The negative path ascenders

[Mike Papa]

as i understand it choice of the negative path is limited to no more
than the 5th density. so this means that negative path entities
function not only in 3rd but the 4th and 5th density as well. which
means they can ascend to the 4th density along with the positive
group. (i'd like to know why they are limited to the 5th density
ceiling also) so what really changes if we essentially have the
same cast of characters we have been subjected to here in 3d
operating, exploiting sucking the life out of everything in a
different density? and what seperates or defines the negative path
not sts vs sto. just what is the negative choice? i think that i am
missing something because i am using an over simplistic good vs evil
to label the negative path and this may not be sufficient to define
what it really is and the implications as it exists in the one.

mike

[Chris Hamilton]

from: "mike papa" <mikepapa33@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=tofbx7i1bmgcrpl2rg3itje9zy1btvpi8yks19 _7c7j2xbdecqhv-dlq3op9sa0audtyeidtqfi8k9pl24a)>

so what really changes if we essentially have the
> same cast of characters we have been subjected to here in 3d
> operating, exploiting sucking the life out of everything in a
> different density?

hi mike, chris here. when 3d humans ascend to 4d status, the positive only
will occupy 4d earth. negative 4d will occupy some other place. now, as ra
says, 4d still finds the necessity for war, so i imagine the positives will
be warring the negatives. however, because 4d is the density of love, there
should be a certain amount of attrition from the negative entities as some
learn to love and change polarity.the confederation itself is performing
this little 'dance' as delicately as possible witihin 3rd, 4th, and 5th
densities:)

mike: and what seperates or defines the negative path
> not sts vs sto. just what is the negative choice?

chris: "negative" by ra's definition is 95% negative vibration to ascend to
4th density negative. a positive entity, on the other hand, only needs 51%
positive vibration in order to bump up a notch. i do not believe any
percentage was given for 5th density, but someone else may know that.

[darktemplarssj]

so what really changes if we essentially have the
> same cast of characters we have been subjected to here in 3d
> operating, exploiting sucking the life out of everything in a
> different density? and what seperates or defines the negative
path
> not sts vs sto. just what is the negative choice? i think that i
am
> missing something because i am using an over simplistic good vs
evil
> to label the negative path and this may not be sufficient to
define
> what it really is and the implications as it exists in the one.
>
> mike

as knowledge of sts and sto becomes greater and as you understand
the concept better it becomes much more subtle. it is a radical
redefinition of good and evil. no more are these terms "good"
and "evil" subjective, but they now have a solid physical base.
when i first understood it i was shocked by the simplicity of the
truth. it was a clearer definition than thousands of years of earth
philosophers had realized(or it seems, i may be wrong).

anyways, both paths are complicated and eventually merge into the
one, but while we are here it is necessary to have both polairities,
so that understanding/work can be done. that is the essence of
dualism.

the negative entity would be one who i best understand to be what
we have called evil in the past. those who would pratice voodoo
arts to draw deamons(most likely 4th sts) to their command(ra speaks
how higher negative 3rd d entities near 99% polarized can command
4th d negative ones). those who pratice satinism and the other
black arts and are looking, with all their might for power, over
others. power over others generates energy and is necessary for
maintenance of the negative path because the negative energies are
such that they are constantly bleeding away from the owner. causing
suffering to others and culling that energy for the self is the
essence of sts.

i know it's a little hard to accept but it is a necesary evil,
and the more clearly we see the negative and don't just focus on sto
concept the clearer our positive polarity is honed. seeing evil
good is resolved to redouble its efforts. it is a self feeding
cycle and a brilliant design for a universe.
good journey
-dave

[Jason Wharton]

darktemplarssj:
as knowledge of sts and sto becomes greater and as you understand
the concept better it becomes much more subtle. it is a radical
redefinition of good and evil. no more are these terms "good"
and "evil" subjective, but they now have a solid physical base.
when i first understood it i was shocked by the simplicity of the
truth. it was a clearer definition than thousands of years of earth
philosophers had realized(or it seems, i may be wrong).

