge negetive greeting.
Congratulations, I think you have officially arrived.
You are now on the "Whos who" list of negetive
greetings. Its laughable, they dont stand a chance
against you. THis is a real mile stone for you. If
you werent becoming so polarized you would not be
deamed worthy of such a powerful greeting. They
really view you as a threat. Keep up the good work my
friend. My prayers are with everyone right now who
may be facing a negetive greeting as you all further
polarize. You are not alone, I support you.



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[Adam West]

Hi all,

>> It is unfortunate that Walter has decided to
>> formally declare war.
> _______________
> Wow David, this is a huge negative greeting.

I would like to offer an alternative point of view. From my
perspective, I don't see this as a big deal at all! From the academic
perspective, it is perfectly valid to question whether or not David is as he
claims to be, the reincarnation of the Cayce. No one knows with any
certainly that he is, nor does David I suspect, keep in mind the proper
implications of the word certainty.

David him self has in the past has given comprehensive reviews of what
he perceives to be the quality of others claims and the material they
represent. He has made his views quite clear, and he is perfectly with in
his rights to do so. This is the nature of academics, in the ideal since,
it is not personal, and David needn't take it personally.

On another level, it really is quite irrelevant and not worth giving any
energy or time to. With in this world in general and with in the world of
academics in particular, there is always some one who will disagree with
you, and criticize your ideas, it is not personal. No one knows the truth
of the matter, the difference is David presumably believes he is Cayce, as
do many on this list. This is a huge filter and bias in ones thinking, it
may well be accurate, but others around the world who do not hold this bias
have every right to question it, and it should be no surprise that they do
:-)

In my view, one must always think for our selves, with proper research,
logic and intuition. This is the only way to avoid absurdities with in our
thinking and from the spiritual perspective, getting involved with in a
cult. It is the fruit of David's work that will measure its and his worth
to us as aspirants on the path. Naturally, we could all do with out
emotionally clouded judgments :-)

As a personal note, I think quite highly of David and his work, he is
doing a valuable service for the spiritual community and that of the
collective consciousness as a whole. This is just as true as many others,
his critics also....

In kind regards,

Adam.

[Seek Up]

Hey fellas,



I haven't read all the replies to this original post, so i don't know of this
thought's evolution and others reactions to Dr Semkiw's opinion, but I
nonetheless feel that I may have something of a unique testimony to contribute.



Actually, i wrote this into Asc2k over a year ago I believe. It went something
like this:



Jim and Carla, before their house filled up with fellow wanderers, used to host
an event every February which they dubbed, "Homecoming". The last one that they
were able to throw happened in February, 2003. In attendance for that particular
meeting were Vara, David, and I. It was the weekend in which we all decided we'd
give the living in spiritual community idea a go.



Many great things came from that Homecoming, but what's relevant to this thread
is the personally validating experience that unfolded for me as a result of
having spent a few days in the company of DW. I had met him before at past
TOGS's, but never had the opportunity to be in the immediate vicinity of his
person for such an extended period of time.



Well, after three or four straight days, I returned home to northeast Ohio to
live out my last few months in that old life. During that time period I was
channel surfing and found myself stopped for a moment on either the History
channel or the Discovery, one or the other, to watch a segment they had running
about Atlantis.



I guess it'd be difficult to do a program on Atlantis without reference to
Cayce, so the show introduced Cayce's connection to the myth, focusing
specifically on his prophecies. When they did that they had on screen a
photograph of the man for several seconds.



Floating along with that show, paying no particularly special attention to it, I
was startled when I saw Cayce's photo. Out JUMPED at me were thee same eyes I
had seen for an entire weekend just a short time ago. Alerting my mind to
something incredible was two different people, each with the same exact eyes.
It's actually a pretty awesome experience, that opens your world just a nudge
more, to get a personal glimpse of the survival of life from one form to the
next.



I've always had a knack to see similarities in facial structures and
resemblances -- to catch onto people being related to one another without having
been told so, to instantly compare faces of the past with the new faces in my
life and connect the similarities, and even to catch the faintest congruency
between a face and those of a celebrity?s burnt into my noggin.



I was not, in any way, shape, or form looking for it when I had this experience
watching TV, but there it was, right in front of my face. It was undeniable and,
having occurred so spontaneously, something that I would not attribute directly
to conscious calculation but to a subconscious recognition. I went on to live
with the man for a year and a half and to this day I can open up, "There Is a
River", and see the same David I lived with and grew to know. Or, rather, see
the same something shining out behind the eyes of both Cayce and Wilcock.



