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usn_5371
03-17-2005, 09:34 AM
Has anybody noticed the every increasing amount of sci-fi films &
T.V programms around? I have a sort of theory that films are
real/true, I mean some film makers are producing films
through "unknowingly" psychic means or maybe because of the amount
of attenion these films get makes them reality or its just that if
you can think it then its real. is the increase in these types of
films just a result of our awakening?
lealdragon
03-17-2005, 01:27 PM
David mentions Star Wars on his website, but I always wondered why
Star Trek was not mentioned. (you're not a Trekkie, David?) Actually
the later series, Next Generation and Voyager especially, are
extremely profound. They have the 'Prime Directive' (do not intrude
upon other civilizations' free will, do not interfere unless asked)
and other concepts that are right out of the LoO!
Also, nearly every episode deals with some social dilemma, mirroring
our own societies. They have dealt with all sorts of topics, like
prejudice, war, greed, etc. In fact, when my son was about 9, we
started watching the Next Gen. reruns together, and I told everyone
it was his character development curriculum!
Not to mention, all the cool time travel, alternate universes, and
other cool topics explored. And all this with a minimum of shoot 'em
up! (well compared with other movies/tv shows, anyway - relatively
speaking, much less violent!)
I have always suspected that the ideas for ST came from the
Confederation somehow - the concepts are just too right-on.
>
> Has anybody noticed the every increasing amount of sci-fi films &
> T.V programms around? I have a sort of theory that films are
> real/true
David Wilcock
03-17-2005, 04:38 PM
From: lealdragon
David mentions Star Wars on his website, but I always wondered why
Star Trek was not mentioned. (you're not a Trekkie, David?)
DW: I watched Next Generation in high school but did not see more than 4
hours of television a year from 1991 to 2003.
>Actually
the later series, Next Generation and Voyager especially, are
extremely profound. They have the 'Prime Directive' (do not intrude
upon other civilizations' free will, do not interfere unless asked)
and other concepts that are right out of the LoO!
Also, nearly every episode deals with some social dilemma, mirroring
our own societies. They have dealt with all sorts of topics, like
prejudice, war, greed, etc. In fact, when my son was about 9, we
started watching the Next Gen. reruns together, and I told everyone
it was his character development curriculum!
DW: "Cosmic Voyage" by Dr. Courtney Brown DID seem to have a lot right,
as it checked out with the Law of One quite well on many points. He was
shown in some of his sessions that uncredited telepathic ET influences
were involved in the writing of Next Generation episodes. The people
involved only thought it was a dream and did not understand the process.
>Not to mention, all the cool time travel, alternate universes, and
other cool topics explored.
DW: Well, there's WAY too much emphasis on naming some new particle to
fit the plot at hand ... but I digress ... :P
>And all this with a minimum of shoot 'em
up! (well compared with other movies/tv shows, anyway - relatively
speaking, much less violent!)
I have always suspected that the ideas for ST came from the
Confederation somehow - the concepts are just too right-on.
DW: At this point what you're about to read is extremely dubious at best
... uncorrelated ... but I did get this from my co-author and have no
idea if it's true. It could be ... more research is definitely
necessary. If so it would be interesting.
More and more people are being led to go beyond the mundane question of
"Is there intelligent life in the universe", and on to deeper and more
significant questions such as "What form does other life in the universe
take?" and "Is it friendly toward man or not?" In their search for
answers to these questions, people are frequently turning more to
science-fiction writers than to the scientists.
Thirty years ago, a then middle-aged man sat with a group of people who
were listening to a woman named Phyllis Schlemmer as she channeled the
thoughts and answers of a circle of beings called the Council of Nine.
This group said they existed outside the universe of space and time, and
are communicating with Earth at this time to prepare us for our
coming-out party, a time in which we will join the cosmic family of the
universe.
The understandings the man got during his attendance at those
channelings helped lead him to create a futuristic television series
that would, during its three year run back in the 1960s, find only
mediocre success. The series that man created still lives with us today
as one of the truly great phenomena of television. The man's name was
Gene Roddenberry. The series, of course, was the original version of
Star Trek.
Star Trek was Roddenberry's way of sharing the information he was
receiving in these channeling situations. It is indeed interesting to
hear some of the questions he asked, as well as to some of the answers
he received. One question and its answer that pertains directly to our
topic is as follows:
Gene: There's a question that I cannot avoid asking: why you do not
give strong and definite signs of your existence or proximity, on top of
approaching humanity by indirect means such as these channelings, or
other ways? Obviously you have your reasons, but this question does
matter to me.
Tom (an acronym for the spokesperson for the council): It is of great
importance for you to understand that your governments of your world of
Earth have refused to publicly believe, or to convey to the people, our
existence. If there were an attempt by the (alien) civilizations to land
upon Planet Earth in a mass situation, which in truth will come to pass
in the course of time, the people upon Planet Earth would panic, for
they have not the understanding, the knowledge, that we would mean no
harm to them.