jason: i've been struggling to gain clarity on this very topic for some
time. for me the sto and sts labels are just as relativistic and slippery as
the "good" and "evil" labels are. i think they add a fresh and much needed
lens to look at good and evil through and i totally agree the wider
perspective the law of one gives is way far more palatable than a person's
eternal welfare being judged by how well they obeyed the pope or some other
person.

every day of my life there is a battle that takes place inside of me. there
are many things i do out of both selfish and unselfish motivations.
ultimately, behind every act i even think is motivated by sto i can clearly
see how it resolves back to a sts payoff. also, you pointed out how those
consciously pressing onto the sts path actually provide a context for
polarity to flourish, and as such, this is a great sto role to fulfill.

i'm getting more and more all the time that as long as stuff is in the
brains and coming from the mind it always ties you into polarity. there just
seems to be a good and evil or sto and sts side of every piece of logic you
can come up with. when we are in our heads, we are in dead center polarity
full force. 51% sto may seem easy by numbers but i'm of the opinion getting
out of dead center is pretty remarkable. i'm very curious about what
constitutes your percentage and if there was a way i could examine myself.

there's a place to be in that escapes the mind. athletes call it the "zone".
i've experienced it in many other things too. it's when your head is totally
out of the game. living from the heart is the edge that can pull us to a
genuine sto polarity. i find it quite difficult to consistently stay in that
zone. i have no idea whether or not i am harvest material. who's the judge?

regards,
jason wharton

[GenoNess1@...]

in a message dated 8/24/2004 5:30:20 am pacific daylight time,
jwharton@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=g8cdg0qdk2cqjilcvhjniuepy11vf2tk_uaiz_ 6cog_anq_o0mtwehikyp4mgsz94rl9cthdfqh5s74q-q) writes:
i'm very curious about what
constitutes your percentage and if there was a way i could examine myself.



try muscle testing. you'll probably get an answer you like. love, kyle!


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[bitsmart]

--- darktemplarssj <whited4@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=g5llyl2yxt3fscnpntmo8tsoekfhs49mq4kzru fn6uhczfum_cp8wiqlcrxutuw1bagvayw6)> wrote:
> i know it's a little hard to accept but it is a
> necesary evil,
> and the more clearly we see the negative and don't
> just focus on sto
> concept the clearer our positive polarity is honed.
> seeing evil
> good is resolved to redouble its efforts. it is a
> self feeding
> cycle and a brilliant design for a universe.
> good journey
> -dave

well said dave. there's a difference between seeing
the negative and focusing on or even obsessing about
it. knowledge and awareness of both sts and sto
enables you to discern, be more informed, and choose
more wisely.

-drew

[Michael Papa]

well said jason these are my struggles also...this second dream mentioned
below makes me question whether i am ascension material even though i have
been told not to worry about it. i don't know if this is related but as i
was meditating asking for some guidence last night i had 2 dreams one was
about the california lottery which, in my dream, will hit tonight wed the
24th. for 79 million dollars...and yes i saw the numbers and no i cannot
remember most of them. all i know is one ticket hit in some backwoods
california border town that sounds like or is near idaho...we'll see
tonight. the second dream was a full on nightmare that i will relay here
for anyone to help me with because it freaked me out. i have been pondering
the rational for the negative path asking my higher self for some
answers...that brought on this horror of a dream i had:

a dungeon torture chamber it really did look like hell (classic hell)

there were female creatures, part human part something else being tortured
and killed in this place. they were screaming and wailing. the features of
these females was human with both male and female organs. all these sexual
parts were either atrophied or non functional. one had 2 atrophied male
organs on either side of a non functional female organ...

one of the females that was hung up was able to kick and severely injure the
torturer (a demon) there were about 5 or 6 other victims on the floor
screaming and freaking out...

my perception of these events seemed to go from being one of them (on the
floor) to a third party view...like i was watching a tv or movie.

it was very gory..there was blood and guts everywhere. i don't want to go
into too much detail here but just turn your gore meter up to 10 and you
have and idea how horrific it was. they were being maimed decapticated and
hung on hooks. there was only one demon/tormentor there that would shape
shift into another form. one moment he was a round very large lipped big
eyed almost cartoonis yellowish looking thing with a lower body of a beast
with long finger nails. he was pushing some sort of a high tech cauldron
around then he shape shifted into a black headed bat with a very muscular
humanoid body. sharp teeth and very mean looking thing that seemed to do
the real dirty work...then he looked directly at me and said (bat head
speaking here)

..."all these girls could be wrong....no i am wrong"

i guess this is telling me in no uncertain terms that the negative path is
wrong..it was frightful and in color...i woke up from this dream pretty
shaken...any thoughts?

