raconsel@...
09-19-2001, 10:05 AM
--- In asc2k@y..., "David Wilcock" <djw333@e...> wrote:
> From: raconsel@y... [mailto:raconsel@y...]
>
> Regardless of how far anyone can go in explaining the workings of the
> Universe rationally, there is still a leap of faith that must be >made.
<snip>
thank you david for that bundle of info, but i don't see what most of it has to
do with my last message on the need to look to god. it appears that you chose to
focus on me quite a bit, insignificant and foolish as i am (wasn't that the
second greatest ignorance?). but actually i wasn't asking for counseling, and
i'm such a perfect idiot that i couldn't possibly benefit from it anyway.
my point was that there has never been and never will be any ascension without
the grace of god. so no matter how much we control the monkey mind or understand
the scientific proof of how the universe works; no matter how much time we put
into grasping the scientific case as presented in your or any other person's
book; no matter how much healing is done or wonder at what we have created or
deep meditation, we ain't going nowhere near back home without the grace of god.
in order to prepare to receive that grace of god we have to look to god (love,
truth, reality) and to god alone, nowhere else.
all lesser foci, inc. scientific theories/proof, intellectual studies of the
'how' and 'why' or 'when' of ascension (and intellectual studies of anything
else), etc., etc. all equate to a distraction from god and so prevent us from
looking where we are going, and so we inevitably trip and fall.
it's simple really, and even a child can enter the kingdom of heaven, right? and
without studying the scientific proof. so why not just look to god and keep it
simple and true?
a simple story to illustrate the simple point, O ye complex one:
A man dies and goes toward heaven. Of course, St. Peter meets him
at the Pearly Gates.
St. Peter says, "Here's how it works. You need 100 points to make it into
heaven. You tell me all the good things you've done, and I give you a certain
number of points for each item, depending on how good it was. When you reach 100
points, you can get in."
"Okay," the man says, "I was married to the same woman for 50 years and never
cheated on her, even in my heart."
"That's wonderful," says St. Peter, "that's worth three points!"
"Three points?" he says. "Well, I attended church all my life and supported its
ministry with my tithe and service."
"Terrific!" says St. Peter. "That's certainly worth a point."
"One point? I started a soup kitchen in my city and worked in a shelter for
homeless veterans."
"Fantastic, that's good for two more points," he says.
"Two points!" the man cries. "At this rate, the only way I get into heaven is by
the grace of God!"
"Bingo! 100 points! Come on in!"
hint: there is a profound message and teaching in all the above, folks. may they
with eyes to see have a freakin' good look!
luv,
ron
> From: raconsel@y... [mailto:raconsel@y...]
>
> Regardless of how far anyone can go in explaining the workings of the
> Universe rationally, there is still a leap of faith that must be >made.
<snip>
thank you david for that bundle of info, but i don't see what most of it has to
do with my last message on the need to look to god. it appears that you chose to
focus on me quite a bit, insignificant and foolish as i am (wasn't that the
second greatest ignorance?). but actually i wasn't asking for counseling, and
i'm such a perfect idiot that i couldn't possibly benefit from it anyway.
my point was that there has never been and never will be any ascension without
the grace of god. so no matter how much we control the monkey mind or understand
the scientific proof of how the universe works; no matter how much time we put
into grasping the scientific case as presented in your or any other person's
book; no matter how much healing is done or wonder at what we have created or
deep meditation, we ain't going nowhere near back home without the grace of god.
in order to prepare to receive that grace of god we have to look to god (love,
truth, reality) and to god alone, nowhere else.
all lesser foci, inc. scientific theories/proof, intellectual studies of the
'how' and 'why' or 'when' of ascension (and intellectual studies of anything
else), etc., etc. all equate to a distraction from god and so prevent us from
looking where we are going, and so we inevitably trip and fall.
it's simple really, and even a child can enter the kingdom of heaven, right? and
without studying the scientific proof. so why not just look to god and keep it
simple and true?
a simple story to illustrate the simple point, O ye complex one:
A man dies and goes toward heaven. Of course, St. Peter meets him
at the Pearly Gates.
St. Peter says, "Here's how it works. You need 100 points to make it into
heaven. You tell me all the good things you've done, and I give you a certain
number of points for each item, depending on how good it was. When you reach 100
points, you can get in."
"Okay," the man says, "I was married to the same woman for 50 years and never
cheated on her, even in my heart."
"That's wonderful," says St. Peter, "that's worth three points!"
"Three points?" he says. "Well, I attended church all my life and supported its
ministry with my tithe and service."
"Terrific!" says St. Peter. "That's certainly worth a point."
"One point? I started a soup kitchen in my city and worked in a shelter for
homeless veterans."
"Fantastic, that's good for two more points," he says.
"Two points!" the man cries. "At this rate, the only way I get into heaven is by
the grace of God!"
"Bingo! 100 points! Come on in!"
hint: there is a profound message and teaching in all the above, folks. may they
with eyes to see have a freakin' good look!
luv,
ron