Remember this: there are also certain civilizations, not of the
Twenty-Four or their helper civilizations (Roddenberry's model for the
Federation in Star Trek), that have a great desire to control Planet
Earth, to keep souls in bondage. And these civilizations have landed at
times upon Planet Earth and have created difficulty, which they forced
on Planet Earth people.
It is important that there is no panic amongst those that exist on the
planet Earth: that the knowledge be brought to them in gentleness, that
those of the Twenty-Four civilizations mean no harm to them.
A broad range of these questions and answers can be found in the book,
Only Planet of Choice: Essential Briefings from Deep Space by Phyllis
Schlemmer and Palden Jenkins
DW: That's it ... and remember I am not saying the above is anything
other than a fantasy. It is interesting, that's all!
Peace be with you -
- David
David Wilcock wrote:
>
[snipping all but this part]
> From: lealdragon
>
>
> I have always suspected that the ideas for ST came from the
> Confederation somehow - the concepts are just too right-on.
>
> DW: At this point what you're about to read is extremely dubious at best
> ... uncorrelated ... but I did get this from my co-author and have no
> idea if it's true. It could be ... more research is definitely
> necessary. If so it would be interesting.
[snipping story of Gene Roddenberry and Council of Nine
channelings]
Also apropos of this, the entity Bashar (an extraterrestrial of
the hybrid race called Essassani, offspring of Zetas and humans,
channeled by Darryl Anka) said in 1987, and I paraphrase:
"Your first large-scale mass awareness of ETs was in 1947. You will be
full members of the Association [i.e., the Confederation] in about
2027. Imagine a guitar string being plucked, and the midpoint that is
still is now, 1987, the Harmonic Convergence. Imagine also the
midpoints 1967 and 2007. In 1967, guess what major breakthrough into
your culture occurred? (audience is stumped)... your Star Trek: the
new idea of ETs and the universe out there as more than just hostile
and warlike, but including high intelligence and awareness. And 2007,
that will be about when you first make contact with the Association.
This is the cycle from unawareness of ETs and the grander universe out
there to being fully part of it."
All the best, Ed
lealdragon
03-18-2005, 09:42 AM
Thanks for sharing this info, David. Having seen all the ST episodes
several times over, whether it's true or not that Roddenbury got the
idea from channeled sources, I will say that overall the series have
ALOT of truth and integrity.
I think they are great for kids (as well as adults), much better
quality than alot of what's out there that kids get into.
> A broad range of these questions and answers can be found in the book,
> Only Planet of Choice: Essential Briefings from Deep Space by Phyllis
> Schlemmer and Palden Jenkins
>
> DW: That's it ... and remember I am not saying the above is anything
> other than a fantasy. It is interesting, that's all!
Jeremy
03-18-2005, 09:46 AM
My personal opinion is that Star Trek is extremely consonant with many
Confederation concepts and philosophies. Keep in mind that Gene Roddenberry was
involved in the channeling of (alleged) Confed. sources (The book "Only Planet
of Choice" is the best example). The most positive thing that Star Trek conveys
(as opposed to Star Wars) is a genuine sense of the mystery of the universe. It
was spiritual without being preachy - a humanistic approach to human potential.
Sometimes it comes across corny but there's very little comparable material in
serial television. There are definately some episodes of Star Trek that have
brought me to tears - I'm thinking of the one where Picard lives an entire
lifetime on another planet in a moment, especially. I think that sense of
wonder and mystery is an important element of the S.T. world that the
post-Roddenberry episodes have largely lost.
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Peter Duggan
03-18-2005, 03:37 PM
on 19/3/05 3:46 AM, Jeremy at jeremy@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=k-7hYiLE8eCh1X8B1PTadb9pZPNSp5jRX35tGlP7AK100iWkxVpF 8nqWjO-Bh-_EaFiKy1eMlyOPD3NWm0555g) wrote:
>
> My personal opinion is that Star Trek is extremely consonant with many
> Confederation concepts and philosophies. Keep in mind that Gene Roddenberry
> was involved in the channeling of (alleged) Confed. sources (The book "Only
> Planet of Choice" is the best example). The most positive thing that Star
> Trek conveys (as opposed to Star Wars) is a genuine sense of the mystery of
> the universe. It was spiritual without being preachy - a humanistic approach
> to human potential. Sometimes it comes across corny but there's very little
> comparable material in serial television.
Don't forget Babylon 5 - and some episodes of Stargate - SG1 are pretty good
Charlie
03-18-2005, 07:20 PM
If you are interested check out the files section for the group @
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asc2k/files/
I have uploaded a pdf there named, TNTC Vol. 1 Issue 2.pdf.
It has three movie reviews, Star Wars, Wizard of Oz and Batman and goes into
exquisit detail as to how these stories are directly related to our journey
in consciousness and come from consciousness (seeing as that is the only
game in town) not from the writers per se. In other issues, one of the Star
Treks, Rear Window, Dracula, The Abyss and Indiana Jones and the Last
Crusade are reviewed in a similar fashion.