>there's a place to be in that escapes the mind. athletes call it the
>"zone".
>i've experienced it in many other things too. it's when your head is
>totally
>out of the game. living from the heart is the edge that can pull us to a
>genuine sto polarity. i find it quite difficult to consistently stay in
>that
>zone. i have no idea whether or not i am harvest material. who's the judge?
>
>regards,
>jason wharton
>
>

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[Jason Wharton]

wow, i thought i had some scary nightmares!

i too very recently had a dream where i was in kind of a first person
computer game (i don't play them in real life). although, it was very real.
i cannot describe the weapons used but they were energy based, kind of like
the evil emperor trying to destroy luke skywalker at the end of return of
the jedi. i too shifted from being a person directly involved and then as a
3rd party observer. one interesting part among the gore was i was just
defeating an opponent in first person and then i shifted to observer mode as
the nearly defeated person lunged their head up into the crotch of the other
and bit his scrotum.

i don't know if it is possible to make any sense out of such things. one
thing i do feel to suggest is that you pay attention to colors (as you
obviously did). i do believe dreams are actually real in their own reality
frame. some reality somewhere actually has these things happening and the
best way our current consciousness can relate them to us is why things
perhaps seem so absurd.

i think it would be really helpful to record on paper your dreams each
morning and by doing so you can learn the vocabulary of them. i did this
for a while before life got to crazy again to continue the practice and i
was starting to make a lot more sense out of my dreams. they are a very
effective way to integrate the parts of us that reside in other realities,
that i have no doubt of.

it seems a trend that most psychic people first get in touch with their
dream world and from there they are able to integrate keen perception into
that and other realities. for that is all they are doing, seeing things we
are not disciplined enough to see ourselves.

regards,
jason wharton

[Beverly Thompson]

dear asc2k friends:

jason wrote: "i have been pondering the rational for the negative path asking
my higher self for some answers...that brought on this horror of a dream i
had..."

bev: we are all in the process of clearing our distortions/karma from this and
past lives, and all those dark facets of ourselves are coming out of the closet
to be healed and released. since we are all one, we have all fed into the
collective thoughtform of these fearful images. all that we fear and call evil,
satan or the devil, all of those things that we have fed energy to and have
allowed to affect or control us throughout our many incarnations, are really
only our interpretation of the negative energy that we have created.

this collective thoughtform takes on monstrous proportions (pun intended) and
when it is tapped into by an individual, it seems overwhelming, to say the
least. so how is this collective thoughtform healed and released? by brave
lightwarriors/wanderers who volunteer for the job of doing the work in
time/space and facing these energies and then transmuting them into light. the
negative thought forms of the collective consciousness of humanity did not come
from the creator; it is humanity's miscreations alone that have resulted in the
dire circumstances we have undergone in the past and are now experiencing on our
planet.

we are doing tremendous magical workings in order to fulfil our "missions" of
clearing our individual and collective karma by assisting the earth at this
critical time to heal her shadow side and to return to harmony in order to
rectify all the devastating damage humanity has wrought down through the ages.
you, jason and the rest of you/me on this list, have the ability and the tools
to help create this miracle. time, however, is of the essence, and this task
must be initiated and accomplished soon if there is to be a decrease or
cessation of the cataclysmic events that are now occurring all over the world.

my dear, dear friends, let's get to work!!!

healing love,
bev

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[Chris Hamilton]

from: "michael papa" <mikepapa33@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=lwvwzvjed5ozlcnftierjmwoo5fqjf8qnmnvmn xctxvvo-1gdazrmvr2tstfiswefnpvgaulyoqaaohhnw)>

> the rational for the negative path asking my higher self for some
> answers...that brought on this horror of a dream i had:

