Jason, Dave, et al and Darkness

[gypsy daniels]

jason wharton wrote:

"not all paths are the same. every path here in the crucible has a
destination and they are not the same. it is harvest time and the dark side
is pulling out all the stops and raging to get in its last digs for
everything it has power to impact. i don't say this to cause fear. i say
this to raise awareness and invite people to reconsider if their higher self
would have them to.

perhaps people think i'm nuts for being here as a religious lds guy, but the
more i learn about the ra material the more parallels i see to my own faith.
of course it is true i am trying to see where all we have a common
foundation so i could be reading a lot in... but, i'm really enjoying my
experience with you all and i welcome your feedback on my conclusions if
they seem errant."

g.d. writes:

so far, i find you to be spot-on and very helpful to me. this entire
conversation re: darkness, negativity, etc. has been very helpul to me too.

what is a religious lds guy exactly? does the "l" stand for left? i have been
undergoing a "darkness" of sorts for the past couple of years that i feel has
been crucial to my development, but has also not been very pleasant. your
comments have helped tremendously. as has the following quote from
dave/darktemplarssj:

"i know it's a little hard to accept but it is a necesary evil,
and the more clearly we see the negative and don't just focus on sto
concept the clearer our positive polarity is honed. seeing evil
good is resolved to redouble its efforts. it is a self feeding
cycle and a brilliant design for a universe."

g.d. writes:
i have been following everyone's comments, and appreciate them all.

thanks to all!

g.d.









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[NEIL HADDON]

gypsydaniels appreciated,

"...the more clearly we see the negative and don't just focus on sto
concept the clearer our positive polarity is honed."

in book one, session 5, ra says:
"
to begin to master the concept of mental disciplines it is necessary to examine
the self. the polarity of your dimension must be internalized. where you find
patience within your mind you must consciously find the corresponding impatience
and vice versa. each thought a being has, has in its turn an antithesis. the
disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things of
which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and
then balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal. the
mind contains all things. therefore, you must discover this completeness within
yourself.

the second mental discipline is acceptance of the completeness within your
consciousness. "



i believe ra is telling us here to see all, both sides, then choose.



love.

neil


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[Bob Cannon]

neil wrote: "i believe ra is telling us here to see all, both sides, then
choose."



me: i hope i didn?t interpret your email wrong, and if i did i apologize for the
long response. i interpreted your response as saying we should find both the
positive and negative traits in ourselves, and then choose the one or the other.
i am not so sure ra is telling us to choose the negative or the positive. i will
try to explain what i am thinking, but please bare with me this is the first
time responding to am email on this group, or any group for that matter. : )



ra wrote: ?the polarity of your dimension must be internalized.?



me: to me this means we have to internalize the third dimension. if i am not
mistaken the third dimension is based on duality. every action has an opposite
reaction, that type of thing.



ra wrote: ?where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find
the corresponding impatience and vice versa. each thought a being has, has in
its turn an antithesis.?



me: i can?t tell you how many times i try to focus on what i consider to be a
sto feeling like patience, and seem to be doing fairly well for a couple of
days. only to find myself hit in the face with a bought of impatience. it?s as
if my overactive desire to be patient caused a need for a correction.



ra wrote: ?the disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both
those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove
within yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge
with its equal. the mind contains all things. therefore, you must discover this
completeness within yourself.
?



me: i think the conclusion is that there is a fine line between what we would
consider a positive trait and a negative trait. when you stay at that line you
are balanced and can then choose sto or sts with a disciplined mind. also if we
can see the negative in ourselves and learn to love that side. then perhaps we
can find it easer to love the negative in others.



what do you think?



warm regard,

bob



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[Stephen Tyman]

bob wrote: "i think the conclusion is that there is a fine line between what
we would consider a positive trait and a negative trait. when you stay at
that line you are balanced and can then choose sto or sts with a disciplined
mind. also if we can see the negative in ourselves and learn to love that
side. then perhaps we can find it easer to love the negative in others."

i think you have it precisely, bob. well said. lo/li stephen

[NEIL HADDON]

in the first of what i'm sure it will be many
posts, bob wrote:
" i hope i didn't interpret your email wrong,.."

i don't think so, bob, i beleieve we are saying
basically the same thing, but getting there a
different way, maybe.

elsewhere ra points out that we must each *find*
(our belief in) the law of one for ourselves - it
is not simply to be followed because someone told
us to - as is the case with most organised
'religions'. we should search within ourselves,
find what resonates, choose what we accept.

ignoring the impatience within ourselves,
pretending it doesn't exist, 'hoping it might go
away' is not the answer. we have to look these
negative/dark aspects of our being suarely in the
face, and recognise they are part of the whole.
then, since 3rd density is the density of choice,
we choose which aspect to prefer - *knowing, now,
the strength/power/nature of the other side*.

as you instance, bob, we try to follow a path ok
for a few days, then all of a sudden find we've
slipped into the undesirable habit again. i
believe facing our challenges openly and honestly
within ourselves ( it's no-one else's business) is
the way to overcome them. and there's no need to
beat ourselves up about a 'lapse' or 'hiccup', see
it as a learning experience/opportunity.

there is no 'good' or 'bad', they are just degrees
on the same scale. the important thing is, as you
say, to make a disciplined, positve choice, then,
" if we can see the negative in ourselves and
learn to love[/accept:n] that side. then perhaps
we can find it easer to love[/accept:n] the
negative in others.

thanks for your help, bob.

love.
neil