T h e E m e r a l d T a b l e t s

[michelleberb]

From Chris: I have read these texts [Emerald Tablets of Thoth] before and know
that there is no archaeological proof for them. Use your own discernment, as
there is only the word of "Doreal" for their authenticity. It is, however, very
entertaining and has some positive statements:) And Doreal makes money off of
every book 'he' sells :) I do not believe David endorses the Emerald Tablets,
although I haven't spoken to David specifically, but we all know that David is
big on scientific corroboration-this is what he is trying to do here is to bring
science together with metaphysics, afterall:) But, in the spirit of open
communication, I release this post. Chris

I have found a wealth of knowledge here thought I would share it
with all of you.

The history of the tablets translated in the following pages is
strange and beyond the belief of modern scientists.
http://www.chapeltibet.cnchost.com/ct/Tablets.html

[gypsy daniels]

Hi All,

If I am off-base, please correct me. I have read Hermes Trismegistus for a
directed reading course, as a part of my master's program.

Scholars have shown this author to be post-Christian. Though the author claims
to be Egyptian.

Any thoughts?

Sincerely,
G.D.

michelleberb <michelleberb@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=TTBs2CFrQw5z14hdXHhyOxLRF9Wbb4TUwXCrnU 9TN7Ybo5_uDVXcTZ1uprICBmE7vnIlgBrQDXxSLE6iUWT3Jw)> wrote:
From Chris: I have read these texts [Emerald Tablets of Thoth] before and know
that there is no archaeological proof for them. Use your own discernment, as
there is only the word of "Doreal" for their authenticity. It is, however, very
entertaining and has some positive statements:) And Doreal makes money off of
every book 'he' sells :) I do not believe David endorses the Emerald Tablets,
although I haven't spoken to David specifically, but we all know that David is
big on scientific corroboration-this is what he is trying to do here is to bring
science together with metaphysics, afterall:) But, in the spirit of open
communication, I release this post. Chris

I have found a wealth of knowledge here thought I would share it
with all of you.

The history of the tablets translated in the following pages is
strange and beyond the belief of modern scientists.
http://www.chapeltibet.cnchost.com/ct/Tablets.html



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[Chris Hamilton]

> If I am off-base, please correct me. I have read Hermes Trismegistus for
a directed reading course, as a part of my master's program.>
> Scholars have shown this author to be post-Christian. Though the author
claims to be Egyptian. Any thoughts? Sincerely, G.D.

Hi Gypsy,

I will try to give my limited knowledge of Trimegistus and maybe someone
else knows more. There are actual writings attributed to this dude. He was
very knowledgeable in alchemy, astrology, and magic and the writings are
assumed 1st century, give or take some time. Now, the mythological side of
this name is associated with the Greek name for the Egyptian god Thoth, so
we can see where confusion can come in. In Islam, he was known as Hirmis,
Harmas, Harmis or Hurmus. Here we can see the lingusitic similarity to
Hermes, also associated with Mercury, our winged messenger of communication.
As often happens in history, our myths reflect more truths hidden, so I
always pay attention to mythology and how the different cultures
incorporated their deities, the linguistic similarities in the names, etc.
As an example, Ra tells of a pharoah, Ammon, who wanted to have his name
more god-like and chose Aten instead. Ra then names the pharoah Ihknaten,
which there is actually a pharoah in history named Ahkenaten who was called
Ammon-Re, I think. The variation of Ahkenaten is...Ihknaten. Interesting
stuff :)Chris

[Stephen Tyman]

Yes, Chris and Gypsy. Further to the point of the identity of the one called
Trismegistos (the thrice-great): This, like Dionysius the Areopogite (the
pseudo-Dionysius) was a pseudonym. Trismegistos is sometimes thought to be not
one but a variety of writers of the gnostic period communicating loosely related
themes and practices both of pagan and early Christian inspiration. If there
was some spine of oral tradition from which this material depends, it is of
course lost to us now. In any case, the connection with an actual Thoth is
fairly tenuous. Does that correspond to what you understand? Lo/Li Stephen

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[Lesley Schultz]

Dear Chris and Gypsy:

--- Chris Hamilton <chris.hamilton2@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=2friZpR6rc2XmxDDpHp44IaJYcOUU6Qgt2jsn9 2hVocXxobJSyP0wkgckod03IPFeOU-AcTY5_LFbSQ700YVKIJNyc8p)>
snip>> As an example, Ra tells of a pharoah, Ammon,
who wanted to have his name more god-like and chose
Aten instead. Ra then names the pharoah Ihknaten,
which there is actually a pharoah in history named
Ahkenaten who was called Ammon-Re, I think. The
variation of Ahkenaten is...Ihknaten. Interesting
stuff :)Chris

LS: Yes, quite interesting stuff. Akenaten or
Ikhanaten was originally named Amenhotep IV. He was a
strange looking fellow, there's some evidence that his
powerful father [a warrior-king] was ashamed of him,
for he was weak and rather feminine-looking. It's been
suggested that he sufferend from some kind of
endocrine disorder called Marphan's Syndrome or
Froelich's Syndrome, but it's unlikely that we will
ever know for sure. His mummy was believed to have
been found some 70 or 80 years ago, but it was in
terrible shape and was inadvertantly destroyed. The
pictures protrayed him as having very elongated hands,
feet and head, very full hips, thighs and backside,
and a bosum. One would wonder if such a person could
marry and father a child, but apparently he did.