> a dungeon torture chamber it really did look like hell (classic hell)
> there were female creatures, part human part something else being tortured
and killed in this place. they were screaming and wailing. the features of
these females was human with both male and female organs. all these sexual
parts were either atrophied or non functional. > one of the females that
was hung up was able to kick and severely injure the > torturer (a demon)
there were about 5 or 6 other victims on the floor screaming and freaking
out...

i guess this is telling me in no uncertain terms that the negative path is
> wrong..it was frightful and in color...i woke up from this dream pretty
> shaken...any thoughts?
>
hello mike,
i have done some dream interp here in the past thanks to david's excellent
instructions listed in the files section. first, what you are seeing is a
battle more than likely within you...your sensitive side, intuitive side,
seems to be severely damaged and is fighting back with everything you've
got. perhaps you have had someone at work (maybe a woman but not
necessarily), restrict your creative drive and make you feel neutered? or,
this can be occurring in your personal life somehow? whatever the situation,
it appears that you feel your feminine side, and maybe even your masculine
side, is being compromised somehow. your mind is trying to get your
attention and say, "hey! this is important, listen!". red of course, is red
ray, the procreative color, and any orange or yellow could signify power and
self-esteem issues, especially associated with some kind of sexual
frustration. any more here might compromise your privacy, so please look at
the dream again and go from there:) hugs, chris

[V]

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=ijyeromj9vvwnsm7sie3bgutc1gsr5m7tkuljn 8qr2z3kbgk1yskkj7tnknmzt7gd3giyjmpfugeujo8), genoness1@a... wrote:
> in a message dated 8/24/2004 5:30:20 am pacific daylight time,
> jwharton@j... writes:
> i'm very curious about what
> constitutes your percentage and if there was a way i could examine
myself.
>
>
>
> try muscle testing. you'll probably get an answer you like. love,
kyle!
>
>
> [non-text portions of this message have been removed]

i'm new here and i see more about this subject and other negative
concerns than i expected. i would say, don't worry so much. it
appears we aren't judged harshly between incarnations. *?*

i have only the documents 1-8, and haven't completely finished
reading yet, but where is this negative path ascender concern?

[Jason Wharton]

> jason wrote: "i have been pondering the
> rational for the negative path asking my
> higher self for some answers...that brought
> on this horror of a dream i had..."

real quick so others aren't confused. i am not the person who wrote that.
i was just responding to the person who really said this. i believe it was
michael papa. i too have had weird dreams lately but it wasn't for this
reason, at least that i recall.

regards,
jason wharton

[GenoNess1@...]

in a message dated 8/25/2004 5:56:34 am pacific daylight time,
xild@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=jqb_gqdvab2ykj-5huzqyt6qsxwqia6ycutegaolexwt8y_psbffphppdsv6fici7 n-f_hk2q6xblwqz) writes:

i'm new here and i see more about this subject and other negative
concerns than i expected. i would say, don't worry so much


i agree. worrying is just that - worry. not enjoyable if you ask me. i chose
my words carefully, 'you might get an answer you like' becasue i believe that
we create the answers we need. i think that percentage polarity composition
and all that is just confusing details. its kind of like just a by-product of
the process to me. so i dont' pay attention to it - i pay attention to how i
feel. and that is what i can control. love, kyle!


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[Gail Sherman]

i also concur with this. worry is just another form of fear and
fear will call to us those things that we are
afraid of. if we are truly born to create then we are creating
all the time wheather it is from love or fear.
this is why the powers-that-be are feeding the populace with a
steady diet of fear. they have been on
to this secret since the days of atlantis. this is the best news
ever! we just get to leave the fear behind.
we don't have to worry if we will make the shift, we will still
be ok. we don't have to worry about
conspiracies, we will be ok. we don't have to worry about death
we will be ok! we were made for love
and we just have to know it and step into it! we have but to
conciously decide to choose love and the
fear becomes powerless.

love is...
gail sherman





in a message dated 8/25/2004 5:56:34 am pacific daylight time,
xild@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=ceesjc29pga6mvewivbc1z25wtxnbfgtm4uu4n 7fykzxbxmkkwhnan080ekdy1yxzhqs5luhuytsvlvq) writes:

i'm new here and i see more about this subject and other negative
concerns than i expected. i would say, don't worry so much


i agree. worrying is just that - worry. not enjoyable if you ask me. i chose

my words carefully, 'you might get an answer you like' becasue i believe
that
we create the answers we need. i think that percentage polarity composition
and all that is just confusing details. its kind of like just a by-product
of
the process to me. so i dont' pay attention to it - i pay attention to how i

feel. and that is what i can control. love, kyle!