*What exactly is in common between the two, i could not conclude for you, but I
will tell you that there IS indeed something there being shared. The idea and
the mechanics of reincarnation is, in my mind, open to debate as I have found no
definitive account of its processes. However, I will add a very cool thought
that I recently read in a PHENOMENAL book entitled, "The World's Religions", by
Huston Smith.



"... His [the Buddha's] denial of spiritual substance -- the soul as a
homunculus, a ghostly wraith within the body that animates the body and outlasts
it -- appears to have been the chief point that distinguished his concept of
transmigration from prevailing Hindu interpretations. Authentic child of India,
the Buddha did not doubt that reincarnation was in some sense a fact, but he was
openly critical of the way his Brahmanic contemporaries interpreted the concept.
The crux of his criticism may be gathered from the clearest description he gave
of his own view on the subject. He used the image of a flame being passed from
candle to candle. As it is difficult to think of the flame on the final candle
as being the original flame, the connection would seem to be a causal one, in
which influence was transmitted by chain reaction but without a perduring
substance."



I do not claim that David IS Cayce, or that he is the sequential, next
incarnation ? this I can claim no knowing of. What I can say with absolute
honesty, integrity, and confidence is that I have seen for myself not what I
would call a similarity, but thee same set of eyes, or, taken less on the
physical surface, the same something behind those eyes. That does not mean that
everything that pours forth from DW?s mouth is golden -- that just means what it
means to me, it means what it means to Dr. Semkiw, and it means what it means to
you.



From what I?ve witnessed, David, by being David, can incite an emotional
reaction from others ? in either a negative spirit or a positive one. We all
react to each other in such ways, nothing unique to DW. But, his self-claimed
connection to Cayce does seem to stir up others? belief systems, for better or
worse, and create an expressed emotional bias. Some adamantly do not wish him a
connection to Cayce, others wholeheartedly subscribe and believe him to be the
next incarnation of the soul that was Cayce, and still others pay no mind and
could care less one way or another.



To any group on this particular issue, reality will be written by the perceiver,
regardless of how solid or how flimsy are the ?facts?. It?s the way it always
works and will continue to work. It?s all in our heads. Ultimately, of course
(not that you need me to tell you this), this issue matters not; but, it is,
like anything else is, interesting.



Love on and believe,

In your hearts,

Gary





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[Chris Hamilton]

From: "Seek Up" <glbean34@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=tcfGyFlYKYLfGqGbrVMCcHAswz-8nW8dt-CH-HHA9rI9dke9yCHWNIhRgUzM6FBmfbBaBY7IqeJvRHTV)>
I was startled when I saw Cayce's photo. Out JUMPED at me were thee same
eyes I had seen for an entire weekend just a short time ago. Alerting my
mind to something incredible was two different people, each with the same
exact eyes. . It was undeniable and, having occurred so spontaneously,
something that I would not attribute directly to conscious calculation but
to a subconscious recognition. ..... and see the same David I lived with and
grew to know. Or, rather, see the same something shining out behind the eyes
of both Cayce and Wilcock.

*What exactly is in common between the two, i could not conclude for you,
but I will tell you that there IS indeed something there being shared. In
your hearts, Gary
___________________
Chris: I found this statement from The LoO material, Book II, Session 50:
"Let us re-examine this metaphor and multiply it into the longest poker game
you can imagine, a lifetime. The cards are love, dislike, limitation,
unhappiness, pleasure, etc. They are dealt and re-dealt and re-dealt
continuously. You may, during this incarnation begin-and we stress begin-to
know your own cards. You may begin to find the love within you. You may
begin to balance your pleasure, your limitations, etc. However, your only
indication of other-selves' cards is to LOOK INTO THE EYES.

You cannot remember your hand, their hands, perhaps even the rules of this
game. This game can only be won by those who lose their cards in the melting
influence of love, can only be won by those who lay their pleasures, their
limitations, their all upon the table face up and say inwardly: "All, all of
you players, each other-self, whatever your hand, I love you." This is the
game: to know, to accept, to forgive, to balance, and to open the self in
love. This cannot be done without the forgetting, for it would carry no
weight in the life of the mind/body/spirit being-ness totality."

[Dana]

___________________
> Chris: I found this statement from The LoO material, Book II, Session
50:
> "Let us re-examine this metaphor and multiply it into the longest
poker game
> you can imagine, a lifetime. The cards are love, dislike, limitation,
> unhappiness, pleasure, etc. They are dealt and re-dealt and re-dealt
> continuously. You may, during this incarnation begin-and we stress
begin-to
> know your own cards. You may begin to find the love within you. You
may
> begin to balance your pleasure, your limitations, etc. However, your
only
> indication of other-selves' cards is to LOOK INTO THE EYES.
>

Dana: This reminds me of something my grandmother used to tell me...The
eyes are the window to the soul.