Akhenaten was married to the beautiful queen
Nefertiti, whose beauty was immortalized through a
bust sculpture that now resides in the Berlin Museum.
They had several daughters, but no sons. I think it
was one of these daughters, Smenkhare, that was
married to Tutankhamun [yeah, King Tut], who became
king when the priests of Amun-Ra and the courtiers
took over after Akhenaten died. Smenkhare wound up
having to marry King Tut's grand vizir, whose name was
Ei [which she didn't want to do, because he was a
commoner, much older, and a sleazy character who just
wanted to control the country]. The monarchy of the
Eighteenth Dynasty was in a shambles after this, and I
think the next great king was Horemheb, but you folks
probably don't care about that.

It's been speculated that it was the apparent insanity
of Akhenaten and his one God, the Aten, was what
caused the collapse of the Eighteenth Dynasty, which
included such kings as Thutmose, Hapshetsut and
Amenhotep III, but this is probably nonesense. Egypt
remained staunchly polytheist in spite of Akhenaten
and his court being monotheist and moving the court to
Amarna, and would stay that way until the coming of
the prophet, Mohammad.

For what it's worth, I think that Akhenaten really did
come in contact with those of Ra, and did have a
powerful and wonderful vision of the ONE. However, he
still clung to the notion that only the Pharoah and
his family would rise to the level of the ONE. True
equality and all-is-oneness was still far from
Akhenaten's intentions. In some ways, the religion he
started was more rigidly heirarchical than any of the
cults of Isis, Thoth, Osiris, Horus et al. But,
nobody said any religion was perfect.

Blessings & peace,
~lesley





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[gypsy daniels]

Hi Lesley,

You obviously know so much more than I. I would like to discuss this further.

Sincerely,
G.D.

Lesley Schultz <msthoth@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=1zBTFrbeBfBxJ07f4xe2UTneADysVbdarrhrSp 9Odd-tpH6aVSgV5yKnz3f-jhxZI1_tjK-W1gU)> wrote:
Dear Chris and Gypsy:

--- Chris Hamilton <chris.hamilton2@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=PXj7K6r06eQ-uCEgcefyr7tnt6932ugujsfoiNAciAGCpbwHgGtKz7067JbV-kwrkVjMT1UcUcYkqHRteYIMsrT4VQ)>
snip>> As an example, Ra tells of a pharoah, Ammon,
who wanted to have his name more god-like and chose
Aten instead. Ra then names the pharoah Ihknaten,
which there is actually a pharoah in history named
Ahkenaten who was called Ammon-Re, I think. The
variation of Ahkenaten is...Ihknaten. Interesting
stuff :)Chris

LS: Yes, quite interesting stuff. Akenaten or
Ikhanaten was originally named Amenhotep IV. He was a
strange looking fellow, there's some evidence that his
powerful father [a warrior-king] was ashamed of him,
for he was weak and rather feminine-looking. It's been
suggested that he sufferend from some kind of
endocrine disorder called Marphan's Syndrome or
Froelich's Syndrome, but it's unlikely that we will
ever know for sure. Blessings & peace,
~lesley

[Stephen Tyman]

Further to the question of the Ihkn-(Akhen)-aten connection with those of Ra
(not to be confused with Trismegistos): The decree of the elder pharoah
announcing the unity of the creation under the sun-god (then called Amon Ra) was
short-lived. This version of the Law of One did not outlive the short life of
the boy-king, known to history (on the basis of his tomb) to be of fabulous
wealth. Recent archaeological work suggests that the boy Tut had been murdered,
likely by the chief priest of the old religious order. A return to the old
polytheism, with its entrenched interests, promptly ensued. Though the intense
portion of armageddon had not yet been fully joined, as Ra says, we might here
see, in the hidden inspiration of this deed, that a strong blow was struck.

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[gypsy daniels]

Hi Stephen,

You too seem to know quite a lot about this! I'm actually not very
knowledgeable about Egypt. However, your first post does correspond with what I
understand.

Thanks!
G.D.

Stephen Tyman <sttyman@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=caz8Rwa5bRUw_p8nbl9CZAO8iqTNraD8f4d62t OA0y5ChK1pWwoBnug0KpDELa9k5r1D31U)> wrote:
Further to the question of the Ihkn-(Akhen)-aten connection with those of Ra
(not to be confused with Trismegistos): The decree of the elder pharoah
announcing the unity of the creation under the sun-god (then called Amon Ra) was
short-lived. This version of the Law of One did not outlive the short life of
the boy-king, known to history (on the basis of his tomb) to be of fabulous
wealth. Recent archaeological work suggests that the boy Tut had been murdered,
likely by the chief priest of the old religious order. A return to the old
polytheism, with its entrenched interests, promptly ensued. Though the intense
portion of armageddon had not yet been fully joined, as Ra says, we might here
see, in the hidden inspiration of this deed, that a strong blow was struck.