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[darktemplarssj]

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=cbilm28heuhhj44gszthjiqyrxcyvih0hcqfcy stdljrmy445u9csgfob77b3xqisehmdux15prf_jy-rt437g), "michael papa" <mikepapa33@h...> wrote:
>i don't know if this is related but as i
> was meditating asking for some guidence last night i had 2 dreams
the second dream was a full on nightmare that i will relay here
> for anyone to help me with because it freaked me out.

i've had a bout of disturbing dreams about 6 monthes ago then i
moved through it. what i think i can say from my experiences is
that you are moving into a phase of indigo ray activation. indigo
ray stuff is hard to find in our society and is a scary and often
violent ray to activate(also the most noticable when first doing
chakral work). indigo ray instreaming with out green instreaming
appears in things like horror movies and tortures. what should be
looked more at is balanced indigo activation with blue green yellow
and orange ray compliments. if it's scary it is probalby pure
indigo ray, but if it's wonderour it is probably more inclusive.

your mind was probably grasping at straws to get this adept's
energy. incipient indigo ray activation seems/seemed(for me) to
deal with the concept that the body is not all there is. indeed
this parallels with indigo ray sexual transfers where you begin,
( but not fully intil violet) to feel that you are energy, not the
body(as opposed to localized genital sensations of lower ray
transfers).
you might be moving through this fixation of "how much control can
physical pain exert over me". again like i said in a post before
this might make you redouble your spiritual efforts.
even though it was a little imaginative of me i first began
meditating because it was something that "no sts being could take
away in any situation", it was almost what i felt could be my only
defense. the problem is that to get to the point where you don't
feel pain/any physical sensation [in meditation] would take from 10
to 100 years of pratice. but it still gave me an initial drive,
which was a key to where i am now.

you might also notice a pressure in your forhead if your 6th chakra
is not significantly activated. it has nothing to do with
meditative experience, my father has been doing meditation for 20
years and he still gets the pressure because he hasn't "confronted"
and thought out the sts reprocussions of pure indigo ray.
if you notice this then what i have said very likely applies. it
used to happen to me when i first started, but not any more.
those are my thoughts and experiences.
good journey
-dave

[Michael Papa]

david,

thank you so much for your insight on this. it has definitely resonated with
me and what i seem to be going through. i haven't had another nasty dream
since and i do have this pressure in my forehead (lft side) from time to
time. i have been recording the times for about 3 months now. they have
subsided as of late but every now and again i get zinged by a pain over my
left eye. thank you again dave it was very very helpful.

mike papa

>you might also notice a pressure in your forhead if your 6th chakra
>is not significantly activated. it has nothing to do with
>meditative experience, my father has been doing meditation for 20
>years and he still gets the pressure because he hasn't "confronted"
>and thought out the sts reprocussions of pure indigo ray.
> if you notice this then what i have said very likely applies. it
>used to happen to me when i first started, but not any more.
> those are my thoughts and experiences.
>good journey
>-dave
>
>

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[ben leung]

michael,

i would just like to put my comment in on this. i get zinged as you call it
once in awhile. but it is not in my forhead but in the back of my head.
specifically i believe it is on the rear, left base of my skull. why is it that
this happens? does it have to do with the 6th chakra as dave put it.

good journey to all,
benjamin

michael papa <mikepapa33@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=ul9golwl0birzqmh9hmkkc9g0yy3zx-cwpdwmwbwaccg9t7-f9gz0wluc9zxduza3gu9lawvdnr3dfxgirqvk_u)> wrote:
david,

thank you so much for your insight on this. it has definitely resonated with
me and what i seem to be going through. i haven't had another nasty dream
since and i do have this pressure in my forehead (lft side) from time to
time. i have been recording the times for about 3 months now. they have
subsided as of late but every now and again i get zinged by a pain over my
left eye. thank you again dave it was very very helpful.