This clarity of insight humbles me.
Aloha
Charlie
> From: usn_5371 <cjhayden@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=QCHkJtBDyziiYiSI6kww6zJGxw369iYLvfpTKI XZO3gksUEamkgAgLIrK0o5HAFW7OLlPuwu9F8ARz0)>
> Subject: [asc2k] Am I imagining things?
>
>
> Has anybody noticed the every increasing amount of sci-fi films &
> T.V programms around? I have a sort of theory that films are
> real/true, I mean some film makers are producing films
> through "unknowingly" psychic means or maybe because of the amount
> of attenion these films get makes them reality or its just that if
> you can think it then its real. is the increase in these types of
> films just a result of our awakening?
srachele2004
03-18-2005, 07:55 PM
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=FFVa5PG1F27l1Ih76vaVzcd7viAhzy4f51jRQ4 7KLAp7lV00XlpDr0E-erYaXzZ7xYX4Gz6tWP5EQggfFds), "lealdragon" <lealdragon@s...> wrote:
>
> David mentions Star Wars on his website, but I always wondered why
> Star Trek was not mentioned...
>
> ...I have always suspected that the ideas for ST came from the
> Confederation somehow - the concepts are just too right-on.
Sal: Star Trek has always been my favorite show. One of my favorite
episodes is the one where a guy seeks refuge aboard the Enterprise
because his world is afraid of him and the changes he's going through.
Near the end of the episode, he turns into a being of light - the
first of his species to undergo the transformation.
lealdragon
03-18-2005, 11:11 PM
Yes, and the respect for other cultures, other species...such integrity.
Oh, that was SUCH a powerful episode! One of my favs too. Then there's
the one called 'Defector' where the Romulan warrior has to 'convince'
Picard that he truly wants peace, and he says that he is willing to
allow his daughter to grow up in a Federation-run universe, because
'she will grow up'.
Ah, we could go on...ST was such high quality. I agree totally.
>there's very little comparable material in serial television. There
are definately some episodes of Star Trek that have brought me to
tears - I'm thinking of the one where Picard lives an entire lifetime
on another planet in a moment, especially. I think that sense of
wonder and mystery is an important element of the S.T. world that the
post-Roddenberry episodes have largely lost.
Dave M.
03-19-2005, 12:07 AM
Well, I'm just recuperating from the flu which I caught earlier in the week.
For 2 days I did nothing
but watch TV. Normally, I don't watch that much in year. So here are my
impressions of my TV overdose.
Maybe it was just that I felt especially irritable and achy, but I found myself
having an internal
dialog with everything on screen. It seemed to me that just about everything on
TV was selling some
sort of illusion or another that I needed to set straight for my own peace of
mind.
It seems the news channels are merely diversions from reality, and I get more
truth from watching The
Daily Show. I read somewhere that many people are now turning to comedy news
programs for news instead
of 'serious' nightly news programs. Hmm...I wonder why?
Seems that at least some science fiction more closely resembles what could be
science-fact, and the
science shows are watered down and in some cases scientifically nonfactual.
The most obvious and simple truths cannot even be acknowledged on TV as being
anything other than
imagination, and some of the biggest illusions and lies are rammed down your
throat as incontrovertible
truth. Madison Avenue mind control at its best.
Every action is given the name of its' opposite: Initiating a war is going on
the offense, but to pay
for same we need to increase our spending for defense. Our attacking forces are
called 'peace keeping'
coalitions, the group that comprise this 'coalition' unilaterally went against
the will of the UN (a
somewhat multilateral coalition of nations) in order to have war.
We are told that this war was initiated to bring us peace by bringing freedom
and democracy to a
dictatorship. This, after first being sold the WMD lie. How can forcing
freedom on a country through
war be considered freedom? Freedom is having free will, which is automatically
discarded when it is
forced on someone....Sounds like control to me.
'Supporting our troops' means sending them off to die or be maimed. Logical
conclusion: things are
getting 'safer' because 'war brings peace'.
I could go on, but you get the idea. Guess I should have watched ST -Dave
Graeme
03-19-2005, 03:11 AM
Even though Stargate SG1 is cheesy as all hell, I've wound up watching
almost all of the episodes ever made. How could I resist a show
featuring ascension, wormhole travel, hyperspace, aliens, psychic
powers AND meditation? (I've probably missed some other good stuff
out there - oh yeah, atlantis and ancient civilisations too!)
It makes me wonder about Richard Hoagland's notion that we're being
gradually 'warmed up' to a greater galactic reality via TV. Sounds
far-fetched, but just maybe...
Love and Light,
Graeme
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=zMsFb61sObDZD65VSsi_YuYS3Zoy_Xt8q0m1fW gx_ooQVgb4ITM9pGNYBhf6_fzh4hEHcweB6xoH-M-yHdG4qQ), Peter Duggan <pdd2004@i...> wrote:
>
> Don't forget Babylon 5 - and some episodes of Stargate - SG1 are
pretty good
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