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raconsel@...
09-17-2001, 07:16 PM
--- In asc2k@y..., Steve <steve_01@b...> wrote:

<snip>

> Force can be used to stop an aggressor, but only divine force. If a solider
> reacts to hatred with more hatred, and fire with more fire, then more lives
> are lost through ignorance. As a result less souls get the chance to seek
> and ascend to the truth while in this embodiment. If, however, a solider
> carries in his heart his awakened Divine nature, through having sought
> truth and what is divine, and only ever responds to the aggressor from that
> place of truth, not allowing the gravity of the situation to pull him in to
> being on an imagined side, then force does not create more Karma. And
> instead prevents and ends conflict. But such an army of light has Yet to
> fully appear in this world.


well that was enlightening steve. thankyou for reminding me of the truth.

so are you saying that to even think about the present terrorism alert and all
that it involves is to create more karma and so more illusion and so more
suffering?

ron

Tiffani Boswell
09-27-2001, 11:25 AM
Hi guys, i am wayyy behind on posts and slowly catching up....

i went to a lecture this weekend and Rupert Sheldrake was mentioned and his
experiments with the collective unconscious (he didn't call it that...) and
the apes that washed the sweet potatoes and it spread to the other islands,
and the interesting mouse experiments that at first seemed to prove genetic
pass down of information and then when repeated miles away with different
mice the mice just "knew" what to do...have we ever discussed this and what
is your take on it and his research if not?


thanks tiffani
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> --- In asc2k@y..., Steve <steve_01@b...> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Force can be used to stop an aggressor, but only divine force. If a
solider
> > reacts to hatred with more hatred, and fire with more fire, then more
lives
> > are lost through ignorance. As a result less souls get the chance to
seek
> > and ascend to the truth while in this embodiment. If, however, a solider
> > carries in his heart his awakened Divine nature, through having sought
> > truth and what is divine, and only ever responds to the aggressor from
that
> > place of truth, not allowing the gravity of the situation to pull him in
to
> > being on an imagined side, then force does not create more Karma. And
> > instead prevents and ends conflict. But such an army of light has Yet to
> > fully appear in this world.
>
>
> well that was enlightening steve. thankyou for reminding me of the truth.
>
> so are you saying that to even think about the present terrorism alert and
all that it involves is to create more karma and so more illusion and so
more suffering?
>
> ron
>
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Jeremy Weiland
10-02-2001, 10:49 AM
Hey Tiffani!

> i went to a lecture this weekend and Rupert
> Sheldrake was mentioned and his
> experiments with the collective unconscious (he
> didn't call it that...) and
> the apes that washed the sweet potatoes and it
> spread to the other islands,
> and the interesting mouse experiments that at first
> seemed to prove genetic
> pass down of information and then when repeated
> miles away with different
> mice the mice just "knew" what to do...have we ever
> discussed this and what
> is your take on it and his research if not?

Sounds like in CIII with the cheek cells that reacted
to the person being shocked while in a different room.
Might wanna check out first few chapters of CIII.

Jeremy

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