mike papa

>you might also notice a pressure in your forhead if your 6th chakra
>is not significantly activated. it has nothing to do with
>meditative experience, my father has been doing meditation for 20
>years and he still gets the pressure because he hasn't "confronted"
>and thought out the sts reprocussions of pure indigo ray.
> if you notice this then what i have said very likely applies. it
>used to happen to me when i first started, but not any more.
> those are my thoughts and experiences.
>good journey
>-dave

[Jack Sweeney]

hi:

have you all considered the anal lock that is part of
yoga? this helps relieve pressure from headaches.

there may be a few other acupoints from tcm to relieve
head pain, there are definitely acupoints for
migraines.

in light, jack

--- michael papa <mikepapa33@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=1u-b3pt37dpsejwhp_ousid2xpqabsmprrv-2dnlg2ihnohlketygrisqsykfgknbbikrkxkc5_dkzwvvg)> wrote:

> david,
>
> thank you so much for your insight on this. it has
> definitely resonated with
> me and what i seem to be going through. i haven't
> had another nasty dream
> since and i do have this pressure in my forehead
> (lft side) from time to
> time. i have been recording the times for about 3
> months now. they have
> subsided as of late but every now and again i get
> zinged by a pain over my
> left eye. thank you again dave it was very very
> helpful.
>
> mike papa
>
> >you might also notice a pressure in your forhead if
> your 6th chakra
> >is not significantly activated. it has nothing to
> do with
> >meditative experience, my father has been doing
> meditation for 20
> >years and he still gets the pressure because he
> hasn't "confronted"
> >and thought out the sts reprocussions of pure
> indigo ray.
> > if you notice this then what i have said very
> likely applies. it
> >used to happen to me when i first started, but not
> any more.
> > those are my thoughts and experiences.
> >good journey
> >-dave
> >
> >
>
>
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[darktemplarssj]

--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=3vvb0hlosy2tpwascyhkq9lw2xacl9nyirfnma qzo8t5dllbwb9qsjlcrvyrjhmxsumoig7ol-rbd33gj41a), ben leung <theonenyl@y...> wrote:
> michael,
>
> i would just like to put my comment in on this. i get zinged as
you call it once in awhile. but it is not in my forhead but in the
back of my head. specifically i believe it is on the rear, left
base of my skull. why is it that this happens? does it have to do
with the 6th chakra as dave put it.
>
> good journey to all,
> benjamin
>

from my studies it seems that the occipital ridge is the point of
the body/etheric body junction from which greed eminates. the
source of most, if not all sts behavior. though this is a rather
unsubstantiated claim it might provide a clue to what is harrowing
you. it probably means that you are moving into a highly polarized
sto frequency and that it is trying to pull you back. maybe you are
building more dna strands and this juncture is reaching a point of
uselessness.
just some thoughts. if you want to know more email me at
whited4@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=qbb-ollvcg166w869f_bjetsvhdjs44kpwksbmtqkpb2sj2h3leqeo-bqpesmozhxwqklq9i)
good journey
-dave

[lisswest@...>]

ben leung <theonenyl@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=hwqky-gxarsztruzadjxmoltlgikjc1-o6n_rxhtu38vjfisz-lzy5dfjfhwtkemiktatncfpbmm)> wrote:


hi benjamin,

the sixth chakra travels in a diagonal direction from your third eye position in
the middle of your forhead through to the back and base of your skull. this
energy centre comes from the petruitary gland situated at the top of your spinal
columm and joins the spinal chord to the base of the brain stem. this is the
region of the brain taht is usually hardlly used except when during meditation,
mediumship, dowsing or healing. the fact that you are experiencing some pain in
this area could be because you've been trying to use your psychic powers too
much and have strained your petruitary somewhat. give it a rest for a little
while and it will stop aching. quite often at the beginning of use of the mind
powers we get overtired. this is because thiese areas have never been used like
this before and just like muscles newly exercised the third eye can get over
worked and strained. give it a rest for a week or so and then resume but for
only half an hour or so.



all the best!!



peace and happiness, liss


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