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amstelland420@...
12-16-2000, 01:57 PM
dear reader,
i have arrived at a conclusion. that is....think for yourself, and
the facts will present themselves accordingly. disregard the empty
delusion of the masses and think for yourself. life is a learning
experience. death is nothing to fear and in fact is the ultimate
learning experience...a liberation of sorts...a beginning. the
biggest lie is the easiest to beleive...so look for what is most
widely accepted, and know it for what it is. a lie. think for
yourself.

Jeremy''s mail
12-16-2000, 02:34 PM
ok....
so...
why do you think this?

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please share.

looking forward to it,
jeremy

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date: saturday, december 16, 2000 4:57 pm
subject: [asc2k] intuition


>dear reader,
> i have arrived at a conclusion. that is....think for yourself, and
>the facts will present themselves accordingly. disregard the empty
>delusion of the masses and think for yourself. life is a learning
>experience. death is nothing to fear and in fact is the ultimate
>learning experience...a liberation of sorts...a beginning. the
>biggest lie is the easiest to beleive...so look for what is most
>widely accepted, and know it for what it is. a lie. think for
>yourself.
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amstelland420@...
12-16-2000, 02:43 PM
my previous message has little to do with the information
presented on the ascension website. i merely posted it in an effort
to assuage fear. fear is the primary motivator of the animal
constituent of the human experience. fear of death is the primary
motivator behind modern religious beleif-systems. religious beleif is
the primary motivator for violence and subduction of the will. i will
quote from frank herbert..."fear is the mind-killer...fear is the
little death..." this existance that we are all experiencing is both
temporary and illusory. i find that a large portion of the e-mails
and submissions on this e-group...are concerned predominantly with
the facts behind the epiphany presented by the ascension2k website.
the facts are not as important as the reality suggested by them. do
not depend on facts...as all facts are subjective and relative.
considering that anyone who has "made it" on to this mailing list
probably feels the same way i do...this is most likely being met with
agreeable nods...please extend what you know to people that don't. as
hard as it is to interest people in what facts are presented, it is
harder to present them with an entirely new reality. therefore these
facts have merit as a tool to educate and to produce, from within, a
new paradigm and understanding. now i'm not saying go all out jesuit
style and force conformity or anything, but attempt to educate. i'm
sure everyone in this forum knows at least one person who is open
minded enough to at least ponder the synchronicity displayed by the
facts offered at asc2k. introduce them. i feel like i have been
lucky. for the larger portion of my life i have been more than mildly
obsessed with all the anomalies that effect mankind. only recently
has all of this anomalous information begun to take a clear and
coherent form. as we journey towards the completion of this puzzle, i
feel it is necessary to sprinkle the seeds of insight among those who
are willing to learn. the true gift of knowledge is that it can be
shared. so give the gift...it's ****in christmas time anyway.....ho
ho ho

Jeremy''s mail
12-16-2000, 03:18 PM
well, santa, yes and no. we're concerned with facts, certainly, as it is
nice when verifiable proof of you view of reality is available. but we are
most certainly also concerned with the underlying reality, and in my humble
opinion this is talked about a lot. sure, it's obvious that there's a lot
of different opinions about what that is, and david's work can, to some
seekers, sometimes seem overly scientific. but there is a synthesizing of
ideas presented by his overall views that forms that new paradigm that you
are looking for - and it includes things that you're interested in as well
as not interested in. by all means, post freely about that which you are
interested, but we're into conversation - not just your opinions, but why
you feel that way. then we can get a real dialogue started.
word,
jeremy
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date: saturday, december 16, 2000 5:43 pm
subject: [asc2k] intuition


> my previous message has little to do with the information
>presented on the ascension website. i merely posted it in an effort
>to assuage fear. fear is the primary motivator of the animal
>constituent of the human experience. fear of death is the primary
>motivator behind modern religious beleif-systems. religious beleif is
>the primary motivator for violence and subduction of the will. i will
>quote from frank herbert..."fear is the mind-killer...fear is the
>little death..." this existance that we are all experiencing is both
>temporary and illusory. i find that a large portion of the e-mails
>and submissions on this e-group...are concerned predominantly with
>the facts behind the epiphany presented by the ascension2k website.
>the facts are not as important as the reality suggested by them. do
>not depend on facts...as all facts are subjective and relative.
>considering that anyone who has "made it" on to this mailing list
>probably feels the same way i do...this is most likely being met with
>agreeable nods...please extend what you know to people that don't. as
>hard as it is to interest people in what facts are presented, it is
>harder to present them with an entirely new reality. therefore these
>facts have merit as a tool to educate and to produce, from within, a
>new paradigm and understanding. now i'm not saying go all out jesuit
>style and force conformity or anything, but attempt to educate. i'm
>sure everyone in this forum knows at least one person who is open
>minded enough to at least ponder the synchronicity displayed by the
>facts offered at asc2k. introduce them. i feel like i have been
>lucky. for the larger portion of my life i have been more than mildly
>obsessed with all the anomalies that effect mankind. only recently
>has all of this anomalous information begun to take a clear and
>coherent form. as we journey towards the completion of this puzzle, i
>feel it is necessary to sprinkle the seeds of insight among those who
>are willing to learn. the true gift of knowledge is that it can be
>shared. so give the gift...it's ****in christmas time anyway.....ho
>ho ho
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>to unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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