Atlantis

[B.J. Burton]

As a student of Edgar Casey back in the late 60's and 70's I was very interested
in the concept of the Law of One and the final destruction of Atlantis. I am
very confused by Mr. Casey's view of Atlantis as a war-like race and that the
final destruction occured when the Atlanteans tried to use a device to destroy
an enemy on the opposite side of the planet at that time. Who was the enemy.
We know they were at war with Greeks, according to Plato but Greece was not that
far away that they would need to use a device that would pierce the Earth's
mantle. Was it possibly this enemy was the Ramans in India?

Thank you for your help.

Regards.

BJ.

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[smileyjaiy]

Your thougths are probably correct. There are references to ancient
India in which they speak of flying machines and weapons whose effects
are strikingly similar to atomic bombs. Unfortunately, I do not recall
the name of the texts from which these events are described.



>
> As a student of Edgar Casey back in the late 60's and 70's I was ...
..... Was it possibly this enemy was the Ramans in India?
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Regards.
>
> BJ.

[NEIL HADDON]

`Smileyjaiy wrote;
"There are references to ancient
India in which they speak of flying machines and weapons whose effects
are strikingly similar to atomic bombs."

The area north of new Delhi is regarded by many as the cradle of Indian
civilisation and culture. Most of the Vedic literature was composed here and
much of the social, religious and political traditions of India originated in
this region. The district and town of Kurukshetra is regarded as the battle
field of Mahabharata, a great 18-day battle fought here in the ancient past
between Kauravas and Pandavas for upholding the cause of dharma (divine law).



The Mahabharata, written in Sanskrit between 300BC and 300AD is an ancient
religious epic collection of traditions and stories handed down by word of mouth
for hundreds of years previously. The core event of that story is the great
battle that was fought on the field of Kurukshetra between the five sons of King
Pandu and their allies on the one side and the hundred sons of King
Dhritarashtra, with their allies, on the other side. The battle was the
culmination of a long history of struggle and diplomatic manoeuvring, and it
involved virtually every tribal king and every powerful city-state in Central
and Northern India at the time.

It was a tragic war that pitted brothers against brothers, sons against fathers
and uncles, brave noble men against brave noble men. And it was devastating.
Nearly all of the best men died in the long battle. The Pandavas, the son of
King Pandu, survived, but there was no victory, for the war had destroyed the
world that they knew, and the emptiness of what they had won coloured the rest
of their lives. (Sound familiar?)



In the Mahabharata, there is a graphic description of the explosion that follows
the use of 'a Brahma-astra' (nuclear weapon). The vivid Sanskrit prose describes
in great detail the classical mushroom shaped cloud, the intense heat and
radiation, the nuclear winter that follows, and the horrible effects on its
miserable survivors:

"(the weapon was) a single projectile charged with all the power of the
Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand
suns rose in all its splendor. An iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of
death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable.



The hair and nails fell out [radiation poisoning?]; pottery broke without
apparent cause, and the birds turned white.... after a few hours all foodstuffs
were infected [again radiation poisoning?].... to escape from this fire, the
soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment..."



The Drona Parva [Book of Drona] relates:

"The valiant Adwatthaman, then staying resolutely on his (vimana) [flying
machine made of wood, with wings and an engine :NH] touched water and invoked
the Agneya weapon, incapable of being resisted by the very Gods. Aiming at all
his visible and invisible foes, the preceptor's son, that Slayer of hostile
heroes, inspired with mantras a blazing shaft of the effulgence of a smokeless
fire and let it off on all sides, filled with rage. Dense showers of arrows then
issued from it in the welkin (heavens :NH). Endued with fiery flames those
arrows encompassed Parthie on all sides. Meteors flashed down from the
firmament. A thick gloom suddenly shrouded the (Pandava) host. All points of the
compass also were enveloped by that darkness. Inauspicious winds began to blow.
The Sun himself no longer gave any heat. The very elements seemed to be
perturbed. The Universe scorched with heats seemed to be in a fever. The
elephants and other creatures of the land scorched by the energy of that weapon,
ran in fright, breathing heavily and desirous of protection against that
terrible force. The very water being heated, the creatures residing in that
element, O Bharata, became exceedingly uneasy and seemed to burn.Huge elephants
burnt by that weapon, fell down on the Earth all around, uttering fierce cries
loud as those of the clouds. Other huge elephants, scorched by that fire, ran
hither and thither, roared aloud in fear, as if in the midst of a forest
conflagration. The steeds, O King, and the cars also burnt by that weapon
looked, O Sire, like the tops of trees burnt in a forest fire."



In a post to the Audarya Fellowship discussion forum, December 2000, Professor
Shantanu Nagarkatti, Surgeon, and expert lecturer on the Bhagavad-Gita, is
quoted as follows:

"An archaeologist from the former Soviet Union, Professor A.A. Gorbovsky
unearthed from the fields of Kurukshetra (north of New Delhi) - a human skull.
He took this skull back with him to his country to study and carbon date it. His
evidence revealed that this skull belonged to a man who died in a war 5,000
years ago - the approximate date of the battle of Kurukshetra. Amazingly, the
skull emitted radiation similar to that of an object exposed to a nuclear
blast."



Metal models of flying machines were also unearthed from Aztec or Maya ruins,
and are now in museum in Germany - can't remember exact details without digging.

Love.

Neil


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[smileyjaiy]

> The Mahabharata, written in Sanskrit between 300BC and 300AD is an
ancient religious epic collection of traditions......
>
> It was a tragic war that pitted brothers against brothers,

Yes...I am familiar with the Mahabharata but did not reference it
because this was not the work or time frame I was referencing...
unfortunately that which I am referencing I no longer have(books)...
yet I do have some memories that relate to this as is...
However, ancient India in which I refer too goes back to
pre-Mahabrata times. Originally 'colonized' by Pleidians in South
India 2,000,000 years ago during the peak of a Sat Yuga period (which
is a time line connected to the revolutions around the Galaxy
center).
The relics of this colonization are the culture of temple worship, as
an example. Originally at that time the etheric was so charged and
alive on the planet, that fruits and plants grew much bigger than
they
are today as evidence to the abundance of energy. The Pleidians
travelled astrally, not by material ship, under the guidance of
Muragan. The first comers spent time in the atmosphere until they
were
able to gradually manifest a body, once they did, they used their
bodies to build temples in order to facilitate the arrival of other
travellors and hasten their materialization into physical bodies as
well. The travellers in their astal bodies would abide at the temples
while their physical brothers/sisters gathered fruits and flowers and
other offerings placing these at the temple so that the astral bodies
could feed off the concetrated etheric energies and in turn gradually
become physical themselves. The point of all this is that the
Pleidians like their descendant vedic culture in India was a Earth
based spirituality. That is although they developed technology they
always had a nature based orientation. As such they were able to
interact with cultures like that from Lemuria without conflict.
However, the Atlantians were a technologicaly(or Spirit based)
orientated culture that came to this planet via technology. You could
say the Atlanteans always has a tendency towards the patriarchal and
the Pleadians-Vedic-Indians had a matriarchal orientation, none
instrisically superior to the other but when either was not in
balance
with themselves conflict arose. And because of their inherently
different orientations the two cultures did battle against each
other at times.
The Mahabaratta was an internal battle, the one I speak of were the
battles between the Vedic race and the Atlanteans which was prior the
the Mahabaratta time frame.

[B.J. Burton]

Thank you smileyjaiy, your information is invaluable. I realise now I really
know very little of the past and will have to increase my investigation to fully
understand this period. What you you know of David Hatcher Childress?

Regards

BJ

smileyjaiy <jdillon@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=O9woBMGtGxd8ihZH-cJ0tJMxZwy-nwHfPL7Mw83rzpjU-vndDst17oKqPkUAD_TxrrLE-Aa4)> wrote:


> The Mahabharata, written in Sanskrit between 300BC and 300AD is an
ancient religious epic collection of traditions......
>
> It was a tragic war that pitted brothers against brothers,

Yes...I am familiar with the Mahabharata but did not reference it
because this was not the work or time frame I was referencing...
unfortunately that which I am referencing I no longer have(books)...
yet I do have some memories that relate to this as is...
However, ancient India in which I refer too goes back to
pre-Mahabrata times. Originally 'colonized' by Pleidians in South
India 2,000,000 years ago during the peak of a Sat Yuga period (which
is a time line connected to the revolutions around the Galaxy
center).

[smileyjaiy]

> Thank you smileyjaiy, your information is invaluable. I realise now
I really know very little of the past and will have to increase my
investigation to fully understand this period. What you you know of
David Hatcher Childress?

Thank you BJ for giving me the oportunity to express myself...I do not
know of David Hatcher Childress...perhaps you will be able to sometime
reveal aspects of the past that myself and others still do not know as
you continue your investigation...Doors of infinity revolving the
knowledge of no end......